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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: kamikazekeeg on September 16, 2020, 04:34:28 pm
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So this turned out to be a way bigger deal than I was expecting, so I'll post the info here to talk about. Price should be announced soon.
- Final Fantasy XVI - Console exclusive and on PC, and it looks incredible. Super classic fantasy setting which they haven't done in a long time I believe. Visually very familiar to Final Fantasy XIV in particular as apparently it has at least the FF14 producer working on it.
- Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Actual gameplay, the new powers look incredible. Confirmed to be a launch title. Will be available on PS4. There will be an ultimate edition that comes with a voucher for the first game remastered with all the DLC.
- Hogwarts Legacy - Third person, set in the 1800's, create a character, it's been known for a long time but finally revealed.
- Resident Evil 8 - They showed a little more, but not much, hopefully more at TGS next year.
- Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - Launch day digital release, looks to have all new Virgil stuff and they super ramped up the amount of enemies.
- Demon's Souls - Fully gameplay and god damn it looks incredible. Confirmed to be a launch title and available on PC.
And there it is....November 12th, 500 dollars for the main console, 400 for the disc-less version.
- God of War 2 - Teased for a 2021 release.
That was a pretty great showing, good exclusives announced, that Playstation Plus Collection will be basically their version of a game pass for their PS4 exclusives for people to play them on the PS5, and the PS5 price is right what it should be.
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Dad of Boy 2!
That and Horizon 2 will probably get me to upgrade, but not until then.
Oh! and Demon's Souls.
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Spider-Man: Miles MOrales is confirmed to be a launch title and will be available on PS4 too for folks.
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Hmm there was only a handful of games shown, a couple of which really don't appeal to me like Resident Evil Village and Devil May Cry 5, and a lot of the games weren't launch day but 2021. It was a pretty disappointing showcase for me personally.
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And I missed this, but Demon Souls is also a launch title, which is crazy. This is one of the better console launches for me as that gives me Spider-Man, Demon's Souls, and maybe Godfall for launch.
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As far as the direct went, it was average. Personally, I'm only excited for FFXVI. However, I hope it steers away from XV by including women as playable leads.
- Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Actual gameplay, the new powers look incredible. Confirmed to be a launch title. Will be available on PS4. There will be an ultimate edition that comes with a voucher for the first game remastered with all the DLC.
And the Ultimate Edition is confirmed to be priced at $69.99 too, which is a great deal.
Edit: Okay, so apparently confirmed pricing is...weird, to say the least. Spider-Man: Miles Morales debuts at $49.99, whereas Destruction All Stars and the remake for Demon's Souls are priced at $69.99. Meanwhile, Sackboy: A Big Adventure is $59.99.
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Some games might cost upwards 70$ retail with ps5.
I miss them times when games where only 40$ brand new
Where are the era's when games got cheaper not more pricy
We already have increased fee's thanks to dlc and micro transactions.
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An NES game in 1990 cost, on average, about $50. That's $89 in 2013 money. Your $70 N64 cartridges in 1998 would require the equivalent of $100 today. Heck, the $50 PlayStation 2 game you bought in 2005 is worth $60, the exact price of a typical retail game in 2013.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power (https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power)
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Could you imagine paying over 750 bucks for a 2600?? x(
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I'm definitely more optimistic and excited about the PS5 at this point, but as others have pointed out, everything really cool looked like it's coming out next year at the earliest. I'm 90% sure I'm going to wait on the PS5 until next year, maybe even 2022.
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An NES game in 1990 cost, on average, about $50. That's $89 in 2013 money. Your $70 N64 cartridges in 1998 would require the equivalent of $100 today. Heck, the $50 PlayStation 2 game you bought in 2005 is worth $60, the exact price of a typical retail game in 2013.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power (https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power)
your forgetting dlc and micro transactions though, inflation ain't going to save it than
Also the thing is. from ps1 to ps3 era, games got cheaper prices actually dropped by the gen. all I'm saying. anything before ps1 era was also fairly pricy in terms of consoles. Like most electronics videogames actually got cheaper in terms of production
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After all this prep into getting an Xbox SeriouX PS5 pulls out the last resort - The only plan to stop me jumping consoles, Final Fantasy XVI as a Launch exclusive - Daymn!
It looks great too, I don't tend to like Hi-fantasy as much as many - Do be honest I wanted a more lighthearted style like IX. But I'm happy with everything I saw. I hope in time they change the graphical style as it reminds me too much of FF14's engine work. But overall very impressed, can't see it releasing before 2022 which is fine with me.
There was a lot of other good stuff on show Resident Evil 8 is another title I am very eager to play, it's a very bold new direction for the series style and I'm open to what it brings + I loved RE7, easily one of my favourite titles this gen!
The Oddworld title looks phenomenal too! A very true sequel to Odyssey.
Overall great show, easily the best I've seen all year. I won't be getting a PS5 this year, the launch titles don't have anything that grapes me but I am sure I'll have one by the end of 2021.
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After all this prep into getting an Xbox SeriouX PS5 pulls out the last resort - The only plan to stop me jumping consoles, Final Fantasy XVI as a Launch exclusive - Daymn!
Final Fantasy XVI is a PlayStation 5 exclusive with it also to be released for PC. It isn't a launch title debuting on November 12 alongside the PlayStation 5—with there being no release window given at all for Final Fantasy XVI. Perhaps you only worded what you meant wrong and instead mean what I'm explaining, but I figured I'd go ahead and explain anyway just in case you misunderstood.
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https://www.gamesradar.com/how-much-do-ps5-games-cost/
Just realised that games could cost upwards of 80$ retail in europe, that's a first that they made it more pricy than the US aside from it's currency.
That's painfull that's a 20$ increase 33%. discounts exists even on release but still 20$ and 33% more on average is pretty rough :o
Probably has something to do that people in the USA have to pay taxes on everything but who knows really.
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So many games...
(https://i.imgur.com/R0eo0sM.gif)
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The system is showing up for pre-order on websites like Gamestop, Walmart, and Target today, so there's a chance to get it there if it shows up.
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Hogwarts was the biggest for me even though I already saw the leaked footage it still impressed me.
PS Plus collection is very awesome. I hope there's a way to access it on PS4 though.
Price is great.
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Pretty decent showcase actually, if you compare it to previous gen launches. PS4 was barren from what I remember.
I'm just glad we're finally getting a Demon's Souls Remake
(https://i.imgur.com/l7k2UWU.jpg)
Wife just told me she pre-ordered a PS5 for me as an early Christmas gift, no complaints there ;D
Added a few games to my wishlist (https://www.vgcollect.com/wishlist/mark1982/ps5na (https://www.vgcollect.com/wishlist/mark1982/ps5na)) after she told me.
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Pretty decent showcase actually, if you compare it to previous gen launches. PS4 was barren from what I remember.
PS4 was super terrible for sure. I don't think the system had anything of note till at least Bloodborne, and that was over a year after the PS4's launch. I didn't even want to pick up a PS4 till 2016 when Uncharted 4 was looking to come out and there were more games coming up that I wanted to play. In comparison, having Spider-Man: Miles Morales and Demon's Souls from Sony and stuff like Godfall at launch for the PS5 is already a big win, and then we have God of War 2 and Horizon 2 hopefully making next year, that could be a real good year for the system if they hit that release window. Have like Horizon 2 be summer and then God of War 2 be the holiday release.
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An NES game in 1990 cost, on average, about $50. That's $89 in 2013 money. Your $70 N64 cartridges in 1998 would require the equivalent of $100 today. Heck, the $50 PlayStation 2 game you bought in 2005 is worth $60, the exact price of a typical retail game in 2013.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power (https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power)
your forgetting dlc and micro transactions though, inflation ain't going to save it than
Also the thing is. from ps1 to ps3 era, games got cheaper prices actually dropped by the gen. all I'm saying. anything before ps1 era was also fairly pricy in terms of consoles. Like most electronics videogames actually got cheaper in terms of production
I didn't forget anything. You said:
I miss them times when games where only 40$ brand new
That hasn't been the case in 30 years, if ever.
And DLC has been around forever, it just had different names. They were called expansion packs. And yes, inflation does make a difference. Like the quoted section of the article says - a $60 game in game in 1990 is the equivalent of an $89 game in 2013. That's closer to $100 today - or two $20 DLC packs.
As for microtransactions - if you don't like em, don't use em. I've purchased maybe one, ever, and it was mostly an aesthetic thing that I just really wanted. I doubt any of us are really playing any games where microtransactions have any real effect on our gameplay experience.
And games do generally go down in price over time. That's what the Complete and GotY editions are for. Hell, with Miles Morales you can get Spider-Man, and all of it's DLC for like $20-30. At original retail that was still about that $100 total spend I just talked about. I'd say that price went down. Hell, Horizon: Zero Dawn is regularly $10-15 for the base game and DLC.
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An NES game in 1990 cost, on average, about $50. That's $89 in 2013 money. Your $70 N64 cartridges in 1998 would require the equivalent of $100 today. Heck, the $50 PlayStation 2 game you bought in 2005 is worth $60, the exact price of a typical retail game in 2013.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power (https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/15/the-real-cost-of-gaming-inflation-time-and-purchasing-power)
your forgetting dlc and micro transactions though, inflation ain't going to save it than
Also the thing is. from ps1 to ps3 era, games got cheaper prices actually dropped by the gen. all I'm saying. anything before ps1 era was also fairly pricy in terms of consoles. Like most electronics videogames actually got cheaper in terms of production
I didn't forget anything. You said:
I miss them times when games where only 40$ brand new
That hasn't been the case in 30 years, if ever.
And DLC has been around forever, it just had different names. They were called expansion packs. And yes, inflation does make a difference. Like the quoted section of the article says - a $60 game in game in 1990 is the equivalent of an $89 game in 2013. That's closer to $100 today - or two $20 DLC packs.
As for microtransactions - if you don't like em, don't use em. I've purchased maybe one, ever, and it was mostly an aesthetic thing that I just really wanted. I doubt any of us are really playing any games where microtransactions have any real effect on our gameplay experience.
And games do generally go down in price over time. That's what the Complete and GotY editions are for. Hell, with Miles Morales you can get Spider-Man, and all of it's DLC for like $20-30. At original retail that was still about that $100 total spend I just talked about. I'd say that price went down. Hell, Horizon: Zero Dawn is regularly $10-15 for the base game and DLC.
It has though
mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword where just 40$ on release and obviously all the other first party titles aswell. wii ps3 xbox 360 era. galaxy 2 released in 2010, other wii games 2007? so 10 to 13 years ago
even though inflation came prices got cheaper.
ps2 gamecube era games where 50$ on release. ps1 n64 era was 50 - 80$ a pop
So prices got cheaper, in ps1 to ps3 era even though inflation happened
50 to 80$ in ps1 n64 era, to 40$ in wii ps3 xbox 360 era when money had less value that's definitely a decrease in price.
Only I reason why i replied is because you said 40$ games never happened and it sure as hell happened. videogames actually got less pricy with each gen at a certain point. low end was even 30$ at times and that was just a couple month after release from some other stores for big titles like galaxy 1 mario kart etc.
if it was 45 at some stores it was rarity and overpriced.
and let's not ignore nintendo selects wich got even lower at just 20$ for big titles like mario kart and galaxy.
And those prices where from the bigger popular stores that charge the max amount so it could be cheaper aswell. 60$ was not the normal before ps4 wii u era. prices have increased by 50% in this era before ps5 happened.
Inflation is fine, but considering microtransactions and tons of dlc exists it's not great.
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It has though
mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword where just 40$ on release and obviously all the other first party titles aswell. wii ps3 xbox 360 era. galaxy 2 released in 2010, other wii games 2007? so 10 to 13 years ago
Here's the wayback machine to the week after Mario Galaxy's launch - $50.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071124043240/http://www.gamestop.com/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20071124043240/http://www.gamestop.com/)
So, yeah. $50. No idea where you pulled $40 from.
Only I reason why i replied is because you said 40$ games never happened and it sure as hell happened. videogames actually got less pricy with each gen at a certain point. low end was even 30$ at times and that was just a couple month after release from some other stores for big titles like galaxy 1 mario kart etc.
if it was 45 at some stores it was rarity and overpriced.
And those prices where from the bigger popular stores that charge the max amount so it could be cheaper aswell. 60$ was not the normal. prices have increased by 50% in this era before ps5 happened.
Yeah, of course, some games didn't cost the full normal retail price (Shadow of the Colossus, I know didn't), but $50+ has be the norm for 30 years. There was some variation in the PS1 / N64 generation, but it was mostly higher than $50, not under. It was probably all over the place due to the new development and production technology, but everything still average around $50.
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Hogwarts was the biggest for me even though I already saw the leaked footage it still impressed me.
PS Plus collection is very awesome. I hope there's a way to access it on PS4 though.
Price is great.
I forgot to mention the Black Ops exclusive Alpha. Just like the GTA announcement in the last show, this was also a highlight for me.
What I didn't like about the show was the ending highlight reel. That included new gameplay footage of Destruction AllStars and Sackboy that I'd like to see more of as well as a couple of games that I don't even remember seeing previously.
I hope they have a show in October with the UI and maybe more of Astro, D AS, Sackboy, Ratchet and Returnal.
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It has though
mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword where just 40$ on release and obviously all the other first party titles aswell. wii ps3 xbox 360 era. galaxy 2 released in 2010, other wii games 2007? so 10 to 13 years ago
Here's the wayback machine to the week after Mario Galaxy's launch - $50.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071124043240/http://www.gamestop.com/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20071124043240/http://www.gamestop.com/)
So, yeah. $50. No idea where you pulled $40 from.
Only I reason why i replied is because you said 40$ games never happened and it sure as hell happened. videogames actually got less pricy with each gen at a certain point. low end was even 30$ at times and that was just a couple month after release from some other stores for big titles like galaxy 1 mario kart etc.
if it was 45 at some stores it was rarity and overpriced.
And those prices where from the bigger popular stores that charge the max amount so it could be cheaper aswell. 60$ was not the normal. prices have increased by 50% in this era before ps5 happened.
Yeah, of course, some games didn't cost the full normal retail price (Shadow of the Colossus, I know didn't), but $50+ has be the norm for 30 years. There was some variation in the PS1 / N64 generation, but it was mostly higher than $50, not under. It was probably all over the place due to the new development and production technology, but everything still average around $50.
I don't know why I'm posting this, but $50, $60. *$80 was harder to earn back in the day then it is now, for example minimum wage has gone up in the United States making it a lot more easier to obtain a $50 , $60 or $80 then it was back in the 1980's and 1990's. Yes There have been extra content under a paywall since the late 1980's called Expansion packs for PC games. the major difference is most games you can no longer play with the disc by itself much anymore.