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VGCollect Site Stuff => Video Game Database Discussion => Topic started by: n64ra on February 06, 2017, 02:48:56 pm
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Excluding Brazil, there are five games that require both the Sega CD and the Sega 32X to work, and they are listed under the 32X category. They are Corpse Killer, Fahrenheit, Night Trap, Slam City with Scottie Pippen, and Supreme Warrior. All five have Sega CD only versions. (Fahrenheit has both bundled together.) Four of them use the naming convention "<Title> (Sega CD 32X)", but Supreme Warrior does not. For consistency, I submitted a name change request but was rejected. Leaving the title as "Supreme Warrior" instead of changing it to "Supreme Warrior (Sega CD 32X)" implies it to be a 32X only game, which is wrong.
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SEGA CD 32X shouldn't be in the title.
Matter of fact, we should have a Sega CD 32X category.
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I went with the simpler approach for consistency.
That is a better idea.
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SEGA CD 32X shouldn't be in the title.
Matter of fact, we should have a Sega CD 32X category.
Not enough games to warrant a different category.
I rejected the edit for changing the name for the same reason, it shouldn't be in the title because there isn't another of a different type in the category already. It should be put into alt name field instead.
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SEGA CD 32X shouldn't be in the title.
Matter of fact, we should have a Sega CD 32X category.
Not enough games to warrant a different category.
We have categories that have 0 items.
We have several categories that have fewer than 5 items.
These games neither belong under Sega CD nor Sega 32X exclusively. They should be put under a sub-category called Sega CD 32X
The box art clearly states the platform required. "SEGA CD 32X"
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I don't think that the CD 32x games are different enough to warrant a different category. Just because they need both the console's add ons is in my opinion more comperable to an N64 game that needs the expansion pack to run.
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I don't think that the CD 32x games are different enough to warrant a different category. Just because they need both the console's add ons is in my opinion more comperable to an N64 game that needs the expansion pack to run.
So then 32X, CD, and CD 32X should all be merged into Sega Genesis?
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Yeah the categories we have with 0 items were mostly requested a long time ago, and are categories where many items exist but they are just not put into the DB yet.
32X and Sega CD already in the MD category.
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Yeah the categories we have with 0 items were mostly requested a long time ago, and are categories where many items exist but they are just not put into the DB yet.
32X and Sega CD already in the MD category.
No, based on what he was saying I was asking if Sega 32X [NA], Sega CD [NA], and Sega Genesis [NA] should all be merged to Sega Genesis [NA] because they are all comparable to the N64 with its expansion pak.
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I do think games should be separated if they were released for an add on, yes. But the thing is that all of the CD 32x games were CD games, and do not use the 32x's cartridge slot. The 32x for these games does nothing other than add more power and memory to the system, like an expansion pack.
This is supported by the fact that all the Sega CD 32x games were previously released on the Sega CD beforehand. It's like an updated version to take advantage of the new hardware.
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I do think games should be separated if they were released for an add on, yes. But the thing is that all of the CD 32x games were CD games, and do not use the 32x's cartridge slot. The 32x for these games does nothing other than add more power and memory to the system, like an expansion pack.
This is supported by the fact that all the Sega CD 32x games were previously released on the Sega CD beforehand. It's like an updated version to take advantage of the new hardware.
True. But do the games belong under Sega CD because they are CD games, or do they belong under 32X because it requires the 32X and has a yellow label.
The "simple" answer is give them their own category, they don't really belong under CD or 32X, they belong under both.
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I think maybe the label is yellow just because the 32x came out later? haha idk. I definitely don't think they should be in the category they are now.
If I had to choose, I would say Sega CD. It's why all these titles say (Sega CD 32x) in the title anyway, to differentiate it from the original Sega CD titles. But I'm not totally opposed to putting them in a separate category either :) I don't agree that having 5 titles is "too small" a library to make a new category.
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I think maybe the label is yellow just because the 32x came out later? haha idk. I definitely don't think they should be in the category they are now.
If I had to choose, I would say Sega CD. It's why all these titles say (Sega CD 32x) in the title anyway, to differentiate it from the original Sega CD titles. But I'm not totally opposed to putting them in a separate category either :) I don't agree that having 5 titles is "too small" a library to make a new category.
Yeah, if I was saying a whole new main category for just 5 games, I'd agree it isn't worth it, but I'm suggesting another sub-category under Sega Genesis/Mega Drive.
But I do see how that will also spawn a Sega CD 32X [EU].
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If you don't make a separate entry for Sega 32X CD, then you're just gonna have two entries for the game; one in Sega CD, and one in Sega 32X. That makes less sense than just making a new category.
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I don't think these games should be in the 32x category in either case. The games are only tangentially related to the 32x because they use the power of the 32x to improve what was a preexisting Sega CD game. The only link in my opinion is the box art.
That said, it does make an interesting situation where you have games that take from two add ons instead of one, which could definitely mean a different sub category.
EDIT: But I also think of the New Nintendo 3DS, which does not have it's own category, though it's a similar situation to the SCD32x in a way
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EDIT: But I also think of the New Nintendo 3DS, which does not have it's own category, though it's a similar situation to the SCD32x in a way
This did come to mind.
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I rejected the edit for changing the name for the same reason, it shouldn't be in the title because there isn't another of a different type in the category already. It should be put into alt name field instead.
Will you edit the other four to remove "(Sega CD 32X)" from the titles? Going for consistency here.
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Ok so they are Sega CD games that require the 32X, they should be in the Sega CD category and can retain the (Sega CD 32X) in the title.
If a new category is made, then they will not get to have (Sega CD 32X) in the title and this information should be in alt name field.
You can decide to modify their titles and categories now, or what until after a Sega CD 32X category is created to do that work.
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If a new category is made, then they will not get to have (Sega CD 32X) in the title and this information should be in alt name field.
Agreed.
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So are we moving them to the Sega CD category or are they getting their own category?
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New category has been requested. You can decide whether you want to do the work once (wait until category is made, then do edits) or twice (move them into Sega CD category now).
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So will people lose these games out of their collections once the change is made? (Just curious, I don't actually own any.)
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I don't think so, it would just be an edit in the item to change it over to the new category.
We also need to confirm, does Fahrenheit have two entries in the DB? We will need one im both SCD and SCD32X since the release came with both discs.
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I'd rather do work once (move from 32X category to new Sega CD 32X category). Fahrenheit already has two entries - one for Sega CD and one for 32X at least in NA.
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So will people lose these games out of their collections once the change is made? (Just curious, I don't actually own any.)
It would only happen if an item is deleted. When you change a category, it only points to the entry. Then the entry points to a user account. There is no link between user account and category.
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Since these games are now in their own category, I'm going to submit edits to take off all the "Sega CD / 32X" titles from the names. The only one I was thinking of keeping was Fahrenheit because it has a Sega CD counterpart? Does that make sense?
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Since these games are now in their own category, I'm going to submit edits to take off all the "Sega CD / 32X" titles from the names. The only one I was thinking of keeping was Fahrenheit because it has a Sega CD counterpart? Does that make sense?
Yes. I meant to make that change when I moved them, but I forgot.
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I would just put that into the alt name to help searching.