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VGCollect Site Stuff => Site Feedback => Topic started by: entity on February 22, 2016, 11:04:30 am
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Afro Samurai, God of War, DMC, Bayonetta...
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Action genre covers that I'm pretty sure.
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Like it covers every Beat 'em Up as well. And so on.
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Action is a very generic category that is used to cover games that can't be covered otherwise like simple button mashers or games that test your reflexes, but nothing else, e.g. very early games or Infinite Runners (even if those are, um, Infinite Runners).
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Action is a very generic category that is used to cover games that can't be covered otherwise like simple button mashers or games that test your reflexes, but nothing else, e.g. very early games or Infinite Runners (even if those are, um, Infinite Runners).
Yeah, unfortunately many of our categories are fairly broad. It's something that may be reworked in the future. We had previously discussed various ways to handle it (having multiple category fields and/or lots of subgenres), but it got very complicated very quickly. It was decided to go with the more broad categories for the time being with maybe a reworking later down the line.
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Yeah, I thought so. But as there is no search function for the forum (or is it?) I couldn't find anything about it. Crtl+F in the Suggestions sub (keyword "genre") just yielded something about Shmup subgenres. Thanks.
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I get it, I'm blind. It's an own button next to 'Forum Home'. I was rather looking for a search bar inside the forum itself. My bad.
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I get it, I'm blind. It's an own button next to 'Forum Home'. I was rather looking for a search bar inside the forum itself. My bad.
No worries! Yeah, might take a little time to get used to where everything is - I still get turned around sometimes, haha.
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This is where we currently stand with respect to our available genre categories:
Action >> General
Action >> Arcade
Action >> Beat-’Em-Up
Action >> Fighting
Action >> Platformer
Action >> Rhythm
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person
Action >> Shooter >> Light Gun
Action >> Shooter >> Shoot-’Em-Up
Action Adventure >> Survival Horror (NOTE: This should be renamed as Survival because not all Survival games are horror themed. This was a serious error.)
Adventure >> General
Classic - don’t know what this is, but it’s not a generally accepted genre
Miscellaneous (Other)
Miscellaneous >> Edutainment
Miscellaneous >> Exercise - should be renamed Exercise / Fitness
Miscellaneous >> Party - should be renamed Party / Mini-games
Puzzle >> General
Racing >> General
Role-Playing >> General
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer
Simulation >> Flight
Simulation >> General
Sports >> General
Strategy >> General
As you can see, most are very broad definitions while others pertain to just a small percentage of games. There are some important omissions, but the following is the most egregious and comprises a huge number of games:
Action Adventure: Games with elements of both action (reflex, timing, button-mashing) and adventure (puzzle-solving, inventory management) games - a hybrid of the Action and Adventure categories.
Also, I’m going to keep hammering on the following definitions until everyone gets it:
Adventure: Games that require primarily logic and problem-solving to complete in the context of a narrative, with little (if any) action game mechanics.
Examples: Myst, Proteus, Gone Home, Heavy Rain , Shadowgate, The Secret of Monkey Island, Zork, Enchanter
Beat-'Em-Up: An action game where the player must fight a large number of enemies in unarmed combat or with melee weapons.
Examples: Double Dragon, Final Fight, Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Viewtiful Joe, Devil My Cry
Shoot-'Em-Up: Shooting action games in a 2D overhead, side, or top-down perspective against a large number of enemies while dodging their fire.
Examples: Gradius, R-Type, Deathsmiles, Smash TV, Geometry Wars, Super Stardust Delta, Space Invaders, Galaga, Ikaruga
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Shoot-'Em-Up: Shooting action games in a 2D overhead, side, or top-down perspective against a large number of enemies while dodging their fire.
Examples: Gradius, R-Type, Deathsmiles, Smash TV, Geometry Wars, Super Stardust Delta, Space Invaders, Galaga, Ikaruga
Do people have a different idea of what shmups are? I generally think of them as how you described it.
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Dont get me involved in this. I would do it like this :
RPGs
Non RPGs
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It may be better to have the ability to add "Tags" to an item regarding the genre. That way you could put multiple things on it.
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It may be better to have the ability to add "Tags" to an item regarding the genre. That way you could put multiple things on it.
Now that sounds like a great idea.
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Action Adventure: Games with elements of both action (reflex, timing, button-mashing) and adventure (puzzle-solving, inventory management) games - a hybrid of the Action and Adventure categories.
Also, I’m going to keep hammering on the following definitions until everyone gets it:
Adventure: Games that require primarily logic and problem-solving to complete in the context of a narrative, with little (if any) action game mechanics.
Examples: Myst, Proteus, Gone Home, Heavy Rain , Shadowgate, The Secret of Monkey Island, Zork, Enchanter
Something like "Action Adventure" is definitely missing. And I'm with you regarding the "Adventure" genre. "Action" alone is just so generic that atm I would have categorized a game like Uncharted into "Adventure" rather than "Action".
And you are basically right about "Survival" games, it's just a rather niche category per se and there are even fewer games that are "Survival", but not "Survival Horror", I'd say. Both (being niche and the "Survival":"Survival Horror" ratio) could have changed by now, though, considering the flood of indie games.
- I really like the idea of tags. This would be a huge improvement.
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Shoot-'Em-Up: Shooting action games in a 2D overhead, side, or top-down perspective against a large number of enemies while dodging their fire.
Examples: Gradius, R-Type, Deathsmiles, Smash TV, Geometry Wars, Super Stardust Delta, Space Invaders, Galaga, Ikaruga
Do people have a different idea of what shmups are? I generally think of them as how you described it.
While editing I have run across some games incorrectly categorized as Shoot-’Em-Up. Usually they are first- or third-person shooters. In general, it’s been a game that has a weapon capable of rapid fire. On a couple of occasions I ran across Action RPG’s categorized as such.
As for Beat’Em-Up, I’ve seen one-on-one unarmed combat games and even boxing games with this genre attached to them. Action RPG’s too!
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Shoot-'Em-Up: Shooting action games in a 2D overhead, side, or top-down perspective against a large number of enemies while dodging their fire.
Examples: Gradius, R-Type, Deathsmiles, Smash TV, Geometry Wars, Super Stardust Delta, Space Invaders, Galaga, Ikaruga
Do people have a different idea of what shmups are? I generally think of them as how you described it.
While editing I have run across some games incorrectly categorized as Shoot-’Em-Up. Usually they are first- or third-person shooters. In general, it’s been a game that has a weapon capable of rapid fire. On a couple of occasions I ran across Action RPG’s categorized as such.
As for Beat’Em-Up, I’ve seen one-on-one unarmed combat games and even boxing games with this genre attached to them. Action RPG’s too!
Ah, I gotcha! I'll have to keep an eye out for that when I'm checking over records/edits :)
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Dont get me involved in this. I would do it like this :
RPGs
Non RPGs
Clean & Simple
I like it.