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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: oldgamerz on November 03, 2020, 02:13:50 am
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For me I like both
but only Legit emulation. Sure it's tempting to download thousands of free ROMs, and play them on PC, or other devices, but it's just not for me. (except for Atari 2600 ROMs I have on a Portable device) As for emulation period, what is the difference between playing something on real hardware? compared to playing an emulated console or some kind of ROM? something like an official NES classic/Mini
I always wanted to know this. Because I play PlayStation 1 games on a PS3 and 99.9% of all my PlayStation 1 games play are fine. and no noticeable slowdown on most of them. Even though it's technically emulation. So do you think emulation better? or worse then playing most games on original hardware? I've never seen a difference, but I don't really know anything about computer chips and other hardware for consoles
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After modding my PS1 classic and comparing the difference between playing on that and using my PS1 discs I don't think i'll ever go back to playing PS1 games on the PS3. It really is night and day! I bought many USA PS1 releases off the PS Store too - Xenogears, Parasite Eve etc.
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So do you think emulation better?
Of course. Emulation is the shit - it was, and still is the future. Only purists make a fuss about it.
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For me I like both
but only Legit emulation. Sure it's tempting to download thousands of free ROMs, and play them on PC, or other devices, but it's just not for me. (except for Atari 2600 ROMs I have on a Portable device) As for emulation period, what is the difference between playing something on real hardware? compared to playing an emulated console or some kind of ROM? something like an official NES classic/Mini
I always wanted to know this. Because I play PlayStation 1 games on a PS3 and 99.9% of all my PlayStation 1 games play are fine. and no noticeable slowdown on most of them. Even though it's technically emulation. So do you think emulation better? or worse then playing most games on original hardware? I've never seen a difference, but I don't really know anything about computer chips and other hardware for consoles
I prefer legit hardware
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So do you think emulation better?
Of course. Emulation is the shit - it was, and still is the future. Only purists make a fuss about it.
Especially with how you can emulate from a vast amount of devices outside of just a PC.
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Emulate all of it.
Games deserve to be played. Prices keep a lot of folks from playing really good games.
Enjoy it all
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Original hardware. I find clone systems like Retron 5 have issues like input lag, or the Genesis clones sounding terrible. I want to play games as they should be played. And I'm a collector, so I want that physical item.
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For those of you who do emulation the Hyperkin RetroN 2 is a good emulator console for both Super Nintendo and Regular NES game cartridges. Mine works great, no lag and I can use both official and Un-official game controllers too. :)
But it is AV and S-video out only or at least the one I have. Mine does not connect HDMI
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imo, emulation is way more practical and cost-efficient. I spent years and years playing everything I wasn't able to play in childhood-days, and I'm really thankfull for all those sources for roms, etc. ...
But actually I turned out to be a "Purist" ... without making a fuss about it. I totally understand why many People use emulating programs for their retro-game-experiences ... but mine personally do include using the original systems, that's just the way I for myself can pull much more joy out of it. I love reading instruction booklets before clipping in cartridges, and I love the feel of old controls in my hands. Darn, even blowing into slots to make games work 8) get's me in somewhat sensual mood, hehe ...
I think everyone should choose for himself, what's the better fitting way of experiencing old games - I chose having my like 12 Systems or so, set up in one room, surrounded by shelves of cartridge-stacks - all ready to go, if I want a quick play. But that's not only for gaming, but living out my nostalgia connected to those old games. That's definitely nothing really "necessary" ... if it is just the games itself for you, then stick with the "good ol'" Emulators :o
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Original hardware. I find clone systems like Retron 5 have issues like input lag, or the Genesis clones sounding terrible. I want to play games as they should be played. And I'm a collector, so I want that physical item.
I prefer original hardware. I can’t play games I’m good at on emulation. SMB is unplayable on emulation. If I have to learn how to play something new, emulation is just fine.
tldr; This was some incoherent rambling.
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I prefer to play everything on original hardware when possible. With that said however, I'm currently into buying flash carts and disc emulators to play game roms on the original hardware. Still, sometimes I'm just feeling lazy and want to plug in a USB controller to my laptop and play some NES or arcade game. Sure, there's probably some slight difference because it's being emulated, but I don't really care.
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Especially with how you can emulate from a vast amount of devices outside of just a PC.
Precisely. And emulation is also a great way to not only play arcade games, but preserve them as well.
[...] SMB is unplayable on emulation.
You seriously lost me there...
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Especially with how you can emulate from a vast amount of devices outside of just a PC.
Precisely. And emulation is also a great way to not only play arcade games, but preserve them as well.
[...] SMB is unplayable on emulation.
You seriously lost me there...
In regards to arcade games, this is the reason why I went out my way to softmod an OG Xbox to install CoinOps 8 and the amount of arcade titles is ridiculous. I'm sure there are more viable options these days but this was my way at the time to get a boatload of titles. Couple that with a couple of adapters to use my PS4 arcade sticks on the Xbox and I am good to go.
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Especially with how you can emulate from a vast amount of devices outside of just a PC.
Precisely. And emulation is also a great way to not only play arcade games, but preserve them as well.
[...] SMB is unplayable on emulation.
You seriously lost me there...
He's right. That's the exact game that throws me completely off in emulation. I know how that game feels. I never die on it. On a Retron 5 the input lag was incredibly apparent on SMB, I was dying left and right
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sometimes free ROM can have issues, I had a few before I knew they were illegal ', and Mike Tyson's Punch-out didn't have a low blow option as far as we could tell. Making the hippo king impossible to beat, therefore after looking it up on the internet we found out that you were suppose to punch him in the stomach but me and my friend could never do it, no matter which button we tried.
We pressed all the button's on the controller. Maybe there was a combo that we didn't know about? since A and B Select and Start and a D-pad are the only button's used for NES games,, we tried using the D-pad and pressing all the button and we still could not beat that character
It's safer and better two not use free ROMS, since it's it basically the same thing as you know what on the internet
Retron 5 I heard was not a good console, which is why I never bought one :-\
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After modding my PS1 classic and comparing the difference between playing on that and using my PS1 discs I don't think i'll ever go back to playing PS1 games on the PS3. It really is night and day! I bought many USA PS1 releases off the PS Store too - Xenogears, Parasite Eve etc.
to be fair, ps1 games looks way worse on a ps3 it's bad emulation on a ps3. ps1 and ps2 is original hardware ps3 is emulation even though it uses the original discs
Still at the end of the day if you want a nice image on original hardware you got to have nice cables preferably a crt it's allot more work. but ps1 games look much better on a ps2 or ps1 even with av compared to ps3. ps3 is one of the worst ways to play ps1 games.
Good Emulation will win out at the very end of the day but the differences ain't huge when nicely optimized on og hardware. colors are a bit less with emulation though.
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[...] SMB is unplayable on emulation.
You seriously lost me there...
He's right. That's the exact game that throws me completely off in emulation. I know how that game feels. I never die on it. On a Retron 5 the input lag was incredibly apparent on SMB, I was dying left and right
I’m glad I’m not the only one. It’s just games I’m good at. I can’t hardly play Contra or Punch-Out!! On emulation either.
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[...] SMB is unplayable on emulation.
You seriously lost me there...
He's right. That's the exact game that throws me completely off in emulation. I know how that game feels. I never die on it. On a Retron 5 the input lag was incredibly apparent on SMB, I was dying left and right
I’m glad I’m not the only one. It’s just games I’m good at. I can’t hardly play Contra or Punch-Out!! On emulation either.
what about emulation on a lagless pc screen. I don't think emulation is at vault here with the correct pc screen. for fighting games in particular certain screens are a must for practice and vs matches competitive that is.
Some screens are more viable for frame perfect inputs than others.
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In all honesty, I've never been shy about modding a console and pushing it's limits to see what I can emulate and how well, but for some reason I just still prefer to do it on a console. For some things, I won't look anywhere further than my PC (Exclusives, Fightcade, harder emulation). I think it's honestly a great thing to do bc realistically, archiving software is a big must. But as far as quality, I think emulation is a must sometimes. Ever drives are great, but.. them prices tho. And as much as I love collecting, $300 for Cubivore ain't ever gonna happen.
The backwards ps3 can't play all PS2 games and honestly, PS1 can run a lot sharper and faster than it does on the systems that make it available. Same can be said for the PS2. Original hardware optimization for new tv's is a drag and a costly one at that, so I think there shouldn't be any shame to accepting Emulation as a great alternative for experiencing games in a convenient and optimal way.
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[...] I think there shouldn't be any shame to accepting Emulation as a great alternative for experiencing games in a convenient and optimal way.
I couldn't agree more. Back then emulation was near taboo, it used to have a bad connotation and anybody that did it was stigmatized. Nowadays it's quite common, especially with platforms like Twitch where more often than not you'll have people emulating games, whether they disclose it or not. Not to mention how barefaced many are in regards to the topic given the plethora of options available.