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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: seether on February 02, 2020, 02:30:20 pm
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I’m either very interested and will buy day one or not interested at all and will never buy.
So I typically buy current gen games at full price but I only buy maybe three games a year.
I’m pretty jaded out on sequels and samey concepts.
I can play a pretty broad section of the current gen back catalogue via game pass.
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Almost always at least half-price or lower... with one exception, first party Nintendo. I buy those at Walmart because they're $50 instead of $60 and they do not get clearanced or reduced being Nintendo titles. Lately I've been picking up most modern titles anywhere from $5 - $24.99
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If it's a game I'm absolutely dying to play and plan on playing it immediately, I'll pay full price on it. However, 90% of new games I have some sort of interest in, I'm much more inclined to wait 2 to 6-months and pick it up for 50-75% of its original MSRP.
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We just went through this topic, we don't need it again.
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Seether gonna seeth. ::)
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We just went through this topic, we don't need it again.
Ironically enough, he posted this on Groundhog Day. Not sure if it was intentional.
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We just went through this topic, we don't need it again.
He does seem very fixated on the personal economics of being a gamer. My guess is he trolls...I mean posts on here out of jealousy of what he wishes he could have, but can't for one reason or another. I'm not shaming him for not having the means to afford gaming or collecting, but how he goes about dealing with it is pretty immature and pathetic. Secretly he yearns to be able to afford this hobby and that is why he stays, and to troll us.
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We just went through this topic, we don't need it again.
Ironically enough, he posted this on Groundhog Day. Not sure if it was intentional.
Well, seeing as how the previous times he's reposted his own topics were not Groundhog Day, I'm gonna go with no.
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I'm always looking for bargains when it comes to PS4 games.
My wife bought me a PS4 for Christmas & I have been buying games like crazy. Most of them have been off Ebay, but I also like going into pawn shops & seeing what they have available. I will generally ask them how much they sell them for as soon as I walk in. If they say anything along the lines of "I'll have to look it up", I usually won't buy from them. One time a pawn broker told me that they charge what Gamestop charges. If I wanted to pay what Gamestop charges for their games, I would buy from Gamestop.
In most cases, pawn shops that sell their games for $10.00 each is what I consider fair unless its an older sports title. I also look at the discs closely too. If there is the slightest top-side scratch on it, I won't buy it. Top-side scratches can't be fixed since the game data is stored in the label. Even if the game boots up perfectly with a scratch, at some point that game will mess up.
I will give a word of advice: DON'T BUY USED GAMES FROM GAMESTOP'S WEBSITE. While I didn't have any problems with the PS2 titles I purchased from them, I had several PS4 titles with lots of scratches. To make matters worse, when I sent an email asking them about replacing them, they never responded. Fortunately, the stores that had the same copies of the defective games, let me swap it for a working disc.
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Yeah, I just can't get behind any business taking the lazy route and wanting to base their prices on someone else's prices. If you're going to do that, at least beat your competitor's prices. Don't look em up on eBay, either. If you're pricing isn't any different from anyone else, then why should people buy from you? Maybe try a more honest model and price them based on what you think they'd be worth given the condition, the age, the type of game, etc. I know some places that actually do that. But in order to do it that way, you have to be someone who actually cares and knows about games, not just a person who flips and resells things.
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Yeah, I just can't get behind any business taking the lazy route and wanting to base their prices on someone else's prices. If you're going to do that, at least beat your competitor's prices. [/b]Don't look em up on eBay, either.[/b]
Of course I'm going to look them up on eBay for the sake of reference. Then I'll decide how much I'll discount based on the game and condition. If you don't like the price, I'm sure you'll find someone else down the road. Good things come to the patient...as long as you can be patient. I don't think there's anything wrong with using eBay as some form of reference guide.
Maybe try a more honest model and price them based on what you think they'd be worth given the condition, the age, the type of game, etc. I know some places that actually do that.
You sold the case and manual for Contra: Legacy of War for the Sega Saturn for $80 on eBay; I'm sure there could've been a better price for it based on your argument.
But in order to do it that way, you have to be someone who actually cares and knows about games, not just a person who flips and resells things.
In a perfect world... Otherwise, this sounds quite pedantic.
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You sold the case and manual for Contra: Legacy of War for the Sega Saturn for $80 on eBay; I'm sure there could've been a better price for it based on your argument.
Firstly, I wondering if you went sleuthing after my eBay information, and then searched out my previous transaction activity or something to that effect to prove a point? Or, were you the buyer? Because I don't recall sharing anything about this on the forum and I just checked to verify that listing info is no longer available. I feel like you're about to tell me what I wore today and where I ate lunch.
Secondly, there wasn't a better price based on my argument because that sale was purely damage control. I sold it for the exact dollar and change amount that I paid for it, after I mistakenly bought it thinking that it was a CIB copy. I've no clue what the box is worth, but I paid $80 for it and then wanted my money back out of that mistake. So I made zero profit.
I do sell games sometimes (and I usually ask what I paid for them or base it on that), but I'm not in the business of selling games. I just can't respect the act of people looking things up on eBay to reference what something is "worth" to them. That's not an estimation of worth as much as estimation of entitlement. Asking prices are just that. I think eBay is ultimately a terrible determinant of value outside of auctions that start at $0.
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I will give a word of advice: DON'T BUY USED GAMES FROM GAMESTOP'S WEBSITE. While I didn't have any problems with the PS2 titles I purchased from them, I had several PS4 titles with lots of scratches. To make matters worse, when I sent an email asking them about replacing them, they never responded. Fortunately, the stores that had the same copies of the defective games, let me swap it for a working disc.[/size]
I’ve never bought anything used online from GameStop (or anything, really). I like having my games complete, as far as disc-based games are concerned, so the fact they don’t disclose if the games they’re selling are complete or not is a definite turn off for me—making a purchase to then be surprised with a disc only copy doesn’t sound like fun.
Firstly, I wondering if you went sleuthing after my eBay information, and then searched out my previous transaction activity or something to that effect to prove a point? Or, were you the buyer? Because I don't recall sharing anything about this on the forum and I just checked to verify that listing info is no longer available. I feel like you're about to tell me what I wore today and where I ate lunch.
Nah, I just happened to search for PS4 lots a few days or so ago and came across your listing for Among the Sleep and Teslagrad, no sleuthing involved, other than having seen your past feedback as a seller. It was simply an observation.
Taking scalpers and any other shady sellers out of the equation, eBay I feel is a good way to gauge prices for anyone who wishes to legitimately sell games. People can use the advanced search feature to lookup sold listings for the item they want to sell and go from there; it obviously goes without saying that if you want to sell your item, beating your competitor’s price should be your way to approach things, but that isn’t necessarily always true—I don’t have to lower my standards for the sake of making a few bucks, especially if the price I’ve set for the item is reasonable. I know there are places that sell at eBay prices, but most of these dimwits don’t even bother to lookup/research what they’re selling and literally set their prices based on the highest asking price, and this is even seen on the website itself. A good number of resellers use PriceCharting, too, which in turn uses eBay as a metric; and even GameValueNow does this. While eBay is quite a nauseating place at times, the stigma it has been given over the years is at times unwarranted.
Personally, I usually have a price in my mind for whatever item I want to sell, but I will still do a little research and check for how much that item sold and decide if selling at that price or take a percentage off after factoring condition.
I just can't respect the act of people looking things up on eBay to reference what something is "worth" to them. That's not an estimation of worth as much as estimation of entitlement.
Don’t you think that’s a shallow thing to say? I feel like you're saying these things to try and ruffle feathers, but in turn you're sounding rather flippant; the way you word your posts often have a holier-than-thou connotation, if I'm being honest. People have the right to sell whatever they have at whatever price they deem fit and even lookup for reference for the sake of furthering their sale—doing that doesn’t make them intrinsically greedy or somehow dishonest. It’s okay if you’d rather sell low because “it’s the right thing to do” instead of making a profit by however small the margin is, there’s nothing wrong with either, but it’s important to be considerate and disagree without being disagreeable in the process.
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I think eBay is a very good tool of valuation, especially filtering to show only the sold items.
That’s what people are willing to pay for an item.
It would be lovely if everyone sold everything for a dime but to say you can’t respect people who don’t is pretty shortsighted.
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I think eBay is a very good tool of valuation, especially filtering to show only the sold items.
That’s what people are willing to pay for an item.
It would be lovely if everyone sold everything for a dime but to say you can’t respect people who don’t is pretty shortsighted.
Fully agree.
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Just venting my general frustration with eBay as a platform, and the way people use it while asking you to hold up, as they check to see how much to charge you for something they're in possession of. Shallow? Yes, I will complain but then of course I'm going to go crawling back. eBay to me just feels less legitimate as a pillar of valuation because there's so much that seems entirely arbitrary about it. Look up Powerslave for the Saturn and then observe 4 to 5 separate listings all by the same seller, selling different copies of the game but taking all different backgrounds photos and wording slightly different. It gives the false impression that the game is generally perceived to be worth those extremely similar prices he's asking for all of them. Seems like market manipulation to me. I've seen games go from being priced at next to nothing, to hundreds of dollars with no precedent of such a price increase on any record. That to me, is a form of dishonesty that has lasting influence. So then the next seller who comes along looking to sell the same title, suddenly also feels they should get a similar high amount, etc.
Prior to eBay's BIN option and prior to eBay, people had to pay for books with information on auction records and store sales for collectibles like coins, and baseball cards. Call it pedantic, but I find it to be an art that has been lost, in large part due to the nature and ease of using eBay. Even still, quoting a price on an ended auction from eBay I can respect somewhat, because I feel like that is legitimately a show of what buyers feel it's worth and not simply what a seller pulled out of the air. After all, there is such a thing as overpaying. eBay is no Kelley Blue Book. Condition is often not taken to effect value. No one can even agree on what condition is. There's just so many problems. The list could go on, and on.
Making a profit is fine, I'm certainly not above it. I only pointed out that I made no profit because that sale you quoted needed some context. It wasn't sold for profit. Normally, I'd prefer to sell low not for any moral or ethical reason but so it will sell faster, because I am greedy and want money now and not in three months from now when someone finally breaks down and pays me more than they wanted to. In terms of sales, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is the way I see it.
However, I don't want to derail Seether's thread for focusing on the politics of eBay and market values. It is what it is, more people agree with it than those who don't and that much I will concede.
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If it's a game I'm absolutely dying to play and plan on playing it immediately, I'll pay full price on it. However, 90% of new games I have some sort of interest in, I'm much more inclined to wait 2 to 6-months and pick it up for 50-75% of its original MSRP.
This goes for me too.
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I think regardless of anything related to the video game itself - $60 is a chunk of change (to earn that after income tax you’re probably going to be at your job a few hours) and games are inherently depreciating commodities so whatever the game is, it’s market price is typically going to be half or less in a couple months and with that in mind is it ever really worth getting a game for that day one price?
There’s an opportunity cost when you buy a game full retail. It’s like this game may be worth $60 - but I could have used that on any number of other things.
I only spend full retail when I’m really excited for a game and this may only occur a couple times a year.
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The last game I paid full price for was Ace Combat 7 over a year ago. And before that... maybe, Metal Gear Solid V? Haha
I think this must say a lot about what I think about paying full price for a new game nowadays...
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I'll buy certain games on day 1, usually Nintendo games as they rarely come down in price or stay at that price for a very long time.
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Generally, I'll pay full price for most games I'm interested in during the current gen. I don't have a problem paying the tab for games that really interest me. People spent a lot of time making these and they deserve their cut. If a game failed to get my hype train going though, it'll wait for a price drop down to the 50% or so mark. I'll usually grab a game during Black Friday.
I also no longer buy collector's editions or strategy guides. Uncharted 4 was a great send off to that practice. Anymore though, most collector's editions are way too expensive and generally come with useless items that will simply collect dust. If another Uncharted is released, I may be tempted depending on price and what it comes with as I already have an Uncharted nerd shelf display.
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Maybe once a year? There are so many deals constantly rotating that unless I want one specific thing (usually because I think it might eventually be hard to find) I can wait.
EDIT: Thought it was a seether repost, but its just someone rez posting one of his topics.
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I buy full price games on occasion if it's something that I'm really interested in. Looking over the stuff I've added to my collection over the past few years, I paid full price for:
- Ace Combat 7
- Hollow Knight
- Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection
- Pokemon Moon
- Shenmue I+II
- Yu Gi Oh! Legacy of the Duelist digitally on PS4
- Undertale
- A bunch of Limited Run games
But as you can see most of those are not $60 retail. I think the only one on that list that's $60 is Ace Combat 7
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Thought it was a seether repost, but its just someone rez posting one of his topics.
No, it was a repost. Mods just merged it with the previous topic.
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Thought it was a seether repost, but its just someone rez posting one of his topics.
No, it was a repost. Mods just merged it with the previous topic.
Well, I'm not losing my mind, so that's good.
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Usually it depends on the game and how it is released.
For games that LRG, Playasia, Strictly Limited and the like release, it's full price and on the day of release :)
However, i tend to wait out most games to see their market prices. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.
I manage to pick up most PS4 games for £10-£15.
There are the odd few that i pay a bit more for, but they're few and far between.
And when it comes to CE's i tend to pay full price for a new copy, never liked buying CE's second hand :p