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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: oldgamerz on April 04, 2018, 02:07:37 am
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I raved on another thread about how much I can't stand the current status of mostly every Super Nintendo game on the used cartridge only on every single flea market, convention and or even online.
If so, has anyone ever payed less then $10 on ANY NON sports game on the Super Nintendo/ SNES for the last lets say 4 years?
everywhere you look it seems like you only can find the singled out for $15 or more for even some of the lousy games
I said it once before I'll say it again Super Nintendo games are too overpriced and the games are not worth more than $10 a peice.
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if we're being real here, it's quite understandable that SNES games are priced the way they are, there being more saught over by more and more collectors. I have to agree with you that a lot of them are worth less then $10 (especially Thomas & friends), but the only way it can go sown in price is if they become more common and less saught after, taking a look at my SNES collection, the last time I payed less then $10 for a game was Vegas Stakes. I payed $8 around the late 2000's, and the cartidge was about a 6.5/10 in condition. Super Nintendo consoles on the other hand are cheap if you don't get the cables, don't get the controllers, and the console is severally yellowed (seen them at a flea market for $20-$30.
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Luckily video game collecting is slowly dying and according to historical price graphs on Price Charting SNES prices have been in a long plateau period, bucking the trend of continuous sharp increases in prices we've been seeing since 2011 or so. I predict by 2020, maybe sooner we'll see a fairly significant price drop in the console overall.
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So glad I got a lot of what I really wanted on SNES years before. Because this is totally true. I still don't have a lot of the RPGs, though, because those have always been a bit pricey. Luckily a lot of them were re-released on other consoles/handhelds, or through Wii Ware or something.
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Personally I have to disagree I have sold many snes games in recent times especially cib in excellent shape it sells very fast and It's not the kinda stuff that people keep to long unless your prices are unfair or the condition is just bad not to great.
Lose carts have remained the same value wise in the past few years that is. CIB excellent shape on the otherhand in the past few years have increased even titles such as super castlevania or link to the past here in europe by quite a bit if the condition is nice. Not to mention that foreign buyers who are looking are very aggresive in trying to get them and not shy of spending big It's kinda ridiculous really that people search for games worldwide while not even talking about ebay some even using google translate and I'm not talking only about top tier titles exclusively in this case. Cib in nice shape is not always available and pretty rare in the desired condition for allot of items these days.
Collectors can be quite desperate at times I've had some hilarious stories over the years.
That being said do we really need higher prices. People are always talking about that prices do not increase etc but than again think about the 2nd 1st tier rare games in the 500+ category
Allot of people in this hobby are not rich and there are some very passionate collectors out there who will otherwise never squire certain items. Of those less wealthy people some have to save up for a single item for years to finally aquire it meaning that they cannot buy anything else no birthday or christmas presents. They also have to deal with kids wifes who find the hobby ridiclous etc wich also slows things down for higher purchases ::) The more rare an item is the higher the chance that these passionate collectors will probably never aquire one since there are people while not many who can easily afford it and are rich. only if it is that rare an item might increase in value big time since the bigger spenders might not have it yet.
I'm pretty sure we can rest assured that prices of the normal and semi rare stuff wil either decrease, stay stable or increase a bit I do not expect a big rise in prices but I also not expect a major decrease since cib snes sells very nicely these days if the condition is there. Lose carts I'd say maybe but the majority is pretty cheap even of the better games It's only a mere fraction that has some decent value to be fair but than again to many 20$ for a retro game is an expensive thing indeed :D
That being said retro games are now easily available to everyone thanks to these high prices. Would we really have roms and everdrives if prices were low not to mention many people would not be in this hobby. I'm pretty sure that the hyped games of today hagane wild guns etc would not even have good roms if any on pc to play if not for the high prices and thus potential interested players in the community of today not to mention that old roms of older game sites would not be maintained an would expire vanish since nobody uses them anymore.. Nintendo eshop snes mini would not be there. I'm pretty sure a very niche group would collect all the games but for many it would have been an unknown thing. Would be a pretty interesting world to see really if one were to be such a collector. Than again with such few collectors even for the more rare games there would be more games than collectors so that would work out pretty easily since nobody is interested in it.
I think zelda metroid and mario sure but allot of games would probably only be gotten by some who played it back in the day orm a a very niche market of some of the very old collectors not to mention that many would get over their child hood at some point since they will probably not get the other games that they never played. If the prices were low I think many people would rebuy their child hood with them games for a a short while and either keep or sell it on.
I personally would have probably be gone after my 20 - 30 childhood games orso while never discovering the other games if prices were cheap and i would not have such an expensive taste of child hood nostalgia since those games were harder to come by at the time. Not the most expensive things but prices ranging from 30 - 70 euro's is pretty pricy I'd say if one has less money. You would expect allot less from used games. Just imagine if games were 5 to 10 $ at most it would be totally different everyone could buy the games he had as a kid and since it is so easily available many would not go on. It would be a short nostalgia moments to many I'd figure since many would not give other titles a chance since there is not much known about it. Would apply to me personally and I can't imagine my friends doing it any different since we did play simular games back in the day.
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I bought in-box copies of Alien Vs. Predator, Desert Strike, and Wolfenstein 3D for a buck each about 3-4 years ago at a yard sale.
Right now the SNES is fully in the spotlight of nostalgia, but it's starting to move over to the PlayStation and N64. I imagine in a few years, we'll see prices start to come down. Back to reasonable levels? Probably not- even younger collectors lacking timely experience with the games have had 'these are good & valuable' hammered into their brains, that's not going away. There is definitely a re-settlement coming though, as we start to see what people who are playing as opposed to merely collecting/investing are willing to pay.
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Newer bigger and positively even better games in my opinion are going for a lot less for just about every single console except the Super Nintendo
Usually it is the rich that purchase Super Nintendo games and NEO GEO. Super Nintendo games I just can't get into in which is why. I think they should go down in price unless your paying for more then one game per cartridge. there are better games in my opinion going for a lot less.
Challenge and frustration should not cost an arm and a leg. at least NES games are not as high as the Super Nintendo.
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Newer bigger and positively even better games in my opinion are going for a lot less for just about every single console except the Super Nintendo
Usually it is the rich that purchase Super Nintendo games and NEO GEO. Super Nintendo games I just can't get into in which is why. I think they should go down in price unless your paying for more then one game per cartridge. there are better games in my opinion going for a lot less.
Challenge and frustration should not cost an arm and a leg. at least NES games are not as high as the Super Nintendo.
If your going cib I can understand the frustration but lose carts aren't that pricy for the most part.
It is unfortunate that titles such as chrono trigger and earthbound even lose are pricy I'll give it that.
That being said chrono trigger is better played on the ps1 or ds since they have more features and content compared to the original on the snes.
Not to mention for gameplay sake just buy an everdrive same experience as the original better than emulation on pc or another console withouth the expense of many games.
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The current scene is a far cry from the glory days, that's for sure. Then again, the market/hobby basically shit the bed at some point in the late 90s-early 2000s when the common phrase "older games" became retro games & every clueless kid with a camera jumped on the YouTube train.
Right up until about 15-20 years ago, nearly every yard sale and flea overflowed with cartridges. Things like ebay - and a bit later YouTube - put an end to this.
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That being said chrono trigger is better played on the ps1 or ds since they have more features and content compared to the original on the snes.
That's another big thing with SNES stuff: most of the big titles have been rereleased in one form or another over the years and those can be obtained much cheaper. And that's not even factoring in how easy emulation is for those systems.
Really, the only reason to have retro carts is because you want to own the retro carts. If a person just wants to play them, there are so many more easier, cheaper options.
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SNES is brutal to collect for if you are going complete- so many games that aren't necessarily rare but command $100+ prices. Still, I'd say that its not too bad, average boxed game around here goes for 20 to 30, average loose around 8 or 9 dollars, though those aren't always the games you would want to play. Other people have already mentioned it in the thread, but there are alternate cheaper means to play the vast majority of truly great SNES games. And, beyond that, if a game really is truly great it will probably give you more than ten dollars worth of pleasure anyway. I'd actually say that SNES prices are at about what the market can bear right now, they've held steady for two or so years now, perhaps with a slight decline.
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I think the prices of most SNES games are generally pretty reasonable. There are a few popular titles that I would consider "prohibitively expensive", like Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Mega Man X3. Even the common popular games tend to cap out around $30-40 which is pretty fair for a game that everyone wants to play.
The biggest problem with market price (at least in my area) is people who don't understand that the games don't intrinsically have value just because they are SNES games. And that generally comes from the same people who try to sell Madden from 2 years ago for $15-20. "What do you mean you won't pay $10 for -Sports Game 7-? People are selling them Marios for $20-30!"
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I don't know where some you get the idea that loose carts haven't increased in price. You must have not been collecting for very long, if you think that.
I used to be able to go like any thrift shop, flea market, or used music shop and find loose SNES carts for under $10 on a regular basis. And I mean stuff like Mario and Zelda, not sports titles or bad platformers.
Now, unless it is a cheap licensed game or a sports game, you aren't even gonna find them loose for under $10, and thrift shops and such are lucky to even have sports SNES titles when you walk in anymore. Unless you get lucky and find that one yard sale or thrift shop run by a little old lady that has no clue.
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I don't know where some you get the idea that loose carts haven't increased in price. You must have not been collecting for very long, if you think that.
I used to be able to go like any thrift shop, flea market, or used music shop and find loose SNES carts for under $10 on a regular basis. And I mean stuff like Mario and Zelda, not sports titles or bad platformers.
Now, unless it is a cheap licensed game or a sports game, you aren't even gonna find them loose for under $10, and thrift shops and such are lucky to even have sports SNES titles when you walk in anymore. Unless you get lucky and find that one yard sale or thrift shop run by a little old lady that has no clue.
Were talking about the past few years. It's pretty obvious years ago many titles were cheap since allot less people were looking for them but I was pretty sure many people here would need no explanation for that considering this topic is about people complaining about the high prices wich includes lose carts of today and that prices were cheap back than
Your logic is pretty hard to understand for something this obvious ::)
Would love for it to be true though since prices would be cheap in today's market with your logic since no chances have happened for lose carts.
lose carts of the good games have stayed more or less the same value wise as far as the past 2 to 3 years go. Cib that Is another story though if the condition is there.
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What?
The title of the thread is about Super Nintendo prices "Today". "Your Opinion Of Super Nintendo Game And Console Prices Today"
That means, as opposed to the past...that's not hard to understand at all. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine and responded as such. No logic needed. Just simple reading comprehension.
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What?
The title of the thread is about Super Nintendo prices "Today". "Your Opinion Of Super Nintendo Game And Console Prices Today"
That means, as opposed to the past...that's not hard to understand at all. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine and responded as such. No logic needed. Just simple reading comprehension.
With a thumbs down not to mention many complaining about the high prices wich is kinda expected ::)
Still though I don't see where you have gotten the idea that some would think prices of lose carts were the same like back than when prices were very cheap. I'm pretty sure little samson wich was already rare back than went for a couple of tenners wich was a huge amount for a single game.
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Because YOU said they haven't changed, omg.
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Because YOU said they haven't changed, omg.
Sure Of the past 2 to 3 years they haven't Most 20 40 $ popular good games have stayed more or less the same as far as lose carts go. Also for the more expensive games not much chance there. Only cib seems to go up as far as the past few years go that is.
I thought it would be kinda obvious in a topic like this, guess I was wrong ::)
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To be honest, even at most flea markets SNES most games are more the $10. However you might have better luck at Garage Sales and some flea markets or conventions but usually not so much
(examples of expensive online stores claiming to be the cheapest way to find SNES games)
https://www.dkoldies.com/super-nintendo
https://www.lukiegames.com/snes-super-nintendo-video-games.html
Probally the cheapest online way for Americans to purchase Super Nintendo games for under $10
https://www.jjgames.com/system/snes/all
Heck you can find just about every other system for less especially at flea markets
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To be honest, even at most flea markets SNES most games are more the $10. However you might have better luck at Garage Sales and some flea markets or conventions but usually not so much
(examples of expensive online stores claiming to be the cheapest way to find SNES games)
https://www.dkoldies.com/super-nintendo
https://www.lukiegames.com/snes-super-nintendo-video-games.html
Probally the cheapest online way for Americans to purchase Super Nintendo games for under $10
https://www.jjgames.com/system/snes/all
Heck you can find just about every other system for less especially at flea markets
I'm not saying that no people at all here on the forums go and buy them games at those game stores But there are allot of people who would rather buy at a store since there is more trust than the black market such as ebay etc. Stores can overcharge a bit on games especially the more popular ones but when It's broken one can return it etc you will accept to pay more than market value at a store for these reasons. If it's less popular prices can be the same or under market value this also applies for more expensive items since stores share the same potential buyers like everyone else in that regard. Only on the cheaper games, very popular franchies and consoles can stores overcharge and get away with it. Those rare fighting games etc will fetch just as much in a store as on ebay since the potential buyer is usually not someone who only uses stores not to mention the market is allot smaller than for the cheaper or very mainstream games. Condition will be the most important thing in that scenario not to mention the availability of the item, store benefits will be non existent to most buyers in this category since most people want the best value and don't care about returns especially carts are pretty sturdy very low risk of one being broken And with discs if the condition is excellent same story kinda BS to pay extra for these people. the kind of people in that category are usually more hardcore collectors who just look everywhere to get a certain game since availablility is not always great.
People who don't like to use the black market to much are the bread and butter customers of stores not the people searching through the stores for mispriced stuff or below value etc their losing money when those people are around ;D Most people just buy them for those higher prices even if it's above ebay unless the price is very overpriced or It's something that no one wants. Stores can get premium value so if your looking for good deals stores are not the best spot to look even ebay would be far better especially for mainstream stuff. Oustide mainstream stuff there are most definitely chances even in stores but one should never expect to get the best deals at a store it is a place where the seller could charge and get premium prices not comparable to a flea market at all where one could find bargain deals and buyers expect to go home with the jackpot.
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"Black market"
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Well well the justice police has showed up once again ::)
No I do not mean the criminal market lol.
Sites such as craigslist ebay etc wich i guess are not the black market.
Still though places such as ebay and especially craigslist are pretty shady not everyone is big fan to use them. Allot of people have gotten scammed in such places especially with current gen stuff. It is a black market in some way if you would like my opinion not to mention that some black market activity has taken place on sites such as craigs list.
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Well well the justice police has showed up once again ::)
No I do not mean the criminal market lol.
Sites such as craigslist ebay etc wich i guess are not the black market.
Still though places such as ebay and especially craigslist are pretty shady not everyone is big fan to use them. Allot of people have gotten scammed in such places especially with current gen stuff. It is a black market in some way if you would like my opinion not to mention that some black market activity has taken place on sites such as craigs list.
The correct term is gray market for craigslist that is eBay isn't even that.
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I of course can empathize with the OP. They are at a somewhat unreasonable price. I have noticed them peak, if not come down in the last two years. I've just used it as an opportunity to get ahead of the curb and grab the PSX and N64 games I want before they skyrocket. Just being patient with the SNES for now and only getting games I know I will play soon.
To combat this, I have been getting the Genesis/Mega Drive versions of games when possible. Contrary to SNES, it is hard to find a game for more than $20, at least in my neck of the woods. They are not what I am nostalgic for, but sometimes when I sit down with the games I realize that the genny versions are sometimes better than what I remember on the SNES (Earthworm Jim, for example).
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I of course can empathize with the OP. They are at a somewhat unreasonable price. I have noticed them peak, if not come down in the last two years. I've just used it as an opportunity to get ahead of the curb and grab the PSX and N64 games I want before they skyrocket. Just being patient with the SNES for now and only getting games I know I will play soon.
To combat this, I have been getting the Genesis/Mega Drive versions of games when possible. Contrary to SNES, it is hard to find a game for more than $20, at least in my neck of the woods. They are not what I am nostalgic for, but sometimes when I sit down with the games I realize that the genny versions are sometimes better than what I remember on the SNES (Earthworm Jim, for example).
N64 has gotten quite outrageous too as of late. I'm glad you beat the spike :). I used to always upset myself about the price changes. How a game as common as smash melee can cost 60-70 bucks. But then I tried to find a silver lining and it was hard but here is how I convinced myself.
I kinda see it as a mixed blessing. On one hand the pricing makes it so us collectors get their wallet's beatened everytime we move the wrong way or want something we actually love because resellers want to send their kids to college like thevious manipulating snakes, hipsters buy them all and resell them and all and all the market suffers ridiculous price spikes that hurt everyone other than the sellers. But at the same time it seems other consoles cool down when ones get hot. And our collections value not only in terms of money but trade value increases along with the rates. It makes it so any doubles us collector's already have such as say you have 2 copies of Mario Party or Chrono Trigger. It makes it so we can get other things we want from other platforms easier just because everyone is so quick to buy those games. :D
One way of looking at it anyway :)
It's really depressing though but I guess it comes with the surge of the new comers and just the landscape of collecting things and the more time passes the worst it'll get. I reckon we'll see a day when Smash Melee is a few thousand dollars. It's that bad and the saddest part is some desperate collector would pay it if it were the only means. Resellers can dictate whatever price they want and if every other seller followed suit we'd always pay it. Which is unfair.
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I of course can empathize with the OP. They are at a somewhat unreasonable price. I have noticed them peak, if not come down in the last two years. I've just used it as an opportunity to get ahead of the curb and grab the PSX and N64 games I want before they skyrocket. Just being patient with the SNES for now and only getting games I know I will play soon.
To combat this, I have been getting the Genesis/Mega Drive versions of games when possible. Contrary to SNES, it is hard to find a game for more than $20, at least in my neck of the woods. They are not what I am nostalgic for, but sometimes when I sit down with the games I realize that the genny versions are sometimes better than what I remember on the SNES (Earthworm Jim, for example).
N64 has gotten quite outrageous too as of late. I'm glad you beat the spike :). I used to always upset myself about the price changes. How a game as common as smash melee can cost 60-70 bucks. But then I tried to find a silver lining and it was hard but here is how I convinced myself.
I kinda see it as a mixed blessing. On one hand the pricing makes it so us collectors get their wallet's beatened everytime we move the wrong way or want something we actually love because resellers want to send their kids to college like thevious manipulating snakes, hipsters buy them all and resell them and all and all the market suffers ridiculous price spikes that hurt everyone other than the sellers. But at the same time it seems other consoles cool down when ones get hot. And our collections value not only in terms of money but trade value increases along with the rates. It makes it so any doubles us collector's already have such as say you have 2 copies of Mario Party or Chrono Trigger. It makes it so we can get other things we want from other platforms easier just because everyone is so quick to buy those games. :D
One way of looking at it anyway :)
It's really depressing though but I guess it comes with the surge of the new comers and just the landscape of collecting things and the more time passes the worst it'll get. I reckon we'll see a day when Smash Melee is a few thousand dollars. It's that bad and the saddest part is some desperate collector would pay it if it were the only means. Resellers can dictate whatever price they want and if every other seller followed suit we'd always pay it. Which is unfair.
Pretty much no collectors buy smash bros melee
The people who play this game the tournament scene pay these insane high prices since they really need it and it's pretty big people make a living out of it even some of the lesser players not to mention the fanbase thanks to the hyped tournament scene.
Not to mention with the many mods and talented technical people in that community I'm pretty sure they'l make something custom or even digital after some years to make the game free thus the original not usuable as reliable just as a collectors piece wich will make smash bros melee drop in price. actually they already made a training kit wich does not need the original if i am not mistaken so the original game could also be done that way I figure.
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I, thankfully, have no expectation that my collection be valuable in the future. But it does hurt in the here and now when I see prices of games I would like to play. The Chrono Triggers, FFII, FFIII, Secret of Manas, and Earthbounds are all games I would really like to PLAY on original hardware. I have them all here or there, but not on SNES. I guess it's a shame, but I've waited 30 years to play them, I can wait a bit longer until the "hipsters" lose faith in their inventory and look to liquidate ;)
I also fortunately have quite a few of the heavy hitters from my original purchases. Still have my original SSB Melee! I've not seen the hike in N64, but I believe it. The 20 somethings now likely grew up with it, where it was the last great console before college for me when the consoles got left in my parent's basement.
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I, thankfully, have no expectation that my collection be valuable in the future. But it does hurt in the here and now when I see prices of games I would like to play. The Chrono Triggers, FFII, FFIII, Secret of Manas, and Earthbounds are all games I would really like to PLAY on original hardware. I have them all here or there, but not on SNES. I guess it's a shame, but I've waited 30 years to play them, I can wait a bit longer until the "hipsters" lose faith in their inventory and look to liquidate ;)
I also fortunately have quite a few of the heavy hitters from my original purchases. Still have my original SSB Melee! I've not seen the hike in N64, but I believe it. The 20 somethings now likely grew up with it, where it was the last great console before college for me when the consoles got left in my parent's basement.
Those particular games won't go down in value. Those were expensive before the retro-gaming bug ever hit. I remember seeing used copies of the FF games and Chrono Trigger in Software Etc. (before being bought out by GameStop) for $60-$70 used back in the late 90s.
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Boo... I believe it though. I've also heard on a few occasions copies of Earthbound in discount bins. The other ones were over $80-90 when they launched. those would be like $120 new in our market. Crazy to think of! So, I suppose at $45-60 now for those carts aren't too bad. Yet, somehow a $90 (launch price) N64 cart can be had for less than $20. It's just weird I guess. The price we pay for a sticker, plastic and silicon.
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The price we pay for a sticker, plastic and silicon.
Same can be said for most other collectibles and those are way more overpriced especially for ones who are no fans of that genre
Graded comics art etc those are way worse and out of reach to allot of people.
Still though many of the rare disirable games were never cheap from the very beginning. Path of radiance was never a cheap game I'm pretty sure it was always around or slightly below the brand new value before it sky rocketed in the 100+ range. it was 40 50 many years ago at least the european version that is and that was before the gamecube craze titles like gotcha force was just 20 - 30 $ back than. Panzer dragoon saga was also a pretty expensive game since it was very rare never cheap.
However the chances of people not knowing what they had were obviously higher back than.