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Title: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on May 09, 2019, 12:26:00 pm
Creating a new topic for this. Original topic here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,6808.0.html

Information about Categories
There are parent and child categories. A visual reference to this can be seen on the Browse page:
https://vgcollect.com/browse

Each child category has two names:
1. The full name
2. The abbreviated name (this is the name that appears on the item entry page itself)

Database Admins can create new (parent) categories and child/sub-categories. Only Site Admins can rename or delete them.

Categories created from the previous thread:
NOTE: empty categories will show a Page Not Found error.
Added Wii [BR ]
https://vgcollect.com/browse/wiibr
Added Sega Advanced Pico Beena [JP]
https://vgcollect.com/browse/picobeenajp
Added APF MP1000
https://vgcollect.com/browse/apfmp1000
Added APF MP1000 Hardware
https://vgcollect.com/browse/apfmp1000hw
Added Nintendo Switch [KR]
https://vgcollect.com/browse/switchkr
Added Starlink
https://vgcollect.com/browse/starlink

Rename/Move/Remove actions still required:
rename Apple cat to Apple Computers.
create Apple Macintosh [EU] sub-cat in Apple Computers cat *
create Apple Macintosh [JP] sub-cat in Apple Computers cat *
create Apple Macintosh [NA] sub-cat in Apple Computers cat *

*after creation of these, items in existing Mac sub-cats will be moved into the appropriate new sections.

Feel free to post any new Category/Platform requests here.
Be sure to check the old thread in case you made a request that was missed!
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: aliensstudios on May 09, 2019, 10:38:40 pm
Could we get regions for amiibo figures and cards?

Amiibo Figures [NA]
Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]

Amiibo Cards [NA]
Amiibo Cards [EU]
Amiibo Cards [JP]

I promise if these are added, I'll go through the existing amiibo to make sure they are all categorized properly.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: telly on May 10, 2019, 08:36:05 am
Plus one for that ^
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on May 10, 2019, 09:46:46 am
Created Virtual Reality Category with
- Dedicated VR Hardware sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvrhw
- Dedicated VR Accessories sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvraccessory
- Dedicated VR Games sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvrgames

Could we get regions for amiibo figures and cards?

Amiibo Figures [NA]
Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]

Amiibo Cards [NA]
Amiibo Cards [EU]
Amiibo Cards [JP]

I promise if these are added, I'll go through the existing amiibo to make sure they are all categorized properly.

I didn't skip over this one per se... but I should have mentioned it.

Since we can't rename categories, and there already exists Amiibo Figures and Amiibo Cards, I think that this work should be done by a site admin. Either way, they would have to do something, as it would be like so:

Amiibo Figures
Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]

If that is fine with you, we can do that, and then just put in the list in the first post that the [NA] needs to be added to the first one.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: aliensstudios on May 10, 2019, 03:42:54 pm
Created Virtual Reality Category with
- Dedicated VR Hardware sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvrhw
- Dedicated VR Accessories sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvraccessory
- Dedicated VR Games sub-category: https://vgcollect.com/browse/dedvrgames

Could we get regions for amiibo figures and cards?

Amiibo Figures [NA]
Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]

Amiibo Cards [NA]
Amiibo Cards [EU]
Amiibo Cards [JP]

I promise if these are added, I'll go through the existing amiibo to make sure they are all categorized properly.

I didn't skip over this one per se... but I should have mentioned it.

Since we can't rename categories, and there already exists Amiibo Figures and Amiibo Cards, I think that this work should be done by a site admin. Either way, they would have to do something, as it would be like so:

Amiibo Figures
Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]

If that is fine with you, we can do that, and then just put in the list in the first post that the [NA] needs to be added to the first one.
That's fine by me!
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: n64ra on May 10, 2019, 05:25:46 pm
Hello,

Please make a new category under Interactive Figures named Starlink. It appears to be the only toys to life line under Hardware -> Accessory. We currently have Interactive Figures ->
It makes no sense to separate the Starlink toys to life from the other toys to life. 

Thank you
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on May 13, 2019, 09:53:29 am
EU and JP Amiibo Cards/Figures categories created.
n64ra, the Starlink category was created before this topic was made.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on May 23, 2019, 09:55:08 am
These category operations have been completed by site admin:
renamed cat Sega SG-1000 to Sega Computers
moved Sega SG-1000 [TW] from Sega Other to Sega Computers
moved Sega SC-3000 Hardware from Sega Other to Sega Computers

deleted SG-1000 II [JP] sub-cat
deleted SC-3000 [JP] sub-cat
deleted Sega Other cat
deleted Sega Mega Drive [AS] sub-cat

renamed PC - Digital Download [NA] to PC - Digital Download
renamed Magnavox Odyssey² [EU] to Philips Videopac
renamed Sega Master System [TW] to Aaronix Mark III
renamed Sega Master System [JP] to Sega Mark III / Master System [JP]
renamed Amiibo Cards to Amiibo Cards [NA]
renamed Amiibo Figures to Amiibo Figures [NA]
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: spac316 on May 25, 2019, 12:26:14 am
Is the Epoch Super Cassette Vision in the database? If not, here's the info...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Cassette_Vision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Cassette_Vision)
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on June 25, 2019, 12:02:41 pm
Is the Epoch Super Cassette Vision in the database? If not, here's the info...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Cassette_Vision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Cassette_Vision)

Which category should it go into?
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: zenimus on July 22, 2019, 05:37:06 pm
Requesting a revamp of the Mac section. Currently we have:

Apple Macintosh Classic [NA]
Apple Mac Classic [EU]

Apple Mac OS X (Intel) [EU]
Apple Mac OS X (Intel) [NA]
Apple Mac OS X (PowerPC) [NA]
Mac OS X [JP]


I propose changing it to:

Mac Classic [EU]
Mac Classic [NA]

macOS [EU]
macOS [JP]
macOS [NA]



The reason for the Mac Classic change is just to unify the names between the NA and EU regions, and "Mac Classic" is what Apple called the old system in its last days.

The current system was renamed from "Mac OS X" to simply "macOS" a few years ago. At this point I think it would make the most sense to combine the Intel and PowerPC sections into one "macOS [NA]", since they're still technically the same base system.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on July 23, 2019, 09:57:41 am
Is there really a requirement to split Mac OS when X was released? Does it need to have a whole separate category, when PC does not have separate categories for DOS, Windows and NT derivitives?
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: zenimus on July 25, 2019, 07:11:54 pm
Is there really a requirement to split Mac OS when X was released? Does it need to have a whole separate category, when PC does not have separate categories for DOS, Windows and NT derivitives?

It's true, if the PC category doesn't distinguish between DOS and Windows, combining the Mac Classic and OS X sections into one single Mac category makes sense.

On one hand, OS X was a completely new system from a coding standpoint, and not directly compatible with any software from OS 9 and below. On the other hand, they were never competing platforms, since OS X was the direct successor for "Mac version" software.

To make cataloguing simpler, I'll vote for combining them.

Mac [EU]
Mac [JP]
Mac [NA]
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on July 26, 2019, 09:36:47 am
See first post for my thought process on it, pending actions. Might as well keep all the Apple stuff together. Once that cat gets renamed, I can make the new categories (or I can make them now and then rename the cat later) and then move the entries from the Mac section into the appropriate one. Then we can request removal of the Mac category.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: zenimus on July 26, 2019, 01:47:38 pm
See first post for my thought process on it, pending actions. Might as well keep all the Apple stuff together. Once that cat gets renamed, I can make the new categories (or I can make them now and then rename the cat later) and then move the entries from the Mac section into the appropriate one. Then we can request removal of the Mac category.

Moving the Mac sub-categories over into the Apple Computers category is a good move.

Minor grievance: Calling the new Mac sub-categories "Apple Macintosh" seems sort of antiquated, since Apple hasn't used the full "Macintosh" name in 20 years, shortening it to "Mac" even before OS X came out. But then, nobody ever called it "Apple Mac" either. It's kinda like how Game Boy was never called the "Nintendo Game Boy", or the Neo Geo was never the "SNK Neo Geo".

I'd be more in favor of just calling the Mac categories "Mac", since it has the implication of both Classic Mac OS and OS X platforms, whereas "Apple Macintosh" has a more distinct flavor of the 1984-1997 era of computers.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on July 29, 2019, 09:42:11 am
All of the existing sub-cats have Apple name first.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: zenimus on July 29, 2019, 05:53:34 pm
All of the existing sub-cats have Apple name first.

True, for the existing Apple sub-categories, those products actually had the word Apple in the name (except the Pippin). The Apple II computer, was actually called the "Apple II", and so on.

Having a "Mac" sub-category in the Apple Computers section makes the most sense to me, since that term essentially covers all eras of Macintosh releases. Still, "Apple Macintosh" is not technically wrong.

In the end, I appreciate your attention to the topic, so I'll defer to whatever you decide is best.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: jaklyra on August 21, 2019, 12:39:56 pm
Create category for XBOX ONE Brazil exclusive games:

XBOX ONE BR
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on August 22, 2019, 10:38:26 am
Create category for XBOX ONE Brazil exclusive games:

XBOX ONE BR

https://vgcollect.com/browse/xboxonebr
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: aliensstudios on September 06, 2019, 10:44:46 pm
I see we've got Neo Geo AES games in the database, what about MVS games?
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on September 09, 2019, 09:53:48 am
I see we've got Neo Geo AES games in the database, what about MVS games?

They have categories under Arcade in the Browse page:
https://vgcollect.com/browse
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: aliensstudios on September 10, 2019, 06:05:02 pm
I see we've got Neo Geo AES games in the database, what about MVS games?

They have categories under Arcade in the Browse page:
https://vgcollect.com/browse
Ah, good to know.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: mark1982 on September 12, 2019, 11:23:17 pm
Is there a platform for Epic Games Store under PC?

I'm not much of a PC player, however the Epic Games Store has been giving out free games on a weekly basis and I've racked up quite a decent amount. :P

I noticed under PC there is Steam and GOG but no Epic Games Store. If there is, my apologies and can please guide me there. Thanks!
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on September 13, 2019, 09:25:28 am
Use PC Digital Downloads section. Put into description what site/launcher the game is available on.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: mark1982 on September 17, 2019, 11:20:16 am
Ah ok, noted, thanks!

Once I build up a bigger ( free :P ) collection I'll start compiling. Never payed for anything on EGS..
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on September 17, 2019, 12:23:16 pm
I got the season pass for BL3, so hopefully this will be my only purchase from there.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: bololabich on September 27, 2019, 08:41:22 pm
These category operations have been completed by site admin:

deleted Sega Mega Drive [AS] sub-cat

Please bring back Sega Mega Drive [AS] and remove Sega Mega Drive [CN] instead (or just rename).
As far as I know there was no Chinese (People Republic of China) Mega Drive and games that are now under Sega Mega Drive [CN] category are Asian (sold in Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan etc...).
Asian region Mega Drive releases have golden MD logo (sole early releases use JP boxes and carts though, with English and Chinese manuals added in).
Some Asian games have NTSC stickers (from Taiwan) on the boxes and other ones sometimes have PAL stickers (rest of Asia) but as far as I managed to dig they are exactly the same releases (same boxes, bar codes, carts.. everything) so there is no point dividing Asian region into Taiwan and Asia or PAL-Asia and NTSC-Asia.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on September 30, 2019, 10:01:16 am
I can entertain the category being changed to Sega Mega Drive [SEA]
but there should not be any [AS] named categories.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: bololabich on October 01, 2019, 10:01:52 am
That would be cool, certainly better than "CN" as China (PRC not Taiwan) has nothing to do with games in this category :)
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on October 01, 2019, 12:22:21 pm
That would be cool, certainly better than "CN" as China (PRC not Taiwan) has nothing to do with games in this category :)

If we are to follow the established TLD rules, there is no TLD for SEA (and I would really not want to make things worse) ... but there is .ASIA.

I am thinking about it again... It would take more work to fix TLD on categories... since we have other problems. Having some categories like [CN] to take care of all of non-categorised Asian countries is not bad. We still have some categories using wrong TLD, such as [AS] (American Samoa) and [NA] (Nambia)... Not to mention that South African releases often end up in EU categories.

I think that the correct way to handle this would be to re-work the way we track releases, rather than trying to kludge it even more than it is.

I can't decide this on my own. Rather please post into this thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html

The question being: "rename all [AS] and [CN] categories into [SEA]"
Note: it is not actually Style Guide related, AND us regular db admins can't rename categories. So if the motion is adopted, it may take some time before the changes are actually made.
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: konamito on October 10, 2019, 07:34:00 pm
Hello, I have a wide MSX collection and I'd need MSX2 [EU] in order to submit some software I have... Is it possible?
Title: Re: Category/Platform Requests 2.0
Post by: tripredacus on October 11, 2019, 09:39:06 am
Hello, I have a wide MSX collection and I'd need MSX2 [EU] in order to submit some software I have... Is it possible?

sub-cat created:
https://vgcollect.com/browse/msx2eu

Note: link will return 404 if there are no entries in it.