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Title: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: killerchameleon on March 01, 2012, 07:31:23 pm
Wow I didn’t know this existed, I’m in love with the game all over again.

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Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jobocan on March 01, 2012, 07:40:37 pm
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Cool graphic upgrade and new dungeon layouts, great stuff. Too bad it's nearly impossible to play in its original format nowadays, emulation is really the only way.

Here's a review for anyone interested (and also a history about the Satellaview): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDVxSm-_iM4
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: darko on March 01, 2012, 07:46:07 pm
I'm pretty sure you can get a repro of it. I'm almost positive I've seen it. I'd link it but gamereproductions is down at the moment so the guy running it can catch up on orders. SUCKS because I was going to make an order tonight :(
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 01, 2012, 09:32:26 pm
Speaking of reproduction games. The guy that sells Battle Kid for NES has a couple reproduction carts I need to get soon. Kid Dracula for Famicom, translated to English and VS. Castlevania. Too sweet.

I was looking at the place you were talking about darko too. They have some really sweet stuff on there too.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jcalder8 on March 01, 2012, 10:56:55 pm
I'm not the biggest Zelda fan but these look fantastic. I am going to have to try and track down the repos of these.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jobocan on March 02, 2012, 05:03:35 am
Speaking of reproduction games. The guy that sells Battle Kid for NES has a couple reproduction carts I need to get soon. Kid Dracula for Famicom, translated to English and VS. Castlevania. Too sweet.


In regards to the Famicom Kid Dracula, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to go for the actual Famicom cart... it's generally cheaper, and there's really a whole lot of text (other than the quiz boss, which seems like it may actually ask questions in the same order every time).
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 02, 2012, 05:27:30 am
It would, if I had a famicom or a converter... but buying either and the game would actually be more than the repro I believe.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jobocan on March 02, 2012, 06:26:33 am
It would, if I had a famicom or a converter... but buying either and the game would actually be more than the repro I believe.


But then that would give you the chance to get more Famicom games! That's how I'd see it anyways, there's a lot of really good Famicom exclusives. (or you could make your own famicom converter with a gyromite cart which should be easy to find for cheap)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 02, 2012, 06:49:21 am
True enough.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: darko on March 02, 2012, 04:18:18 pm
For what it's worth I've ordered several things from gamereproductions.com and nesreproductions.com. I've never had an issue with either.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 03, 2012, 01:52:17 pm
Interesting. I found a copy of Gyromite at the store today for a Buck. Picked it up and cracked it open when I got home and there is only a circuit board in there. No adapter.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: foxhack on March 03, 2012, 02:00:43 pm
Speaking of reproduction games. The guy that sells Battle Kid for NES has a couple reproduction carts I need to get soon. Kid Dracula for Famicom, translated to English and VS. Castlevania. Too sweet.

I was looking at the place you were talking about darko too. They have some really sweet stuff on there too.

Oh yeah, I just looooooooooooooove it when people like him make money off other people's work. Especially mine.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 03, 2012, 02:08:52 pm
@foxhack oh? Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: foxhack on March 03, 2012, 03:09:05 pm
Who do you think DID that Kid Dracula translation?

http://www.foxhack.net/trans/im-kid-dracula/
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jcalder8 on March 03, 2012, 03:25:53 pm
@foxhack That sucks. I hadn't thought that they would take someone else's work to do it.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 03, 2012, 04:17:57 pm
Oh well in that case, I have to apologize for my ignorance. In all honesty I've always wondered about the legality of rom hacks and reproduction carts. Personally I'd prefer to have the real thing anyway, which is why I bought that Gyromite cart today.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: foxhack on March 03, 2012, 04:45:57 pm
My suggestion is, don't bother with repros of romhacks. Just get a flash cart. Sure, it's more expensive, but it's worth it in the long run since you can play more games that way - legal or otherwise.  Plus flash carts have the advantage that they don't require a game to be sacrificed.

And no need to apologize. Repros are good, but are also bad when it comes to cases like mine. A lot of romhackers don't like people making money off their work.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: darko on March 05, 2012, 07:42:13 am
The only reason I choose repros over flash carts is because I like having a physical, dedicated cart to a game. I only buy repros for games that I really like. Most of the games I want to play can't be played on the current flash cart options for the SNES. There's a new flash cart coming out this year (supposedly) that can play every SNES game.  It's going to be pricey from what I've heard ($250).

@foxhack What other translation projects have you worked on?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: foxhack on March 05, 2012, 04:43:22 pm
Most are listed here: http://www.foxhack.net/trans/

But I've helped out with several projects over the years. I'm mostly retired now, but I still have one left to finish...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 05, 2012, 05:07:48 pm
Eventually I'll have to give that translation of Castlevania III a whirl.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jcalder8 on March 17, 2012, 01:56:31 pm
 What are the differences in the Famicom version of Castlevania III?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: scott on March 17, 2012, 04:09:37 pm
From Wikipedia
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Besides just the different name in Japan, Akumajō Densetsu, the Japanese version has several other differences. Most notably, the original Japanese version contained a specialized "VRC6" microprocessor chip. The game's audio programmer, Hidenori Maezawa, assisted in the chip's creation. This chip added two extra pulse-wave channels and a saw-wave channel to the system's initial set of five channels. The majority of the music combines the channels to imitate the sound of a synthesized string section. The VRC6 chip also provided smoother animation for sprites. Western versions of the NES didn't have the ability to support external sound chips, so the North American release replaced the VRC6 with Nintendo's Memory Management Controller (MMC) chip, specifically the MMC5 model. The MMC5 chip lacked the extra audio channels, and the game's music had to be downgraded to comply with the NES's standard five channels. Some of the percussion instruments were also slightly changed, even though the low-quality PCM channel was no less capable without the VRC6 mapper.[4]

Other changes differed in the gameplay or graphics. Instead of using a stabbing dagger, Grant throws daggers as his main attack. Some enemies do less damage in the Japanese version, and had their sprites changed for the Western releases. Some instances of nudity on the enemies were also censored. The Japanese version had slightly different backgrounds in many stages, and had special effects not seen in the North American and European releases, also due to the lack of the VRC6 chip.

The North American and PAL versions have several hidden features that can be accessed by entering a certain name for the player, which include starting the game with 10 lives (by entering the name, "HELP ME"), the option to start the game with any of the three spirit partners, and to access the second, more difficult quest. These features are not present in the Japanese version.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever played the BSX version of Legend of Zelda
Post by: jcalder8 on March 17, 2012, 09:22:32 pm
Thanks for the info Scott, doesn't sound like the changes are that significant though.