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Title: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 04, 2020, 08:10:59 am
Figured it might be fun to just have some casual Star Wars talk about whatever with the date as it is.  I know the Clone Wars show just finished it's last season this past week (I still need to watch it), there's some good toys coming out, and Battlefront 2 just released it's last big update. 

Let's not turn this into arguing about stuff with the recent trilogy, it won't be useful for anyone, this is here just to talk about anything we enjoy with Star Wars and about stuff coming up like The Mandalorian new seasons, there's the Rogue One prequel series happening, we can talk about games, or toys, or even the books as I know they were starting a new series with the "High Republic" time period which is set only a few centuries before The Phantom Menace compared to the "Old Republic", which was a few thousand years before the current story stuff.

I'm planning to start back into the Rebels cartoon, finishing that up as I was coming up on the last season I believe, and then I'll get into Clone Wars.  Sorta watching it backwards I guess since Rebels is after Clone and it has characters from Clone showing up in Rebels lol

And with one more thing to add, here's my current batch of Black Series 6" figures.  I'm waiting on my Baby Yoda, and Sith Jet Trooper at the moment which are supposed to release this month, and then I have the Carbonized Stormtrooper and Boba Fett on pre-order.  Honestly too many stormtroopers coming out right now with two more Force Unleashed ones happening, and then they just announced a "Mandalorian/Rogue One" Stormtrooper, but it's mostly just an update of the classic figure which should have some slightly better articulation and it has some slight mold tweaks, but I'll probably pass on it since it is just a plain Stormtrooper lol

(https://i.imgur.com/5a9VB8n.jpg)
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: Cartagia on May 04, 2020, 09:36:06 am
I actually spent a huge chunk of the weekend a couple of weeks ago finally getting around to getting myself a copy of the Despecialized Trilogy.  I never do much for May 4 (the pun is cute, but Star Wars day should absolutely be May 25 to correlate with the release date), but I think I may actually have that be what is playing in the background during my work from home today.  I previously had a personal rip that I had created from my VHS copies, and that was charming, but these things look so danged good.  The first thing I did once I had the first film finished was watch Han shoot first.  It was glorious.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: mark1982 on May 04, 2020, 10:31:46 pm
Black Series figures are growing kamikaze, heh.

I still can't find the Mandalorean figure, maybe one day I'll find it like how I found a masked Kylo out of the blue ;D

I have a few set up recently too, I should take some pics when I'm free.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 04, 2020, 10:52:21 pm
I'm actually taking a needed break from Star Wars.


Even though the last two bits of Star Wars I experienced, Jedi Fallen Order and The Mandelorian, were awesome, I feel like I've been consumed by way too much negativity surrounding the franchise for far too long. This has resulted in me having a hard time even enjoying the parts of Star Wars that I've always loved. A lot of this negativity is warranted and deserved, however it wasn't doing me any favors as a fan and was ruining my entire feelings towards the franchise. So instead of saying to hell with Star Wars I've decided to not watch, play, read or do anything Star Wars related until I can return to the parts of the franchise I love with a sense of awe and excitement I once used to have for it. I don't now how long this will last, but I've pretty much been Star Wars free since the start of the new year. I'm willing to be patient if it means retaining my fandom and love for the franchise though.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 04, 2020, 10:55:46 pm
Black Series figures are growing kamikaze, heh.

I still can't find the Mandalorean figure, maybe one day I'll find it like how I found a masked Kylo out of the blue ;D

I have a few set up recently too, I should take some pics when I'm free.

I missed the first wave on the Mando, so I basically sat on a pre-order for new stock with it for months till I finally got it in.  I'm waiting for the little Baby Yoda to ship right now.  I mostly just need a couple particular figures at the moment for my set, like I'm not trying to hard for Clone Wars era stuff, I was never the biggest fan of their design, though the moment they release a Republic Commando, I'll be there to buy any and every one they release lol

Oh and to add to the new news for Star Wars, Taika Waititi is now getting to make his own Star Wars movie and I'm pretty excited for it.  I'm hoping it's completely stand alone and has very little to do with established story stuff, much like Mandalorian, so I'm excited.  For those that don't know him, he directed the finale of Mandalorian and was the voice of IG-11 in it too.  He's directed some great films with What We Do In The Shadows, Thor Ragnarok, and Jojo Rabbit, so I'm really hopeful for this film.

https://www.starwars.com/news/taika-waititi-announce
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: 98dgreen on May 04, 2020, 11:07:57 pm
Just watched Episode IX.  I was surprised that it was significantly worse then Episode VIII.  After having seen all the Star Wars I can now order them from best to worst.  Rouge One>Return of the Jedi>Empire Strikes Back>Star Wars>Revenge of the Sith>Phantom Menace>Force Awakens>Solo>Last Jedi>Rise of Skywalker>Attack of the Clones
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on May 05, 2020, 01:21:51 am
I still find it hard to enjoy the new stuff, as besides all the other gripes with VII-IX, I'm just not feeling the spark of excitement when it comes to the new stuff. So, instead I've mainly been focusing on filling out my Legends library, by picking up the remaining books as I whittle down my reading backlog. I'm also focusing on getting some of the older toys, not the original original stuff, but more the things I never got when I was younger.

What's really on my radar right now is the Lego UCS A-Wing, which is just gorgeous, but I need to hold back, as I just got the ISS set and Cobi's Battleship Yamoto set, so I need to get those done first.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 05, 2020, 02:05:14 am
While Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are messes story wise, I did enjoy Rogue One, Solo, and of course Mandalorian quite abit, alongside Fallen Order, so I've been pretty satisfied with Star Wars lately.  I liked Skywalker a lot more than Last Jedi, even if it's the messier film story wise, mostly just for the action and scifi stuff, that's all good, it's story is just bad trying to stuff 2 movies worth of content into one film to make up for Last Jedi.

I've been tempted to grab a nice Star Wars lego set myself, I haven't had lego's in years just because the nice sets are very costly, but been thinking of looking around for something lately, just not sure what.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: mark1982 on May 05, 2020, 02:11:28 am
Black Series figures are growing kamikaze, heh.

I still can't find the Mandalorean figure, maybe one day I'll find it like how I found a masked Kylo out of the blue ;D

I have a few set up recently too, I should take some pics when I'm free.

I missed the first wave on the Mando, so I basically sat on a pre-order for new stock with it for months till I finally got it in.  I'm waiting for the little Baby Yoda to ship right now.  I mostly just need a couple particular figures at the moment for my set, like I'm not trying to hard for Clone Wars era stuff, I was never the biggest fan of their design, though the moment they release a Republic Commando, I'll be there to buy any and every one they release lol


I agree, I'm not a fan of the Clone War Era stuff either, so I only have a select few of the Black Series. Here's what I have setup at the moment, the black R2-D2 is actually R2-Q5 from a Japanese collectible company - Kotobukiya.


(https://i.imgur.com/exeVEq4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vl2aKLM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4pDYpIp.jpg)


Baby Yoda sounds like a fun little figure to have, heh ;D I have a few more bounty hunters like IG-88, Bossk and Greedo but didn't display them since I'm running out of room on my Star Wars Shelf :'(

Happy Collecting!
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on May 05, 2020, 02:17:34 am
I've been tempted to grab a nice Star Wars lego set myself, I haven't had lego's in years just because the nice sets are very costly, but been thinking of looking around for something lately, just not sure what.

If you want a good looking one that's not too costly (~$50-60), I'd suggest the Resistance Y-Wing or one of the helmet replicas.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 05, 2020, 02:55:50 am
I've been tempted to grab a nice Star Wars lego set myself, I haven't had lego's in years just because the nice sets are very costly, but been thinking of looking around for something lately, just not sure what.

If you want a good looking one that's not too costly (~$50-60), I'd suggest the Resistance Y-Wing or one of the helmet replicas.

Yeah that's the range I'm considering for one right now, I'm gonna head to Target this week and browse what they got available, I'm probably gonna say I'm gonna go for a ship, just need to see what jumps out at me.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: Cartagia on May 05, 2020, 06:24:06 am
I've been tempted to grab a nice Star Wars lego set myself, I haven't had lego's in years just because the nice sets are very costly, but been thinking of looking around for something lately, just not sure what.

If you want a good looking one that's not too costly (~$50-60), I'd suggest the Resistance Y-Wing or one of the helmet replicas.

Yeah that's the range I'm considering for one right now, I'm gonna head to Target this week and browse what they got available, I'm probably gonna say I'm gonna go for a ship, just need to see what jumps out at me.

The classic Snowspeeder set was $22 over the holidays and I’m still kicking myself for not picking it up.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 05, 2020, 08:01:37 pm
The classic Snowspeeder set was $22 over the holidays and I’m still kicking myself for not picking it up.

Crap, I would've bought that had I known lol
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on May 05, 2020, 08:42:57 pm
A relative of mine who grew up in the 1970's and 1980's mentioned a Star Wars Movie that was made a long time ago that he claimed nobody talks about or even mentions anymore.

Does anyone on here know or can recall a Star Wars Christmas movie special. Where all the characters of the star wars series visited Chewy's parents and had Christmas with all them? I don't know anything about this movie but most don't seem to remember this movie,

here I googled this now and found the following and apparently nobody liked this movie it's got a one star rating

The Star Wars Holiday Special is a 1978 American television special set in the universe of the Star Wars science-fiction media franchise. ...
In the storyline that ties the special together, following the events of the original film, Chewbacca and Han Solo attempt to visit the Wookiee home world to celebrate "Life Day".
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 05, 2020, 08:46:02 pm
A relative of mine who grew up in the 1970's and 1980's mentioned a Star Wars Movie that was made a long time ago that he claimed nobody talks about or even mentions anymore.

Does anyone on here know or can recall a Star Wars Christmas movie special. Where all the characters of the star wars series visited Chewy's parents and had Christmas with all them? I don't know anything about this movie but most don't seem to remember this movie,

here I googled this now and found the following and apparently nobody liked this movie it's got a one star rating

The Star Wars Holiday Special is a 1978 American television special set in the universe of the Star Wars science-fiction media franchise. ...
In the storyline that ties the special together, following the events of the original film, Chewbacca and Han Solo attempt to visit the Wookiee home world to celebrate "Life Day".


I've never watched it fully, just clips from people talking about it online and it's really bad.  If there was ever truly something that was the worst piece of official Star Wars media, it has to be that lol
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on May 06, 2020, 12:51:15 am
While the holiday special was not good, it still brought Chewie's family into the mix, and they got used in other, much better stories, like A.C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy (Oh, why couldn't Solo been an adaptation of those?), and the Chewbacca comic.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: Cartagia on May 06, 2020, 11:46:21 am
The classic Snowspeeder set was $22 over the holidays and I’m still kicking myself for not picking it up.

Crap, I would've bought that had I known lol

Looks like the A-Wing is $24 today

https://kinjadeals.theinventory.com/best-lego-deals-1843034525?ks=nativestream
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 06, 2020, 11:55:57 am
The classic Snowspeeder set was $22 over the holidays and I’m still kicking myself for not picking it up.

Crap, I would've bought that had I known lol

Looks like the A-Wing is $24 today

https://kinjadeals.theinventory.com/best-lego-deals-1843034525?ks=nativestream

Was not the biggest fan of the A-Wing, I always preferred a lot of the other ships to that, but I was tempted to grab it, but it's already sold out of the cheap ones lol
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 12, 2020, 10:59:39 pm
I re-watched the first 3 primary movie episodes yesterday in order and I found them all to be great in-spite of what people tend to think about them. Star Wars Episode II the movie is highly underrated in my opinion especially when you watch each part of the main story, right after each other.

EP II Attack Of The Clones has some great story and dialogue, but action is where it somewhat lacks. it is where Anakin Skywalker later known as Darth Vader  is in his prime, and is still Jedi Knight, many people might want to re-watch EP II Attack Of The Clones once again. If you can dig the intense story and dialogue it is really a great movie. I plan on watching EP IV V VI and all the new ones soon as I can find them. then I plan on watching the newer movies starting with Star Wars EP VII VIII IX and the rest of the story
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: Cartagia on September 12, 2020, 11:32:25 pm
Sorry, oldgamerz, but Episode II is notorious for having the worst dialogue in the entire series.

"I don't like sand.  It's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere."  Lines so bad they've become their own memes.

That's not to say you are wrong for enjoying it - there are moments in there I like, too - notably Detective Obi-Wan and Obi vs. Jango on Kamino.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 12, 2020, 11:53:59 pm
Sorry, oldgamerz, but Episode II is notorious for having the worst dialogue in the entire series.

"I don't like sand.  It's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere."  Lines so bad they've become their own memes.

That's not to say you are wrong for enjoying it - there are moments in there I like, too - notably Detective Obi-Wan and Obi vs. Jango on Kamino.

yes it does have bad lines and some of the acting was not the best,  :)

A lot of the movie revolves around the Star Wars Politics, and EP2 didn't have that much action compared to the others I watched, but I liked all three.

Out of all 1st three episodes Episode III had the most action. In which in that movie Anakin Skywalker Starts to go to the dark side of the force and the movie end with him becoming Darth Vader. It's a vary great story so far. :)
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on September 13, 2020, 12:17:48 am
Just gotta point out that Anakin's still a Padawan in Episode II. It's during the first Clone Wars cartoon that he ascends to knighthood.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 13, 2020, 01:07:45 am
After re-watching the series over the past few years, I can't watch the first two anymore.  Episode 1 has nothing in it for me other than the pod racing scene and Episode 2 has a couple alright parts strewn about, but there is just not enough consistency to keep me interested watching the whole film again.  Episode 3 is actually a good film and I can see watching that one again someday whenever I get around to another series re-watch.  People can certainly enjoy the prequels, I have family that does, it's just not for me and the movies only get less watchable the more I see them lol

I've thought about doing another go through of the series again after I'm done with my Marvel MCU run.  Been such a big Marvel kick lately for me that I could use a new series to dive into, so maybe next month I'll start watching the movies again since that Star Wars: Squadrons game is coming out and also season 2 of The Mandalorian.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: 98dgreen on September 13, 2020, 07:06:39 pm
I re-watched the first 3 primary movie episodes yesterday in order and I found them all to be great in-spite of what people tend to think about them. Star Wars Episode II the movie is highly underrated in my opinion especially when you watch each part of the main story, right after each other.

EP II Attack Of The Clones has some great story and dialogue, but action is where it somewhat lacks. it is where Anakin Skywalker later known as Darth Vader  is in his prime, and is still Jedi Knight, many people might want to re-watch EP II Attack Of The Clones once again. If you can dig the intense story and dialogue it is really a great movie. I plan on watching EP IV V VI and all the new ones soon as I can find them. then I plan on watching the newer movies starting with Star Wars EP VII VIII IX and the rest of the story
Attack of the Clones is the worst Star Wars movie.

Also, I finished the Clone Wars TV show after only watching the first 3 seasons previously and aside from a few episodes in the final season it was really good.  I am going to watch the Rebels tv show and hope that it is decent.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: ferraroso on September 13, 2020, 07:51:02 pm
I used to hate Episodes IIIIII, but after watching what Disney gave us (with the sole exception of Rogue One) I now find the prequel trilogy to be a masterpiece.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: 98dgreen on September 13, 2020, 08:18:36 pm
I used to hate Episodes IIIIII, but after watching what Disney gave us (with the sole exception of Rogue One) I now find the prequel trilogy to be a masterpiece.
Yeah I like Episode 1 a lot more than I used too.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 13, 2020, 10:27:06 pm
I re-watched the first 3 primary movie episodes yesterday in order and I found them all to be great in-spite of what people tend to think about them. Star Wars Episode II the movie is highly underrated in my opinion especially when you watch each part of the main story, right after each other.

EP II Attack Of The Clones has some great story and dialogue, but action is where it somewhat lacks. it is where Anakin Skywalker later known as Darth Vader  is in his prime, and is still Jedi Knight, many people might want to re-watch EP II Attack Of The Clones once again. If you can dig the intense story and dialogue it is really a great movie. I plan on watching EP IV V VI and all the new ones soon as I can find them. then I plan on watching the newer movies starting with Star Wars EP VII VIII IX and the rest of the story
Attack of the Clones is the worst Star Wars movie.

Also, I finished the Clone Wars TV show after only watching the first 3 seasons previously and aside from a few episodes in the final season it was really good.  I am going to watch the Rebels tv show and hope that it is decent.

Episode II has got more talking then action, which is why I don't think many people like it.

if you listen to all the talking in Episode I, then watch and listen to episode II story (right after), it's better. But to watch lets say Episode II by itself, without remembering the talking in the 1st episode, It's not going to be enjoyable in my opinion. It's more for the hard core star wars audience to like I guess.

Also for future reference everyone should read the entry text, for every stars wars movie to get what is happening

The worst part of episode 2 I think was the love scene already mentioned above, I got vary board with that but I kept in there

(right around this part)

"I don't like sand.  It's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere."  Lines so bad they've become their own memes.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on September 14, 2020, 01:07:22 am
I used to hate Episodes IIIIII, but after watching what Disney gave us (with the sole exception of Rogue One) I now find the prequel trilogy to be a masterpiece.
Yeah I like Episode 1 a lot more than I used too.

Yep. What also got me to enjoy Episode 1 more was the Darth Plagueis novel, as it's effectively a Rashomon story for Episode 1, showing what the Sith were up to during the events of the movie and actually better explaining the political parts from the movie.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 14, 2020, 02:28:27 am
I just watched "Rouge One: A Star Wars Story" It was great!!  before I watched it I looked it up and to my surprise I had this movie. and didn't realize it was a Prequel to Episode IV A New Hope I am going to watch episode IV next

I need to do a series re-run and watch the prequel to Rouge One in which is called "Solo: A Star Wars Story"

Here is the movies (not series) according to the story of Star Wars is and how it progresses in movie form

1: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
2: Star Wars Episode II: The Attack of The Clones
3: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith
4: Solo: A Star Wars Story
5: Rouge One: A Star Wars Story
6: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
7: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
8: Star Wars Episode VI: The Return Of The Jedi
9: Star Wars: The Force Awakens
10: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
11: Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker

Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 14, 2020, 02:31:21 am
I used to hate Episodes IIIIII, but after watching what Disney gave us (with the sole exception of Rogue One) I now find the prequel trilogy to be a masterpiece.
Yeah I like Episode 1 a lot more than I used too.

Yep. What also got me to enjoy Episode 1 more was the Darth Plagueis novel, as it's effectively a Rashomon story for Episode 1, showing what the Sith were up to during the events of the movie and actually better explaining the political parts from the movie.

is the Darth Plagueis novel, the prequel story before "Star Wars Episode I:The Phantom Menace?"
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on September 14, 2020, 04:03:25 am
Not quite. It chronicles the life of Darth Plagueis, and spans from about 40 years before Episode I up to about the end of the movie.

Star Wars has a pretty hefty expanded universe, which is divided into 2 separate timelines, Legends and the Disney canon. When Disney bought Star Wars, they decided to wipe the slate clean and make their own stories rather than building upon existing works. What's true for one timeline will not be the same in the other. The only shared canon would be Episodes I-VI, The Clone Wars CGI cartoon, and Rebels.
So for example, in the Disney Timeline, Han and Leia had 1 kid, Ben Solo, who was born about 4 years after Episode VI. Whereas in Legends, they had 3 kids. First the twins Jacen and Jaina, who were born about 8 years after Episode VI, then Anakin Solo was born about 2 years later.

If you want a just of the timeline of the books for Legends, it'd look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/0K70T1Z.jpg)

It may look daunting, but it doesn't need to be read in chronological order. The most popular starting points tend to be the Thrawn Trilogy, the Darth Bane Trilogy, and the X-Wing series.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 14, 2020, 05:13:40 am
Wow that must A HUGE amount of story. :o  I knew already that Star Wars story was built upon a series of books. What I didn't know was how much came before and after what the movies covered, I figured that Episode 1 was not the beginning of the Star Wars Storyline. But I was not sure.

Thank you for this information emporerdragon  :)

Now is Star Wars "Dawn Of The Jedi" where the story begins?

(edit) I just did some research and it appears that there was a comic book series, I never knew that what is confusing to me is that I don't know where the story began I can't find any more information about the story :-[

Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 05:40:42 am
I read the whole New Jedi Order series years ago and I just loved the Yuuzhan Vong War, it was such a completely different thing to introduce to Star Wars.  I think I read a lot of what came afterwards too, but I forget where I stopped reading, I think it was around Fate of the Jedi, it's been awhile since then.  That was like a year or so of reading I got super into lol Would be awesome if someday they started like a "Star Wars Legends" animated series that would let them adapt that stuff so they could get more of the Skywalker and family stuff people wanted with the new trilogy.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: emporerdragon on September 14, 2020, 05:57:11 am
Keep in mind that that's just the novels. It's not showing on the timeline where all the shows, comics, games, sourcebooks, and other media fit in.

Dawn of the Jedi would be the book that takes place the earliest chronologically (Parts of other media do flashback or reference events even earlier), but I wouldn't really treat the entire mythos as a singular story. Instead, it should be broken down into smaller parts of a shared universe, like how Coruscant Nights tells the story of Jax Pavan or how the New Jedi Order novels tell the story of the Yuuzhan Vong War.
You don't need to read everything in the order they are presented in the timeline. Instead, after watching the movies, decide what you want more of and go from there. For instance, if you like the clone troopers, you read the Republic Commando novels, or if you want to know what happens immediately after Episode VI, then Truce at Bakura. You can pretty much jump in wherever (though I'd suggest avoiding jumping into the middle books of a trilogy or subseries).

And I wouldn't suggest reading the entire thing anyways, some of the stuff can be rather bad, like you haven't lost much if you never read The Crystal Star or The Glove of Darth Vader. If you want to dip your toes into the EU, as I mentioned earlier, the Thrawn and Darth Bane trilogies are the best starts. If you want a one-off novel, then go with something like Scoundrels, Shadows of the Empire, one of the "Tales From" books, or the Episode III novelization instead.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 06:11:01 am
Another book I remember reading and enjoying was "Death Troopers".  I'm into interesting zombie setups and having Star Wars zombies is certainly new lol

(https://comicbookjesus.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/book.jpg)
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: pzeke on September 14, 2020, 11:33:08 am
...the Disney canon...

(https://i.imgur.com/nKwDfC3.png)
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 14, 2020, 12:53:53 pm
Is the Disney Canon Bad? I never watched the new trilogy yet. Because I'm waiting to see those after I re-watch episode IV, V, and, VI vary soon.

I hope their is not any singing in them like there was in the Disney cartoons growing up, and I hope it's not going to be for like for 5 year old where everything being meant for young children. When all the action and war features are taken away, like the lasers, and the explosions all the rest of them had.

I will admit Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace does make me feel uncomfortable because of the childhood Disney like atmosphere revolving Ja Ja Binks. I just hope the Disney cannon has action instead of being a childs movie.

Because all the rest of the Star Wars Movies I seen so far I,II, III, IV, V, VI, are about a war not really kids movies, but I will admit Rouge One Was Great So I don't know until I watch the rest of the Disney ones I guess. ::)
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: redblaze57 on September 14, 2020, 12:59:24 pm
Is the Disney Canon Bad?

It's really coming into the light that Disney had no Idea what they were doing.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: Cartagia on September 14, 2020, 02:35:05 pm
Is the Disney Canon Bad?

It's really coming into the light that Disney had no Idea what they were doing.

And that's not to say that Disney hasn't put out some good stuff.  The movies are definitely divisive, but for my money The Mandalorian is the best thing SW has done since Return of the Jedi
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 03:14:43 pm
I'll still take the Disney movies over Episode 1 and 2 any day of the week, no contest, no hesitation, but they definitely had no real plan which is its greatest failing.  It's absolutely the weakest trilogy of the three because of that, but I can easily watch them even if I have some issues with Episode 8 and Episode 9.

I hope their is not any singing in them like there was in the Disney cartoons growing up, and I hope it's not going to be for like for 5 year old where everything being meant for young children. When all the action and war features are taken away, like the lasers, and the explosions all the rest of them had.

I will admit Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace does make me feel uncomfortable because of the childhood Disney like atmosphere revolving Ja Ja Binks. I just hope the Disney cannon has action instead of being a childs movie.

Because all the rest of the Star Wars Movies I seen so far I,II, III, IV, V, VI, are about a war not really kids movies, but I will admit Rouge One Was Great So I don't know until I watch the rest of the Disney ones I guess. ::)

People just have issues with the writing, they aren't to kiddy or anything, they still have a lot of action and everything that Star Wars is known for.  Force Awakens, Rogue One, and Solo are good and The Mandalorian is definitely the best thing that's been done since the original trilogy.
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Post by: pzeke on September 14, 2020, 03:35:53 pm
The Disney canon was just bad, period. It doesn't take Boyega voicing his dissatisfaction, much less Olaf asking Ridley that one question that lead us further down the rabbit hole—it was an utter clusterfuck from the very beginning as far as we've seen. Let's not forget Hamill wasn't happy with how Disney was treating Star Wars from the get-go, and one could even say he was warning everyone. Also, Lucas wasn't happy either given Disney decided to not use the scripts he had for the sequel trilogy. What's worse about that last part is Kathleen Kennedy going on record many times saying Lucas never wrote any scripts, throwing the man under the bus.

Other than how Disney disparaged the franchise, for me what's worse about it all is the fact that The Last Jedi was Carrie Fisher's last film.

Out of all the Star Wars films Disney shat out, Rogue One is literally the only good one...but then again, it was written and directed quite competently. I'll gladly take the prequel trilogy over the sequel trilogy any time. Personal opinion before feathers get ruffled.
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Post by: emporerdragon on September 14, 2020, 04:12:49 pm
I think what I dislike the most about the disney stuff is how shallow it is. It's heavy on action and set design, but incredibly light on worldbuilding and character development. At times, it feels more like an old saturday morning cartoon where the good guys win because they're the good guys.

Take the Empire. In the Disney canon, after Episode VI, they suffered loss after loss until a complete defeat 1 year later where they lost practically the entire fleet in a single battle. They then managed to secretly rebuild and then take over the galaxy 30 years later until they were defeated and lost the entire fleet in a single battle. Meanwhile in the Legends timeline, the Empire, under the command of what was left of the Admiralty and high command, continued a long, bloody war with the fledgling New Republic that spanned 20 years before peace was declared. During this, there were also breakaway empires, such as the one under Warlord Zsinj which were also credible threats. And in the end, the Empire survived, and while diminished in territory, remained a military and economic powerhouse in the Galaxy. They even merged with the New Republic for a time during and after the Yuuzhan Vong war becoming the Galactic Federation.

Another thing I disliked was how the Disney stuff basically made all the hero's accomplishments of the original trilogy feel worthless. In Episode 7, Han's a sad, washed up smuggler, Leia's a sad military commander watching everything slowly fall apart, and Luke's a sad, miserable hobo hermit. All their heroics amounted to nothing in the end. Meanwhile at the same point in time in the Legends timeline, Han and Leia are still happily married, Han's a decorated General and War Hero of the New Republic, Leia's still very active in politics, even assuming the role of chancellor for a while, and is a full-fledged Jedi Knight, and Luke had successfully rebuilt the Jedi Order and even has a wife and son.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 05:05:29 pm
To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: oldgamerz on September 14, 2020, 05:53:20 pm
I'll still take the Disney movies over Episode 1 and 2 any day of the week, no contest, no hesitation, but they definitely had no real plan which is its greatest failing.  It's absolutely the weakest trilogy of the three because of that, but I can easily watch them even if I have some issues with Episode 8 and Episode 9.

People just have issues with the writing, they aren't to kiddy or anything, they still have a lot of action and everything that Star Wars is known for.  Force Awakens, Rogue One, and Solo are good and The Mandalorian is definitely the best thing that's been done since the original trilogy.

It's good to know that the Disney Star Wars are liked by someone, I mean it give me more confidence that since I bascally liked  EPI EP2, EP3 Rouge One IV V VI   I am now confident that the Disney movies are not that bad, I'll watch them soon to make my own opinion :)
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Post by: pzeke on September 14, 2020, 06:02:57 pm
To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q

(https://i.imgur.com/4MUJ2rX.gif)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 06:31:59 pm
It's good to know that the Disney Star Wars are liked by someone, I mean it give me more confidence that since I bascally liked  EPI EP2, EP3 Rouge One IV V VI   I am now confident that the Disney movies are not that bad, I'll watch them soon to make my own opinion :)

There are plenty of people that do like the films, not everyone hates them, I'm in that inbetween space of the fandom where I still find them very watchable for the action and just general Star Wars stuff, even if the trilogy is an absolute mess due to poor planning.  The Force Awakens is probably the best one of the 3 since it's the most well rounded of them, even if it's mostly a rehash of the original film.  Just keep an open mind going into them, it's real easy to fall into both the hype and the negativity of things, especially with all the opinions out there about them this long past their releases.  It's totally fine if you don't like them or if you actually do like them, there's no real wrong answer here.

To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q

(https://i.imgur.com/4MUJ2rX.gif)

Denial of what?  Just trying to move the conversation along abit more to something more productive since the thread could just devolve into more Disney Star Wars trilogy bashing, which has been done to death at this point in other threads about the movies.  That was sorta the point of this thread to begin with and I kinda slipped into that abit with my Prequel talk which I'm trying to do abit less...plus that's just a good CG short I posted.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: pzeke on September 14, 2020, 06:55:36 pm
Loosen your sphincter, dude, it was a joke.
Title: Re: May the 4th Be With You! (Random Star Wars Talk)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 14, 2020, 08:12:05 pm
Loosen your sphincter, dude, it was a joke.

It's fine, tone is just hard to get across at times on the web.
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Post by: emporerdragon on September 15, 2020, 12:30:48 am
To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q
I will say I'm genuinely excited for Squadrons. X-Wing and TIE Fighter were some of the defining games of my childhood, and if this game can capture that essence, I'm all for it.

Though, I still like this TIE Fighter short better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
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Post by: ferraroso on September 15, 2020, 08:36:34 pm
To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q

I'm not following the news on this game very activelly, so my question may be a little off, but does anyone know whether this game is going to be a more single player focused story driven thing (like an Ace Combat in the Star Wars universe) or will it be one more online multiplayer mess?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 15, 2020, 10:43:12 pm
To move away from the more negative talk about stuff, and bring some fun back in, they put out a CG short that's a lead in to the new Squadrons game coming up and it's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2VmOqjV_7Q

I'm not following the news on this game very activelly, so my question may be a little off, but does anyone know whether this game is going to be a more single player focused story driven thing (like an Ace Combat in the Star Wars universe) or will it be one more online multiplayer mess?

It's both, it's got a singleplayer story to follow and a 5 v 5 dogfight multiplayer.
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Post by: ferraroso on September 16, 2020, 12:34:42 am
Thanks for the answer!

5 v 5 dogfight multiplayer.

Nah... I'll pass then...
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Post by: pzeke on September 16, 2020, 07:01:16 am
5 v 5 dogfight multiplayer.

Nah... I'll pass then...

Such an impeccable display of selective reading—sublime.

Bravissimo.
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Post by: oldgamerz on September 16, 2020, 07:55:19 am
(My Star Wars Movie Status Update)

I only have positive things to say about what I've seen so far.
I just re-watched Star Wars Episode IV, V, VI, and watched episode VII, and VIII, for the vary first time ever.

I like each movie the same way, in my heart
. But I have not watched, "The Rise Of Skywalker" or the Prequel to "Rouge One" yet. But I will. The Last Jedi (for example) is not bad, in my opinion. but I can see why someone could dislike it. In my own opinion, It's better to watch these movies, in order of the story and to remember what happened earlier in the story. And listen and remember as much about the story as possible.

This is my first attempt to watch and pay attention to everything in all movies made, so far.

Yes some original hero characters do die off, In the new movies. But that is all I'm saying in to avoid spoilers. And most of the earlier Star Wars Movies did have main characters dying off both heroes and villains It's called Star Wars

I will admit I have not been into, or (even liked watching) any movies in years. I have probably only seen one full movie in years. Before trying re-watching all of the Star Wars Movies in order. And breaching out to the new movies. This is a great story I have no complaints about any of the movies I've seen so far. :-\

What got me into watching and re-watching Star Wars Period, is the fact that found a bunch of them for sale at a local store. and my mom pointed them out to me. and I always wanted to see the movies (from the beginning) but never thought about it in years.
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Post by: oldgamerz on September 16, 2020, 08:07:37 am
As for Star Wars Video Games I need to play more of them in the future, I haven't beaten any Star Wars Video game yet :-\
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Post by: emporerdragon on September 16, 2020, 11:38:50 am
As for Star Wars Video Games I need to play more of them in the future, I haven't beaten any Star Wars Video game yet :-\

Based off of some of the other games you've talked about, start with Dark Forces. It's a FPS game along the same playstyle as Duke Nukem 3D and would be the Legends equivalent of Rogue One, as it's about stealing the Death Star plans. The game's sequels are the Jedi Knight series.

Otherwise, Knights of the Old Republic is generally considered the best Star Wars game out there. It's an RPG about a young jedi perusing the trail of Darth Revan. One of the most notable things is that you can follow the path of the light or dark side, both which change the story and how characters interact with you.
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Post by: pzeke on September 16, 2020, 08:00:59 pm
As for Star Wars Video Games I need to play more of them in the future, I haven't beaten any Star Wars Video game yet :-\

Try the SNES games, I'm sure you'll like 'em.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Post by: oldgamerz on September 19, 2020, 04:26:23 am
As for Star Wars Video Games I need to play more of them in the future, I haven't beaten any Star Wars Video game yet :-\

Based off of some of the other games you've talked about, start with Dark Forces. It's a FPS game along the same playstyle as Duke Nukem 3D and would be the Legends equivalent of Rogue One, as it's about stealing the Death Star plans. The game's sequels are the Jedi Knight series.

Otherwise, Knights of the Old Republic is generally considered the best Star Wars game out there. It's an RPG about a young jedi perusing the trail of Darth Revan. One of the most notable things is that you can follow the path of the light or dark side, both which change the story and how characters interact with you.

I own quite a few Star Wars video game including

Star Wars Dark forces for PlayStation 1,
Star Wars Episode I Pod Racing, Nintendo 64
Star Wars Episode I Battle For Naboo for the Nintendo 64
Star Wars Shadows Of The Empire for the Nintendo 64
Star Wars Rogue Squadron 1 for the Nintendo 64
Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith PS2

I always get stuck on the sewer level in Star Wars Dark Forces, that level is a pain to figure out. all the rest of the Star Wars game I've tried are rock difficult video games. as well. I have no idea why they put a limited lives system in all of them (except EP1 Pod Racer) especially Dark Forces, having a limited life system in place is what makes most Star Wars games difficult for me.

Does anyone like having limited lives in a video game, to me? it makes no sense
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Post by: oldgamerz on November 02, 2021, 02:01:25 am
So I managed to collect ALL star Wars Films, and I wanted to talk a little about Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith, OBone and the fact that that Sith actually comes back in one of the new Star Wars Movies.

I am actually a big Star Wars Film Freak now I have all movies made up until whenever Solo came out, all are worth watching by the way in my own opinion.

I personally think that the Sith in the Star Wars Universe is most terrified of Obone, but does not show it too much, I think eventually in the Star Wars Universe the force is going to res·ur·rect ob1 Kenobi and he is going to Permanently kill the sith and keep him from coming back forever in the Star Wars Universe.

There was a tiny tiny hint of this ob1 kenobi and  Sith paranoia in the movie Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith.

If you go back to General Grievous's Commandship in the beginning where Anakin Skywalker AKA Luke Skywalker's father later known in Star Wars universe as Darth Vader,

 was on a mission to bring Count Dooku to justice and rescue the AHHHmm "The Sith"

In Episode III ob1 Kenobi fails to match the weight of Count Dooku's power Anakin Skywalker then  single handedly defeats Count Dooku, then short time after?

 here is where I want you to pay attention to  Darth Sithious's aka Senater Palpatine's face who actually is the Sith himself and he is Darth Sithious. Look at Senator Palpatine face when Anakin Decides to save ob1 Kenobi's life? he tells Anikin Skywalker to leave Ben behind to die on General Grevious's command ship.

and when  Palpatine  said those words it was too late Ankin was already saving OB1's life and look of terror on Palatines face at the sight and thought of of Anakin Skywalker picking up an unconscious Ob1. to rescue him

Now? I think that is a hint,

Later on in Star wars Episode III Anakin and the Sith aka Senator Palpatine were talking about how Darth Sithious could stop people from dying and how his apprentice betrayed him. I honestly think that the Sith knew the whole Star Wars plot ahead of time, that apprentice that betrayed Darth Sithious the Sith later turned out to be Darth Vader in 3 movies later Return Of The Jedi and Darth Vader was at first saved from death by Darth Sithous aka the sith aka Senator Palpatine.

Senator Palpatine was always the bad guy. in case you didn't figure it out to begin with.

 He was the Sith the entire time ever since Star Wars episode I The Phantom Menace, and eventually became the head of the Intergalactic Empire at the end of Episode III and remained the leader of the entire Intergalactic Empire until defeated by Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker in Episode VI Return Of The Jedi.

After that? I need to watch those files again and I'll keep you guys posted but Luke Skywalker

"out of filmset"

 becomes a Jedi master like Master Yoda and trains Jedi Knights that then gets betrayed his own nephew  by Han Solo and princess lala Son Ben Solo. Ben Solo joins the dark side of the force and takes Darth Vaders Place I need to watch those films again carefully though, Ben Solo eventually gets defeated by Luke Skywalker Adopted Daughter aka his Apprentice in the Rise Of Skywalker if I am not mistaken then somewhere the Sith comes back to life then it ends.

To sum up this post if the disney cannon continues to follow a similar to story line as to the George Lucas I persoanlly think there will be a showdown between The Sith aks Darth Sithious and Ob1 Kenobi and you probally already know who's gonna win right.

Point being that Darth Sithious knows the future or is possibly a time traveler from the future Star Wars Universe, in EP III the look on his face was pure terror just watch Episode III again to see what I mean?

But an evil coward like Emperor Sithious would never admit to being frighten of ob1 but I really really think he is terrified of him and the if Ob1 comes back into Star Wars like he told Darth Vader when Darth Vader Defeated Ob1 in Episode IV "Strike me down Darth" and I will become more powerful than you will even imagine. :D

Thanks for reading ;)

Ob1 is like Jesus LOL not only does he look like him in various photos of the prequel trilogy but also I think if Ob1 really get ticked off he can probably due some serious Jedi butt kicking, I don't think Star Wars has seen the last of Ben how about you?

Nice Guy too nice but don't get on OB1's bad list :)