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Title: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: oldgamerz on September 29, 2019, 04:55:05 pm
I was just reading a post done by @emporerdragon,

Quote from: @emporerdragon in late 2016
I left the post out because this was only mentioned once as I was reading
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7758.msg127741.html#msg127741


where he/she said in the middle of a post that  A Pirates Of The Caribbean demo disc for the Xbox 360 automatically formatted the consoles hard drive, and it made me a little concerned if their are other games that we can or have picked up that will actually break our gaming equipment.

Sorry to bring this up if you're reading this @Emporerdragon but I am just curious as to exactly what you found and if anyone else knows anything about this dangerous console disc. or others like this one

I do already know that this one PS2 demo disc erases the memory card but I don't remember which one

Viewtiful Joe 2 demo for the PlayStation 2 I don't have this disc myself

https://vgcollect.com/item/30101
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/30101.jpg)

22 people on site currently have this and it's even on someones wishlist
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: hoshichiri on September 29, 2019, 09:57:26 pm
Make that 23- didn't realize my copy wasn't listed!

I keep hoping to do an experiment with that disc- see, it doesn't just erase your memory card. It forcibly reformats it! So, I've always wondered- sometimes memory cards pick up blocks of corrupted data that can't be deleted (had to return a secondhand one for that reason once.) Can you remove those by using this disc to reformat the card? Trick is, I can't find a corrupt card to try with! If anybody's got one, let me know?
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: weirdfeline on September 29, 2019, 11:29:02 pm
I forgot about this.. I'd like to know more.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: emporerdragon on September 30, 2019, 03:36:42 am
That disc was specifically designed for store retail display demo consoles.

These guys:
(https://i.imgur.com/hlaIRfd.jpg?1)

As these were free-standing devices that couldn't connect to the internet, updates had to be sent out via demo discs, which installed them on the machine. Since they were designed to only be used for retail displays, the update would put several limiters on the system (notably disabling the xbox guide button) to prevent customers from tampering with them, which they would if given the chance (For a colloquial example, where I worked, before the 360 kiosk, we had one for the original Xbox, in which we just had a full copy of Battlefront II in as we had no good demo discs anymore. Longest that game went without someone wiping the data or making an offensive profile was 2 days.).
Once installed, the only way to turn a retail 360 back into a regular 360 was to do a complete reformat.

These would be the two 360 kiosk discs I have:
(https://i.imgur.com/V8uW10K.jpg?3)
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: ignition365 on September 30, 2019, 08:30:13 am
Make that 23- didn't realize my copy wasn't listed!

I keep hoping to do an experiment with that disc- see, it doesn't just erase your memory card. It forcibly reformats it! So, I've always wondered- sometimes memory cards pick up blocks of corrupted data that can't be deleted (had to return a secondhand one for that reason once.) Can you remove those by using this disc to reformat the card? Trick is, I can't find a corrupt card to try with! If anybody's got one, let me know?
I do and I have this, I've been meaning to get around to it.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: dharmajones93 on October 02, 2019, 04:31:59 pm
Probably not the case anymore but there was a big stink earlier this year about Anthem forcing PS4 shutdowns where the system could only be restarted in safe mode (often requiring a rebuild of the hard drive). PC users were also claiming, and in the subreddit still claiming that the game runs their CPUs at 100% for the duration of the play session, which of course has the potential to damage components. That's all I can think of... (creeps into hole after admitting to playing and following Anthem).
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: droaa on October 02, 2019, 11:46:28 pm
I was just reading a post done by @emporerdragon,

Quote from: @emporerdragon in late 2016
I left the post out because this was only mentioned once as I was reading
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7758.msg127741.html#msg127741


where he/she said in the middle of a post that  A Pirates Of The Caribbean demo disc for the Xbox 360 automatically formatted the consoles hard drive, and it made me a little concerned if their are other games that we can or have picked up that will actually break our gaming equipment.

Sorry to bring this up if you're reading this @Emporerdragon but I am just curious as to exactly what you found and if anyone else knows anything about this dangerous console disc. or others like this one

I do already know that this one PS2 demo disc erases the memory card but I don't remember which one

Viewtiful Joe 2 demo for the PlayStation 2 I don't have this disc myself

https://vgcollect.com/item/30101
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/30101.jpg)

22 people on site currently have this and it's even on someones wishlist

Youre correct on the demo disc but there was never a VJ2 demo disc on its own. The disc in question was the Playstation Holiday 2004 demo disc which has VJ2 which erases your memory card when played due to an oversight on the developers when dropping this demo. I have that disc myself and lets just say I take out the memory cards  when I did try it out.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: dashv on October 05, 2019, 02:01:58 am
Super Mario Land for the original GameBoy made me squint so hard as a kid that I nearly went blind.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: pzeke on October 31, 2019, 08:47:11 pm
The original black label version of Jak X: Combat Racing has a programming glitch that corrupts your PS2 memory card, effectively rendering it useless. It happens during autosaving, so the workaround would be to simply take the memory card out and play without it, returning to the menu screen with the memory card reinserted and saving manually from there. The greatest hits version fixed this glitch.

There’s also the MissingNo. glitch in Pokémon Red and Blue where you would follow a series of steps to make MissingNo. appear in order to duplicate your items. This was awesome for many reasons, and while the Game Boy would not suffer any harm, those who abused the trick (or simply put, were careless) would end up having their games royally corrupted to the point they could no longer save. I'm guilty of being careless, but I learned.

Super Mario Land for the original GameBoy made me squint so hard as a kid that I nearly went blind.

Tell me about it. It's funny 'cause it's true.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: turf on October 31, 2019, 10:13:53 pm
Super Mario Land for the original GameBoy made me squint so hard as a kid that I nearly went blind.

I nearly went blind when I was a teenager for a completely different reason.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: pzeke on October 31, 2019, 11:19:51 pm
Super Mario Land for the original GameBoy made me squint so hard as a kid that I nearly went blind.

I nearly went blind when I was a teenager for a completely different reason.

(https://i.imgur.com/GO0rhT1.gif)
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: ignition365 on May 16, 2020, 05:44:07 pm
So i finally got around to giving the holiday 2004 demo a try... it doesnt have a demo for viewtiful joe 2. 

Gonna have to rebuy it and find the one that has the right games.  This would explain the duplicate listing on the site way back when.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: droaa on May 16, 2020, 06:37:43 pm
So i finally got around to giving the holiday 2004 demo a try... it doesnt have a demo for viewtiful joe 2. 

Gonna have to rebuy it and find the one that has the right games.  This would explain the duplicate listing on the site way back when.

Saw this and went to check my disc cause I could have sworn I have it but turns out its not the case. The issue being that the disc art for the two is exactly the same except there are different games from one another so at first glance they might as well be the same.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: ignition365 on May 16, 2020, 06:41:49 pm
So i finally got around to giving the holiday 2004 demo a try... it doesnt have a demo for viewtiful joe 2. 

Gonna have to rebuy it and find the one that has the right games.  This would explain the duplicate listing on the site way back when.

Saw this and went to check my disc cause I could have sworn I have it but turns out its not the case. The issue being that the disc art for the two is exactly the same except there are different games from one another so at first glance they might as well be the same.
yup.  I just went and bought the right disc.  Ill add a listing to the site when i get it and modify the old one.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: ignition365 on May 26, 2020, 07:01:26 pm
Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: oldgamerz on May 26, 2020, 08:20:12 pm
Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data

You should post your find on YouTube or at least maybe someone else on here that wants to. Because that can help someone, with a defective memory card, and it gives purpose to an otherwise dangerous PS2 game :o

Now can the memory card still save new data ok?
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: hoshichiri on June 12, 2020, 10:21:46 am
Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data

So it DOES work! Oh that's good to know- I always thought that disc could be a valuable tool for collectors/retro stores that might need to fix a corrupt card!
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: theflea on June 14, 2020, 06:24:27 pm
There are several games on PC that can damage your computer, there's also a homebrew cart that people make for the NES that all it does is destroy the console.

There is also a Japanese Dreamcast game that has a computer virus on it if your stupid enough to put it in your computer.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/82313.jpg)

Good to know about this demo disc if I come across it.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: droaa on June 14, 2020, 06:41:20 pm
Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data

So it DOES work! Oh that's good to know- I always thought that disc could be a valuable tool for collectors/retro stores that might need to fix a corrupt card!

Makes me wonder if the memory card format would work on a virtual PS2 memory card using a 60GB PS3.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: oldgamerz on June 14, 2020, 09:56:03 pm
There are several games on PC that can damage your computer, there's also a homebrew cart that people make for the NES that all it does is destroy the console.

There is also a Japanese Dreamcast game that has a computer virus on it if your stupid enough to put it in your computer.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/82313.jpg)

Good to know about this demo disc if I come across it.

This is good advice, yes some old PC games will actually read as malware on a newer windows OS, but at the same time I did not have any anti-virus software growing up in the 1990, (and my PC ran just fine) yet when I connected to the Internet on a more modern Windows Operating System, (Windows XP and later) some of the newer malware programs will block older PC games

even though my computer worked just fine without anti-virus in the 1990's as long as it was not connected to the internet

later on in the year 2000's with an offline Windows XP I however did get malware, that used to somehow corrupt any CD-ROM disc left inside the computer for a long amount of time for some reason


Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data

So it DOES work! Oh that's good to know- I always thought that disc could be a valuable tool for collectors/retro stores that might need to fix a corrupt card!

Makes me wonder if the memory card format would work on a virtual PS2 memory card using a 60GB PS3.

(edit) You should be able to just delete your virtual memory card off your PlayStation 's harddrive if it's corrupted on a PlayStation 3 no problem, I think you are safer playing PS2 game on a fully backwards compatible PlayStation 3 then on a PS2 for this reason. :-\
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: hoshichiri on June 15, 2020, 08:25:22 pm
This is good advice, yes some old PC games will actually read as malware on a newer windows OS, but at the same time I did not have any anti-virus software growing up in the 1990, (and my PC ran just fine) yet when I connected to the Internet on a more modern Windows Operating System, (Windows XP and later) some of the newer malware programs will block older PC games

I've heard of the Dreamcast game before, and it's far worse than OS issues... the original disc was compiled on a computer that (unknown to them) had been infected with the Kriz virus- a particularly nasty fellow that spread through your files, waited for Christmas Day, then started deleting- including essential operating functions & corrupting the BIOS. In short- it would destroy your PC. Since the original developer machines had the virus, they inadvertently printed it into the data on the game disc- specifically a screensaver file. Anyone who installed the screensaver risked killing their machines.

Of course, when they figured it out they re-issued the disc, but these days? You have no way of knowing if you've got a bad disc or not. Especially if you live overseas, where the importers would be less likely to be aware of the issue & tell their customers about the recall.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: droaa on June 15, 2020, 11:29:08 pm
There are several games on PC that can damage your computer, there's also a homebrew cart that people make for the NES that all it does is destroy the console.

There is also a Japanese Dreamcast game that has a computer virus on it if your stupid enough to put it in your computer.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/82313.jpg)

Good to know about this demo disc if I come across it.

This is good advice, yes some old PC games will actually read as malware on a newer windows OS, but at the same time I did not have any anti-virus software growing up in the 1990, (and my PC ran just fine) yet when I connected to the Internet on a more modern Windows Operating System, (Windows XP and later) some of the newer malware programs will block older PC games

even though my computer worked just fine without anti-virus in the 1990's as long as it was not connected to the internet

later on in the year 2000's with an offline Windows XP I however did get malware, that used to somehow corrupt any CD-ROM disc left inside the computer for a long amount of time for some reason


Demo arrived.  First PS2 wouldnt read it.  Second PS2 did.  Successfully formatted memory card with corrupted data

So it DOES work! Oh that's good to know- I always thought that disc could be a valuable tool for collectors/retro stores that might need to fix a corrupt card!

Makes me wonder if the memory card format would work on a virtual PS2 memory card using a 60GB PS3.

(edit) You should be able to just delete your virtual memory card off your PlayStation 's harddrive if it's corrupted on a PlayStation 3 no problem, I think you are safer playing PS2 game on a fully backwards compatible PlayStation 3 then on a PS2 for this reason. :-\

I realize that. It's just something I would like to try out which I can once my demo copy from Ebay arrives.
Title: Re: Dangerous Console Video Games We Have Encountered
Post by: oldgamerz on October 24, 2020, 02:36:29 pm
The following was a public conversation on another thread, I did not want to de-rail the conversation but I would like to know more about a Limited Edition  re-release game cartridges' for the Super Nintendo apparently called  The Return of Double Dragon, (causing fires) I never heard of this game mentioned until now, but I figured this is the best thread to talk about this. If this is true, I believe it is true, and it makes me wonder how this could happen upon normal usage.

It sorta makes me not want to buy anymore used cartridge games for any price, and Amazon is currently selling the game in question below for about $42 USD. Imagine spending money on a game that you don't know has known issues as a fire hazard. quick online research on this is giving me no further information on this. I would like to know more, since this is a public forum I hope nobody minds me asking this, I could have asked on that thread, but it would have de-railed the topic

(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/149397.jpg)
https://vgcollect.com/item/149397

(edit)Also another game cartridge known to cause a fire
"new street-fighter-2-snes-cart"

https://vgcollect.com/item/136493
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/136493.jpg)
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-street-fighter-2-snes-cart-being-released-but-/1100-6453012/
Quote
- Answering to @Cartagia

The Return of Double Dragon for SNES that was released a few years ago is a limited edition that can catch fire?

I mean, yes?  We're those Gremlins that exploded when rear-ended or those Galaxies that had their batteries explode not official?