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Title: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: lordscott on September 22, 2016, 10:00:41 am
In your opinions is it cheating if i keep using any of my favorite moves,any of my favorite combos &/or any of my favorite finishers in any fighting games in general with any of my favorite characters & if i choose to?

Before you jump my throat don't because I'm not seeking a approval I'm only asking your opinions because i admit that I'm just curios because sometimes i keep using any of my favorite moves,any of my favorite combos &/or any of my favorite finishers in any fighting games in general with any of my favorite characters or you may say it's more like i put pressure on my opponent by keep using any of my favorite moves,any of my favorite combos &/or any of my favorite finishers and not let up.

& if i perfect any of my favorite moves,any of my favorite combos &/or any of my favorite finishers in any fighting games in general with any of my favorite characters then i keep being pretty quick or I'm doing decent and not let up or you may say it's more like I've put pressure on them because sooner or later he'll or she'll eventually slip up & make a mistake then bam that's where i got them and i keep attacking and not let up+if i need to block i will block don't worry.

Those of you play fighting games,sometimes play fighting games or have it in your collection then you'll understand what do i mean thanks for sharing your opinions and remember like i said I'm only asking your opinions and I'm not seeking approvals :).
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: redblaze57 on September 22, 2016, 10:15:05 am
All I'm going to say is that if you keep spacing the same thing over and over again they're going to figure out how to block and Dodge it then counterattack you gotta have some diversity in the game and be able to mix up the combos
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: tripredacus on September 22, 2016, 10:16:03 am
In single player, it is whatever works. If you are just using the same move over and over vs a real person, then it still is not cheating. It is another term, I can't think of it right now. Cheap maybe.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: 98dgreen on September 22, 2016, 10:37:30 am
In single player, it is whatever works. If you are just using the same move over and over vs a real person, then it still is not cheating. It is another term, I can't think of it right now. Cheap maybe.
Spaming
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: tripredacus on September 22, 2016, 10:39:29 am
In single player, it is whatever works. If you are just using the same move over and over vs a real person, then it still is not cheating. It is another term, I can't think of it right now. Cheap maybe.
Spaming

Not the action itself, but impression of the person doing the action. That is what I mean.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: 98dgreen on September 22, 2016, 10:41:30 am
Yeah if you do this I am surprised you can still get people to continue to play you.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: lordscott on September 22, 2016, 10:53:54 am
Yeah if you do this I am surprised you can still get people to continue to play you.

Don't worry i will mix it up since sometimes i do and sometimes i don't if that makes sense and I'm just wondering if it is and i said if because i don't know yet am i going to keep using same moves i only said if and i included if i choose to like i said don't worry i will mix it up :).
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: kashell on September 22, 2016, 11:03:20 am
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sworddude on September 22, 2016, 11:10:17 am
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.

Depends, in certain fighting games there are some really Op charaters with certain moves.

No matter how good you are you cannot do anything about it.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: kashell on September 22, 2016, 11:50:06 am
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.

Depends, in certain fighting games there are some really Op charaters with certain moves.

No matter how good you are you cannot do anything about it.

Do you have an example? Often times, the OP'd characters are banned.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: 98dgreen on September 22, 2016, 12:40:15 pm
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.

Depends, in certain fighting games there are some really Op charaters with certain moves.

No matter how good you are you cannot do anything about it.

Do you have an example? Often times, the OP'd characters are banned.
Banned from competitions not normal play.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: Flashback2012 on September 22, 2016, 12:40:22 pm
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.

Depends, in certain fighting games there are some really Op charaters with certain moves.

No matter how good you are you cannot do anything about it.

Do you have an example? Often times, the OP'd characters are banned.

Eddy Freakin' Gordo and Voldo immediately spring to mind.  :P
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: kashell on September 22, 2016, 12:58:52 pm
Ah, I thought the OP was talking about competitive play. Not just normal play.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sworddude on September 22, 2016, 01:40:11 pm
If you use the same move, it becomes predictable and your opponent will learn how to fight back.

Depends, in certain fighting games there are some really Op charaters with certain moves.

No matter how good you are you cannot do anything about it.

Do you have an example? Often times, the OP'd characters are banned.

That´s true in tournaments but if your playing with friends all characters are allowed.

Back on topic

It really doesn´t matter how you play fighting games since in the end it is to win and make your opponent salty.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: ignition365 on September 22, 2016, 01:44:22 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sworddude on September 22, 2016, 01:54:33 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: ignition365 on September 22, 2016, 01:55:28 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
I like style.  Style is good.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: kashell on September 22, 2016, 02:23:30 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
I like style.  Style is good.

Who is Style?
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: ignition365 on September 22, 2016, 02:34:06 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
I like style.  Style is good.

Who is Style?
*shrug*

I was just stating that I like beating people in style.  Like using Peach in Smash Bros. and using her backhand attack to bitch slap folks.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sworddude on September 22, 2016, 03:16:13 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
I like style.  Style is good.

Who is Style?
*shrug*

I was just stating that I like beating people in style.  Like using Peach in Smash Bros. and using her backhand attack to bitch slap folks.

I'd rather tipper or dunk players, especially those who bitch clap folks for no good reason just because they are standing there looking to stylish  :o

Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: ignition365 on September 22, 2016, 04:13:24 pm
I don't play to make my opponent salty.  I play to have fun.

People getting all salty and butthurt ruins the fun.

To much sure but otherwise you try to beat them in style.
I like style.  Style is good.

Who is Style?
*shrug*

I was just stating that I like beating people in style.  Like using Peach in Smash Bros. and using her backhand attack to bitch slap folks.

I'd rather tipper or dunk players, especially those who bitch clap folks for no good reason just because they are standing there looking to stylish  :o
What do you mean no good reason?  It's hilarious.

Also, laying down and posing as King Dedede.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: emporerdragon on September 22, 2016, 06:21:42 pm
If a tactic is consistently working, why would I change it?

I'd say game designer/competitive fighting game player David Sirlin best describes it in his book Playing to Win:

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: stealthrush on September 22, 2016, 09:41:33 pm
Competitive fighting game enthusiast here.

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In your opinions is it cheating if i keep using any of my favorite moves,any of my favorite combos &/or any of my favorite finishers in any fighting games in general with any of my favorite characters & if i choose to?

Not at all. If it works for you, its up to your opponent to counter your limited options. Playing against CPU, Online, or IRL with actual other people all varies in results.
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sloan11 on September 22, 2016, 09:56:28 pm
in my experience, using the same move from the same character is a really easy way to do one of two things (depending on what time of player you are playing against):

1. a player who is not very good - if they can't figure out the proper counter move, they get mad and either quit or stay bitter for the rest of the night

2. a player who is really good - they just beat you into the ground


so is it cheating? no.. but someone will end up annoyed lol
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: sworddude on September 23, 2016, 08:24:14 am
If a tactic is consistently working, why would I change it?

I'd say game designer/competitive fighting game player David Sirlin best describes it in his book Playing to Win:

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub

Interesting topic with a very simplistic style this garbage is pure gold.

On a side note I remember seeing this exact video back in the day from sirlin.

The days that items were legal in tournament matches. Bombs, pokeballs, assist trophies and hammer were not legal though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLZ4pPynzg
Title: Re: Question about fighting games in general
Post by: burningdoom on September 23, 2016, 12:53:43 pm
If someone keeps spamming the same move over and over again, and you can't counter it after it being used that much; you deserve to lose.