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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: ComanderSheppard on February 04, 2016, 12:11:59 pm
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It seems to me like Nintendo Consoles are the most collected consoles in the hobby. I understand that Sega and Atari has less of a fan base because they are out of the industry, but why are Sony and Microsoft less collected for hen say N64 and GameCube?
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There are more variations of N64 and Gamecube, also Nintendo has that nostalgia. Microsoft isn't near nostalgia yet. Sony is just now getting there, but PSX only really had 2 versions (not going to nit pick about variations of the OG model).
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
Yep, I remember I didnt want the gamecube (as a youngin) back in the day, because.... You couldnt play DVDs!, yes, that was a factor back in the day, and that is why i had a ps2 haha
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
Yep, I remember I didnt want the gamecube (as a youngin) back in the day, because.... You couldnt play DVDs!, yes, that was a factor back in the day, and that is why i had a ps2 haha
That was big back in the day. The Ps3's blue ray was useless though.
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I would say Nintendo is more collected because us 20-30year olds grew up with it and we are the ones with the newly acquired disposable income to spend on it. plus another thing to keep in mind is pretty much throughout the NES's lifetime Nintendo had something like 90% market share and much of that transferred over to the SNES. It wasn't until sony and Microsoft entered the race that much of that market share was lost, and also the fact that the generation that grew up on ps1 and the Xbox are not yet old enough to have the disposable income to really start collecting their nostalgia.
But without doubt in a few years we will see more and more collectors start buying up playstation and Xbox titles and systems increasing its value. so buy them now when they are cheap
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
Yep, I remember I didnt want the gamecube (as a youngin) back in the day, because.... You couldnt play DVDs!, yes, that was a factor back in the day, and that is why i had a ps2 haha
That was big back in the day. The Ps3's blue ray was useless though.
What was useless about the PS3's Blu-Ray drive? The system was cheaper than many stand-alone Blu-Ray players and the storage space allowed for games to fit on a single disc with uncompressed audio and video. For an example of a game that benefited from the storage capacity of Blu-Ray, compare Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 and 360. The 360 video was grainy as hell.
Edit: Ah...I see. Xbox fanboy. ::)
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For the NES and SNES specifically, it's simple: They were the biggest mainstream systems of their generations. So a whole lot of people have nostalgia for it, and they have the best game libraries of their respective generations.
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It seems to me like Nintendo Consoles are the most collected consoles in the hobby. I understand that Sega and Atari has less of a fan base because they are out of the industry, but why are Sony and Microsoft less collected for hen say N64 and GameCube?
The N64 and Gamecube were ignored by a huge majority of gamers when they were the current consoles on the market. Now people are looking back, seeing that there were some real gems on those consoles like the NES and SNES before them and are collecting for them. The prices are ballooning more for N64 and Gamecube I believe because with lower installed bases, these games had lower print runs than NES and SNES titles.
Nintendo consoles have huge nostalgia factor which contributes to their healthy aftermarket as well. Sega stuff is just out of favor and doesn't have the same draw (see the Genesis vs SNES thread). PlayStation has been picking up steam on the collector's market. Remember that the original PlayStation was released at the same time as the N64. Many PS1 RPG's and classics like Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon have risen steadily in price. Capcom titles are astronomically high priced. Atlus RPG's are commanding insane prices these days as are Working Designs games. PS2 games are beginning to creep up in price.
Xbox? While I think the original Xbox had a nice little library of fantastic exclusives, the system couldn't compete with the PS2. Most Xbox games are pretty cheap. Xbox 360 is just a failbox with fewer exclusives and forgettable games.
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
Yep, I remember I didnt want the gamecube (as a youngin) back in the day, because.... You couldnt play DVDs!, yes, that was a factor back in the day, and that is why i had a ps2 haha
That was big back in the day. The Ps3's blue ray was useless though.
I liked the blue ray, part of the reason I bought it haha.
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It seems to me like Nintendo Consoles are the most collected consoles in the hobby. I understand that Sega and Atari has less of a fan base because they are out of the industry, but why are Sony and Microsoft less collected for hen say N64 and GameCube?
The N64 and Gamecube were ignored by a huge majority of gamers when they were the current consoles on the market. Now people are looking back, seeing that there were some real gems on those consoles like the NES and SNES before them and are collecting for them. The prices are ballooning more for N64 and Gamecube I believe because with lower installed bases, these games had lower print runs than NES and SNES titles.
Nintendo consoles have huge nostalgia factor which contributes to their healthy aftermarket as well. Sega stuff is just out of favor and doesn't have the same draw (see the Genesis vs SNES thread). PlayStation has been picking up steam on the collector's market. Remember that the original PlayStation was released at the same time as the N64. Many PS1 RPG's and classics like Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon have risen steadily in price. Capcom titles are astronomically high priced. Atlus RPG's are commanding insane prices these days as are Working Designs games. PS2 games are beginning to creep up in price.
Xbox? While I think the original Xbox had a nice little library of fantastic exclusives, the system couldn't compete with the PS2. Most Xbox games are pretty cheap. Xbox 360 is just a failbox with fewer exclusives and forgettable games.
I actually bought up tons of PS2 and Xbox games for dirt cheap just because they might balloon down the line. I doubt it, but if they do, I might sell my xbox collection at least.
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Well also you got to realize the GameCube were not as popular as the PlayStation 2 or Xbox so it's not as widely available as those 2 and I feel people are just now seeing how amazing the GameCube's library actually is and are starting to get those games. As for N64 kind of the same reason + people who grew up with it now having disposable income. Basically the same reason NES & SNES prices shot up.
Yep, I remember I didnt want the gamecube (as a youngin) back in the day, because.... You couldnt play DVDs!, yes, that was a factor back in the day, and that is why i had a ps2 haha
That was big back in the day. The Ps3's blue ray was useless though.
What was useless about the PS3's Blu-Ray drive? The system was cheaper than many stand-alone Blu-Ray players and the storage space allowed for games to fit on a single disc with uncompressed audio and video. For an example of a game that benefited from the storage capacity of Blu-Ray, compare Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 and 360. The 360 video was grainy as hell.
Edit: Ah...I see. Xbox fanboy. ::)
Nothing wrong with the PS3's blue-ray. It's about Blue-Rays in general, they haven't been nearly as popular as DVD's.
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Could it be it possibly be that the games aged better?
Genesis had a huge install base. A very small number of its games are collectible.
Just a thought. ;)
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Too many folks typing "Blue-ray" uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.
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^ Is it really that surprising? It's the way it should be spelled, if you're using proper English, even if that's not the way it was branded.
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^ Is it really that surprising? It's the way it should be spelled, if you're using proper English, even if that's not the way it was branded.
A brand is a brand, has nothing to do with proper english.
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^ Is it really that surprising? It's the way it should be spelled, if you're using proper English, even if that's not the way it was branded.
A brand is a brand, has nothing to do with proper english.
Blue is spelled B-L-U-E. That is part that has to do with proper English.
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^ Is it really that surprising? It's the way it should be spelled, if you're using proper English, even if that's not the way it was branded.
A brand is a brand, has nothing to do with proper english.
Blue is spelled B-L-U-E. That is part that has to do with proper English.
I'm glad you can spell the word blue.
Do you spell Rice Krispies as Rice Crisps?
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I feel like your arguing with me just to argue. I mean this isn't a hard concept to follow at all. Blue is mispelled in the branding, therefore a lot of people mistakenly spell it Blue-Ray, because that's how the word would be spelled in proper English.
...why is this so confusing for you?
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I feel like your arguing with me just to argue. I mean this isn't a hard concept to follow at all. Blue is mispelled in the branding, therefore a lot of people mistakenly spell it Blue-Ray, because that's how the word would be spelled in proper English.
...why is this so confusing for you?
Cant we all just get along?
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I feel like your arguing with me just to argue. I mean this isn't a hard concept to follow at all. Blue is mispelled in the branding, therefore a lot of people mistakenly spell it Blue-Ray, because that's how the word would be spelled in proper English.
...why is this so confusing for you?
The company chose the name to be Blu-ray, it wasn't a typo, they didn't misspell anything.
Go put "blu" in any text to speech program, go ask any English major, they will tell you it is pronounced the same as "blue", just because you don't recognize something as a word doesn't mean it needs to be spelled differently.
I don't think you understand how "proper" English works. It's a language. You make words using language. Using specific letters in a specific order, you make a word, it is spelled and pronounced as such. I can for instance type flinglenard. I can say it means a person who ignorantly misspells words. It's not in a dictionary, but I made up the word, I chose its spelling, I infer its pronunciation, therefore it is spelled as such. Just as a company chose the word Blu-ray to name their product.
I mean, this argument is entirely stupid. You can't say a word is misspelled just because you want it spelled like a different word.
Quit being a flinglenard.
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No. Blu is not a word. It is a branded name. You will not find Blu in a dictionary. But that wasn't what I said anyway. I said it's understandable that people misspelled it because the proper English word isn't spelled that way.
It is is silly argument. It's silly that you had to point out everyone in the thread that misspelled it to begin with and be grammar police. I was just pointing out that it's completely understandable for them to misspell it. But apparently, it's not understandable to you for whatever reason.
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Let's direct the thread back on topic. This argument has unnecessarily escalated far enough.
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Did someone mention bluetooth?
Nintendo collectors be crazy. Not only do they collect the good games, but I think more collectors do complete collections for Nintendo consoles than anything else, and seeing that everything came in a cardboard box, the values of complete games are satanic and I think it has an impact on loose prices.
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I know Nintendo has much more nostalgia with me. If I had the money, I'd be focusing on N64 and SNES collections myself, though now it's mostly just new stuff and whatever I can get Zelda wise since I don't have the kind of money to afford proper collections. No matter how many sketchy sections Nintendo manages to go through, they still have some pretty good games. Already brought it up abit in the SNES vs Genesis thread, but I find that going back to Nintendo games turns out better generally than like Sega. Not for every system mind you, I know my favorite system, the N64, had a few rough games, but at the time, I know the PS1 did too. Luckily most of my favorites still hold up great.
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In collecting aspects.
Nintendo has cardboard boxes. Cardboard boxes are hard to find in nice shape and in most cases thrown away.
Sega cases are hard cases more chance of survival. Also I find the nintendo boxes to look better with their colours but the sega ones also do have some charm to them.
Allot of nostalgia for people is what Nintendo gives thanks to some notable charaters wich other consoles do not have especially mario and zelda and later pokemon. Sega does not have such notable charaters. (sonic?) Sure but the sonic games are mediocre most people focus on the mascots to base if the games are any good for a system
Mario and zelda games are excellent while sonic games are pretty mediocre ignoring all the other great games the sega console had to offer wich are forgotten and not popular thansk to this even though excellent games comparable to snes.
These days, Sega makes really bad games mediocre sonic games and other ****. The only notbale newer games wich are retro now are jet set radio future and panzer dragoon orta upcoming shenmue 3. Nintendo however still makes excellent games and even kids recognise this and start collecting for the older system thanks to the awesome charaters of nintendo mainly mario, pokemon and zelda.
The good sega games wich are forgotten are pretty expensive these days because gameplay wise excellent however forgotten thanks to the sonic games wich defined the system for most people talking about sega: mega turrican, castlevania bloodlines, musha etc etc.
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In collecting aspects.
Nintendo has cardboard boxes. Cardboard boxes are hard to find in nice shape and in most cases thrown away.
Sega cases are hard cases more chance of survival. Also I find the nintendo boxes to look better with their colours but the sega ones also do have some charm to them.
Allot of nostalgia for people is what Nintendo gives thanks to some notable charaters wich other consoles do not have especially mario and zelda and later pokemon. Sega does not have such notable charaters. (sonic?) Sure but the sonic games are mediocre most people focus on the mascots to base if the games are any good for a system
Mario and zelda games are excellent while sonic games are pretty mediocre ignoring all the other great games the sega console had to offer wich are forgotten and not popular thansk to this even though excellent games comparable to snes.
These days, Sega makes really bad games mediocre sonic games and other ****. The only notbale newer games wich are retro now are jet set radio future and panzer dragoon orta upcoming shenmue 3. Nintendo however still makes excellent games and even kids recognise this and start collecting for the older system thanks to the awesome charaters of nintendo mainly mario, pokemon and zelda.
The good sega games wich are forgotten are pretty expensive these days because gameplay wise excellent however forgotten thanks to the sonic games wich defined the system for most people talking about sega: mega turrican, castlevania bloodlines, musha etc etc.
Early Sega games that came in the plastic cases were very nice. It's always easier to find complete Genesis games because it wasn't as easy for kids to utterly destroy those hard cases as it was to smash a cardboard SNES box. Later Genesis games switched to those crappy cardboard boxes that I think were worse than SNES boxes. They had those little tabs that held the cartridge in it's spot and those got bent or ripped pretty easily.
I'm not agreeing with you on Sonic games being mediocre. Sega put a lot of faith in those titles and Yuji Naka and crew made some fun, fast paced platformers there. The series was highly regarded and in fact, was a prime leader in Sega competing with the SNES. Of course taste in games is subjective, but they were highly rated and a major factor in the success of the Genesis/MegaDrive.
Modern-day Sega started off strong when they went 3rd party. Panzer Dragoon Orta, ToeJam & Earl III, Crazy Taxi 3, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online...these were all good, strong games. Unfortunately, last generation saw them peter out. I'm not a huge fan of the Yakuza games, but they are still fairly highly regarded.
I can't really speak for Mega Turican or Musha, but the reason Castlevania Bloodlines is so expensive is because every Castlevania game pre-PS2 era is expensive as hell.
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Let's direct the thread back on topic. This argument is unnecessary.
Look! I helped.
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In collecting aspects.
Nintendo has cardboard boxes. Cardboard boxes are hard to find in nice shape and in most cases thrown away.
Sega cases are hard cases more chance of survival. Also I find the nintendo boxes to look better with their colours but the sega ones also do have some charm to them.
Allot of nostalgia for people is what Nintendo gives thanks to some notable charaters wich other consoles do not have especially mario and zelda and later pokemon. Sega does not have such notable charaters. (sonic?) Sure but the sonic games are mediocre most people focus on the mascots to base if the games are any good for a system
Mario and zelda games are excellent while sonic games are pretty mediocre ignoring all the other great games the sega console had to offer wich are forgotten and not popular thansk to this even though excellent games comparable to snes.
These days, Sega makes really bad games mediocre sonic games and other ****. The only notbale newer games wich are retro now are jet set radio future and panzer dragoon orta upcoming shenmue 3. Nintendo however still makes excellent games and even kids recognise this and start collecting for the older system thanks to the awesome charaters of nintendo mainly mario, pokemon and zelda.
The good sega games wich are forgotten are pretty expensive these days because gameplay wise excellent however forgotten thanks to the sonic games wich defined the system for most people talking about sega: mega turrican, castlevania bloodlines, musha etc etc.
Early Sega games that came in the plastic cases were very nice. It's always easier to find complete Genesis games because it wasn't as easy for kids to utterly destroy those hard cases as it was to smash a cardboard SNES box. Later Genesis games switched to those crappy cardboard boxes that I think were worse than SNES boxes. They had those little tabs that held the cartridge in it's spot and those got bent or ripped pretty easily.
I'm not agreeing with you on Sonic games being mediocre. Sega put a lot of faith in those titles and Yuji Naka and crew made some fun, fast paced platformers there. The series was highly regarded and in fact, was a prime leader in Sega competing with the SNES. Of course taste in games is subjective, but they were highly rated and a major factor in the success of the Genesis/MegaDrive.
Modern-day Sega started off strong when they went 3rd party. Panzer Dragoon Orta, ToeJam & Earl III, Crazy Taxi 3, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online...these were all good, strong games. Unfortunately, last generation saw them peter out. I'm not a huge fan of the Yakuza games, but they are still fairly highly regarded.
I can't really speak for Mega Turican or Musha, but the reason Castlevania Bloodlines is so expensive is because every Castlevania game pre-PS2 era is expensive as hell.
Mind you that castlevania Blood lines regardless of it being cib or as a lose cart has more value than Super castlevania IV lose or cib. Both were not to rare of a games and are equally easy to come by.
castlevania X on the other hand is a pretty rare game.
As for the sonic games it might have had succes but sonic games are not the kinda games that I play for fun except for the casino night lvl wich is nice.
I don't like sonic games to much and I find them mediocre my personal opinion. Mario games are way more fun to play and cannot be compared to sonic games. Good for you that you like sonic games so much.
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Mind you that castlevania Blood lines regardless of it being cib or as a lose cart has more value than Super castlevania IV lose or cib. Both were not to rare of a games and are equally easy to come by.
castlevania X on the other hand is a pretty rare game.
As for the sonic games it might have had succes but sonic games are not the kinda games that I play for fun except for the casino night lvl wich is nice.
I don't like sonic games to much and I find them mediocre my personal opinion. Mario games are way more fun to play and cannot be compared to sonic games. Good for you that you like sonic games so much.
I thought you weren't going to reply to me anymore? This reply is newer than the one where you said that. You aren't stalking me, are you?
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Let's direct the thread back on topic. This argument is unnecessary.
Look! I helped.
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