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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: oldgamerz on July 04, 2017, 06:25:51 pm
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:( I love this console and give it lots of praise. But I noticed a lot of people do not like it. my favorite thing is how sturdy it's game cartridges are. So? what are some of the things you don't like about this 1997 generation 5 Nintendo console?
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The controller is pretty garbage, but I still love the system. It's one of my favorite. That's about all I don't like.
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#1 - The controller. Just plain garbage
#2 - Lack of variety. Over 50% of its library consists of sports games and racing games. Not 1 single real RPG.
#3 - Cartridge vs CD. The ability to make a huge game on cartridge at that time was limited. So that is why #2 exists.
#4 - Not a Playstation. Self explanatory. Playstation for life.
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I like the N64, my only real issue with it is how garbage the video quality from the console is. Yes I am aware of Hdmi mods and junk, but that is expensive and not worth it imo. The library is a little lacking in my opinion as well, but that is about it.
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My only problem is that i bought Excite Bike 64 a second time without realizing i already owned it.
I'll admit the controller is not the best, but it's no where near as bad as people say it is.
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I don't like Nintendo.
And of all the Nintendo systems, the N64 and the Wii are my least favorites.
Of the consoles I own, I even prefer and play more often the 3DO over the N64, which is saying something.
Thus, I think I agree with a lot of things that have been said here so far.
- I understand that they were trying something new with the controller, but for me, it is terrible.
- It lacks games.
- I don't like its graphics and foggy visuals.
- Without modding it, the image quality is pretty bad.
- The sound compression tends to be much worse than on its main competitors such as the PS1 and the (mighty) Saturn.
And I have some other strictly personal problems with the system as well:
- I don't like its overall design.
- I don't like the fact that it uses cartridges.
- I don't like it's name.
- I usually don't care about Zelda or Mario, so, even though I respect the historical significance of the games of both series, for me, they are not enough to hold the N64's scarce library.
However, this system has one game that may well be in my top 20 of all time and that I simply LOVE. This game is the only reason why my N64 is still connected to the TV: GoldenEye 007.
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My only problem is that i bought Excite Bike 64 a second time without realizing i already owned it.
I'll admit the controller is not the best, but it's no where near as bad as people say it is.
I can't think of any other official controls that are much worse outside of the real old systems like pre-NES.
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Bad controllers and ugly visuals
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My only problem is that i bought Excite Bike 64 a second time without realizing i already owned it.
I'll admit the controller is not the best, but it's no where near as bad as people say it is.
I can't think of any other official controls that are much worse outside of the real old systems like pre-NES.
Those and I'll say the Switch's joy-cons in Handheld mode (namely the right one) that actually hurts my hand.
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I'll agree the controller is bad if you don't take care of it or hold it correctly. But I actually found it to fit my big hands well and comfortably. I love sports games and For some reason I love the Graphics. but Yes I love the SONY PlayStation 1 even more. :D
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I'm one that doesn't like it.
I really tried to get into it, too. Bought about 20-25 "must have" games like the Zeldas, Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and others.
Hate, HATE the controller. I bought a Raphnet adapter that allows you to use the GameCube controller. But that thing is a buggy piece of garbage that only works when it feels like it.
And the game selection kind of sucks. I'm not into sports games. Racing games are just "meh" to me. The platformers seemed big and empty and just filled with things to collect instead of actual platforming. And the Zelda games I thought I'd love, since I loved the series beforehand, also felt big and empty and boring to me.
I did, however, really enjoy Star Fox 64, despite how short it was.
I ended up selling it all and using it for games on other systems.
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
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It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
Gotta disagree there. Take the top 50 rated N64 games (with at least 10 reviews each) and number #50 (Pokemon Puzzle League) still scores an 82.6%.
In any case, while I do love the system, putting countless hours into games like Smash Bros., Perfect Dark, Harvest Moon 64, and Pokemon Stadium during my middle school years, I do recognize that it has flaws. Probably the most irksome nowadays are how the cartridges are presented. That they didn't make it so the box could double as a cartridge holder and that they didn't have the sticker reach the top or side of the cartridge for easy identification is rather annoying. Thankfully, both have been fixed thanks to various third party groups, but it's still annoying. The lack of good RPGs is also a detriment, but I will admit to not noticing it as much when I was growing up with the system as I had a good amount for the Game Boy and was also introduced to SNES emulation around that time, so I was able to still get my fix.
As for the controller, I never really had a problem with it (outside of the Mario Party scars), but in retrospect, it was an unnecessary design. While the overarching idea was that a game could use one of the 3 sets of grips, whatever best suited the game, very few games made use of the Left-Right configuration and I can't think of any that used the Left-Center configuration. It would have been better to just replace the d-pad with a better stick and to remove the center grip. In any case, it is still far more comfortable in the hands than a Playstation controller is. I can't hold a dualshock for much longer than 15 minutes or so without developing hand cramps (too small and not ergonomic enough for my hands).
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The controller ain't that bad if your used to it.
And there are some uncommon gems on this system like Goemons great adventure 2 wich has awesome 3D arcade grapics wich looks and plays great my favourite game on the system.
I don't think however that my collection for N64 will exceed 40 games there isn't to much good stuff around for the N64 especially for other games than mario zelda and pokemon games.
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It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
Gotta disagree there. Take the top 50 rated N64 games (with at least 10 reviews each) and number #50 (Pokemon Puzzle League) still scores an 82.6%.
In any case, while I do love the system, putting countless hours into games like Smash Bros., Perfect Dark, Harvest Moon 64, and Pokemon Stadium during my middle school years, I do recognize that it has flaws. Probably the most irksome nowadays are how the cartridges are presented. That they didn't make it so the box could double as a cartridge holder and that they didn't have the sticker reach the top or side of the cartridge for easy identification is rather annoying. Thankfully, both have been fixed thanks to various third party groups, but it's still annoying. The lack of good RPGs is also a detriment, but I will admit to not noticing it as much when I was growing up with the system as I had a good amount for the Game Boy and was also introduced to SNES emulation around that time, so I was able to still get my fix.
As for the controller, I never really had a problem with it (outside of the Mario Party scars), but in retrospect, it was an unnecessary design. While the overarching idea was that a game could use one of the 3 sets of grips, whatever best suited the game, very few games made use of the Left-Right configuration and I can't think of any that used the Left-Center configuration. It would have been better to just replace the d-pad with a better stick and to remove the center grip. In any case, it is still far more comfortable in the hands than a Playstation controller is. I can't hold a dualshock for much longer than 15 minutes or so without developing hand cramps (too small and not ergonomic enough for my hands).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHc8S82AjOo
Sums the N64 up pretty much.
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The n64 is a great party system though
not many systems with easy 4 player support.
The mario party games, smash bros mario kart 64,
It doesn;t have many great games but the games that are there are pretty nice.
Allot of the first party characters are there such as kirby pokemon zelda etc with some stellar games.
The first party titles are definitly not the worst 3D games and in allot of times far better looking than 3D games on the ps1 such as spyro or crash bandicoot in my opinion wich were the better looking 3D games on the ps1.
It might just have a small library of games wich are great but the ones that are ,are the games that people want to play and buy wich is why the hype for N64.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
The Saturn was the true successor to the super famicom. It's games reflected this.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
The Saturn was the true successor to the super famicom. It's games reflected this.
Sure but the prices for saturn are kinda high and to top it off not easy to aquire games for outside of ebay especially if your looking for the 2D games.
The more common games are usually the 3D racing games and some other crap titles.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
The Saturn was the true successor to the super famicom. It's games reflected this.
Sure but the prices for saturn are kinda high and to top it off not easy to aquire games for outside of ebay especially if your looking for the 2D games.
The more common games are usually the 3D racing games and some other crap titles.
If we are talking about the most economically friendly. There's no discussion. It's the ps1.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
The Saturn was the true successor to the super famicom. It's games reflected this.
Sure but the prices for saturn are kinda high and to top it off not easy to aquire games for outside of ebay especially if your looking for the 2D games.
The more common games are usually the 3D racing games and some other crap titles.
If we are talking about the most economically friendly. There's no discussion. It's the ps1.
I disagree Xbox, ps2 coming to second unless you collect the better games wich were not the mainstream gta racing games etc.
As far as console go at this era sure ps1.
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We had a Nintendo 64 growing up, but the only game we played (and, truthfully, needed) was Smash Bros. I didn't mind the controller. I appreciated that it looked like the end of Poseidon's trident. I actually think it's better than the Game Cube controller, but that's another discussion for another time. It's not my least favorite of Nintendo's consoles, but it has issues.
-The majority of the non-sports and npn-racing games were collectathons. In fact, Quest 64 was a collectathon disguised as an RPG.
-Speaking of RPGs, there was nothing there except Ogre Battle 64. If not for Ogre Battle, the system would be an RPG flop. (I haven't played Paper Mario or Hybrid Heaven, but I never had the desire to do so.)
-Kirby 64 was basic as hell. As a Kirby fan, I was very disappointed.
-Early 3D graphics were fugly. Other consoles are guilty of this, but this was supposed to be the N64's claim to fame.
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I like it. It's not my favorite system of all time, but it had some really good stuff.
Those THQ Wrestling games were great. All of them.
Star Fox 64
Rogue Squardon
Ocarina of Time
Conker's Bad Fur day
Mario Kart 64
Perfect Dark
Smash Bros
Shadows of the Empire
Excitebike 64
Those are all still fun. That's enough to buy a $30 system
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
I dare you to not be a moron who regurgitates things you read on reddit and actually look at the library.
Your comment proves you know very little about the N64's library if you think there are less than 50 good games for the console, much less 50 okay ones. I'll help you out, look at my N64 games I own and if you still stand by your statement you are beyond anyone's help.
You are allowed to not like the N64, but you have no right to write off a huge chunk of the library as being shit just because you don't like them. I don't like the Metal Gear games, but I'm not about to call them shit or bad games. Just not my cup of tea.
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The lack of RPGs. -_-
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All of my best memories of N64 games is playing them on other platforms. So to start:
1. Not enough exclusive titles. And not just "console exclusives" I'm talking about games not on PC either.
2. Controller was weird.
3. Graphics are blurry on purpose.
4. Carts do not have spine labels.
I personally never owned an N64. I had a Saturn and then Dreamcast. So the only experiences I had with N64 when it was out was any friends that had it. And that also limited me to the games that they had. And then I can tell by the games they had that were just bad versions of other games.
Episode I Racer, Quake, Doom, Starcraft, Turok 2, Forsaken, Gauntlet Legends, Hexen, etc.
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
It's hard to argue that any game with a metacritic rating of 75+ is considered shit and there are 56 N64 games with a rating of 75+, and I'd argue that a lot of the games under 75 aren't shit either.
Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64.
Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
And before folks throw out the "Sports games are shit" there are a lot of sports games that are legitimately fun. NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, WWF No Mercy, etc. I get it's hard to look at sports games objectively because they release every year if not multiple times a year with little to no changes, but it doesn't make them not fun to play with other people.
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Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64. Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
Mega Man 64 is shit. That is a scientific fact.
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Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64. Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
Mega Man 64 is shit. That is a scientific fact.
*blows raspberry* Eat a dick, turf.
Mega Man 64 and the Legends franchise in general is my favorite Mega Man series, and one of my favorite games.
So again, eat a dick.
You know... no offense though.
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Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64. Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
Mega Man 64 is shit. That is a scientific fact.
*blows raspberry* Eat a dick, turf.
Mega Man 64 and the Legends franchise in general is my favorite Mega Man series, and one of my favorite games.
So again, eat a dick.
You know... no offense though.
So you like bad games? Mega Man Legends or Mega Man 64 isn't Mega Man. Mega Man rules. Those games do not.
While I respect your opinion, your opinion is wrong. ;)
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Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64. Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
Mega Man 64 is shit. That is a scientific fact.
*blows raspberry* Eat a dick, turf.
Mega Man 64 and the Legends franchise in general is my favorite Mega Man series, and one of my favorite games.
So again, eat a dick.
You know... no offense though.
So you like bad games? Mega Man Legends or Mega Man 64 isn't Mega Man. Mega Man rules. Those games do not.
While I respect your opinion, your opinion is wrong. ;)
Opinions are subjective and can't be wrong...
But objectively, you're being a dick...
But they do say you are what you eat.
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Pictured: Turf's favorite snack.
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I can only name 1 game on the 64 that I find worth using my time ever playing : Mario Kart 64. Thats it. Period. End of discussion.
There isnt one other game on the system that I personally would invest money/time/lawn clippings to have anything to do with.
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Loved it, the controller at times was not the greatest but it worked well (minus the sticks getting messed up all the time it seems).
Biggest complaint was lack of games in comparison to the PS1, especially good games like various JRPG's. Most ports form PS1 were also a little dumbed down.
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Mega Man Legends is awesome...but thankfully you can play it on a PlayStation rather than using that monstrosity of a controller.
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Personally I've never been a fan of the Nintendo 64 ever since its launch in North America. This could be for a couple of reasons;
- It was over hyped in majority video-game magazines, when in reality software library lacked variety.
- I wasn't impressed with the 3D graphics, Jumping Flash! impressed me which was released a year prior.
- I remember playing Tomb Raider on my Sega Saturn two months after Mario 64 release, which had a similar experience.
- Never was a fan of 3-D platform genre.
Another reason why I dislike N64 could be, I grew up playing arcade games and really enjoyed bringing the experience home which I decided to go with Sega Saturn, and eventually PlayStation instead. Ironically I grew up with Nintendo Entertianment System, Super Nintendo, and Game Boy Pocket and enjoyed playing them immensely.
The Saturn was the true successor to the super famicom. It's games reflected this.
Sure but the prices for saturn are kinda high and to top it off not easy to aquire games for outside of ebay especially if your looking for the 2D games.
The more common games are usually the 3D racing games and some other crap titles.
If we are talking about the most economically friendly. There's no discussion. It's the ps1.
I disagree Xbox, ps2 coming to second unless you collect the better games wich were not the mainstream gta racing games etc.
As far as console go at this era sure ps1.
Presumed you meant 5th gen. And i'd still argue the 360 for more bang for buck. HD gaming and it's historic achieve of most of the games from the past at your finger tips for peanuts.
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+1 for the Mega Man Legends is awesome train. Mega Man Legends is a Mega Man game through and through, there is more than Classic and X.
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
It's hard to argue that any game with a metacritic rating of 75+ is considered shit and there are 56 N64 games with a rating of 75+, and I'd argue that a lot of the games under 75 aren't shit either.
Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64.
Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
And before folks throw out the "Sports games are shit" there are a lot of sports games that are legitimately fun. NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, WWF No Mercy, etc. I get it's hard to look at sports games objectively because they release every year if not multiple times a year with little to no changes, but it doesn't make them not fun to play with other people.
If you're rationalising sport games. You'll rationalise anything. If you're really proudly into sports games I think you could find a different system for those needs, and be much better catered too for a fraction of the price.
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
It's hard to argue that any game with a metacritic rating of 75+ is considered shit and there are 56 N64 games with a rating of 75+, and I'd argue that a lot of the games under 75 aren't shit either.
Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64.
Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
And before folks throw out the "Sports games are shit" there are a lot of sports games that are legitimately fun. NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, WWF No Mercy, etc. I get it's hard to look at sports games objectively because they release every year if not multiple times a year with little to no changes, but it doesn't make them not fun to play with other people.
If you're rationalising sport games. You'll rationalise anything. If you're really proudly into sports games I think you could find a different system for those needs, and be much better catered to for a fraction of the price.
I like how your only comment is to knock on sports games, I'm glad you agree that the N64 has a great library and that your only complaint at this point is that sports games suck. ;)
Anyway, you can't get the good AKI wrestling games on any platform other than N64. Mario Golf and Mario Tennis obviously you can't get elsewhere, though Hot Shots Golf is a close one for Golf. NFL Blitz and NBA Jam are a different breed of sports game and that's what makes them enjoyable.
Also, my statement was that there are fun sports games, not that all sports games are fun.
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+1 for the Mega Man Legends is awesome train. Mega Man Legends is a Mega Man game through and through, there is more than Classic and X.
I think it's awesome, too (I posted as such above).
But that said, it really isn't a Mega Man game. They should've just started a new franchise. So I can totally see how the Mega Man diehard fans would hate it.
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Mega Man Legends?
More like Meh-ga Man Legends. HEY-O!
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Woo! Mega Man Legends! Love that game. I'd rather play those than most of the sidescroller ones lol Maybe not the X series, but yeah...Certainly over the NES ones. Don't remember if I actually played Mega Man 64 though. I know I played the PS1 version.
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+1 for the Mega Man Legends is awesome train. Mega Man Legends is a Mega Man game through and through, there is more than Classic and X.
I think it's awesome, too (I posted as such above).
But that said, it really isn't a Mega Man game. They should've just started a new franchise. So I can totally see how the Mega Man diehard fans would hate it.
A lot of diehard fans don't like BN/Starforce either, but they're still Mega Man games. Saying Legends isn't a traditional Mega Man game I could agree with. I see where people come from when saying it isn't a Mega Man game though, it is a big departure from the traditional style.
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I really like the N64 and in fact it is my favorite Nintendo console. I admit the early 3D of many of the games did not age well, but that doesn't discount how awesome its library is, especially since it has fewer than 300 games released for it, at least in north America. Never had an issue with its controller either which is something a lot of people hate on heavily. The other criticism I hear a lot is the lack of variety in the types of games, citing that much of the library is either racing or sports games. While there are many games of these genres on the N64, this argument discounts the many other great titles that aren't of these two genres and also discounts that many of the games of these genres are actually pretty good. Speaking of genres, there aren't many RPGs on the N64, which I think is a fair criticism. I have made a point to collect only the best games on the N64 (save a few titles), and these titles go toe to toe and even exceed anything on the SNES or NES (except possibly in the RPG department).
It's a console that's impossible to name a top 50 list without shit on it.
It's hard to argue that any game with a metacritic rating of 75+ is considered shit and there are 56 N64 games with a rating of 75+, and I'd argue that a lot of the games under 75 aren't shit either.
Some examples of under 75 not being shit: Quake, Duke Nukem 64, Mario Party 3, Dr. Mario 64, Mystical Ninja, Yoshi's Story, Mega Man 64.
Not to mention the fact that metacritic is missing nearly 2/3 of the library.
And before folks throw out the "Sports games are shit" there are a lot of sports games that are legitimately fun. NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, WWF No Mercy, etc. I get it's hard to look at sports games objectively because they release every year if not multiple times a year with little to no changes, but it doesn't make them not fun to play with other people.
If you're rationalising sport games. You'll rationalise anything. If you're really proudly into sports games I think you could find a different system for those needs, and be much better catered to for a fraction of the price.
I like how your only comment is to knock on sports games, I'm glad you agree that the N64 has a great library and that your only complaint at this point is that sports games suck. ;)
Anyway, you can't get the good AKI wrestling games on any platform other than N64. Mario Golf and Mario Tennis obviously you can't get elsewhere, though Hot Shots Golf is a close one for Golf. NFL Blitz and NBA Jam are a different breed of sports game and that's what makes them enjoyable.
Also, my statement was that there are fun sports games, not that all sports games are fun.
Oh yes a 3 year old censored nukem 64 port with no music, the worst console port. Inferior quake port compared to the Saturn version. Mega man legends cough also on playstation the superior port. Yoshi's story. Shit, well average. The Yoshi game on super nintendo was much much better game. You know I did own one on launch? And well I did look at the list he sent, some good ones but plenty of junk on the list, sorry. Ranging from shit to average. I just didn't want to offend. North America is far to entrenched in the nintendo fanaticism anyway I don't think id get very far explaining why most of those games are irrelevant today or poorly aged. Better angle to approach it how many of those have you played in the last week and for how long?
The N64's bloodline was it's 3D platformers,well collect em ups it got old after finishing mario 64 and banjo was more than enough at least for me. But I think most would agree anyway today 3D has aged poorly from that generation and irrelevant. To be honest I think the system is a joke and only has a cult following in the North american market and some parts of europe, it bombed in japan. If your compare it game wise and sales wise to the SNES it's also painful.
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All this talk about 3D platformers has me wanting to go back and play some lol Really need Nintendo to hurry up with the Virtual Console, so I can grab Mario 64. I guess in the meantime I can just re-hook up my 360 and play the HD ports of Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie at least. Probably good to go back to the roots after the okay time I spent in Yooka-Laylee.
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If your into 3D arcade games there are some interesting ones.
sin and punishment for the japanese N64 And one shoot em up star soldier
If you like arcade titles these are not titles that one can call bad.
If you are a 2D purist I can imagine that one can hate the N64 but the good games aren't bad.
Than again the N64 is just another console to collect for, you don't need to focus only on N64 just another console to play some games on.
There are some gems on this system wich are allot better than average and to be fair haven't ages that much and still look great.
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The only complaint I have is lack of third party support, but back in the day what we had more than sufficed.
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I actually enjoy the n64. Usually play the wrestling games on it. And have very fond memories of my buds and I kicking the crap out of each other. My biggest beef is not having labels on top of the loose carts I have almost 100 loose carts and I pull out my drawers no clue what I'm looking at. Going to have to buy those 3rd party labels.
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If your into 3D arcade games there are some interesting ones.
sin and punishment for the japanese N64 And one shoot em up star soldier
If you like arcade titles these are not titles that one can call bad.
If you are a 2D purist I can imagine that one can hate the N64 but the good games aren't bad.
Than again the N64 is just another console to collect for, you don't need to focus only on N64 just another console to play some games on.
There are some gems on this system wich are allot better than average and to be fair haven't ages that much and still look great.
I actually have "Star Soldier Vanishing Earth" I always thought it was an american game. didn't know I ever owned anything that was official made in Japan, I do know it is in English. I think I only paid 10-15 US currency for it at a flea market vendor called "The Video Game Graveyard" it's seems in great conduction. in Fact I think it is one of the only shoot em ups on the N64 console
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If your into 3D arcade games there are some interesting ones.
sin and punishment for the japanese N64 And one shoot em up star soldier
If you like arcade titles these are not titles that one can call bad.
If you are a 2D purist I can imagine that one can hate the N64 but the good games aren't bad.
Than again the N64 is just another console to collect for, you don't need to focus only on N64 just another console to play some games on.
There are some gems on this system wich are allot better than average and to be fair haven't ages that much and still look great.
I actually have "Star Soldier Vanishing Earth" I always thought it was an american game. didn't know I ever owned anything that was official made in Japan, I do know it is in English. I think I only paid 10-15 US currency for it at a flea market vendor called "The Video Game Graveyard" it's seems in great conduction. in Fact I think it is one of the only shoot em ups on the N64 console
It's just okay.
But compared to the other games in the Star Soldier series, it's crap. The older Star Soldier games are amazing shoot-em ups.
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Don't have any personal issues with this console not even when it has one of the worst controllers ever I managed somehow to get used to it but what I really don't like about the N64 is the fact that because of some titles like Turok or Golden Eye 64 I discovered that am not able to play first person shooters because of the damn motion sickness that I have :'(
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The controller is the only thing i seriously hate about the N64 but the graphics haven't quite stood the test of time just like PS1 hasn't quite stood the test of time graphic wise. Early 3D games were visually a work in progress and the 3D while awesome at the time coming from a 16 bit 2d visual, it was still very much blocky and ugly and once you see what we have now, N64 doesn't hold up not even nostalgically like the SNES does. and even HD remakes and such look pretty lousy.
I'd say the N64 has one of the more consistent libraries of any console with a lot of must have legendary games :). But the controller is the worst controller ever made imo, it is so uncomfortable to the point where no matter how good a game is i will most likely not finish it do to the pain the unrubbered grooved plastic death knob caused to the thumb and its odd location in the center of the controller. it's truly unpleasant for me :(
N64 is amazing for it's time but i think much like PS1 it's predecessor console was much better. And the graphics have held up much better :). But N64 will always have a place in my heart...
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the fact it didn't have more 3rd party developers.
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The controller never bothered me, quite frankly. Only thing I can think that I truly disliked was the lack of variety, as some have mentioned already. There were plenty of titles that never saw a release outside Japan that could have benefited the console in its day.