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Title: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: burningdoom on January 24, 2017, 02:34:25 pm
Sure seems that way with Nintendo just announcing a Pikachu edition of the handheld coming out next month:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/24/14370702/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-pikachu-yellow (http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/24/14370702/new-nintendo-3ds-xl-pikachu-yellow)
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on January 24, 2017, 02:38:09 pm
I mean... Nintendo did just announce Fire Emblem Echoes for 3DS and Fire Emblem Warriors for N3DS... so yeah.. it's still being supported.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2017, 02:52:10 pm
Yup it is, though I figure it's got about a year left of serious support.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: burningdoom on January 24, 2017, 02:59:03 pm
They dropped the Wii U like a bad girlfriend. So it's nice to see that the 3DS still has some life in it.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2017, 03:01:40 pm
They dropped the Wii U like a bad girlfriend. So it's nice to see that the 3DS still has some life in it.

Well they had to drop the Wii U, dead weight.  3DS still does sales, though I still figure a year before they start winding down so that they can push the Switch as the sole focus and replacement.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: Limeface on January 24, 2017, 03:32:59 pm
With Nintendo not putting a mainline Fire Emblem game on Switch until 2018, I think it's safe to assume the 3DS will be supported until then. Once Pokemon jumps to Switch, then the 3DS will dwindle. I predict the next Pokemon games will probably come out on 3DS late this year, and then holiday 2018 will be the full transition to Switch.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: fauxshot on January 24, 2017, 10:53:21 pm
Yep, Nintendo isn't dropping the 3DS. As mentioned above, plenty of games are still being released for it, at least for the next few years, it seems. May be the only thing to keep them afloat while the Switch builds up it's library haha.

Though it does bring up the question of whether or not Sony is going to try putting another handheld out there, eventually. Although I like my 3DS for some things, I preferred the price and variety of games that the PSP/Vita offered.

Guess I may have to eventually upgrade to a *new* 3DS though, assuming more games will demand the hardware to perform better over the next couple of years.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: lordsofskulls on April 09, 2017, 05:18:47 pm
honestly... i want true new handheld.

Either Nintendo or Sony One....
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 09, 2017, 09:20:33 pm
honestly... i want true new handheld.

Either Nintendo or Sony One....

In what way? The Switch is the evolution of the handheld, doing more than even what the Vita did.  This is the future for Nintendo and Sony is probably done with handhelds since the Vita failed.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: turf on April 10, 2017, 08:49:46 am
honestly... i want true new handheld.

Either Nintendo or Sony One....

The Switch is THE Handheld.  IMO, it's the best handheld ever made.  It was just marketed wrong as a console.  It's a handheld that will connect to your TV.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: zephyria on April 11, 2017, 07:59:01 am
The Switch is THE Handheld.  IMO, it's the best handheld ever made.  It was just marketed wrong as a console.  It's a handheld that will connect to your TV.

Quite an expensive handheld, at that.  I think a big part of the success and draw of the original Game Boy all the way though the 3DS was that they were that much more affordable for people of all ages.  While the Switch isn't at a bad price, it may not reach the level of success that the DS family has had (at least for a while), especially since it lacks backwards compatibility.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on April 11, 2017, 08:48:27 am
The Switch is THE Handheld.  IMO, it's the best handheld ever made.  It was just marketed wrong as a console.  It's a handheld that will connect to your TV.

Quite an expensive handheld, at that.  I think a big part of the success and draw of the original Game Boy all the way though the 3DS was that they were that much more affordable for people of all ages.  While the Switch isn't at a bad price, it may not reach the level of success that the DS family has had (at least for a while), especially since it lacks backwards compatibility.
Switch is $299, 3DS at launch was $249 I think.  Not too far off.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: zephyria on April 11, 2017, 08:56:06 am
Switch is $299, 3DS at launch was $249 I think.  Not too far off.

Not too far, but 3DS had a slow start for the first year or so if I remember correctly, followed by a price drop that helped it along.  I think Switch will do well as a handheld, but more games plus a bit of a price drop would help it along.

Another thing to keep in mind is not just the price of the console, but the prices of the games as well, which is triple that of 3DS games.  I really hope that publishers don't stick with the full $60 price point for simpler handheld titles.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on April 11, 2017, 09:19:02 am
which is triple that of 3DS games.
Wat?

3DS games are $40.  $20 is not a price that I've seen release day for 3DS games... ever.  As for the Switch titles, I've seen games as cheap as $20 and as much as $60 on release day.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: zephyria on April 11, 2017, 09:30:49 am
Wat?

3DS games are $40.  $20 is not a price that I've seen release day for 3DS games... ever.  As for the Switch titles, I've seen games as cheap as $20 and as much as $60 on release day.

Games are regularly $20 on Amazon after not a lot of time.  Maybe not release day, sure, and maybe not for the big name Mario or Pokemon games, but a substantial number of them do go down to around $20 given a bit of time, many to $30.  When you're a kid from a not rich family, you generally have to wait on mommy or daddy to agree to buy games for you, and this is a lot of the market for Nintendo.  Release day is simply not a factor for many people.

As for Switch, there are like 5 games for it (sarcasm, but really there aren't many).  I hope that this does become a trend though and that they continue to release games that are affordable and worthwhile stuff that people actually want.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: 98dgreen on April 11, 2017, 09:58:15 am
Wait there is more than just Zelda on the Switch?
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on April 11, 2017, 09:58:31 am
Games are regularly $20 on Amazon after not a lot of time.  Maybe not release day, sure, and maybe not for the big name Mario or Pokemon games, but a substantial number of them do go down to around $20 given a bit of time, many to $30.  When you're a kid from a not rich family, you generally have to wait on mommy or daddy to agree to buy games for you, and this is a lot of the market for Nintendo.  Release day is simply not a factor for many people.
Most games see the majority of their sales around release date.

A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

From my recollection, the only games that hit $20 are the greatest hits, shit titles, and titles that have been out for quite a while (not a bit).

As for the broad statement saying that the majority of consumers in the 3DS market is kids from poor families.  That's probably not their biggest demographic.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: desocietas on April 11, 2017, 11:23:48 am
Games are regularly $20 on Amazon after not a lot of time.  Maybe not release day, sure, and maybe not for the big name Mario or Pokemon games, but a substantial number of them do go down to around $20 given a bit of time, many to $30.  When you're a kid from a not rich family, you generally have to wait on mommy or daddy to agree to buy games for you, and this is a lot of the market for Nintendo.  Release day is simply not a factor for many people.
Most games see the majority of their sales around release date.

A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

From my recollection, the only games that hit $20 are the greatest hits, shit titles, and titles that have been out for quite a while (not a bit).

As for the broad statement saying that the majority of consumers in the 3DS market is kids from poor families.  That's probably not their biggest demographic.

I was honestly surprised at the range of prices for launch titles for the Switch. Just assumed everything would be $60 or something.

Considering that the Switch allows for co-op play without always requiring another pair of joy-cons and the fact that it can be played on a television as well as on the go helps with the price a lot. In comparison, playing co-op with a friend on the 3DS would require another 3DS handheld. Playing on a monitor with a 3DS requires a $200-$250 capture card. So really $300 isn't too bad for a freshly launched console imo.

The thing that I noticed immediately when they announced the Switch was that it's really not being marketed at younger kids and families in the same way that the other Nintendo consoles did. The other consoles were so much about families and living rooms while the Switch really seems to be aimed at the 20-something generation who are actively outside the house. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case because there just doesn't seem to be a lot a home-time in Japan.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on April 11, 2017, 11:39:20 am
I was honestly surprised at the range of prices for launch titles for the Switch. Just assumed everything would be $60 or something.

Considering that the Switch allows for co-op play without always requiring another pair of joy-cons and the fact that it can be played on a television as well as on the go helps with the price a lot. In comparison, playing co-op with a friend on the 3DS would require another 3DS handheld. Playing on a monitor with a 3DS requires a $200-$250 capture card. So really $300 isn't too bad for a freshly launched console imo.

The thing that I noticed immediately when they announced the Switch was that it's really not being marketed at younger kids and families in the same way that the other Nintendo consoles did. The other consoles were so much about families and living rooms while the Switch really seems to be aimed at the 20-something generation who are actively outside the house. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case because there just doesn't seem to be a lot a home-time in Japan.
Many agreements, all around.  The Switch just needs more titles.

Has-been heroes being $20 at physical, seems like a sign to me that it can work out for indie titles to get physical releases on Switch, but that could be Gamestop taking a hit hoping that by producing inventory it can keep themselves relevant in a time with a large digital presence.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: 98dgreen on April 11, 2017, 11:40:16 am
Games are regularly $20 on Amazon after not a lot of time.  Maybe not release day, sure, and maybe not for the big name Mario or Pokemon games, but a substantial number of them do go down to around $20 given a bit of time, many to $30.  When you're a kid from a not rich family, you generally have to wait on mommy or daddy to agree to buy games for you, and this is a lot of the market for Nintendo.  Release day is simply not a factor for many people.
Most games see the majority of their sales around release date.

A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

From my recollection, the only games that hit $20 are the greatest hits, shit titles, and titles that have been out for quite a while (not a bit).

As for the broad statement saying that the majority of consumers in the 3DS market is kids from poor families.  That's probably not their biggest demographic.

I was honestly surprised at the range of prices for launch titles for the Switch. Just assumed everything would be $60 or something.

Considering that the Switch allows for co-op play without always requiring another pair of joy-cons and the fact that it can be played on a television as well as on the go helps with the price a lot. In comparison, playing co-op with a friend on the 3DS would require another 3DS handheld. Playing on a monitor with a 3DS requires a $200-$250 capture card. So really $300 isn't too bad for a freshly launched console imo.

The thing that I noticed immediately when they announced the Switch was that it's really not being marketed at younger kids and families in the same way that the other Nintendo consoles did. The other consoles were so much about families and living rooms while the Switch really seems to be aimed at the 20-something generation who are actively outside the house. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case because there just doesn't seem to be a lot a home-time in Japan.
There are not a lot of children in Japan anyway.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: kashell on April 11, 2017, 12:48:53 pm
A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

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Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: desocietas on April 11, 2017, 12:50:39 pm
A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

Enjoy new games for a reduced price by signing up with our memberships! XD

Haha, I don't even think of it that way because I end up saving more money in the end (also, I'm on a friend's Amazon Prime account, so I don't pay for it at all >.> )...
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: kashell on April 11, 2017, 12:52:16 pm
A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

Enjoy new games for a reduced price by signing up with our memberships! XD

Haha, I don't even think of it that way because I end up saving more money in the end (also, I'm on a friend's Amazon Prime account, so I don't pay for it at all >.> )...

Nice! Amazon Prime doesn't seem like a bad gig due to the free-shipping. That would pay for itself.
Title: Re: New 3DS Still Being Supported?
Post by: ignition365 on April 11, 2017, 01:11:01 pm
A $40 game dropping down to $30 isn't a big deal when you can get those $40 games for $32 at launch at BB (w/GCU) and Amazon (w/Prime).  Shit even Gamestop sells relatively new titles for $34 (used w/Pro) and sometimes lower.

Enjoy new games for a reduced price by signing up with our memberships! XD
Well, he name dropped Amazon, I assume if you are buying from Amazon you have prime... but besides that, GCU has forced many competitors to lower their prices to match.  Very frequently Amazon will lower the price of an item to or near the GCU price regardless of Prime.  Though Amazon has been doing a lot of Prime only from what I've heard, so I don't know if you can even buy certain games without Prime.

Nice! Amazon Prime doesn't seem like a bad gig due to the free-shipping. That would pay for itself.
Free shipping, free kindle books, free streaming music and movies, etc.  Plus, if you do slow shipping instead of 2-day you get $1 digital credit per order.  I've gotten over $200 worth of PSN and eShop money from doing slow shipping.

This is what I've earned since February I think
(http://i.imgur.com/IlgC9kx.jpg)