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Title: Sega announcement
Post by: wartoy on May 31, 2020, 09:31:20 pm
Could Sega be Announcing a new console? I hope so it would be interesting and I would be all in. What are your thoughts yay or nay on a new sega console. Can't wait till june 4th to find out what it is!
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: ignition365 on May 31, 2020, 10:37:14 pm
Rumors i hear were

1) Xbox Series X branded as Sega Series X in Japan
2) MS buying Sega
3) Sega going platform exclusive.

None sound likely to me.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 31, 2020, 11:34:15 pm
I think it would be pretty dumb for Sega to jump back into the console market.  Of course I'd love to see it happen just to see a Sega console again, but I can't see them really making a dent between Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft.

That said...maybe it doesn't need to be a big console, what if they decided to go the handheld route again by bringing back the Sega Game Gear? A cheaper price point, established old school branding, they have a big library of classic and recent games, that could be something.  Though they would likely run into a lot of the same problems Nintendo does in trying to get big modern games to run super well on it and I don't know if a new handheld would work out since Nintendo has basically been the only company to be crazy successful at it other than Sony was the one time with the PSP.  They could also push for mobile games to be on the system and if they offer a lot of good features, especially stuff that Nintendo has completely failed at, it could be enticing.

I think the idea of re-branding Microsoft consoles over there with Sega wouldn't be a terrible one, it certainly couldn't hurt Microsoft to do with how bad Xbox does over there and it probably wouldn't be a thing where Sega loses anything from it if Microsoft is licensing the companies name for it.

I'm leaning towards some big new game initiative, like they are buying or creating studios to make a bunch more games, essentially what Microsoft did, just without it being system exclusive stuff.  I'm not quite on board with the idea of them going system exclusive, I feel like they make more in general being on all 3 systems and PC and not just 1 system and PC, but there is nothing saying they won't or at the very least go timed exclusive.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 31, 2020, 11:43:17 pm
I've learned better than to get really excited about any of Sega's big announcements. It's not that I don't love Sega, I really, really do, but I think the best we could hope for at this point is maybe a slew of new games coming out for next gen. I know this is not the big, insane re-entry into the console market we've all hoped and dreamt about since the Dreamcast went belly up, but I can't see anything being more likely or more optimistic at that.


Addressing some of the rumors, I hope to god Sega wasn't bought out by MS since they've destroyed or at least tainted nearly every game studio they've acquired and made them a shadow of their former selves. This is the only way I can see the "Sega Series X" rumor being true, and while a new Sega console would be cool, it would only be cool if Sega was independently releasing it as they did with their previous consoles.


To be honest, the big announcement has me more worried that excited. That's all I need this year is for my the symbol of my childhood gaming experience and creator of some of the best games I've ever played be assimilated into the Microsoft machine...
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 31, 2020, 11:48:51 pm
I'm leaning towards some big new game initiative, like they are buying or creating studios to make a bunch more games, essentially what Microsoft did, just without it being system exclusive stuff.


I'm actually hoping this might be it along with announcing some big, surprise titles for next gen. An independent Sega expanding and getting to create more games is what I want the most and what I think would be the best for them.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: jipsy on June 01, 2020, 12:29:46 am
hopefully Sonic Mania 2
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sonicfan53 on June 01, 2020, 01:59:58 am
I WANT it to be a new console that can run games from every Sega console of the past.
But I THINK it'll be something along the lines of the "Sega branded Xbox in Japan" thing.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: jjfly on June 01, 2020, 07:23:42 am
It's probably just either Master System Mini or Saturn Mini to go with Mega Drive/Genesis Mini
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: shfan on June 01, 2020, 08:15:31 am
An independent Sega expanding and getting to create more games is what I want the most and what I think would be the best for them.

Yeah, look at the Sonic and Sega All-Star racing games, fantastic new Sega games by a third party.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: ignition365 on June 01, 2020, 08:24:58 am
Though it'd be real neat if part of the Sega branding thing the Xbox Series X will play Dreamcast and Saturn games.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: tripredacus on June 01, 2020, 09:31:12 am
Whatever it is, at least we can be glad it won't be called Orbi. Praise be to NetGear!
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: turf on June 01, 2020, 12:39:21 pm
Maybe it’s a mini system.
While we’re dreaming, iim hoping it’s a Sega Mini with Master System - Genesis - 32x - Sega CD (Snatcher???) - Saturn with all the expensive games I’d like to give a go.

Or just give us a Dreamcast Mini with a killer collection of games!
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: bikingjahuty on June 01, 2020, 02:46:10 pm
Maybe it’s a mini system.
While we’re dreaming, iim hoping it’s a Sega Mini with Master System - Genesis - 32x - Sega CD (Snatcher???) - Saturn with all the expensive games I’d like to give a go.

Or just give us a Dreamcast Mini with a killer collection of games!


I feel like given the timing this has to be bigger than a mini-console. Sure, it might just end up being another one (fingers crossed for the Saturn mini), but I'm hoping this is actually a new console from Sega. I thought about this some more and one idea that popped in my head is maybe MS gave them the money they needed to create their own console in exchange for some exclusivity to certain Sega games and a share of the profits from the sale of those Sega consoles. This would make sense since no one gives shit about the XBOX in Japan and in a lot of other overseas markets, so this might be MS's way of getting some share of the money from those markets without trying to get people to buy the next XBOX which they won't. If this happened I'd want Sega to remain as independent as possible, but if Microsoft gave them enough money who knows how much or how little they'd attempt to infuence Sega's decisions with the console and what games they released on it.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: Warmsignal on June 01, 2020, 04:18:04 pm
It will never, ever be a new console. I've fallen for that hype time after time. Every time they have an announcement, every time they file a new patent, every time someone at SEGA gets a new haircut people swear that "Dreamcast 2" is coming. It isn't. They'll never be in a position to ever do something like that again, and there isn't room in the today's market anyway. So I'm more than over any rumor, or any hype about some new piece of SEGA hardware.

So no... no new console, or I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: wartoy on June 01, 2020, 04:23:08 pm
Maybe it’s a mini system.
While we’re dreaming, iim hoping it’s a Sega Mini with Master System - Genesis - 32x - Sega CD (Snatcher???) - Saturn with all the expensive games I’d like to give a go.

Or just give us a Dreamcast Mini with a killer collection of games!
This would be awesome!
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: dhaabi on June 01, 2020, 09:14:55 pm
hopefully Sonic Mania 2

I'm hoping for Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) 2.

Though it'd be real neat if part of the Sega branding thing the Xbox Series X will play Dreamcast and Saturn games.

If that were to happen, a lot of people not even on fence between the PS5 and Xbox Series X may suddenly become interested in the next generation. If some sort of Sega-branded Xbox deal were to play out successfully, this would be really cool. Nevertheless, I think this is a pretty cheap avenue that Microsoft can take in attracting a new market.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sworddude on June 01, 2020, 09:53:38 pm
hopefully Sonic Mania 2

I'm hoping for Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) 2.

Though it'd be real neat if part of the Sega branding thing the Xbox Series X will play Dreamcast and Saturn games.

If that were to happen, a lot of people not even on fence between the PS5 and Xbox Series X may suddenly become interested in the next generation. If some sort of Sega-branded Xbox deal were to play out successfully, this would be really cool. Nevertheless, I think this is a pretty cheap avenue that Microsoft can take in attracting a new market.

while that does seem cool it would not make any sense in this day and age

Xbox does not need the niche relatively small audience that sega has for the old stuff. and the moderate succeses that it has had with some of the newer games.

It's a fraction of the market that Xbox and sony actually target it's not profitable at all. a fraction of the current gen console market.

Sega isn't noteworthy in this day and age for the big money.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: telekill on June 02, 2020, 09:03:54 am
Being a pretty big Sega fan from Genesis to Dreamcast, I'm seriously hoping that this isn't about Xbox exclusive anything. Sega has finally got some traction back from being pretty horrible over the last 18 years or so. Sonic Mania, Shenmue 3 and Streets of Rage 4 show that Sega's IPs can still be good. They can still be fun. Taking those IPs and making them exclusive to anything other than a Sega system would be pretty well bulls**t. Thus, I'm hoping it doesn't happen.

If they were to try a Game Gear successor with say.... backwards compatibility (unlikely), many of their IPs on it, etc.... I would probably be on board. That's saying something considering how badly I got burned with the Vita. I swore off handhelds after that. Of course, this hypothetical handheld would have to do quite a bit right.

My guess for what they are going to be announcing is probably something along the lines of Seaman 2 Fish Guy's Revenge. Coming to a console near you this fall. Hoping for something more like a division within the company being made specifically to bring their IPs back to life similarly to Sonic Mania and Streets of Rage 4. Say with games like Comix Zone, Ecco, etc.

We'll see, but I don't have much faith in them.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: retromangia on June 02, 2020, 11:09:40 am
I loved the old Sega... unfortunately the Sega we know now is just a former shell of what they used to be.  The quality just isn't there anymore.  Every now and then they release a gem, but it's few and far between.  It's sad really.

Keep those Genesis' plugged in if you really want that SEGA lovin'  ;)
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: telly on June 02, 2020, 11:10:35 am
It would be cool if they announced a mini console. I've been eyeing up that Genesis mini.

Too many mini consoles and not enough money, I also want a TG16 mini  :'(
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: tripredacus on June 02, 2020, 11:41:08 am
The only Mini console I'd want from Sega is what Tec Toy originally promised but failed to deliver. A Mega Drive that could play carts, as well as from memory card, and output to HDMI. Whether it is a Mega Drive or anything else doesn't matter. Now with MODE, there is no reason for me to want a Saturn or Dreamcast mini.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: Flashback2012 on June 02, 2020, 12:29:53 pm
It would be cool if they announced a mini console. I've been eyeing up that Genesis mini.

I would really, Really, REALLY like it if they released more mini systems such as the SMS, Saturn and DC ones. I'd even go for a Genesis Mini II that has Sega CD and 32X games on it.  ;D

It always struck me though that Sega seems to forget they had other systems and only put out stuff related to the Genesis.  :-\

If they're trying to do anything with Xbox like be the Japanese face for them or something then IMO that'd be a huge waste time, effort, and money. Also, it would outright SUCK if MS bought them up... nothankyou.jpg  :P

I also want a TG16 mini  :'(

SAME!  8)
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: Cartagia on June 02, 2020, 10:37:10 pm
The Game Gear Micro just got revealed.  Definitely hope that they have something else for the 4th.

The Micro is cool, but way too small.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 02, 2020, 11:10:18 pm
So I was actually right on them bringing back the Game Gear, I just didn't think they would bring it back like this lol

That looks even smaller than the Game Boy Micro and that never looked like it would be actually fun to play, so something similar or even smaller seems kinda pointless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv5LhWmKCWE

Yeah I'll pass on the Micro.  The novelty of it is neat, but they made the lame decision to have only 16 games available for it, but on top of that, they only have 4 games per color.  So if you want all of them, it'll be over 200 dollars.  It's also absurdly tiny and you can get a screen enlarger, which is maybe more goofy than when Nintendo did it for the Game Boy.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sworddude on June 03, 2020, 05:19:15 am
get a flash card and play on a original console. what's the point of a miniconsole these days.

If you want to upgrade them mini consoles illegally for more games why not go ahead and do that for multiple consoles on a single mini console instead of buying multiples.

Like say play sega genesis games on a snes classic, nothing is stopping you it's just an emulator box plenty of people done that.

Still pretty small indeed, i can't imagine many people buying those to actually use it.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: telekill on June 03, 2020, 08:29:54 am
Ok.... I'm a huge Sega Game Gear fan and even I'm scratching my head on this one.

That's what.... maybe a 1 inch screen? The size of a postage stamp.... then, separating the 16 games across 4 variants based on color.

Black/Regular:
 - Sonic the Hedgehog (worst of the Sonic games but still ok)
 - Puyo Puyo 2
 - Out Run
 - Royal Stone

Blue:
 - Sonic Chaos (one of the best games on the system)
 - Gunstar Heroes (a great game on the system)
 - Sylvan Tale
 - Baku Baku Animal

Yellow: - I've not played any Shining Force games.
 - Shining Force Gaiden: Ensei – Jashin no Kuni he
 - Shining Force: The Sword of Hajya
 - Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict
 - Nazopuyo Aruru no Ru

Red:
 - Revelations: The Demon Slayer
 - Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible Special
 - The GG Shinobi (ok game)
 - Columns (ok game)

It would seem the Blue variant has the better set of four but it's still only four games on the tiny thing! FOUR! How is that worth $50?! I'm hoping that this game lineup and separating into four colors is only for Japan because the Game Gear is so niche here in America (thanks to Game Boy domination), there's no way this will sell here.

Here's what needs to happen for me to buy one....
1. Single color with 16-20 games. Hell, even a single with 15 games would be better than this.
2. HDMI out
3. No more than $75

If I got to choose what games were to be on the mini... going with only 15...
1. Sonic 2
2. Sonic Chaos
3. Sonic Triple Trouble
4. Sonic Spinball
5. Ecco the Dolphin
6. Jurassic Park
7. Gunstar Heroes
8. Streets of Rage
9. Streets of Rage 2
10. Road Rash
11. Virtua Fighter Animation
12. XMen
13. Castle of Illusion
14. Judge Dredd
15. Primal Rage

Yeah.... I don't know what to think about this but it seems a few higher ups at Sega are once again s**ting the bed.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: kashell on June 03, 2020, 08:44:19 am
Blech.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: telly on June 03, 2020, 09:51:20 am
You can also spend $250 to get all 4 consoles and you get a magnifying screen!! ::)
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sin2beta on June 03, 2020, 11:02:56 am
I'm a huge sega fan and will pass on the micro. I would potentially grab one if it was also a key chain. The purchase would be 90 percent for a keychain and 10 percent to play. Then soon to be 100 percent key chain as the keys scratch the hell out of the screen. But it just looks to be a really small game gear with few games.

Hoping for more on the fourth. I wrote for 2 websites specializing in sega previously. And sega would always do big teasers with underwhelming reveals. Likely this will be the same. They kept using revolutionary in their sega forever campaign, so im expecting a continuation of the now defunct service on next gen consoles and more.

But it is anyones guess. A lightbulb teaser meant two point hospital was coming.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: turf on June 03, 2020, 04:09:27 pm
The Game Gear Micro just got revealed.  Definitely hope that they have something else for the 4th.

The Micro is cool, but way too small.

I can just imagine what this would look like in my man-sized hands. I mean, these things on the end of my arm are big and stupid. There’s no way I’ll get any use out of that tiny thing.

I think I broke the game gear micro by looking at a picture of it on my phone, that was in my hand.

And only 4 games per color?  That’s just silly.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: telekill on June 03, 2020, 04:20:10 pm
And only 4 games per color?  That’s just silly.

It's frustrating. They could have done so much with a Game Gear revival.... and this is what they do. It's classic stupid Sega at its finest.  ::)
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: koemo1 on June 03, 2020, 04:56:06 pm
I'm going to keep my euro's in my pocket.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: mrkonasoni on June 03, 2020, 05:08:55 pm
I could buy once for 50$.

But I certainly feel the console looks too small and hard to play.
For a funny keychain I think I like the concept but certainly its hard to love that they only choosen 4 games per console.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: tpugmire on June 03, 2020, 06:12:51 pm
But will they have leaky capacitors?
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: wartoy on June 03, 2020, 06:21:05 pm
Im a sucker for shining force but no way im spending my money on this.The screen is the size of my thumb I probably wouldn't be able to see it if I was in my teens never mind now.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sonicfan53 on June 04, 2020, 02:02:30 am
- Sonic the Hedgehog (worst of the Sonic games but still ok)
Uh, it's FAR from the worst. Sonic 06? Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric? Sonic the Hedgehog: Genesis?
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sworddude on June 04, 2020, 04:22:00 am
- Sonic the Hedgehog (worst of the Sonic games but still ok)
Uh, it's FAR from the worst. Sonic 06? Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric? Sonic the Hedgehog: Genesis?

I'm pretty sure he means for this system

and i agree with that, it's the exact same thing for the genesis aswell sonic 1 is the worst of the 2d sonics.

Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: sin2beta on June 05, 2020, 03:00:38 pm
- Sonic the Hedgehog (worst of the Sonic games but still ok)
Uh, it's FAR from the worst. Sonic 06? Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric? Sonic the Hedgehog: Genesis?

I'm pretty sure he means for this system

and i agree with that, it's the exact same thing for the genesis aswell sonic 1 is the worst of the 2d sonics.

For the game gear, i think sonic blast is the worst. It was 2d on game gear. Then sonic 2 i think was bad. The zoomed in screen from the sms version made it close to unplayable at the first boss. Sonic 1 was zoomed in as well, but i feel didnt affect it until the later levels with the lightning that fills the screen. Might be scrap brain.

All an opinion, but sonic 1 on gg was good.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: mark1982 on June 06, 2020, 05:21:28 am
(https://i.imgur.com/pFHMgSu.jpg)

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/w0vFxYaCcvvJm/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4761d8c421af10477af6869c7c603cdf492ac316f5&rid=giphy.gif)


yeah, that's not happening..
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: wartoy on June 07, 2020, 02:15:48 am
Major let down again thanks Sega.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: pzeke on June 07, 2020, 01:02:21 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3K82JiL.gif)

Sega being Sega. What a shocker.
Title: Re: Sega announcement
Post by: burningdoom on July 16, 2020, 01:56:01 pm
Yeah, this was pretty freaking stupid. They hyped the hell out of this, too. But hey, at least it's not yet another Sega Genesis game collection.