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Title: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on November 02, 2019, 11:54:54 pm
I just received a new flat screen tv yesterday

and about a few weeks or a month ago I received a PlayStation mini. I have not play them much yet because I just got the required television yesterday. I now have both an NES Classic/Mini and a PlayStation 1 Classic/Mini, I need to play them again, but when I first hooked them both up. both the NES and PS1 mini had a little lag, and I was using the default HDMI connection and nothing else.

I thought we could start a discussion on here, many Youtubers are downing the PS1 mini I can't make a final judgement on either of mine because I just started to play them yesterday, the NES classic comes with 30 built in games and the PlayStation 1 comes with 20 games built in
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: droaa on November 03, 2019, 01:09:27 am
NES Classic-Great
SNES Classic=Super Great
Playstation Classic-Trash

I dont know about the others as those are the only 3 I own
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: sworddude on November 03, 2019, 05:41:27 am
free emulation > every mini console ever

Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: Cartagia on November 03, 2019, 06:52:23 am
I just received a new flat screen tv yesterday
Gratz on the new TV!

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thought we could start a discussion on here, many Youtubers are downing the PS1 mini I can't make a final judgement on either of mine because I just started to play them yesterday, the NES classic comes with 30 built in games and the PlayStation 1 comes with 20 games built in

The PS Mini issues don't really stem from the gameplay of the chosen games, its a combination of the following:

Poor game selection.  Every choice was pretty much made based solely on name recognition, with no consideration given to whether it was the "best" game from a franchise to choose.  In addition there are some pretty big omissions, likely made because Sony didn't want to hurt the sales on some of the modern remakes of those same games . franchises.

Poor overall design and user experience.  This thing was rushed out the door and it shows.  Poor UI, not a super great product build, etc.

Mediocre emulation.

And this one is just opinion from me: the games from that generation have, in general, not aged very well.

Granted, I feel that a lot of these issues are mitigated by the current price point of $20-30, instead of being priced at the original $100.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: pzeke on November 03, 2019, 10:19:50 am
And don't forget that some of the games they chose to include are European, which run at 50Hz. Also, when hackers did their thing, they found a list of games that were tested and, in essence, could have potentially been included. You can find the list here (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/12/dozens-of-hidden-game-names-found-in-playstation-classic-source-files/).

Granted, I feel that a lot of these issues are mitigated by the current price point of $20-30, instead of being priced at the original $100.

The Walmart I frequent ended up taking their whole PS1 Classic inventory out and priced it on clearance for $15. I was told that in less than an hour they were all gone.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: droaa on November 03, 2019, 11:06:45 am
And don't forget that some of the games they chose to include are European, which run at 50Hz. Also, when hackers did their thing, they found a list of games that were tested and, in essence, could have potentially been included. You can find the list here (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/12/dozens-of-hidden-game-names-found-in-playstation-classic-source-files/).

Granted, I feel that a lot of these issues are mitigated by the current price point of $20-30, instead of being priced at the original $100.

The Walmart I frequent ended up taking their whole PS1 Classic inventory out and priced it on clearance for $15. I was told that in less than an hour they were all gone.

Never have I felt more violated than when I tried Tekken 3 at 50hz. It felt sooo wrong.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: aliensstudios on November 03, 2019, 11:50:25 am
● So far I like the Genesis Mini the best, it's given me a new lease on the Genesis library. The only downside is the wonky scaling of 256 pixel-wide games.
● The Intellivision Flashback is a great device that plays the games in their original resolution with authentic feeling controllers, I've gotten good use out of it.
● The SNES Classic is neat, but I'm not a huge fan of the flap on the front for the controllers. Great selection of games and great scaling.
● The NES Classic is all right. Great selection of games, but the scaling is awful unless you use the pixel perfect mode. I'd rather just use my AVS with interpolation turned on.
● The Sega Genesis Flashback has some merits, like being able to use original controllers and carts but the emulation is subpar.
● I haven't played my PlayStation Classic yet, but I've got an inkling it won't be as bad as people say.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: marvelvscapcom2 on November 03, 2019, 02:45:44 pm
NES Classic-Great
SNES Classic=Super Great
Playstation Classic-Trash

I dont know about the others as those are the only 3 I own

Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on November 03, 2019, 04:38:41 pm
And don't forget that some of the games they chose to include are European, which run at 50Hz. Also, when hackers did their thing, they found a list of games that were tested and, in essence, could have potentially been included. You can find the list here (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/12/dozens-of-hidden-game-names-found-in-playstation-classic-source-files/).

Granted, I feel that a lot of these issues are mitigated by the current price point of $20-30, instead of being priced at the original $100.

The Walmart I frequent ended up taking their whole PS1 Classic inventory out and priced it on clearance for $15. I was told that in less than an hour they were all gone.

Never have I felt more violated than when I tried Tekken 3 at 50hz. It felt sooo wrong.

I played some Tekken 3 on the PlayStation 1 classic. and so far it's my favorite game on it. However Twisted Metal will take me some time to grasp it's clunky controls. It will take me some time to get used to it's gameplay. I remember playing Twisted Metal 1 on the PlayStation 2 and beating it, I'm not sure if it's just me or this game is really hard to play on the PlayStation Classic

I already played some Super Mario Bros 3 on my NES mini and noticed some lag but it's still playable
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: sworddude on November 03, 2019, 04:57:57 pm
And don't forget that some of the games they chose to include are European, which run at 50Hz. Also, when hackers did their thing, they found a list of games that were tested and, in essence, could have potentially been included. You can find the list here (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/12/dozens-of-hidden-game-names-found-in-playstation-classic-source-files/).

Granted, I feel that a lot of these issues are mitigated by the current price point of $20-30, instead of being priced at the original $100.

The Walmart I frequent ended up taking their whole PS1 Classic inventory out and priced it on clearance for $15. I was told that in less than an hour they were all gone.

Never have I felt more violated than when I tried Tekken 3 at 50hz. It felt sooo wrong.

I played some Tekken 3 on the PlayStation 1 classic. and so far it's my favorite game on it. However Twisted Metal will take me some time to grasp it's clunky controls. It will take me some time to get used to it's gameplay. I remember playing Twisted Metal 1 on the PlayStation 2 and beating it, I'm not sure if it's just me or this game is really hard to play on the PlayStation Classic

I already played some Super Mario Bros 3 on my NES mini and noticed some lag but it's still playable

if you have played tekken 3 in the past and knew the moves by hearts yea sure 50HZ will throw you off

But if you havent really played tekken 3 allot or grew up with 50HZ the difference isn't that big of a deal
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on November 04, 2019, 03:42:44 am
The Graphics of 2 of the games I've played so far on the PS1 Classic/Mini:

Tekken 3 has great HD graphics on the PlayStation Classic/Mini but

The Game of "Ridge Racer Type 4's" graphics on the PlayStation 1 Mini look vary bad. If you want better graphics you have better luck playing Ridge Racer Type 4 on an Original or official PlayStation 1 or Any PlayStation 2 or any PlayStation 3 for that matter. and A 1990's CRT television

SONY I don't think ever bothered to upscale the graphics from their original form on Ridge Racer Type 4
for the PlayStation 1.

But in-spite of the graphics RRT4 seems to be a decent racing game on the PS1 mini console, but I never played this game on actual hardware before.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: courtlyhades296 on November 05, 2019, 02:10:05 pm
SNES Mini: Absolutely the best mini console. Star Fox 2 was the cherry on top.

Mega Drive Mini (Japan): Has lots of rare games that this machine preserves. Also, the PAL versions of Landstalker are 60hz on this machine.

NES Mini: Lineup while solid should have had Dracula's Curse instead of Simon's Quest

PS Mini: Haven't opened this one yet
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: kashell on November 05, 2019, 03:53:45 pm
My favorite of the three I own is the Genesis Mini. Most of the games are new to me, so I'm happy to experience them for a first time.

The Super Nintendo Mini is great because it has so many favorites/classics.

The NES Mini hasn't been opened yet, haha.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: pzeke on November 05, 2019, 04:02:03 pm
My favorite of the three I own is the Genesis Mini. Most of the games are new to me, so I'm happy to experience them for a first time.

The Super Nintendo Mini is great because it has so many favorites/classics.

The NES Mini hasn't been opened yet, haha.

I beat you all; I haven't opened either of the three.

I'm eager to get a Sega Genesis Mini; I'm quite confident Walmart will be dropping the price for it soon. And there's Black Friday approaching, too.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: ferraroso on November 06, 2019, 05:04:41 am
I love these mini consoles!
Currently, I own:
- Famicom Classic Mini
- Famicom Classic Mini: Weekly Shonen Jump 50th Anniversary Version
- Super Famicom Classic Mini
- Mega Drive Mini
- PlayStation Classic
- Neo Geo Mini
And I have the TurboGrafx-16 Mini pre-ordered.

If not for the crappy controller, the Neo Geo Mini would be my favorite one, but because of that I'll have to stick with the Mega Drive Mini. It is the console I've been playing the most overall in the last couple of months.
I have high hopes on the TurboGrafx-16 Mini though...
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: vivigamer on November 06, 2019, 06:01:12 am
I must say, the PlayStation Classic is a beast if you're happy to MOD it, I know such talk is frowned upon but I own 100+ PS1 Games on disc anyway. This is by far the most accessible and enjoyable way for me to play my PS1 games right now on my HDTV and there really isn't much work involved either.

I'm also very happy with my SEGA MegaDrive Mini, playing World Of illusion again in Co-op was a real treat. The game selection is also decent, I think it's a shame they couldn't sort out the whole Sonic 3 fiasco because having Sonic 3 with the Knuckles Addition would have made this Console perfect!
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on November 11, 2019, 11:43:31 pm
I love my PS1 Classic, If you can get one  even for a gift I definitely recommend it. only if you have a television with an HDMI plug. The one I got from Walmart in store came with 2 sturdy controllers and they have a game covering all genres including puzzle, and even survival horror and even a platformer.


A giant downside is the fact that they didn't include a USB power adapter with my PlayStaion 1 Mini, but I'm lucky I had one. and all the cords have a short to medium length,


 so just like the NES mini you need a chair close to the console, not ideal for some more wealthy people who have large rooms or seats far from where the television is setting. I would not recommend any Mini Console for liveing room usage where you can not pull a seat in close.


I really don't see the hate this thing gets. It even has that PS1 intro screen when you turn this thing on some of the the games that they chose for are hard to find in the wild for cheap. and plus this was only a $30 USD gift when I got it,
 If I got Final Fantasy VII game disc alone it would have cost about the same for a used copy of a possible beat up 2 disc Final Fantasy VII

Final Fantasy VII is suppose to have a feature where. When the original game had to change disc, the I heard that they even have a feature to make you press the open button on the PS1 Mini to get that feel of changing the disc on the original system.


Plus this PS1 classic/mini console has a built in memory save system for all the games where you can save and start exactly where you left off

PlayStation 1 Mini Game list.  (post edit) this is not a console some parents want to buy their younger children

Battle Arena Toshinden
Cool Boarders 2
Destruction Derby
Final Fantasy VII
Grand Theft Auto
Intelligent Qube
Jumping Flash!
Metal Gear Solid
Mr. Driller
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Rayman
Resident Evil Director's Cut
Revelations: Persona
Ridge Racer Type 4
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Syphon Filter
Tekken 3
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Twisted Metal
Wild Arms
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: telly on November 13, 2019, 09:18:10 am
I'd like to get a Genesis classic one of these days :)

Maybe as a Christmas gift to myself ;)
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: kashell on November 13, 2019, 10:01:27 am
Treat yo' self! You deserve it.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on December 04, 2019, 11:39:29 pm
I just received a SNES Classic today as a gift from someone special. I helped pay for it but this family member paid about half the price.

We purchased the Super Nintendo Mini from our local Disc Replay for $70 USD and it's like new. I tested it and it works.

Forgot to mention I had a (edit) An At Games Brand Sega Genesis console, with a cartridge slot and about 80 built in games. So far, I got 4 of the mini consoles, including a NES mini in which I got the same day as my television for $50 USD at Disc Replay.

I love all 4 of these mini consoles.

SNES mini has the following games built in

1: Contra III The Alien Wars
2: Donky Kong Country
3: Earthbound
4: Final Fantasy III
5: F-Zero
6: Kirbys Dream Course
7: Kirby Super Star
8: Mega Man X
9: Secreat Of Mana
10: Star Fox
11: Street Fighter II Turbo Hyper FIghting
12: Super Castlevania IV
13: Super Ghouls And Ghosts
14: Super Mario Kart
15: Super Mario RPG Legand Of The Seven Stars
16: Suoer Mario World
17: Super Metriod
18: Super Punch Out
19: Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past
20: Yoshi's Island

Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: droaa on December 05, 2019, 12:45:46 pm
I just received a SNES Classic today as a gift from someone special. I helped pay for it but this family member paid about half the price.

We purchased the Super Nintendo Mini from our local Disc Replay for $70 USD and it's like new. I tested it and it works.

Forgot to mention I had a Sega Genesis Classic console, with a cartridge slot and about 80 built in games. So far, I got 4 of the mini consoles, including a NES mini in which I got the same day as my television for $50 USD at Disc Replay.

I love all 4 of these mini consoles.

SNES mini has the following games built in

1: Contra III The Alien Wars
2: Donky Kong Country
3: Earthbound
4: Final Fantasy III
5: F-Zero
6: Kirbys Dream Course
7: Kirby Super Star
8: Mega Man X
9: Secreat Of Mana
10: Star Fox
11: Street Fighter II Turbo Hyper FIghting
12: Super Castlevania IV
13: Super Ghouls And Ghosts
14: Super Mario Kart
15: Super Mario RPG Legand Of The Seven Stars
16: Suoer Mario World
17: Super Metriod
18: Super Punch Out
19: Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past
20: Yoshi's Island

You forgot Star Fox 2 but then again, that's an unlockable
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: Cartagia on December 05, 2019, 01:52:21 pm
Forgot to mention I had a Sega Genesis Classic console, with a cartridge slot and about 80 built in games.

It sounds like what you actually have is a Sega Genesis Flashback, which is very similar to the Sega Genesis Classic (Mini), but has some pretty steep differences.

Most notably (most versions of) the Flashback can play Genesis carts and use Genesis controllers.  The Classic has much better emulation and save, capabilities, however.
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on December 05, 2019, 07:33:38 pm

You forgot Star Fox 2 but then again, that's an unlockable

yes I did, just now remembered, does anyone know how to unlock it?

 it appears on screen as a Christmas gift with a bow on the screen, but I never tried to play Starfox 2 yet only played Super Mario Kart so far

Forgot to mention I had a Sega Genesis Classic console, with a cartridge slot and about 80 built in games.

It sounds like what you actually have is a Sega Genesis Flashback, which is very similar to the Sega Genesis Classic (Mini), but has some pretty steep differences.

Most notably (most versions of) the Flashback can play Genesis carts and use Genesis controllers.  The Classic has much better emulation and save, capabilities, however.

yes you are correct it is made by AT Games and therefore is not the actual classic I never bought it in the box so I didn't quite know what it was,
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: droaa on December 05, 2019, 10:35:33 pm

You forgot Star Fox 2 but then again, that's an unlockable

yes I did, just now remembered, does anyone know how to unlock it?

 it appears on screen as a Christmas gift with a bow on the screen, but I never tried to play Starfox 2 yet only played Super Mario Kart so far

All you gotta do is finish the first level in the first Starfox to unlock Starfox 2
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on December 05, 2019, 11:03:18 pm

You forgot Star Fox 2 but then again, that's an unlockable

yes I did, just now remembered, does anyone know how to unlock it?

 it appears on screen as a Christmas gift with a bow on the screen, but I never tried to play Starfox 2 yet only played Super Mario Kart so far

All you gotta do is finish the first level in the first Starfox to unlock Starfox 2


thanks @droaa  :)
Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: oldgamerz on December 09, 2019, 11:22:57 pm
sorry for the late notice  :(

so before recommending this PS1 classic I didn't think about parents buying this for their young children


If you follow the ESRB rating system and are looking to buy a PS1 mini you need to know the following I just discovered

I just now realized that the PlayStation 1 classic/mini consoles are rated "M" by the ESRB for mature 17+ year old audiences according to the North American rating system. So this makes the console non child friendly to some parents, even though my parents never paid attention to what my childhood games were rated for me growing up

Therefore I should have known better because it does have Resident Evil Directors Cut as Well as "Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six" and "Twisted Metal 1" games on it.

I wish they would made this thing more for kids. I don't know what SONY was thinking

but I just realized that the PS1 Classic Mini is recommended for mature only audiences.

However the SNES mini is rated T for teens an adolescents and the NES Mini is rated E for Everyone

Title: Re: Our Classic/Mini Consoles Discussion
Post by: Cartagia on December 10, 2019, 06:32:15 am
The mini consoles aren’t marketed toward children, though.  They are for adults who have nostalgia about playing these games.