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Title: Opinions on paying for online play?
Post by: kypherion on June 04, 2018, 02:31:30 pm
Personally I'm not a fan, I'm used to free online with PC gaming and paying $60 for a year of online seems silly.
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Post by: oldgamerz on June 04, 2018, 03:53:37 pm
I think it stinks
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Post by: badATchaos on June 04, 2018, 04:01:12 pm
To me it would only make sense if it went toward hosting game servers. In reality it doesn't. It's up to the game studios / publishers to host their own game servers, or develope a peer to peer hosting system.  Subscriptions pay for download hosting and backend stuff. It's expensive to get that infrastructure built, but otherwise.... it's kind of a rip off.
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Post by: seether on June 04, 2018, 04:17:00 pm
I refuse to pay for xbox live gold or PS+ just on principle, unless they sell it to me at £1 promotional price and the 'free' games happen to be good that month.

Do my multiplayer gaming on PC.
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Post by: 98dgreen on June 04, 2018, 04:42:23 pm
Nope
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Post by: hexen on June 04, 2018, 04:51:51 pm
It's complete bunk... more profit squeezing from an increasingly awful industry. I do almost all online stuff on PC anyway.

I'm upset Nintendo is finally jumping on this awful bandwagon, but at least their pricing is less than Sony & Microsoft. It's super annoying to have to pay to access features on games like Smash... I haven't gone online with Playstation since Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale which at the time was at least free, don't know if stuff like that still is.
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Post by: Agozer on June 04, 2018, 04:56:08 pm
I refuse to pay for xbox live gold or PS+ just on principle
This.

The only time I bough a very short PS Plus subscription was when my profile on my PS3 got borked and I had to quickly back up my saves (including copy-protected ones).
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Post by: chrismb on June 04, 2018, 05:08:56 pm
I would obviously prefer not to pay but I'm lowkey always excited to see what the next "free" games are gonna be lol.
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Post by: emporerdragon on June 04, 2018, 08:03:00 pm
I have no problem with paying for Xbox live. It's cheap enough, has a solid infrastructure, and the kickbacks of free games and exclusive sales more than compensate for the cost.

And while it may sound odd to some, having the paywall there does a great deal in preventing exposure to cheaters and hackers, as people aren't as quick to abuse the system when it has direct consequences to their pocketbooks.
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Post by: bikingjahuty on June 04, 2018, 11:30:56 pm
I have never been a fan for a variety of reason.
1) You already bought the game and now you have to continue to pay for it: I know this isn't entirely true now with many MMOs and other only focused games having free to play options, but growing up you still had to buy the game full price then throw down $10 to $25 a month + the cost of internet to continue playing. I always felt this to be a huge ripoff and I still do mostly.
2) I don't like online multiplayer: I don't really like interacting with people normally, but interacting with others via a game is arguably worse. Probably because each player gets to hide behind a character they're playing, the worst parts of who they are that they keep hidden in real life come out for all to experience. Because of this I find dealing with people's mental illness, bigotry, egos, and insecurities even more annoying while playing a game than I do in real life.

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Post by: droaa on June 05, 2018, 01:01:12 am
Had it not been for the amount of people I have met over the years because of my time on PSN then I would be paying for PS+ but in this case, as long as I can get a good discount over Black Friday then paying for year of the service is find to me.
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Post by: sworddude on June 05, 2018, 09:41:08 am
Not really a rip off earnings of just game sales are not enough anymore for most companies so for allot of games it's a must besides the costs aren't to much of a problem for the people that enjoy such games and actually play it allot.

There are free to play games that only ask for payment for visual clothing etc for their earnings wich in some times earns them a hell lot of dough wich might be a rip off to some. While I'm not a fan of paying for online play I do see why companies do so and it will probably only increase in the future.
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Post by: tripredacus on June 05, 2018, 10:00:48 am
Would never do it. Actually refused to do so when I was heavily recruited to play WoW, at the time I was playing Diablo II. I have played a free month of games for paid MMOs such as Everquest and Dark Age of Camelot.
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Post by: shfan on June 05, 2018, 11:29:23 am
Wouldn't take it for free.
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Post by: rayne315 on June 05, 2018, 11:42:26 am
wow so much negativity to paying for online...

im perfectly fine with paying for it because they offer perks for doing so. I get every single PS+ free game that releases and just for that alone I feel like I get my moneys worth. I don't have many vita games but throughout the years I have accumulated ~200 vita games through ps+ so I always will have something to play on that (vita games are incredibly rare in my area most shops only have 10-20 total). on top of that since ps+ became required for online play the whole of PS's network has become significantly better and more reliable. back in ps3 it seemed like the servers went down for one reason or another every other week.

ive never bought games online with it but it seems like there are always great discounts going on. if I was not a physical collector I would have very easily saved more than the price of the service every year just in game purchase discounts.

it does suck that now it is required but I always had it to begin with.

but yes i would never pay for anything like WOW where you have to buy the game and then pay monthly subscription fees to continue to play it.
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Post by: cirno on June 07, 2018, 02:52:02 am
I really, really miss when this was just a dumb Xbox thing it was ridiculed for, and not something that became the norm.
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Post by: kashell on June 08, 2018, 03:54:12 pm
I loathe it.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 08, 2018, 04:06:03 pm
It's a rip-off. You've already paid for the console. You've already paid for the game. And you already pay for internet service.

So what exactly are you paying for? Everyone already got a piece of the pie from you.

You don't pay to play games online on PC. You don't pay to access Facebook.
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Post by: oldgamerz on June 08, 2018, 08:03:24 pm
It's a rip-off. You've already paid for the console. You've already paid for the game. And you already pay for internet service.

So what exactly are you paying for? Everyone already got a piece of the pie from you.

You don't pay to play games online on PC. You don't pay to access Facebook.

Perfectly said not to mention some Internet Service Providers limit your data usage and it cost a lot of data even to watch Youtube videos.

 I would check on your data cap if I were anyone. Some companies will charge you more money on your bill should you use the internet excessive for streaming, or videos or music or even video games especially playing video games
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Post by: sworddude on June 08, 2018, 08:27:39 pm
It's a rip-off. You've already paid for the console. You've already paid for the game. And you already pay for internet service.

So what exactly are you paying for? Everyone already got a piece of the pie from you.

You don't pay to play games online on PC. You don't pay to access Facebook.

while facebook seems free facebook has all time acces to your personal details messages who you call what you buy where you are at specific times your time scedules when you visit certain places etc.

Not to mention that they also sell this info to marketing people of bigger companies who can use this to increase sales and lure more people in. It's the main way why facebook makes money and this was unknown to many for many years.

If you use it allot even when facebook isn't active it will still collect your data. Pretty scary that facebook is some kind of spy app following your entire life.

Free online games still feed you with adds or potential skins/ pay to win so It's not totally free still way less extreme than facebook.


Still though why many complain that games such as WOW have monthly payments the servers are always active and they always have many updates, for people who play WOW it is worth it not to mention that they do not play much else. It's pretty hard to say that monthly payments for online games is a bad thing when you've never really done so.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 08, 2018, 08:55:11 pm
How would you know if I have not?

Of course I have. I'm an XBox owner.
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Post by: sworddude on June 08, 2018, 09:00:03 pm
How would you know if I have not?

Of course I have. I'm an XBox owner.

let me rephrase that

What I meant is that people especially  complain about 1 game only such as WOW with their monthly payments while I'm pretty sure most have not even experienced it. There is a reason why many people still decide to pay those monthly fees for a single game.

Xbox or playstation give free games etc way cheaper it seems more in comparison however most have not even played such mmorpg's and actually paid the monthly fees to actually get acces to the full game.

Still though even for online play with playstation or xbox keeping servers up costs money so It's not to bad else they would be eating their profits or decline support allot sooner.
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Post by: cirno on June 09, 2018, 03:59:11 pm
Nah, that's a false narrative companies would like you to believe-that they NEED to implement these paywalls. I know running a server costs money but these are rich folks and to them, money is no object. They look at this stuff and think "Eh I dunoooo" because they aren't satisified until they can make as much money as humanely possible.

I mean, really-the PS3 had it free, and the Nintendo switch has had it free for it's first year because of nintendo dragging their feet. Do you really think the baffling, incompetent, overly generous move to allow customers to use a basic feature of their console without an extra payment has just TOTALLY run their company dry?

Also, yes I don't play mmorpgs like that, but why would I? I don't buy trials for games, if it's 60$+ I want it for good.
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Post by: kevininja on June 10, 2018, 03:46:02 am
I don't have PS+ and I don't intend to ever buy it.
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Post by: betelgeuse on July 11, 2018, 01:23:22 pm
I think the MMO games should be free if it’s a monthly charge to play. They definitely got my cash on FFXI. Pretty sure I payed close to 10 years of service. I bought the PS2 bundle, then bought all the 360 versions and xpansions to get the achievements. Also payed for a couple mule characters for my extra items etc. Probably cost me around $2000 total.

I always get the Xbox live when it goes on sale ($35-$40 a year).
When the Xbox one and PS4 went the pc route of having to install games to play, I use to open and install them as soon as possible to have them ready to go at any givin time. They give out those free games every month now and I’m coming across a lot of games I still haven’t played, but already installed.
Now I find myself leaving my games sealed again until I’m ready to play. A lot of times getting the free download before I even open my physical copy.
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Post by: baileykun on August 07, 2018, 11:46:49 am
I honestly hope Nintendo uses the money to improve the infrastructure of their games because I adore Splatoon 2, but man does it run like garbage to this day with lots of disconnecting players, needing hacker detection, and lag. Such lag. Not lag on me, just sometimes I encounter very laggy matches if the host is laggy.