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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: oldgamerz on June 01, 2018, 03:31:59 am
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I like to own a game for it's fun factor. a lot of rare game are rare for a reason. And sometimes it is because they stink or where underrated on their release. yet most common games I actually found to be fun including common overlooked sports titles. why pay $100 or more on a rare game when you could have just as much fun on a common game?
Who like common games? I Do :)
If you do see my collection I'll confess I own a bunch of compilations with the rare stuff
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Neither, I buy stuff that I see that is significantly cheaper than it would be online.
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In the past I have bought games purely because of how rare they are and because of the deal I was getting on them, but overall I've always bought games that I had the intention of playing. At the end of the day video games are meant to be played and nearly every game I own I bought because I thought it looked fun and/or interesting. My days of hunting rarity trophies simply for the sake of bragging about how I own X game are over.
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I buy games I want to play. These things are fun. There’s a reason there are a billion copies of SMB3 in the world. It’s really fun.
I’m also a collector. The reason I some of this rare stuff is because I like having uncommon stuff in the ole collection.
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I buy games that I want to play, that are within my comfort range for game prices. I don't worry too much about what those prices are. Over time, as my collection has grown, the price I'll pay for a game has gone up- the logic being 'I can buy 3 games of middling interest for $10 each, or I can buy one game I really want for $30.' (Granted, the number is notably higher than $30 these days, but you get the point.)
I also buy things that I think will add a unique, if not necessarily 'fun' experience to my collection. Especially when it's cheap- I don't spend a lot of time with Babysitting Mama on the Wii, but a dollar for a game you control with a giant plush baby? I definitely don't have anything else like that!
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This seems to be a repeating theme around here, as of late. You guys are basically asking the same question over and over again in different ways. It's just the same old, "Are you a collector or player?" question.
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Because it's rare.
Finding Sly Raccoon out in the wild is wayyy more satisfying than finding say Grand Theft Auto San Andreas despite the latter being a fun and popular title on the system.
The best feeling is when it's rare and also fun and you get it for a bargain, I live for that rush.
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A little bit of both. I have a japanese import of Jojo's bizarre adventure on the PS1 and that's going to be more rare to a degree (im in the US) and so owning that is fun cause it's rare, but it is pretty fun with friends.
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This seems to be a repeating theme around here, as of late. You guys are basically asking the same question over and over again in different ways. It's just the same old, "Are you a collector or player?" question.
I guess yeah. What suggestions would you recommend for discussion?
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Because it's rare.
Finding Sly Raccoon out in the wild is wayyy more satisfying than finding say Grand Theft Auto San Andreas despite the latter being a fun and popular title on the system.
The best feeling is when it's rare and also fun and you get it for a bargain, I live for that rush.
If you mean Sly Cooper it isn't a rare PS2 game it got a greatest hits release.
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Because I know the game is fun, to find the fun in the unknown, and simple curiosity.
Journey Escape. The concept is absurd, the story of its development even more so. In the 80s I had no interest in Journey, now I get a kick out of hearing "Don't Stop Believin'" as I navigate my character through throngs of kissy lips, flashbulbs, etc... with the help of the Kool-Aid Man.... err... "your manager" in a quest to get each of the members of the band to the Scarab. I would never have experienced this kind of absurdity without collecting.
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Both. Also if something is objectively terrible to play with friends and laugh. Like I literally bought a copy of The Bee Movie Video Game for that reason XD
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For me its a bit of both i buy a game to play for the fun factor. I might take a chance on a game I've never even heard of just because its cheep enough. Also if i find a rare game for cheap I'll buy it for the collection. As long as I don't already own one
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Because it's rare.
Finding Sly Raccoon out in the wild is wayyy more satisfying than finding say Grand Theft Auto San Andreas despite the latter being a fun and popular title on the system.
The best feeling is when it's rare and also fun and you get it for a bargain, I live for that rush.
If you mean Sly Cooper it isn't a rare PS2 game it got a greatest hits release.
I don't, I mean the PAL game Sly Raccoon https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=711719431329
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51REP1B8S4L._SY445_.jpg)
Also, lol greatest hits editions
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More often than not I buy solely for fun factor. I honestly don't have too many games worth much; some that are sought after, but still sub $100.
When out in the wild I more or less buy for fun factor. Will I enjoy this? Can I play it with friends? So on...
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Also, lol greatest hits editions
Whats wrong with greatest hits? I never understood why people scoff at greatest hits/platinum hits/players choice/nintendo select versions... Like I understand wanting to collect the originals, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with these other versions... they are the same exact game. For me its a chance to grab a great game at a potentially lower price. So I guess keep laughing at them so I can keep buying cheaper games!
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I buy something because I want to play it.
Also, lol greatest hits editions
Whats wrong with greatest hits? I never understood why people scoff at greatest hits/platinum hits/players choice/nintendo select versions... Like I understand wanting to collect the originals, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with these other versions... they are the same exact game. For me its a chance to grab a great game at a potentially lower price. So I guess keep laughing at them so I can keep buying cheaper games!
Personally, I think the bright reds, yellows and greens look out place and weird randomly dispersed amongst the regular colors. I don't like how it looks. I feel the same about steel book editions.
That said, I won't "scoff" at them. I just spend a few extra bucks for the OG version and let someone else enjoy the GH version. Both parties end up happy.
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Also, lol greatest hits editions
Whats wrong with greatest hits? I never understood why people scoff at greatest hits/platinum hits/players choice/nintendo select versions... Like I understand wanting to collect the originals, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with these other versions... they are the same exact game. For me its a chance to grab a great game at a potentially lower price. So I guess keep laughing at them so I can keep buying cheaper games!
Man don't even get me started.
It's no different than any collector's item. Some people want the black label because it's the original. Why would anyone want an original Babe Ruth baseball card when they can just buy a reprint? Why would anyone spend 3 million dollars on the Action Comics that Superman first appeared in when they can just buy a reprint?
Heck, why not just emulate everything it's the exact same games right.
Why don't we just read the manuals as PDFs on our computer instead of getting originals.
Originals, first pressings, first editions etc. etc. are inherently better thought of in all kinds of collector markets. It's just the way it is.
You can buy greatest hits editions for less? You can probably get a reprint of a Picasso painting for less too, it's still not as cool as his original painting.
The hits/choice editions are gross non-uniform stylings and colours, not to mention.
Buying the original release is like buying a first edition book. It's older man it's just better. Most "Greatest Hits" covers have ugly colours and big banners obscuring the artwork so the originals are aesthetically better. Collectors who store games on shelves usually want their games to be uniform in colour and design, and most "Greatest Hits" releases have different designs that clash with the others.
Some greatest hits versions have black and white instead of colour manuals to save money later in a console lifespan.
Some original releases have extras not found in greatest hits versions.
Having the first run black label is sort of like having the first run of a comic. Yeah the content is the same on a reprint or greatest hits but man you know that shiz is not legit.
Greatest hits editions are just really gross looking. Greatest hits type releases usually mess with the cover, minimising the size of the cover art, and add terrible colours that clash with original release colours and are just in and of themselves gaudy.
Isn't it blatantly obvious why originals are vastly superior?
In Europe, the discs of Platinum (on both PS1 and PS2) are just plain silver discs with black printing of the name and console. No art on the disc. A platinum copy of a PS2 game has an awful silver border all around the cover art and crap.
Man I don't want to talk about this anymore, it upsets me just to think about.
It's like collecting 2nd printings of a comic book, it's like filling your shelf with inferior products, it's like sticking a bright green object among a pile of black objects - it's madness I say, madness!
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Man don't even get me started.
I think you missed my point, Like I said I totally get why people collect originals vs greatest hits... I just dont understand why people talk crap about greatest hits.
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Man don't even get me started.
I think you missed my point, Like I said I totally get why people collect originals vs greatest hits... I just dont understand why people talk crap about greatest hits.
Because they are ugly af and basically second prints in what is a collectors hobby. I did take the time to explain this above.
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Just because you don't like the color of a cover, or the fact that something is a second printing, doesn't make it inferior... Its the same exact game. By all means you can collect how ever you want, I just don't think there is any reason to knock these variants.
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For the record I don't not pick up greatest hits and whatnot I just upgrade it when I find a non greatest hits copy. Also there are people who specifically seek out variants subsets. And second prints usually don't go for as much money but they are not worthless. Often times greatest hits are less common than the non greatest hits titles and some even go for more money like the player's choice Mario World for example.
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Just because you don't like the color of a cover, or the fact that something is a second printing, doesn't make it inferior... Its the same exact game. By all means you can collect how ever you want, I just don't think there is any reason to knock these variants.
nobody is knocking these platinum greatest hit variants.
Many people appreciate the lower costs and the same or in very rare cases less glicthed gameplay.
Simple fact is compared to the original release the cover art has an ugly boarder instead of the full cover art or more neutral coloured black border fitting the box a bit nicer
Nobody is knocking these variants but if people had a choice they'd rather have a first edition full cover art or black lable variant wich also looks a bit better on the shelves.
Some people go as far as not including an platinum greatest hit release in their collection period wich seems logical since otherwise you would need to spend money twice before getting a black label one or buy a greatest hits as a placeholder before selling it off for a black lable or full cover art first edition.
The only reason why people prefer a black label full cover first edition version is because the box just looks slightly and sometimes a whole lot better.
Besides the people wanting them games only for gameplay are usually the ones appreciating platinum releases since they are cheaper to get it's mostly collectors hence the importance of a better looking box that would rather not have a platinum greatest hits release.
Personally I will say that greatest hits or platinum variant are pretty bad looking in comparison but gameplay wise they are the same
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And more often then not Greatest Hits releases will fix glitches or even add new content.
Silent Hill 2 is more expensive/sought after as a GH release than black label, for example.
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I only buy things I would like to play, unfortunately sometimes said thing is rare :/
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I only buy games I find fun or want to play. I understand the appeal to own games that are rare just for the sake of them being rare regardless of how good or bad they are, but I can never get behind that mentality myself. If games I like are common and cheap, all the better for me!
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I use to in the past, when you could actually find stuff out at retail stores. I had a group of friends that I could trade with. We all lived/worked in different cities. Lately just been buying stuff to play.
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Just because you don't like the color of a cover, or the fact that something is a second printing, doesn't make it inferior... Its the same exact game. By all means you can collect how ever you want, I just don't think there is any reason to knock these variants.
It's physical objects, being collected, by fans of a primarily visual media. 'Being ugly' is a pretty big problem. You'll note not many are bothered by the variants considered to be ascetically inoffensive- your platinum hits, your Nintendo selects, etc.
I think there may also be a tiny bit of gamer cred at stake... after all, you don't get a greatest hits release unless you were, in fact, a great hit. Meaning everyone played the game ages ago. A greatest hits version on your shelf clearly reads "I did not play this when it was new"... which implies "I'm not gamer enough to have known it was good." A very tiny and pointless thing, really- but if people can have dick-waving contests over shit like PC vs. Console and 'my genre is better than your genre', why not throw 'I was here first' onto the pile?
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Just because you don't like the color of a cover, or the fact that something is a second printing, doesn't make it inferior... Its the same exact game. By all means you can collect how ever you want, I just don't think there is any reason to knock these variants.
It's physical objects, being collected, by fans of a primarily visual media. 'Being ugly' is a pretty big problem. You'll note not many are bothered by the variants considered to be ascetically inoffensive- your platinum hits, your Nintendo selects, etc.
I think there may also be a tiny bit of gamer cred at stake... after all, you don't get a greatest hits release unless you were, in fact, a great hit. Meaning everyone played the game ages ago. A greatest hits version on your shelf clearly reads "I did not play this when it was new"... which implies "I'm not gamer enough to have known it was good." A very tiny and pointless thing, really- but if people can have dick-waving contests over shit like PC vs. Console and 'my genre is better than your genre', why not throw 'I was here first' onto the pile?
I like getting the non-greatest hits versions. It’s like getting a first print of a record or comic. I just like them better
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I cosign all the GH points. I have been for the most part trying to replace what I can in terms of what I have GH with non-GH because I personally like the black label better on the PS2 as well as the PS1 vs. the green labels. Same goes with the solid red PS3 covers vs. the black label and transparent PS3 covers. As it stands, I have a few left on my PS2 collection.
To answer the question, I say I now lean towards fun factor. I used to be of the mindset of such and such is rare so I must have it even though chances are I wont play it for sometime. The mindset now is if I want this then it better be played sooner than later.
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Also, lol greatest hits editions
Whats wrong with greatest hits? I never understood why people scoff at greatest hits/platinum hits/players choice/nintendo select versions... Like I understand wanting to collect the originals, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with these other versions... they are the same exact game. For me its a chance to grab a great game at a potentially lower price. So I guess keep laughing at them so I can keep buying cheaper games!
I agree with justin8301 Like I think someone else already mentioned that Greatest Hits or Selects copies can also be an updated version. They can always be displayed next to one another on a shelf. But that depends on whether or not you sort your entire collection alphabetically or not. I don't care if something is a second print, or not. But thats me personally. At least it's a video game, and chances are it is a real release, from a real company. Just like the original prints.
If you consider a re-release of the same game. But on a newer console it is the same thing over again only it's for a different console.
just a note
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Exactly this. Dust collecting shelf props aren’t my thing. I’m in it for the fun factor and/or to play as many different RPGs as I can (I keep a list of the ones I beat).
I buy games that I want to play, that are within my comfort range for game prices. I don't worry too much about what those prices are. Over time, as my collection has grown, the price I'll pay for a game has gone up- the logic being 'I can buy 3 games of middling interest for $10 each, or I can buy one game I really want for $30.' (Granted, the number is notably higher than $30 these days, but you get the point.)
I also buy things that I think will add a unique, if not necessarily 'fun' experience to my collection. Especially when it's cheap- I don't spend a lot of time with Babysitting Mama on the Wii, but a dollar for a game you control with a giant plush baby? I definitely don't have anything else like that!
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It's usually both due to my tastes. Growing up with the Spectrum, Gameboy and some late 80s/early 90s PC games, alongside the Wonderboy series and Streets of Rage 2 (major influences), I'm drawn to games with RPG mechanics and home computer/console arcade/action games as well as anything a bit different. Take platformers - re-releases aside, games like Crash and Spyro on the PS1 are 'collectible' (which seems to be a euphemism for 'worth a bit' to most people) despite not being rare at all. Genres like survival horror tend to have limited copies produced, so again are 'rare' and 'collectible' despite being the games I actually want to play.
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The fun factor of finding stuff in the wild (garage sales, thrift stores, the dumpster) for mere pennies is a lot more fun than spending a lot of money for rare stuff. You appreciate it more when you find rare stuff for pennies. Yeah a lot of times the games might not be the best ones, but who wants to shell out retail or ebay prices for games?
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I buy games that look like they interestimg to pay, also will hunt down rare games if i look them up and want to own just in case.
Not to worry that you wont find the copy of the game later on or having some crazy price tag for no reason.
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People who buy games only for their rarity to hoard money are a true negative on the hobby. They typically are only into games for amassing treasure to unload on some poor sap down the road at inflated price. I don't see the point. I think games are made to be fun and enjoyed. :)