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Title: What Do You Think Is The Reason Why Most Sports Games Are Frowned Upon?
Post by: oldgamerz on March 20, 2019, 05:41:05 am
I know there is a bunch of sports video game related threads now, and not everyone frowns upon them. Or else companies would not make them still. But why do you think is the reason why it seems most people prefer other genres than the sports games.

Is it because most of them are too difficult to win at or play? because a lot of them are vary difficult. Maybe a lot of people already played sports games till they got sick of them? I enjoy them but sometimes I do get frustrated with some of them because after all most sports game are quite difficult.

this may sound crazy but does anyone have a complete set?  for example, I think I got every single EA Sports Golf Game from the first one (1990) for Sega Genesis till all the way till the Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2013 games on PlayStation 1,2 & 3
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Post by: hoshichiri on March 20, 2019, 09:49:53 am
I think it's a simple case of volume- a new sports title releases annually to cover roster changes, but there's very little difference in graphics/mechanics. For those who aren't already invested in sports titles, it seems like a terrible waste to spend $60 on a new game with a DLC pack's worth of new content- not to mention a great way to fragment the online player base.

Most other long-running titles switch things up enough between games to avoid this issue, but you can find ones that don't really do much, & get the same flak. Dynasty Warriors comes immediately to mind.
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Post by: baileykun on March 20, 2019, 01:10:38 pm
I'm going to second that, but add my 2 cents. The sheer volume is overwhelming and can get frustrating in some shops where most of the games on shelf are just old sports titles and almost nothing else. It feels so demoralizing if you're looking for anything else. Also yeah, in this day and age just update your game. Don't make a new one each year.
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Post by: emporerdragon on March 20, 2019, 03:45:17 pm
not to mention a great way to fragment the online player base

That's why they also shut down the servers and support for the older titles,  so the people that enjoy multiplayer are basically forced to get the latest version.
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Post by: sworddude on March 20, 2019, 07:29:25 pm
not to mention a great way to fragment the online player base

That's why they also shut down the servers and support for the older titles,  so the people that enjoy multiplayer are basically forced to get the latest version.

forced is a big word to be honest

Let's talk about fifa for example if a new example comes out the main stream public is all over the newest release. Last year game is trash I have seen that to many times, there is a reason why sports games devalue to pretty much nothing from 60 to 3$ in bins in if the next yearly release comes out. If the mainstream public was different I think supports would have been a bit longer aside that such games have support for at least a few years wich is plenty since most people have moved on if a new release has come especially after just a few years.
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Post by: pzeke on March 20, 2019, 09:06:43 pm
Pretty much what hoshichiri and baileykun said. There are too many of these suckers around. The only use I've ever found for them was hoarding their cases for replacement purposes - I actually bought at least two wholesale lots of some PS2 football games for dirt cheap on eBay years ago just for the cases. The rest was trashed.

Personally, I've never been able to get into sports games; and by that meaning basketball, baseball, football, and such. The only sports I've ever liked and have been involved with in real life are bowling and wrestling, but that still wasn't enough for me to like their virtual ilk. Granted, I was sort of addicted to Wii bowling back in the day, but I guess most everyone was at the time.
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Post by: bikingjahuty on March 21, 2019, 09:31:45 am
They are essentially throw away games. They are sought after and bought the year they get released, and maybe the year after, bt essentially after that no one wants them because their roster is out dated. While there are minor changes to gameplay from year to year, with major changes every 4 or 5 years, people are buying the games for the roster updates and little more. As a result these things are everywhere and you literally cannot give them away; I game store I used to go to sold titles over 3-years olf for 50-cents and still couldn't move them.


As a collector it is annoying to come across them all the time.
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Post by: telly on March 21, 2019, 09:38:34 am
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(
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Post by: pzeke on March 21, 2019, 09:50:05 am
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(

I like those types of games, they have an arcade feel to them. While yes, they are sports games, they are tolerable. I used to have the first four THPS games and enjoyed them, and I loved NBA Jam back in the day. I dabble with racing games, and think snowboarding games like SSX are good. Standard sports games is what I particularly don't care a smidgen for.
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Post by: oldgamerz on March 21, 2019, 11:27:26 am
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(

I like those types of games, they have an arcade feel to them. While yes, they are sports games, they are tolerable. I used to have the first four THPS games and enjoyed them, and I loved NBA Jam back in the day. I dabble with racing games, and think snowboarding games like SSX are good. Standard sports games is what I particularly don't care a smidgen for.


I gotta admit I don't really see much appeal in modern sports video games but. I do enjoy going back and playing the outdated rosters of a lot of 5th and 6th generation sports video game games, my favorite retro sports games are Extreme, Basketball and Ice Hockey at the moment. However I do not know how to play any Madden football video games since I don't know any american football strategy.
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Post by: 98dgreen on March 21, 2019, 01:42:43 pm
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(
NBA Street is my favorite sports games and in my top 20 for that generation.
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Post by: Warmsignal on March 21, 2019, 02:05:26 pm
They're kind of like games that are based off of licensed movie IPs, they're made to appeal to a particular demographic, in this case fans of professional sports and they are essentially sports simulations. Each year, there are several released based on the very same sport. Like 3 football games, 5 basketball games, 4 baseball games, etc, and they're all very much alike in their game-play. They were made for fans of a particular league of sporting events. Most gamers don't really buy them, so they start to pile up and become really worthless over the years.

I actually do like sports games, but I like arcade style or casual sports games that are more consistent with the principles of action based game-play than actual sports. For example, NBA Jam, 1080 Snowboarding, Wii Sports, or Punch-Out!

Collectors get tired of seeing these licensed sporting games pile up in place of the kind of games they actually want to find. Everyone knows the frustration of hoping for that next gem, and coming across a picture of John Madden's stupid face.
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Post by: oldgamerz on March 22, 2019, 04:05:32 am

Collectors get tired of seeing these licensed sporting games pile up in place of the kind of games they actually want to find. Everyone knows the frustration of hoping for that next gem, and coming across a picture of John Madden's stupid face.

The thing I really don't like about any Madden game is needing to memorize the real life coaching strategy just to win.  If, you do not know american football in both playing and coaching. You probably won't be good at any EA Sports Madden game.

But if you ever saw my collection it's not a lie. That I have a whole lot of Madden Football games but have no idea how to play them properly
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Post by: soera on March 22, 2019, 08:33:39 am
Also yeah, in this day and age just update your game. Don't make a new one each year.

I dont think I could add anymore to this thread than just quoting this. Exactly how I feel.
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Post by: undertakerprime on March 22, 2019, 08:40:24 am
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(

I like those types of games, they have an arcade feel to them. While yes, they are sports games, they are tolerable. I used to have the first four THPS games and enjoyed them, and I loved NBA Jam back in the day. I dabble with racing games, and think snowboarding games like SSX are good. Standard sports games is what I particularly don't care a smidgen for.
Arcade-style sports games have aged much better than the more “realistic” sports games. I love NBA Jam, NBA Hangtime, Super Baseball 2020, Baseball Stars, and SSX Tricky (SSX 3 got TOO realistic and made me lose interest in the franchise...but I digress...).

The problem with the realistic sports games is, not only are there mere incremental improvements from year to year, but all those improvements add up to make it a much more realistic experience, rendering the versions from years ago obsolete in more ways than just the roster.

I’ve never been a fan of actually playing realistic-style sports games, but I do enjoy team management. I had a blast with All-Star Baseball 2004, where I would simulate games and make roster adjustments. Albert Pujols made a name for himself playing for my Austin Outlaws before becoming a superstar in real life :D
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Post by: zenimus on March 22, 2019, 01:18:11 pm
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(

I think this is a big part of it. Game companies usually focus way too much on making sports games too realistic. The focus is usually to create an overly complicated "experience" for the user, rather than simply making a fun game.

Consider this: What are some of the sports games that everyone remembers fondly? Tecmo Bowl and NBA Jam. Both found the perfect mix of "realism" by having real-life rosters, but also focusing solely on what makes basketball and football fun. Both sports fans and everyday gamers can enjoy them.

I want more crazy sports games like Mutant League Hockey, Pigskin 621 A.D., or Super Baseball 2020 (an excellent game that shows how baseball will be next year!).
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Post by: zenimus on March 22, 2019, 01:30:13 pm
Edit: double post...
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Post by: zenimus on March 22, 2019, 01:30:39 pm
Triple post? Geez, I gotta stop trying to use this site on my phone. Three strikes, I'm out...
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Post by: pzeke on March 22, 2019, 02:01:36 pm
Lol! Wasn't that serendipitous.
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Post by: chrismb on March 23, 2019, 03:25:31 am
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(

I think this is a big part of it. Game companies usually focus way too much on making sports games too realistic. The focus is usually to create an overly complicated "experience" for the user, rather than simply making a fun game.




As a huge basketball fan I have to disagree with this. I love to play games like NBA Street but at the same time, it would get boring if I could only play arcade type basketball game.
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Post by: oldgamerz on April 11, 2019, 10:47:47 pm
I feel like the more silly sports games have fallen by the wayside too. NBA Jam, NFL/NBA street, and all the great xtreme sports games like SSX and Tony Hawk  :'(
I think this is a big part of it. Game companies usually focus way too much on making sports games too realistic. The focus is usually to create an overly complicated "experience" for the user, rather than simply making a fun game.\

as an example of what was said by @zenimus is part of this post

late 5th and 6th generation hockey video games can be a blast to play in my opinion, however EA's hockey games fell apart in the 7th console generation with a game like either NHL 10  were the game required a skill in realistic hockey stick mechanic that you had to master just to score, and many people hated one of the those games because of it. realism can make any game more difficult then it needs to be. like in NHL 10. for PS3 or Xbox360.


As a huge basketball fan I have to disagree with this. I love to play games like NBA Street but at the same time, it would get boring if I could only play arcade type basketball game.

 I like rules on basketball myself, but I also play arcade too, but most time I will play an NBA or NCAA game on simulation mode

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Post by: oldgamerz on December 30, 2019, 07:29:08 pm
Bumped 12/30/2019

What does anyone think about sports games that have different teams from other leagues than the normal NFL, NHL, FIFA, NBA, MLB leagues.

I love most of the sports games I've played. I especially enjoy the EA sports games that came out in the mid 6th console generation like the NHL licensed games that included leagues different from the regular professional type of leagues like the NCAA Basketball games and the AHL, hockey leagues.

And lets not forget the sports games that let us create a custom teams or basically our own league like the NHL 2004 NHL 2005 NHL 2006 and so on for the PlayStation 2 console  did
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Post by: wartoy on December 30, 2019, 09:53:50 pm
I used to play sports games all the time thay were some of my favorites. Atari 2600 sports games were some of the better games on the system.(I know im old) Nes had Tecmo bowl,wrestling,track and field ect. Genesis had Joe Montana sports talk football,Buster Douglas boxing and too many others to list. But the last real sports game I've played was 2002 fifa scoccer (excellent game btw.) on Gamecube. I feel with better game design and graphics that you have more options at your disposal than ever before,now I love fighters,first person shooters,racing games,adventure,rpg,strategy and many more excellent genres that sports take a backseat to everything else.
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Post by: oldgamerz on December 21, 2020, 04:04:46 am
Most EA Sports games in the 5th and 6th console generation. those sports games have a lot of features nobody seems talk or know about today.

Games like NHL 2004 05 06 07 & 08 have more then just world professional teams to choose from, NHL 2004 was the vary first EA Sports brand hockey game to offer the ability to create your own team from scratch, that feature had the following options for custom teams

1:  Choose a team uniform
2: Choose a team logo
3: Choose a teams home town from a list of real life cities
4: Customize how the entire hockey arena looks inside
6: Customize a home team fan taunt
7: Choose a goal horn or noise when your team scores at their home arena
8: Create custom players
10: Take control of your entre team and all the staff in Dynasty Mode
11: customize your name and personality as team GM
12: Play through a 10 year season according to the manual
13: choose from 4 different European leagues plus international teams as well as the traditional NHL teams with all players from all teams from that time period
14: also you can change the uniforms of your team and the one your playing against into their old jerseys
15: you can basically do anything you want, including hire and fire players by giving them contacts, some guys will want more money than others will.

NHL 06 has some of those features taken away but they added some additional options and in NHL 2008 for the PlayStation 2 you can even play as the minior league called the AHL American Hockey League..