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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: Warmsignal on January 20, 2020, 12:55:25 pm
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I have to admit that I usually do this. When a game is re-printed with added content, the cover art gets compromised in the process with all kinds of writing, badges, and revisions. For example, Nier Automata GOTY is on sale right now for as little as the first print edition, but the cover is kinda crap in comparison. This is usually the situation for most GOTY, or deluxe editions. They kind of look like a greatest hits afterthought that muddles up the packaging.
So the question becomes, do I want that supposed bonus content that comes with it, or do I want better looking shelf-trinket? I can still download the bonus content if I really wanted it. This is what is currently keeping me from jumping on this deal for Nier, it's that lackluster re-worked art. Looks like crap. Would rather just have the first print of the game.
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I’m the exact opposite, usually. I’d much rather have everything together in one compact package. The only exception to this is if the new content isn’t on the disc (looking at you PS4 Spider-Man).
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I’m the exact opposite, usually. I’d much rather have everything together in one compact package. The only exception to this is if the new content isn’t on the disc (looking at you PS4 Spider-Man).
I strongly dislike the inconsistency. It's the same reason I will not buy a collector's edition, or a steel-book, etc. Yeah it's supposedly "better", but it looks like crap, IMO. It looks like it does not belong. I also don't buy greatest hits, even though it's a better deal. Those abominations do not belong!
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If the game in question is something I really want and there is some extra stuff added to the deluxe edition that I feel is worth it then I will go for that. The Deluxe Edition subtitle doesnt really bother me. Speaking of Nier, for the longest time(maybe a year) I've had Nier on my shelf unplayed but then over BF, they had the Game Of The Yorha Edition on sale so I trade in my vanilla copy for that one especially considering IMO, the GotY cover is better than what we got originally. Hell, that GotY cover was the cover the Japanese version received when it came out.
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If the game in question is something I really want and there is some extra stuff added to the deluxe edition that I feel is worth it then I will go for that. The Deluxe Edition subtitle doesnt really bother me. Speaking of Nier, for the longest time(maybe a year) I've had Nier on my shelf unplayed but then over BF, they had the Game Of The Yorha Edition on sale so I trade in my vanilla copy for that one especially considering IMO, the GotY cover is better than what we got originally. Hell, that GotY cover was the cover the Japanese version received when it came out.
To each their own. Regardless, the "collector's edition" is by far the worse.
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definitive editions have just pretty much no damage to the art though they get less ugly by the day. just as good as a first print for way more games except for the definitve edition text or sometimes other art work
considering dlc content etc definitive edition is the way to go in this day and age this isnt like the old days in wich in some odd cases a few bugs where fixed.
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definitive editions have just pretty much no damage to the art though they get less ugly by the day. just as good as a first print for way more games except for the definitve edition text or sometimes other art work
considering dlc content etc definitive edition is the way to go in this day and age.
Especially if said edition manages to get all that content on the disc itself rather than downloadable codes in the case.
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Even if the deluxe edition was the same price as the original base game, that came out years earlier, I'd buy the Deluxe edition just to have the expansion packs with it.
(for information about older PC games)
I had a lot of first print PC games growing up, because the deluxe edition would come out 1 year to 2 years later.
PC deluxe editions used to have the base game included and could install 3 of the games of the Sims 2 series
(for example) at once.
but you would need to have the original games or expansions uninstalled or it would not work
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
As for Deluxe Editions/CEs/LEs I used to always jump for these when possible, but now I only get these when its for a game I really, really care about, and even then I don't do it all the time; they just take up too much space.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
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I read on here somewhere else The Greatest hits game do come with a more updated patch. (on the disc) at least on the PlayStation 3 games only difference is that the cases, they are red in the United States and not clear like the rest
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I read on here somewhere else The Greatest hits game do come with a more updated patch. (on the disc) at least on the PlayStation 3 games only difference is that the cases, they are red in the United States and not clear like the rest
There might be some, but Greatest Hits largely they are the same game rebranded. Even GOTY editions may still need patches. So, Dishonored comes with all the DLC on the disc...neat right? Well, the patch you need to PLAY the DLC is not on the disc, you still need to DL it from Sony.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
Thats one the few I own myself. I remember when DMC3 Special Edition came out, it was only GH until it was packaged with the 5th Anniversary collection and it came to be black label. Granted it does have the not for resale label where the UPC is but hey, still black label. Going back to VF4, at one point I went as far as to trying to see if someone was perhaps selling a custom black label cover for that game. I did find one listing on ebay but never pulled the trigger. Havent seen it since though
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I read on here somewhere else The Greatest hits game do come with a more updated patch. (on the disc) at least on the PlayStation 3 games only difference is that the cases, they are red in the United States and not clear like the rest
In terms of collecting for consoles before the more digital era of patching games by over a network, games for older consoles such as the PlayStation which received Greatest Hits reprints often were given the same treatment. Minor tweaks and updates to the base game were made since the title's original printing, meaning such existences should actually be considered more sought after.
I generally don't play many games that eventually see a second print or GOTY editions. However, were I to play these titles again, I would go out and buy these updates versions, as opposed to buying DLC packs from a digital storefront. If I were not to have played a game prior to its GOTY or second print edition, I would simply buy the most updated version.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
What really irks me about PlayStation's greatest hits especially, is the extremely low threshold they require in order for the game to become a "greatest hit". Especially back in the PS1 era, the number was very, very low. Something like 100,000 copies. That's why you tend to find way more GH editions of a game than the black label, because more of them actually exist. I still say they're guilty of re-branding titles too hastily. Just look at Yakuza 0 on PS4. Good luck even finding a copy that ISN'T greatest hits... and what even is Yakuza 0? Few actually know, but already a greatest hit! I think sometimes Sony employs it as a tactic of enticing more sales.
With Nintendo, I think actually require that they get $60 one million times over, before they'll re-print them as Nintendo Select. It makes quite a difference, you don't see Nintendo Selects all that often.
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The GOTY editions look perfectly fine:
(https://i.imgur.com/u93Hwj4.jpg?1)
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I'm the complete opposite. I tend not to buy any new releases for at least a year or two to see if a more finished (complete) version is released as GOTY. Although some of the artwork is pretty garish on the re-releases, especially platinum ones, I would rather have a more complete experience on disc.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
Basically this.
For modern titles, I'd like to get the most recent edition. It's not like the front cover is on full display, anyway.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
What really irks me about PlayStation's greatest hits especially, is the extremely low threshold they require in order for the game to become a "greatest hit". Especially back in the PS1 era, the number was very, very low. Something like 100,000 copies. That's why you tend to find way more GH editions of a game than the black label, because more of them actually exist. I still say they're guilty of re-branding titles too hastily. Just look at Yakuza 0 on PS4. Good luck even finding a copy that ISN'T greatest hits... and what even is Yakuza 0? Few actually know, but already a greatest hit! I think sometimes Sony employs it as a tactic of enticing more sales.
With Nintendo, I think actually require that they get $60 one million times over, before they'll re-print them as Nintendo Select. It makes quite a difference, you don't see Nintendo Selects all that often.
Despite selling very well, I've also noticed some updated games that have all bonus content included that do have a non-greatest hits version, but they are very, very hard to find. I remember a lot of these on the PS3, most notably Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition, Read Dead Redemption GOTY Edition, and GTA4 GOTY Edition. Finding a black label version of these three was very, very hard.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
What really irks me about PlayStation's greatest hits especially, is the extremely low threshold they require in order for the game to become a "greatest hit". Especially back in the PS1 era, the number was very, very low. Something like 100,000 copies. That's why you tend to find way more GH editions of a game than the black label, because more of them actually exist. I still say they're guilty of re-branding titles too hastily. Just look at Yakuza 0 on PS4. Good luck even finding a copy that ISN'T greatest hits... and what even is Yakuza 0? Few actually know, but already a greatest hit! I think sometimes Sony employs it as a tactic of enticing more sales.
With Nintendo, I think actually require that they get $60 one million times over, before they'll re-print them as Nintendo Select. It makes quite a difference, you don't see Nintendo Selects all that often.
Despite selling very well, I've also noticed some updated games that have all bonus content included that do have a non-greatest hits version, but they are very, very hard to find. I remember a lot of these on the PS3, most notably Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition, Read Dead Redemption GOTY Edition, and GTA4 GOTY Edition. Finding a black label version of these three was very, very hard.
As someone who has all 3, I can cosign this. Not matter how many times I was at any given game shop, I only ever saw those 3 in GH form and I wanted to upgrade from my standard copies so finding the non GH copies was a task. I managed to find all 3 on ebay after some looking and finding prices I thought were fair but damn it was time consuming
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
What really irks me about PlayStation's greatest hits especially, is the extremely low threshold they require in order for the game to become a "greatest hit". Especially back in the PS1 era, the number was very, very low. Something like 100,000 copies. That's why you tend to find way more GH editions of a game than the black label, because more of them actually exist. I still say they're guilty of re-branding titles too hastily. Just look at Yakuza 0 on PS4. Good luck even finding a copy that ISN'T greatest hits... and what even is Yakuza 0? Few actually know, but already a greatest hit! I think sometimes Sony employs it as a tactic of enticing more sales.
With Nintendo, I think actually require that they get $60 one million times over, before they'll re-print them as Nintendo Select. It makes quite a difference, you don't see Nintendo Selects all that often.
Despite selling very well, I've also noticed some updated games that have all bonus content included that do have a non-greatest hits version, but they are very, very hard to find. I remember a lot of these on the PS3, most notably Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition, Read Dead Redemption GOTY Edition, and GTA4 GOTY Edition. Finding a black label version of these three was very, very hard.
As someone who has all 3, I can cosign this. Not matter how many times I was at any given game shop, I only ever saw those 3 in GH form and I wanted to upgrade from my standard copies so finding the non GH copies was a task. I managed to find all 3 on ebay after some looking and finding prices I thought were fair but damn it was time consuming
I think Sony just makes some titles into greatest hits regardless of any sales figures. It's incredibly hard to find a Yakuza 0 that isn't either the launch edition with the slip cover (which is scarce), or a greatest hits. There may not have even been anything other than those two. There's no way that game sold so many copies at launch that it become a justified greatest hit, I'm calling shenanigans.
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I don't really care about first print necessarily, but I do care about Greatest Hits/Player's Choice covers. They are without exception hideous, and I actively choose to not have them in my collection. I understand that this sometimes means that having certain content or updates but since most of this is distributed digitally anyways it doesn't matter to me as much.
This so much. I made it a mission over the course of the last couple of years of replacing my Greatest Hits for PS2 and PS1 for black label versions. Now I have less of them than before which is great with some exceptions but overall, not a fan of them I especially made sure not to have em when the PS3 introduced those solid red cases.
I did this pretty early on in my collecting career. I've been greatest hits free for about 6-years now. The only greatest hits game I can think of that I have is Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution which only came in a greatest hits case.
What really irks me about PlayStation's greatest hits especially, is the extremely low threshold they require in order for the game to become a "greatest hit". Especially back in the PS1 era, the number was very, very low. Something like 100,000 copies. That's why you tend to find way more GH editions of a game than the black label, because more of them actually exist. I still say they're guilty of re-branding titles too hastily. Just look at Yakuza 0 on PS4. Good luck even finding a copy that ISN'T greatest hits... and what even is Yakuza 0? Few actually know, but already a greatest hit! I think sometimes Sony employs it as a tactic of enticing more sales.
With Nintendo, I think actually require that they get $60 one million times over, before they'll re-print them as Nintendo Select. It makes quite a difference, you don't see Nintendo Selects all that often.
Despite selling very well, I've also noticed some updated games that have all bonus content included that do have a non-greatest hits version, but they are very, very hard to find. I remember a lot of these on the PS3, most notably Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition, Read Dead Redemption GOTY Edition, and GTA4 GOTY Edition. Finding a black label version of these three was very, very hard.
As someone who has all 3, I can cosign this. Not matter how many times I was at any given game shop, I only ever saw those 3 in GH form and I wanted to upgrade from my standard copies so finding the non GH copies was a task. I managed to find all 3 on ebay after some looking and finding prices I thought were fair but damn it was time consuming
I think Sony just makes some titles into greatest hits regardless of any sales figures. It's incredibly hard to find a Yakuza 0 that isn't either the launch edition with the slip cover (which is scarce), or a greatest hits. There may not have even been anything other than those two. There's no way that game sold so many copies at launch that it become a justified greatest hit, I'm calling shenanigans.
I have yakuza 0 however it never came with slipcover and this was before it became Playstation hits which nowadays its all I see on shelves
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Purposfully chose regular copy of smash over steelbook at launch. Aint having my shelf look wack.
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Vanilla copies FTW.
I don't need "10 OUT OF 10 - BEST GAME BEST GAME" printed all over a monochromized cover art. They can take that DLC and shove it. ;)
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I have to admit that I usually do this. When a game is re-printed with added content, the cover art gets compromised in the process with all kinds of writing, badges, and revisions. For example, Nier Automata GOTY is on sale right now for as little as the first print edition, but the cover is kinda crap in comparison. This is usually the situation for most GOTY, or deluxe editions. They kind of look like a greatest hits afterthought that muddles up the packaging.
So the question becomes, do I want that supposed bonus content that comes with it, or do I want better looking shelf-trinket? I can still download the bonus content if I really wanted it. This is what is currently keeping me from jumping on this deal for Nier, it's that lackluster re-worked art. Looks like crap. Would rather just have the first print of the game.
I've no clue what you're talking about; they actually used the Japanese cover art for the GOTYE, which only has two logos, by the way. This version of the game also changes the naming scheme to "YoRHa" instead of "Year", so both the name and image go in hand. Not to mention the artwork was done by Akihiko Yoshida (Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy series, Vagrant Story, A.S.H., Bravely Default). It dumbfounds me that you call that "crap".
I mean, look at this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ozLeFjd.jpg)
I digress.
Anyway, you're essentially more of a collector, so I guess shelf candy would be more important. Personally I'd rather have a complete edition instead of the original release, so long as the content is on the disc, otherwise I'll stick with the original release. With that said, though, price was the only reason I bought the GOTYE of Spider-Man, and for the aforementioned NieR: Automata is actually the artwork.
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I have to admit that I usually do this. When a game is re-printed with added content, the cover art gets compromised in the process with all kinds of writing, badges, and revisions. For example, Nier Automata GOTY is on sale right now for as little as the first print edition, but the cover is kinda crap in comparison. This is usually the situation for most GOTY, or deluxe editions. They kind of look like a greatest hits afterthought that muddles up the packaging.
So the question becomes, do I want that supposed bonus content that comes with it, or do I want better looking shelf-trinket? I can still download the bonus content if I really wanted it. This is what is currently keeping me from jumping on this deal for Nier, it's that lackluster re-worked art. Looks like crap. Would rather just have the first print of the game.
I've no clue what you're talking about; they actually used the Japanese cover art for the GOTYE, which only has two logos, by the way. This version of the game also changes the naming scheme to "YoRHa" instead of "Year", so both the name and image go in hand. Not to mention the artwork was done by Akihiko Yoshida (Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy series, Vagrant Story, A.S.H., Bravely Default). It dumbfounds me that you call that "crap".
I digress.
Anyway, you're essentially more of a collector, so I guess shelf candy would be more important. Personally I'd rather have a complete edition instead of the original release, so long as the content is on the disc, otherwise I'll stick with the original release. With that said, though, price was the only reason I bought the GOTYE of Spider-Man, and for the aforementioned NieR: Automata is actually the artwork.
One man's crap is another man's treasure? I dunno. They made it monochrome the placed the title over the dead center of the image, it's kind of like one of those hidden pictures where the longer you stare at it, the more you start to actually see what it is. I don't care for that. I'm one of the few here who actually prefers western style cover art anyhow, never been a fan of Final Fantasy cover art either. Art is totally subjective.
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I prefer the original releases to the GOTY/complete editions. Some of the games this gen and last had multiple tweaks to the cover art, due to unique character skins from different stores. I didn’t bother trying to hunt em all down though.
The last game I collected the different artwork for was Mortal Kombat Deception on Xbox.
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First editions look much nicer to me.
I don’t play much DLC so GOTY editions are not my thing.
What I abhor is things like the current PlayStation Hits on PS4. As I’ve just started collecting for the PS4, I am trying to buy sealed copies at about £10-15. But games like Horizon Zero Dawn are a struggle to even find.
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First editions look much nicer to me.
I don’t play much DLC so GOTY editions are not my thing.
What I abhor is things like the current PlayStation Hits on PS4. As I’ve just started collecting for the PS4, I am trying to buy sealed copies at about £10-15. But games like Horizon Zero Dawn are a struggle to even find.
Oh lord, I remember the headache of procuring the first print of Horizon Zero Dawn, instead of the much compromised "complete edition". The greatest hits version they sell now? Just wow. What a disaster-piece. I'm disappointed they didn't write even more crap on it. They left some blank space, the slackers.
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First editions look much nicer to me.
I don’t play much DLC so GOTY editions are not my thing.
What I abhor is things like the current PlayStation Hits on PS4. As I’ve just started collecting for the PS4, I am trying to buy sealed copies at about £10-15. But games like Horizon Zero Dawn are a struggle to even find.
Oh lord, I remember the headache of procuring the first print of Horizon Zero Dawn, instead of the much compromised "complete edition". The greatest hits version they sell now? Just wow. What a disaster-piece. I'm disappointed they didn't write even more crap on it. They left some blank space, the slackers.
Funnily enough I just found one on Ebay at £9.99 + £ 1.95 shipping.
Looks genuine enough from the photos, I can still see the PS4 wrapper thing. It's a guy only selling a few games from his collection, not like a scammer with dozens of items listed. I'm a bit nervous it's not going to be what I want, but fingers crossed!
There are a few companies selling 'New and Sealed' First edition copies on Amazon, but if you read through the reviews there are lots of people complaining the boxes are marked 'Not for Resale' or it's the South American copy!
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I'm a bit nervous it's not going to be what I want, but fingers crossed!
You know you can message the seller in case you have doubts, right? Granted, the seller should have the forethought of mentioning anything crucial to the sale in the description box, but in the event of doubt, that's why the "contact seller" option is there for.
Never buy anything if you're unsure. Rule of thumb.
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I'm a bit nervous it's not going to be what I want, but fingers crossed!
You know you can message the seller in case you have doubts, right? Granted, the seller should have the forethought of mentioning anything crucial to the sale in the description box, but in the event of doubt, that's why the "contact seller" option is there for.
Never buy anything if you're unsure. Rule of thumb.
Good advice. I’ve already paid so hopefully it’s okay. The worst I’ll be down is £11.90 :)
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Hey, £11.90 is still £11.90.
But yeah, asking when in doubt helps prevent unnecessary headaches, so do keep that in mind for next time.
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Hey, £11.90 is still £11.90.
But yeah, asking when in doubt helps prevent unnecessary headaches, so do keep that in mind for next time.
Will do. It should arrive over the weekend, I'll post the result! :)