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General and Gaming => Hardware and Tech => Topic started by: justin8301 on February 02, 2020, 04:31:37 pm
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Can anyone recommend a good replacement AC adapter for a Genesis Model 1. Everything I see on Amazon has terrible reviews, it looks like they all are a little under powered and cause a bit of interference with the video signal?
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Can anyone recommend a good replacement AC adapter for a Genesis Model 1. Everything I see on Amazon has terrible reviews, it looks like they all are a little under powered and cause a bit of interference with the video signal?
here is one I think but it don't look exactly like my own but it has 4 stars in amazon reviews (link erased)
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DO NOT use any generic three-in-one or two-in-one adaptors from eBay or Amazon, they're garbage and cause noise in the video signals and various other issues. Honestly, I would try to track down an official version by SEGA. A company named Retro-Bit sells a licensed version on their website., I can't personally speak to it's quality since it seems Retro-Bit products are hit-and-miss generally, but they do offer several other "officially licensed" Sega Genesis and Saturn products.
If you really want some high quality power, try RetroGameCave.com. They're a bit pricy, but they offer very high quality power supplies for several retro consoles, including the Model 1 Genesis.
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DO NOT use any generic three-in-one or two-in-one adaptors from eBay or Amazon, they're garbage and cause noise in the video signals and various other issues.
Yup this is exactly what I was seeing on pretty much every adapter on amazon. I did some more digging and found this thread on Atari Age (https://atariage.com/forums/topic/284653-sega-genesis-1-power-supply-comments/) which suggested this AC Adapter (https://www.arrow.com/en/products/wsu090-1300-r/triad-magnetics). I went ahead and ordered one, I'll report back here when it comes in and I test it out.
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The problem with those 3 in 1 ac adapters is that they are not transformers like the originals were. They are cheap switch mode power supplies that don’t have EMI/RFI filtering components to save on cost which causes interference in analog video and audio signals.
If basic soldering is something you can do the best option outside of tracking down a original is to just find a used DC 9-12V 1 amp transformer ac adapter and solder on a 5.5mm x 2.1mm power plug. The polarity has to be center negative outside positive.
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here is one I think but it don't look exactly like my own but it has 4 stars in amazon reviews
This is an adapter for The NES and SNES And The Sega Genesis Model one only
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Adapter-GENESIS-nintendo-entertainment-system/dp/B001S2VT6I
Hmmm... *clicks link* AGH!
My Master System came with one of those- I mean, it technically worked, I guess- but I was never, EVER comfortable with it. The thing weighs nothing- seriously, I'm 99% sure that big plug was a hollow shell to make it look like an old-school AC. It also felt very plasticy and cheap to boot. For the time I used it, I would keep a rubber balloon over the unused prong, becuase I just didn't trust it not to send power to the wrong end & start a fire or something. I have since picked up an official AC & feel a lot safer with it.
Also, as a note- when I got my Master System, it wasn't uncommon to turn it on, & have nothing happen- no picture. Just turn it off & on again, it's a finicky unit, right? Except it's all but stopped now that I've switched out the adapter. I'd say the plugs are fine as a temporary measure- if you need to see if the unit works, or it's all you've got available, they're ok. I do NOT recommend them for long-term use.
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The thing weighs nothing- seriously, I'm 99% sure that big plug was a hollow shell to make it look like an old-school AC.
Yeah I think the case is deliberate to make people think they're getting a transformer. Here's a picture of one I cracked open it's just a cheap and nasty switch mode power supply with the least amount of components possible. It's getting harder to find old school class 2 power transformers new because they're more expensive to make and are not as efficient as switch mode supplies. Switch mode supplies create a ton of electromagnetic and RF noise as a byproduct of how they regulate voltage and need components like chokes and inductors to filter it out of it's output. Most things nowadays are digital and aren't effected by unfiltered voltage so a lot of low end manufacturers will leave these components out to save money.
(https://i.imgur.com/KBfvnpH.jpg?1)
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All good advice as far as sticking to original equipment as much as possible. I recently ordered my second Sega 3025-1 adapter for my Famicom. The first one has that classic "only works when cord in certain position" issue. Once I have a consistent known working one I will attempt to repair the first. Don't get me wrong, generics work in a pinch. In addition to image "warbling" I find that newer aftermarkets can also cause audio buzzing.
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Can anyone recommend a good replacement AC adapter for a Genesis Model 1. Everything I see on Amazon has terrible reviews, it looks like they all are a little under powered and cause a bit of interference with the video signal?
No flea markets around that might have a spare MK-1602?
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Can anyone recommend a good replacement AC adapter for a Genesis Model 1. Everything I see on Amazon has terrible reviews, it looks like they all are a little under powered and cause a bit of interference with the video signal?
No flea markets around that might have a spare MK-1602?
I got a working official AC adapter when I purchased a Sega Genesis model 1 console last month. If your wondering about the cheap one I linked I use that one a few times also. Currently just on my At Games Genesis.
Did you try looking into buying a spare Genesis model 1 console? because It may come with a working official Sega AC Adapter, never know :-\
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The thing to be aware of is that Sega had transitioned from using center negative to center positive adapters during the Genesis lifespan. This breaks down in two sets of compatibility:
Center negative adapters
Sega Master System
Sega Master System 2
Sega Genesis / Mega Drive model 1
Sega Mega-CD / Sega CD model 1
Sega Mega-CD 2 / Sega CD model 2
Sega Game Gear EU/JP
Center positive adapters
Sega Mega Drive 2 / Genesis model 2
Sega Genesis 3
Sega 32X
Sega Multi-Mega / CDX
Sega Nomad
Sega Game Gear US
So if you have a Genesis model 1, you can use any center negative adapter from the other consoles. You SHOULD NOT use a center positive adapter on a Genesis model 1. Note that the Genesis (either model 1 or 2, but perhaps not all model 1 revisions) is resilient to using the wrong adapter. This is not the case regarding the Master System. Using a center positive adapter on a Master System will kill the 7805 voltage regulator.
See this site for a list of official power adapters and their compatibilities:
https://gametrog.com/how-which-do-i-need-sega-ac-power-supply-information-specs-model-mk-3025-mk-1602-mk-2103-mk-1479-mk-4122-aa-s95j/
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The Center positive adapters plugs are actually a different size than the the center negative ac adapters.
Center negative 2.1mm x 5.5mm
Center positive 1.7mm x 4.75mm (This size usually has a yellow tip)
Sega deliberately made the later plug sizes smaller when they changed polarity on the Sega 2 onward so they wouldn't fit each other and prevent reverse polarity damage.
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The Triad power adapter I ordered came in last night. Won't get to test it till this weekend but just holding it I can already tell its like 1000% better than any of the stuff I could have gotten off Amazon/Ebay
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Probably not super helpful, but a Turbografx 16 power supply will work in a model 1 Genesis.
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Probably not super helpful, but a Turbografx 16 power supply will work in a model 1 Genesis.
Lol I unfortunately do not own a Turbografx 16, however I really do appreciate the help though!
On another note, the Triad power adapters I ordered came in and they work flawlessly. I spent yesterday really putting my genesis through its paces and it held up, no weird noise like you get from those universal adapters at all. If anyone else is looking for a replacement for their Gen Model 1, this is the one to get https://www.arrow.com/en/products/wsu090-1300-r/triad-magnetics
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I am not sure why people are being so difficult and suggesting dumb things like cutting China pride cables and soldering new ends on them. It's no wonder why so many house fires happen and consoles blow their fuses.
The Sega MK-1602 power supply is what shipped with the model 1 Genesis. Go on eBay and buy one. It takes 10 seconds. Do not use Amazon. Never use 3rd party or multi-format adapters. They are cheap junk and will burn out (or burn your house down). I had a cheap NES one 10 years ago. It melted and shorted out my power strip and would have started a fire if I wasn't sitting right there to smell and see the smoke.
I always use official OEM hardware and it never fails and always works. Having the original hardware also improves the value of the console when sold. There is absolutely no sense in using Chia pride junk with narrow low gauge wire and quality that will not last beyond a year. They are cheap for a reason.
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I am not sure why people are being so difficult and suggesting dumb things like cutting China pride cables and soldering new ends on them. It's no wonder why so many house fires happen and consoles blow their fuses.
The Sega MK-1602 power supply is what shipped with the model 1 Genesis. Go on eBay and buy one. It takes 10 seconds. Do not use Amazon. Never use 3rd party or multi-format adapters. They are cheap junk and will burn out (or burn your house down). I had a cheap NES one 10 years ago. It melted and shorted out my power strip and would have started a fire if I wasn't sitting right there to smell and see the smoke.
I always use official OEM hardware and it never fails and always works. Having the original hardware also improves the value of the console when sold. There is absolutely no sense in using Chia pride junk with narrow low gauge wire and quality that will not last beyond a year. They are cheap for a reason.
Those 3 in 1 adapters are shit everybody here already knows that. You can find new high quality transformers and SMPS that would be incredibly more safer and reliable that a 30+ year old transformer that has god knows how many hours of operation on it. People never seem to think about how old and how much use this equipment has on it now and that it’s not going to last forever.
It’s perfectly safe to install your own connector tips on a power supply. The Genesis has a 7805 voltage regulator that drops any DC voltage you feed it between 8-16 volts down to 5V that the console actually runs on. As long as the adapter is between 8-16V DC and can supply at least 1 amp and you don’t get the polarity wrong it’s fine.
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All good advice as far as sticking to original equipment as much as possible. I recently ordered my second Sega 3025-1 adapter for my Famicom. The first one has that classic "only works when cord in certain position" issue. Once I have a consistent known working one I will attempt to repair the first. Don't get me wrong, generics work in a pinch. In addition to image "warbling" I find that newer aftermarkets can also cause audio buzzing.
I did fix that first adapter by ordering a replacement cord from consule5.com Let me tell you those old adapters are tough to open!