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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: dreama1 on November 12, 2017, 04:11:10 am
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Do you put your game discs inside a disc wallet? If not, why? And is it safe rather than the case?
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I put my rare disc games in plastic CD cases similar to PS1 cases so I don't have to open the case when I want to play it and put stress on the art work or plastic and I can also put it in a case protector without having to open it up everytime I want to play :).
As for common to uncommon games I always keep them in their regular case. I assume disc wallets can be more convenient but I only use them for disc only games I have.
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Disc wallets can damage the discs when inserting them the disc shaves the bottom everytime you remove and insert one in the disc wallet not to mention some disc wallets can be very tight.
In a normal disc case the disc doesn't touch the bottom and can remain in the same condition. It's pretty easy to store a disc nicely
I've had seen tons of discs that had light shave marks and sratches thanks to those disc wallets or disc sleeves.
Would not recommend them.
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Disc wallets can damage the discs when inserting them the disc shaves the bottom everytime you remove and insert one in the disc wallet not to mention some disc wallets can be very tight.
In a normal disc case the disc doesn't touch the bottom and can remain in the same condition. It's pretty easy to store a disc nicely
I've had seen tons of discs that had light shave marks and sratches thanks to those disc wallets or disc sleeves.
Would not recommend them.
Yeah I was thinking the same as that. Wondered if there was high market one that does not do said damage.
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Disc wallets can damage the discs when inserting them the disc shaves the bottom everytime you remove and insert one in the disc wallet not to mention some disc wallets can be very tight.
In a normal disc case the disc doesn't touch the bottom and can remain in the same condition. It's pretty easy to store a disc nicely
I've had seen tons of discs that had light shave marks and sratches thanks to those disc wallets or disc sleeves.
Would not recommend them.
Yeah I was thinking the same as that. Wondered if there was high market one that does not do said damage.
you cannot avoid damage overtime it will have light shave marks or sratches you have to slide the disc in and out no matter how of a good quality the disc wallet is.
I will say though, damage will never be letal for the discs, the damage is pretty light overall it should not have any effect if you take care of the discs other than the disc wallet ofcourse..
However if you want to keep your discs in the same condition for as long as possible I would not recommended to use these so called disc sleeves / wallets.
Personally I have seen many examples It's nice and all to have discs in a wallet but you should at least store your discs in a cd case to keep them in the same condition, gameplay wise it should just be fine damage is very minor like I said, it will not get worse after a certain point well at least not really noticable chances.
If you like minty discs they will be ruined that's for sure.
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^ What they said.
HOWEVER. I once customized a disc wallet with felt inside the sleeve and the discs over a period of 2 decades never had a scratch. I suppose you could use thin microfiber towels to cut up instead of felt in today's world but either way you could use a disc wallet and not damage the discs. Personally I'd rather have the full case/artwork experience. Every time I go to swap out a disc I take a moment to take in and appreciate the artwork. 8)
what discs did you use.
Ps3 ps4 discs xbox 360 and xbox one wii u discs are very sturdy and are very hard to get scratches on
wii ps2 era and before are the ones that aren't as tough.
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I used to with my music CDs for easy access. But never again after learning that these things help contribute to disc rot, due to the pages rubbing up against each other when there's movement or weight shifting.
Now I keep only burned copies of my CDs in one for the car.
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I used to with my music CDs for easy access. But never again after learning that these things help contribute to disc rot, due to the pages rubbing up against each other when there's movement or weight shifting.
Now I keep only burned copies of my CDs in one for the car.
I have no clue where you got that info but disc rot is more influenced thanks to the temperature. your info seems incorrect if you would like my opinion.
Very high or low temperatures or a very tropical climate can increase the speed when disc rot might appear and just overtime with normal conditions.
Will not appear faster or slower when storing them in either cd jewel cases or a disc wallet.
As far as disc rot goes I don't think that we have to fear for that in our current life time if you just store them normally and don't live in a tropical jungle of some sorts :D
maybe for the sega cd saturn but otherwise not really an issue. unless you collect older dvd'd and music cd's wich were of low quality. game discs have been made allot more sturdy since you should be able to use them allot and for longer play sessions not to mention that they should also still work after some abuse since it was also for kids.
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The information is stored at the top of the disc. When the pages of the binder rub against each other over time, it wears on the disc eventually causing chunks of information to be rubbed away with it, making holes (or disc rot) in the information.
This is pretty well known. Not only do I have personal experience with it from the music CDs I mentioned, but you can Google "CD binder disc rot" and find plenty of other people that have posted about the issue.
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The information is stored at the top of the disc. When the pages of the binder rub against each other over time, it wears on the disc eventually causing chunks of information to be rubbed away with it, making holes (or disc rot) in the information.
This is pretty well known. Not only do I have personal experience with it from the music CDs I mentioned, but you can Google "CD binder disc rot" and find plenty of other people that have posted about the issue.
top information storage is correct I'll give you that but the top part of a disc scratches allot less. That part will not even receive visual damage from a disc wallet, bottom side is allot more fragile than the top in terms of scratches etc. maybe if some sand is inside the disc wallet.
As far as top side scratches go you have to put some real effort to damage that top layer of a disc especially of console discs wich also have a layer for some disc art aside from some protection. Maybe with normal copy discs, early dvd's or music cd's but otherwise not really something to fear about. you cannot compare all discs to console game discs, console games are allot more sturdy since they have to last unlike dvd's or music cd's
Also that issue that you mentioned isn't disc rot, i could just scratch the top side of some of my discs to remove data layers and render my games unplayable, I would say physical damage but not disc rot, disc rot appears without scratches but thanks to some chemical reactions without any traces of phsyical damage over time. cold or hot temperatures could increase the chances of disc rot appearing faster.
You can't confuse disc rot with physical abuse if I read you info correctly two totally different things.
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Nope.
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For the few loose CD-based games I've owned I put them in generic jewel cases until I was able to find the original case or replace the, with a complete copy.
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I always keep them in their cases.
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Sacrilege.
Games are to be stored in their appropriate boxes or cases.
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^ What they said.
HOWEVER. I once customized a disc wallet with felt inside the sleeve and the discs over a period of 2 decades never had a scratch. I suppose you could use thin microfiber towels to cut up instead of felt in today's world but either way you could use a disc wallet and not damage the discs. Personally I'd rather have the full case/artwork experience. Every time I go to swap out a disc I take a moment to take in and appreciate the artwork. 8)
what discs did you use.
I inherited a large amount of audio CDs from a family member that were all in empty generic CD jewel cases. Didn't have room for them during that time so I needed an alternative solution.
if you only insert them discs and never use them while leaving them in there for 2 decades chances are that damage is pretty minimal or zero since you only slid them in there one time. unless ofcourse you actually used the discs quite often than I won't disagree that your right if you have a custom wallet with the right materials, I highly doubt it tough. I would never use one for my personal items period.
If you rarely use it you could even leave them with minor to no damage in a normal disc wallet. If your just going to put them in there one or maybe just a few times.
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Only for discs without cases or sleeves already. I have a lot this way and my main binders are console, computer games, computer software, music. Not really a "wallet" but more like a binder. I have maybe 5 of these with two of them currently empty. Have not had any damage to discs from storing them in there. Any I keep in the car are always covered from the sun. Some plastic can leech into disc artwork and get stuck to the top of the disc, but I've only had this happen with music CDs because those are the only ones that end up being taken out of the house and out of the recommended temperature range.
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Lol no, those things will easily cause damage to the disc over time with the constant removal and re-inserting of the discs.
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I have a disc binder for a couple of games I have no cases for including some demoes although after hearing some of the comments here, I may want to rethink using them which now brings me this question. Are those plastic disc holders any good? The ones that are used to stored blank CDs?
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I always keep mine in their original cases.
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Once upon a time, now I need them in their cases on a shelf or something.
Disc wallets rub up against the back and when you accumulate more games, they tend to put pressure on the other games from the weight.
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I have a disc binder for a couple of games I have no cases for including some demoes although after hearing some of the comments here, I may want to rethink using them which now brings me this question. Are those plastic disc holders any good? The ones that are used to stored blank CDs?
there a lot better than the disc wallets. I've lost a lot of good music from the disc wallets and I live in Michigan. where it's cold in the winter, and hot in the summer. but I never lost a single CD if I put them in those think or thin jewel cases. I even lost some CD's from not putting them in cases at all due to disc rot, and I don't live in a jungle at all and nothing close.
If you want my advice then don't use wallet cases no matter where you live AND instead always put your CD's back into some kind of plastic case even if it is a half a case, but I would also recommend a full closing plastic case to be extra safe
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I use mine as costers and frisbees
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I have a disc binder for a couple of games I have no cases for including some demoes although after hearing some of the comments here, I may want to rethink using them which now brings me this question. Are those plastic disc holders any good? The ones that are used to stored blank CDs?
there a lot better than the disc wallets. I've lost a lot of good music from the disc wallets and I live in Michigan. where it's cold in the winter, and hot in the summer. but I never lost a single CD if I put them in those think or thin jewel cases. I even lost some CD's from not putting them in cases at all due to disc rot, and I don't live in a jungle at all and nothing close.
If you want my advice then don't use wallet cases no matter where you live AND instead always put your CD's back into some kind of plastic case even if it is a half a case, but I would also recommend a full closing plastic case to be extra safe
how long did you have them stored in that manner before they started to deteriorate?
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there a lot better than the disc wallets. I've lost a lot of good music from the disc wallets and I live in Michigan. where it's cold in the winter, and hot in the summer. but I never lost a single CD if I put them in those think or thin jewel cases. I even lost some CD's from not putting them in cases at all due to disc rot, and I don't live in a jungle at all and nothing close.
If you want my advice then don't use wallet cases no matter where you live AND instead always put your CD's back into some kind of plastic case even if it is a half a case, but I would also recommend a full closing plastic case to be extra safe
how long did you have them stored in that manner before they started to deteriorate?
I got some CD's as a gift being left in a car (for I don't know how long.)
But some of the CD's were damaged in the wallet even before I touched them and when they were originally stored in a car, due to disk rot.
and right when I moved into a basement setting they all rotted within a year in the wallet in my basement. when I opened the wallet the CD's were all sticky and the top layer peeled off upon removal.
In fact it is safer to leave you CD's out then to permanently store them in a CD wallet. although I managed to keep some of my CD's in a small wallet for over 10 years and no problem until I moved them into a basement setting
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Well well I see why people always complain about disc rot ::)
Keeping discs in a car with major chances of temperature being very hot or very cold is a big no no, jewel case disc wallet or anything really, If you were to keep some of your older sega cd based games and even ps2 games in there for a longer time you can say goodbey to those games and hello to disc rot 8)
Also not to mention people who buy games at fleamarkets, people want to get rid of their stuff so maybe it was stored in a cold or very hot place etc for quite some time. It's kinda expected that you will find some disc rot, people wanted to get rid of them games and treated them games like trash anyways.
If you were just to keep your discs in a normal enviroment disc rot should not be a problem at all.
Basements and garages aren't always the best places to store discs unless it has been made well wich usually they are not since it costs some nice money. Better than a car though way better.
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If you were just to keep your discs in a normal enviroment disc rot should not be a problem at all.
I have CD's I've had since the late 80's, which spent the better part of the 90's in giant CD wallets/books, and I've never had a single one with disc rot. Of course, they are stored indoors. In fact, the only time I've ever even seen disc rot was with a game I bought at Gamestop last year (Which I promptly returned)
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If you were just to keep your discs in a normal enviroment disc rot should not be a problem at all.
I have CD's I've had since the late 80's, which spent the better part of the 90's in giant CD wallets/books, and I've never had a single one with disc rot. Of course, they are stored indoors. In fact, the only time I've ever even seen disc rot was with a game I bought at Gamestop last year (Which I promptly returned)
Gamestop has been going downhill for years now. The times it was the hottest was during the PlayStation 2 era of gaming, also known as the the 6th console generation in which at that time they sold generation 5 games a well from 2000 till I think 2007
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Negative. I used to, I also used to keep my audio cds in one. After a while I noticed my audio cds had wear on the backs and some where the pages had rubbed together had taken the paint/label right off. After inspecting my game discs they too had noticeable wear on the backside but luckily I didn't use that wallet as much as I did my audio cds. So I managed to get by with only having to replace a few game discs rather than half of my 400ct wallet of audio cds.
I swore off of them at that point and encourage others to do the same.