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Title: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 09, 2023, 10:17:23 am
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Link to Listing Errors 2018 Thread:
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https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9928.0.html
Link to 2020-21 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html
Link to 2022 thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11723.0.html
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on January 14, 2023, 08:35:53 pm
one of the images on a new submission must have been too large and made a blank.

https://vgcollect.com/item/233799

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: deanos on January 15, 2023, 09:32:18 am
This has never benn released
https://vgcollect.com/item/55020

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: ignition365 on January 17, 2023, 12:47:38 pm
Before it gets denied, as I imagine it will.

Despite stock art existing prior to release, Conception Plus for PS4 was only released as a Day One edition in North America for standard copies.  I would kindly request that if you are going to deny the request please provide supporting evidence that a non Day One edition of the game exists, as my research found none to exist.  Even the Limited Edition version of the game came with the Day One Edition case inside.

https://vgcollect.com/item/166640
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 17, 2023, 05:01:29 pm
Before it gets denied, as I imagine it will.

https://vgcollect.com/item/166640

This sort of situation in having to rename the standard version of an item's entry is not that uncommon, so there shouldn't be any expectation for an edit like that to be rejected (from me, anyway.) It's an issue relating to entries being created prior to the actual item's release date.

With that said, your edits have been approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 21, 2023, 11:52:05 am
1) How can i edit the items? For example, https://vgcollect.com/item/220087 - i can add DVD scan, can type the Box Text and i ask about change the Russian publisher to МедиаХауз (MediaHouse)...

2) If i have official releases of game with different covers - do i need to create new "game"? I Have "Black" PlayStation 2 release like on site, Platinum release and third - release with russian cover, & different barcode
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 21, 2023, 05:21:13 pm
1) How can i edit the items? For example, https://vgcollect.com/item/220087 - i can add DVD scan, can type the Box Text and i ask about change the Russian publisher to МедиаХауз (MediaHouse)...

At the top-right of each entry page, there is an "Edit this Item" button which will allow users to edit entry information. Here is a screenshot (https://i.imgur.com/Ma3o9L5.jpg) detailing where exactly that button is located, because it is not obvious.

Currently, users are required to request developer and publisher information in a dedicated forum thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5820.585.html) if it isn't present. I can not answer with full confidence if the local name МедиаХауз would be used, but I imagine it to actually be MediaHouse if approved, since our site largely utilizes Latin characters.


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2) If i have official releases of game with different covers - do i need to create new "game"? I Have "Black" PlayStation 2 release like on site, Platinum release and third - release with russian cover, & different barcode

That is correct. If you were wanting to submit an entry for the Russian release for Black, then the entry name should be submitted as Black [RU]. Also, if you were wanting to submit information to the Item Number field, the Sony serial found on the spine should be formatted as LLLL-NNNNN, including the hyphen. (L=Letter, N=Number)

Welcome to VGC!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 22, 2023, 02:17:43 am
Ok. Got it. Thanks
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 23, 2023, 08:19:42 am
IDK if it's problem o not, but what abot prefixes like Disney's or Disney\Pixar....

We have:
- https://vgcollect.com/item/28797 Disney Cars: Mater-National Championship
- https://vgcollect.com/item/187946 Cars: Mater-National Championship
- https://vgcollect.com/item/188088 Disney-Pixar Cars: La Coppa Internazionale di Carl Attrezzi

I understand about languages and all other, but disney\pixar is on all covers... And i think it's one name for most of games on different consoles.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 23, 2023, 10:03:30 am
IDK if it's problem o not, but what abot prefixes like Disney's or Disney\Pixar....

We have:
- https://vgcollect.com/item/28797 Disney Cars: Mater-National Championship
- https://vgcollect.com/item/187946 Cars: Mater-National Championship
- https://vgcollect.com/item/188088 Disney-Pixar Cars: La Coppa Internazionale di Carl Attrezzi

I understand about languages and all other, but disney\pixar is on all covers... And i think it's one name for most of games on different consoles.

The name used on an entry will match whatever name is used for that version GameFAQs. If GameFAQs does not have that version, then people can write the title with or without the studio name present.

So for example, the US version is on GameFAQs and I have fixed our name to match the one there
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/943572-disney-pixar-cars-mater-national-championship/boxes/86424
But for the other two you linked, the Australian and Italian versions, they are not on GameFAQs at all, the game name can then be either a name from some other site OR the text on the box itself.

But in a case where there is an entry for a game not on GameFAQs, like that AU version, the Alt-name should have Disney/Pixar text entered to aid searching.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 23, 2023, 02:41:06 pm
The name used on an entry will match whatever name is used for that version GameFAQs. If GameFAQs does not have that version, then people can write the title with or without the studio name present.

So for example, the US version is on GameFAQs and I have fixed our name to match the one there

Now seems to be a good time to get a formal stance on the Disney/Pixar name formatting in a forum topic. Sometime this past year, I noticed that new relevant entries were being formatted as Disney / Pixar with a space before and after the forward slash ( / ). So, when submitting new entries for these kinds of items myself, I had since utilized the same formatting. However, in the past and even with 28797 (https://vgcollect.com/item/28797) which is newly updated, those spaces aren't present. So, how exactly should entry names with forward slash in the name be formatted so we can maintain consistency?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 23, 2023, 04:30:23 pm
It's just my IMHO...

@tripredacus, mobygames much better for games naming... At least they have one name for all releases if it so...

@dhaabi all games like this are the headache in naming for bases) Correct is Disney(dot)Pixar), but in almost all places its like "Disney/Pixar"... Some games have "Disney's" prefix (Disney's Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers) or just "Disney" (Disney Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour). Near them - DreamWorks games like "DreamWorks Madagascar" or "DreamWorks & Aardman Flushed Away"...

BTW, i've asked this, because i can't find games to add them to my collection) And I'm very meticulous in such things
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 23, 2023, 05:45:32 pm
@dhaabi all games like this are the headache in naming for bases) Correct is Disney(dot)Pixar), but in almost all places its like "Disney/Pixar"... Some games have "Disney's" prefix (Disney's Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers) or just "Disney" (Disney Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour). Near them - DreamWorks games like "DreamWorks Madagascar" or "DreamWorks & Aardman Flushed Away"...

BTW, i've asked this, because i can't find games to add them to my collection) And I'm very meticulous in such things

The forward slash ( / ) serves the same purpose as the interpunct ( · ) and is easier for users to utilize as well. Another thing to consider is that punctuation has no major impact on our search results. Relying upon GameFAQs (or any other agreed upon source) allows for our users to utilize a secondary source to better locate existing VGC entries and to assist in submitting new ones.

Whether an item should be formatted as Disney, Disney's, or Disney/Pixar is reliant on the item itself, discounting the common name rule. Below are four different formats of "Disney" for the same game that is dependent on region which utilize the actual title text:
Disney's Aladdin in Nasira's Revenge (https://vgcollect.com/item/60145)
Disney Aladdin: La Venganza de Nasira (https://vgcollect.com/item/231314)
Disneys Aladdin: Nasiras Hämnd (https://vgcollect.com/item/231315)
Disneyn Aladdin: Nasiran Kosto (https://vgcollect.com/item/103533)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 24, 2023, 09:41:52 am
Would like to know if the contents of a listing can be used as a descriptor or if hologram location could be used as a descriptor. Would normally try to differentiate by something more clearly on the packaging but Item numbers are the same, discs seem to be the same etc

4012927024058 https://vgcollect.com/item/34836 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275512044498? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325508369864?       - Contains 03/04 Konami Catalogue - Hologram on front
4012927026670 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394384597064? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374476029126? - No Catalogue - Hologram on back
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 24, 2023, 10:09:11 am
It's just my IMHO...

@tripredacus, mobygames much better for games naming... At least they have one name for all releases if it so...

Mobygames is a good resource to know some of the various names but not good as a direct reference because they do not tie the names to individual releases like GameFAQs does.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 24, 2023, 10:16:51 am
Would like to know if the contents of a listing can be used as a descriptor or if hologram location could be used as a descriptor. Would normally try to differentiate by something more clearly on the packaging but Item numbers are the same, discs seem to be the same etc

4012927024058 https://vgcollect.com/item/34836 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275512044498? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325508369864?       - Contains 03/04 Konami Catalogue - Hologram on front
4012927026670 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394384597064? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374476029126? - No Catalogue - Hologram on back

Try to find sealed examples to see if there is another thing different such as a label. If not then you can put the name of the item in descriptor. It doesn't seem to have the word catalog on it, so it would be (Konami of Europe 03 04)
Then you can edit the name to put in the quote symbol after.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 24, 2023, 10:21:06 am
The spacing is only a rule on game titles. Disney/Pixar is not part of the game title and can be formatted either way but should match the name source.

The name used on an entry will match whatever name is used for that version GameFAQs. If GameFAQs does not have that version, then people can write the title with or without the studio name present.

So for example, the US version is on GameFAQs and I have fixed our name to match the one there

Now seems to be a good time to get a formal stance on the Disney/Pixar name formatting in a forum topic. Sometime this past year, I noticed that new relevant entries were being formatted as Disney / Pixar with a space before and after the forward slash ( / ). So, when submitting new entries for these kinds of items myself, I had since utilized the same formatting. However, in the past and even with 28797 (https://vgcollect.com/item/28797) which is newly updated, those spaces aren't present. So, how exactly should entry names with forward slash in the name be formatted so we can maintain consistency?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 24, 2023, 10:29:35 am
Would like to know if the contents of a listing can be used as a descriptor or if hologram location could be used as a descriptor. Would normally try to differentiate by something more clearly on the packaging but Item numbers are the same, discs seem to be the same etc

4012927024058 https://vgcollect.com/item/34836 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275512044498? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325508369864?       - Contains 03/04 Konami Catalogue - Hologram on front
4012927026670 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394384597064? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374476029126? - No Catalogue - Hologram on back

Try to find sealed examples to see if there is another thing different such as a label. If not then you can put the name of the item in descriptor. It doesn't seem to have the word catalog on it, so it would be (Konami of Europe 03 04)
Then you can edit the name to put in the quote symbol after.

The two items should have different secondary spine item numbers. The number relates to the last 7 digits of the barcode sequence. I have only been able to verify the information for the "front hologram" variant. I've yet to encounter a PlayStation 2 EU item that ignores this secondary spine number pattern, much less omit a number altogether.

7024058: 1 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASTLEVANIA-SONY-PLAYSTATION-2-PS2-GAME-WITH-MANUAL-OFFICIAL-ENGLISH-UK-PAL-/225042831776), 2 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Castlevania-Lament-Of-Innocence-Playstation-2-PAL-/325497400721), 3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403433321480?epid=93953779)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 24, 2023, 10:40:20 am
Thats a fair point, I completely neglected to think of the secondary item number. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 24, 2023, 01:37:58 pm
Had to change the descriptor for Castlevania: Curse of Darkness . Initially I was using the Library Year, however Italy seems to have multiple releases with the same year. Trying to keep the descriptor consistent through all releases.

My only concern is if it is still alright to use just a tld in some of the listings as it may become a little confusing.
Eg. Both being Spanish listings
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (7124291)
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness [ES]

Happy to change the titles from including tlds to only using descriptors if this isn't appropriate usage.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 24, 2023, 05:03:52 pm
My only concern is if it is still alright to use just a tld in some of the listings as it may become a little confusing.
Eg. Both being Spanish listings
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (7124291)
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness [ES]

Happy to change the titles from including tlds to only using descriptors if this isn't appropriate usage.

Technically, those two entry names together are fine to use. Although, like you've mentioned, it is best to maintain a consistent descriptor and TLD usage for variants, so Castlevania: Curse of Darkness [ES] would eventually and ideally need to be Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (NNNNNNN) once confirmed while adding in the Description field that the item was sold in Spain. European reprints for PlayStation 2 items can especially be confusing since it is difficult to confirm with full confidence spine differences. To give insight into some regional variant releases I've worked on within the category that relied upon the same descriptor information, here are the Silent Hill 4 (https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/119/%22silent%20hill%204%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter) and Silent Hill: Origins (https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/119/%22silent%20hill%3A%20origins%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter) entries from across Europe.

I am not sure who approved your other edits for 234209 (https://vgcollect.com/item/234209) and 234216 (https://vgcollect.com/item/234216), but TLDs should not be used with that kind of descriptor. The reason is because the descriptor is unique to those specific items individually, such as the 7124284 descriptor being only exclusive to a French release and not something like a German release as well. I have removed the TLDs from both entries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 27, 2023, 03:49:32 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/202684

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Admin comments: Re-submit without mention of "EU version." It is the FR version, but that information is also redundant. Only mention the French text manual and requirements.

Why i can't write in description about EU version? It's not french, u can choose 11 languages at start and only Fr - is manual and covers...


And for future.. i always think that its normal if u write in description about game language and manuals, if they are different from version to version... F.e. we have many RU versions with only manual translated, while all game are 100% identical to EU release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 27, 2023, 11:24:33 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/202684

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Admin comments: Re-submit without mention of "EU version." It is the FR version, but that information is also redundant. Only mention the French text manual and requirements.

Why i can't write in description about EU version? It's not french, u can choose 11 languages at start and only Fr - is manual and covers...

This entry does not represent the EU release but instead the FR release. Therefore, stating that this item is the former is incorrect. With that said, even correcting the Description information by stating that this item is the FR version would be redundant, as the entry name TLD already clarifies that. If this item were the EU release, stating in the Description field that it is so would also be repeating information, as it would already be made clear from its PlayStation 2 [EU] category placement. A lot of different kinds of information can be supplied to the Description field for all entries, but we should minimize repeating information that is already made clear from other fields such as the Name field, in this instance. The "requirements" information about the EyeToy Camera being required for play is fine to add. Information about the instruction booklet language text can also be submitted.

If I am understanding what you mean by the quoted post, the game disc is what you're clarifying to be the "EU version." If there are a multitude of selectable in-game language options, they may be listed. It is not important to us if the FR game disc is the same game disc as the EU release. Entries should be handled as single entities that do not mention other entries.

I also handled your recent edit submission for EyeToy: Monkey Mania [GR][RU][PT] (https://vgcollect.com/item/234299) where you mention the item being the "EU release." If I were submitting information to the field, I would state something like the below text.


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includes:
• instruction booklet in Greek, Portuguese, Russian

(11 languages listed altogether) as selectable in-game language options
EyeToy Camera required

However, you may obviously format that information to your preference as there is no standardized formatting for the field, but some way comparable would ideally be how to submit this kind of information.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: depressor on January 28, 2023, 09:31:35 am
Now i understand why people leave this field empty) OK. Gonna search this info on sites about games releases.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 28, 2023, 04:19:06 pm
The front cover art for https://vgcollect.com/item/60213 does not match the back and media art.

There are 3 versions (different box types not tlds) of Cel damage that I can find released

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134421383391 (grey and black circles)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225250093049 (white and grey circles)
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/155381758292 https://www.tradera.com/item/340702/314664134/cel-damage-overdrive-sony-playstation-2-ps2-pal-racing-spel-engelsk-utgava-

Not sure which version you'd prefer as front cover is native to listing
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on January 28, 2023, 10:48:16 pm
Sorry ended up generating a blank.

https://vgcollect.com/item/234435

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 29, 2023, 10:45:44 am
The front cover art for https://vgcollect.com/item/60213 does not match the back and media art.

Not sure which version you'd prefer as front cover is native to listing

The back cover art for each of the three releases is also unique despite sharing the same barcode. 60213 (https://vgcollect.com/item/60213) features "white and grey circles" back artwork, so the front art slot should match accordingly.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 30, 2023, 09:57:45 am
Not sure which version you'd prefer as front cover is native to listing

Front image removed
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Warmsignal on February 02, 2023, 11:16:10 am
Grid Legend on PS4. Listing under [NA] region shows [MX] version and wrong cover image.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on February 02, 2023, 11:59:32 am
You'll need to post a link because I don't find that title in search.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on February 02, 2023, 03:45:28 pm
Grid Legend on PS4. Listing under [NA] region shows [MX] version and wrong cover image.

[NA] categories allow for more than just US releases. CA and MX releases are allowed as well. Submit a new entry for whichever release you are wanting to add, because the existing MX entry is not to be changed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: mrmette on February 08, 2023, 08:54:07 am
Rejected edit to Analogue Pocket Dock.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168549

The release date was rejected because:
Admin comments: Items shipped and received sometime in 2023. "Fulfillment Group C: 2023" https://store.analogue.co

But this is Group C, so the 3rd fulfillment group. The first one was sent out at the end of 2021, I don't know when the second one was sent out.

All the products had an actual release date of December 2021, but there were a lot of delays because they had trouble getting the correct chips because of COVID.
I managed to get the actual Analogue Pocket in group A, it was sent out to me on December 14th 2021. I didn't order the dock back then, but the dock released at the same time.

I ordered my dock a little after that and got a Group C fullfilment date (so 2023) with that order. I just received my dock a week or 2 ago.

I am sure the original release date was December 13th 2021, just like the Analogue Pocket itself was.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168444
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on February 08, 2023, 09:24:58 am
Rejected edit to Analogue Pocket Dock.
https://vgcollect.com/item/168549

Thanks for the clarification. Because this is an online exclusive item, I've refrained from updating the Day field since we cannot determine exactly when the item was actually received by those ordering it. December 2021 is fine, which I confirmed from YouTube unboxing videos.

I do not recall seeing an edit for the Release Type which has recently been approved for Official Release, but I have again updated it to Unofficial Release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on February 10, 2023, 04:31:41 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/87942

Barcode to image is 887256023577

887256015787 is a different version (Contains pre-order bonus)




https://vgcollect.com/item/154620
Image has SIAE but barcode is UK Release. Not sure if this would be an issue.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on February 13, 2023, 11:00:33 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/154620
Image has SIAE but barcode is UK Release. Not sure if this would be an issue.

Not SIAE, it is the Playstation hologram.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on February 13, 2023, 11:06:41 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/154620
Image has SIAE but barcode is UK Release. Not sure if this would be an issue.

Not SIAE, it is the Playstation hologram.

The SIAE label is present.

(https://i.imgur.com/jEbPyOT.jpg)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on February 13, 2023, 05:12:52 pm
I didn't even see it.
Anyways, Italy sometimes will import multiple versions, so you'll have to do a deep look on this if possible.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: brownd on February 25, 2023, 09:51:53 am
Hi, need to clarify an edit I was making on this item:
https://vgcollect.com/item/205435 (https://vgcollect.com/item/205435)

I was adding the (Premium) descriptor to distinguish it from the initial release, which I have now submitted as well:
https://vgcollect.com/item/235925 (https://vgcollect.com/item/235925)

205435 is described as "ES-TRACKMANIA UNITED FOREVER PREMIUM" on back cover, 235925 as "ES-TRACKMANIA UNITED FOREVER".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on February 25, 2023, 10:01:30 am
Hi, need to clarify an edit I was making on this item:
https://vgcollect.com/item/205435 (https://vgcollect.com/item/205435)

I was adding the (Premium) descriptor to distinguish it from the initial release, which I have now submitted as well:
https://vgcollect.com/item/235925 (https://vgcollect.com/item/235925)

205435 is described as "ES-TRACKMANIA UNITED FOREVER PREMIUM" on back cover, 235925 as "ES-TRACKMANIA UNITED FOREVER".

The original edit you submitted was prior to submitting an entry for the non-Premium version, which is why it was rejected then, as a descriptor would not have been necessary. However, the formatting was also wrong, since there is no need for an attached TLD, as there is currently only one Premium item in the database currently. I've updated the entry name for 205435 (https://vgcollect.com/item/205435) to TrackMania United Forever (Premium) as well as updating the Description field to indicate that it's a Spanish release.

With that said, there is also a generic third entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/118377) in the category. I can't find any evidence of a non-Spanish release, so this entry may just need to be merged into 235925. If this were done, the ES TLD modifier would then be removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: brownd on February 25, 2023, 10:17:39 am
The original edit you submitted was prior to submitting an entry for the non-Premium version, which is why it was rejected then, as neither edition formatting or a descriptor would have been necessary.
I realized too late I hadn't clicked the submit button on that one yet, my apologies for the confusion.

With that said, there is also a generic third entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/118377) in the category. I can't find any evidence of a non-Spanish release, so this entry may just need to be merged into 235925. If this were done, the ES TLD modifier would then be removed.
Could've been meant for the original French release (https://www.amazon.fr/Nadeo-3512289014175-Trackmania-united-forever/dp/B0016PW6OG/) (digital placeholder artwork matches) which is actually branded as Édition Limitée (Limited Edition) on the box
Only other release I can find without extra branding is this one from Germany (https://www.ebay.com/itm/295521928576).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on February 28, 2023, 05:23:48 pm
With that said, there is also a generic third entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/118377) in the category. I can't find any evidence of a non-Spanish release, so this entry may just need to be merged into 235925. If this were done, the ES TLD modifier would then be removed.
Could've been meant for the original French release (https://www.amazon.fr/Nadeo-3512289014175-Trackmania-united-forever/dp/B0016PW6OG/) (digital placeholder artwork matches) which is actually branded as Édition Limitée (Limited Edition) on the box
Only other release I can find without extra branding is this one from Germany (https://www.ebay.com/itm/295521928576).

What I meant is that there doesn't seem to be a non-Spanish release with the same artwork that isn't some kind of edition release. Since 118377 is generic, we can only work off of its current artwork as that is the only identifying information available to us.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on March 15, 2023, 03:18:33 am
Accidentally created a blank entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/237343 (https://vgcollect.com/item/237343)

So it turns out you shouldn't move image files before submitting a new item in the database, I thought images uploaded immediately but they don't.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on March 19, 2023, 03:28:17 pm
Back box art for https://vgcollect.com/item/97614 is incorrect - should feature Pidgey and Rattata in the image as only the 1st release had Sandshrew/Meowth
https://www.ebay.com/itm/385385316638

Additionally I'm not sure the item descriptor works as the second release also changed the back image to Pidgey/Rattata but has a White ESRB rating. Not sure what would be best to change it to. Possibly (White ESRB / Sandshrew) (White ESRB / Pidgey) ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325576503802
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on March 19, 2023, 04:06:58 pm
Back box art for https://vgcollect.com/item/97614 is incorrect - should feature Pidgey and Rattata in the image as only the 1st release had Sandshrew/Meowth
https://www.ebay.com/itm/385385316638

Additionally I'm not sure the item descriptor works as the second release also changed the back image to Pidgey/Rattata but has a White ESRB rating. Not sure what would be best to change it to. Possibly (White ESRB / Sandshrew) (White ESRB / Pidgey) ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325576503802

I couldn't identify any other discerning information between the two white ESRB boxes, so using the screenshot information as part of the descriptor seems ideal. If the third entry is submitted, then all three entries should be formatted like this:
Pokémon Blue Version (white ESRB / Sandshrew)
Pokémon Blue Version (white ESRB / Rattata)
Pokémon Blue Version (black ESRB)

Then, for all three entries, either "'Enemy RATTATA used TACKLE!' / 'SANDSHREW used POISON STING!' screenshot on back cover" should be submitted to the Description field.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: snyderec3 on March 29, 2023, 12:45:16 am
This entry for Super Mario World exists despite all variants already having separate entries.

https://vgcollect.com/item/238550

This one has inconsistent information from several variants. The box art is from either the original slotted or locking cartridge variant, which does not mesh with the ESRB rating, as SMW did not receive an ESRB rating until the Player's Choice release. The item number is incorrect. That item number is for the physical shell of the SNES cartridge, not SMW specifically and is present on every SNES game. The barcode is from the EU PAL release, not any of the North American releases.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on March 31, 2023, 01:04:59 am
Ended up with a blank entry.

https://vgcollect.com/item/238676

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on April 03, 2023, 09:27:06 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/238897

blank one.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Agozer on April 12, 2023, 11:09:49 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/186332

I'm fairly sure this one should have the [UK] tag at the end of the title.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: vivigamer on April 16, 2023, 03:11:50 am
Unless I am wrong, I thought there was not a Phsyical Release of Nier: Automata - Become as Gods Edition on Xbox One?
Physical - https://vgcollect.com/item/145763
Digital - https://vgcollect.com/item/181990
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on April 17, 2023, 10:17:23 am
Unless I am wrong, I thought there was not a Phsyical Release of Nier: Automata - Become as Gods Edition on Xbox One?
Physical - https://vgcollect.com/item/145763
Digital - https://vgcollect.com/item/181990

It doesn't look there is a physical release in a box like on that front art, but is there a code card? There are code card mockups on Ebay, if a code card exists than it can be put into that category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: snyderec3 on April 19, 2023, 07:45:57 pm
Can I get some clarification as to why the update to the release date of FF Pixel Remaster was rejected?

(https://i.imgur.com/1Nl8jw9.jpg)

Unless I am misunderstanding, the comment seems to be saying that this is a digital only release?

This is incorrect, as I have the physical release in my possession:

(https://i.imgur.com/HlZkgco.jpg)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on April 19, 2023, 08:16:11 pm
Can I get some clarification as to why the update to the release date of FF Pixel Remaster was rejected?

Unless I am misunderstanding, the comment seems to be saying that this is a digital only release?

This is incorrect, as I have the physical release in my possession

Because these items are new, there is limited information about them using typical sources our site relies upon, such as GameFAQs (release date Q2 2023 (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/391322-final-fantasy-pixel-remaster-ff35th-anniversary-edition/data)) and eBay (all available and sold listings utilize marketing art (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=final+fantasy+pixel+remaster+ff35th+anniversary+edition&_sacat=0)), which is still the case. I could not verify any item being a "FF35th Anniversary Edition" having been released. Currently, the two entries FF35th Anniversary Edition entries feature no art—however, they before featured the same artwork as the standard releases and not anything specific as to what the FF3th Anniversary Edition actually looks like. I removed that artwork to avoid further confusion.

Now, I can not verify anything from your photo pertinent to the item itself. Is the large item a box? Does it mention FF35th Anniversary Edition anywhere on the box itself? If not, then the entry should be renamed to Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster (box) with FF35th Anniversary Edition supplied to the Alt-name field. Was the actual game keepcase housed inside of the box, or was it packaged separately? If the latter, then the entry will need to be moved to a Swag category. I am asking now because this is a ongoing trend with limited edition type items.

For now, obviously the entry's information can be updated to Official Release with April 2023 as the Release Date. To my knowledge, this item is exclusive to online storefronts only, so determining when the item was actually available in-hand after mailing is difficult. For instance, the item may have had an advertised April 19 2023 date, but the information you submitted was on April 18 2023, so it seems that there are some who received the item early, and there are surely some who have yet to receive their pre-order. The "[d]igital only" comment could have been better explained, but I could only verify the digital item having releasing on April 19.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: snyderec3 on April 19, 2023, 09:08:21 pm
Can I get some clarification as to why the update to the release date of FF Pixel Remaster was rejected?

Unless I am misunderstanding, the comment seems to be saying that this is a digital only release?

This is incorrect, as I have the physical release in my possession

Because these items are new, there is limited information about them using typical sources our site relies upon, such as GameFAQs (release date Q2 2023 (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/391322-final-fantasy-pixel-remaster-ff35th-anniversary-edition/data)) and eBay (all available and sold listings utilize marketing art (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=final+fantasy+pixel+remaster+ff35th+anniversary+edition&_sacat=0)), which is still the case. I could not verify any item being a "FF35th Anniversary Edition" having been released. Currently, the two entries FF35th Anniversary Edition entries feature no art—however, they before featured the same artwork as the standard releases and not anything specific as to what the FF3th Anniversary Edition actually looks like. I removed that artwork to avoid further confusion.

Now, I can not verify anything from your photo pertinent to the item itself. Is the large item a box? Does it mention FF35th Anniversary Edition anywhere on the box itself? If not, then the entry should be renamed to Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster (box) with FF35th Anniversary Edition supplied to the Alt-name field. Was the actual game keepcase housed inside of the box, or was it packaged separately? If the latter, then the entry will need to be moved to a Swag category. I am asking now because this is a ongoing trend with limited edition type items.

For now, obviously the entry's information can be updated to Official Release with April 2023 as the Release Date. To my knowledge, this item is exclusive to online storefronts only, so determining when the item was actually available in-hand after mailing is difficult. For instance, the item may have had an advertised April 19 2023 date, but the information you submitted was on April 18 2023, so it seems that there are some who received the item early, and there are surely some who have yet to receive their pre-order. The "[d]igital only" comment could have been better explained, but I could only verify the digital item having releasing on April 19.


The "FF35th Anniversary Edition" does not appear on the game, but rather came from the developer's storefront as seen here. The release date of 19 April 23 is also indicated here:

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9k6SLD.jpg)

Some notes on the packaging:
The box contains the limited edition swag that comes with this release.

The game with its lenticular sleeve are packaged together, but separately from the swag box. The standard edition does not have the lenticular sleeve, as per the description of each edition on the storefront.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on April 20, 2023, 09:29:54 am
Since Snyderec picture is "compromised" you can see the purchase includes 2 items
- the box
- the game with the sleeve
Seen in this unboxing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzv1mEGCoqM
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on April 20, 2023, 10:01:05 am
Can I get some clarification as to why the update to the release date of FF Pixel Remaster was rejected?

Unless I am misunderstanding, the comment seems to be saying that this is a digital only release?

This is incorrect, as I have the physical release in my possession

Because these items are new, there is limited information about them using typical sources our site relies upon, such as GameFAQs (release date Q2 2023 (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/391322-final-fantasy-pixel-remaster-ff35th-anniversary-edition/data)) and eBay (all available and sold listings utilize marketing art (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=final+fantasy+pixel+remaster+ff35th+anniversary+edition&_sacat=0)), which is still the case. I could not verify any item being a "FF35th Anniversary Edition" having been released. Currently, the two entries FF35th Anniversary Edition entries feature no art—however, they before featured the same artwork as the standard releases and not anything specific as to what the FF3th Anniversary Edition actually looks like. I removed that artwork to avoid further confusion.

Now, I can not verify anything from your photo pertinent to the item itself. Is the large item a box? Does it mention FF35th Anniversary Edition anywhere on the box itself? If not, then the entry should be renamed to Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster (box) with FF35th Anniversary Edition supplied to the Alt-name field. Was the actual game keepcase housed inside of the box, or was it packaged separately? If the latter, then the entry will need to be moved to a Swag category. I am asking now because this is a ongoing trend with limited edition type items.

For now, obviously the entry's information can be updated to Official Release with April 2023 as the Release Date. To my knowledge, this item is exclusive to online storefronts only, so determining when the item was actually available in-hand after mailing is difficult. For instance, the item may have had an advertised April 19 2023 date, but the information you submitted was on April 18 2023, so it seems that there are some who received the item early, and there are surely some who have yet to receive their pre-order. The "[d]igital only" comment could have been better explained, but I could only verify the digital item having releasing on April 19.


The "FF35th Anniversary Edition" does not appear on the game, but rather came from the developer's storefront as seen here. The release date of 19 April 23 is also indicated here:

Some notes on the packaging:
The box contains the limited edition swag that comes with this release.

The game with its lenticular sleeve are packaged together, but separately from the swag box. The standard edition does not have the lenticular sleeve, as per the description of each edition on the storefront.

So, because of how this "one" release was packaged with the game being separate from the actual limited edition item, the two FF35th Anniversary Edition entries have been condensed into one and then placed in the Swag - Toys/Novelties category. The lenticular sleeve is also able to have its own unique entry placed in the Nintendo Switch Accessories category based on the same criteria.

I've updated the one 35th Anniversary Edition entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/edit/232795). If you are wanting to add the actual Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster game to your collection, then a Switch entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/232752) for it already exists.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on April 28, 2023, 12:10:53 am
Here to preempt a possible rejection. I edited the following item: https://vgcollect.com/item/31910 (https://vgcollect.com/item/31910) to add on "(CD)" as this entry uses a version that has an extra sticker/label to indicate it has a CD included as a first time limited benefit (I'm guessing that means a first print run bonus sort of deal). There exists copies without the sticker/label but as I don't own one myself I don't feel comfortable adding it, plus it seems like the CD version is a lot more common anyhow.

If you think "(CD)" is lacking in description, please feel free to adjust it as you like.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on April 28, 2023, 10:03:17 am
Here to preempt a possible rejection. I edited the following item: https://vgcollect.com/item/31910 (https://vgcollect.com/item/31910) to add on "(CD)" as this entry uses a version that has an extra sticker/label to indicate it has a CD included as a first time limited benefit (I'm guessing that means a first print run bonus sort of deal). There exists copies without the sticker/label but as I don't own one myself I don't feel comfortable adding it, plus it seems like the CD version is a lot more common anyhow.

If you think "(CD)" is lacking in description, please feel free to adjust it as you like.

Pre-emptive posts before edits rarely will help because going to the forum isn't first thing we do. Sorry.

Anyways there is one without the label on Mercari and doesn't include the CD, and one without the label on YAJ that does include the CD. So at this point, if it can't be confirmed with a sealed copy that a release without the label exists, then we will have to believe that any instances without the label are just ones where the label was removed. If we/someone finds a sealed one later (or is able to otherwise confirm the release) we can add the var then.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: vivigamer on April 29, 2023, 04:14:48 am
Hi just a question,

I've seen on the PS5 Listings their are PSVR2 Boxsets listed under the games catagory, would this not be better suited to accessories?
https://vgcollect.com/item/238698

I know it includes a Digital version of Horizon Call of the Mountain but as it is not a physical copy of  the game I would have thought that wouldn't count. Nit-picky I know but I saw it and thought I may as well check - Sorry if this topic has been brought up alreadys.

I looked to see an unboxing to confirm the Horizon game is on a code:
https://youtu.be/E33cKjlML9I?t=232
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on April 29, 2023, 09:28:02 am
I've seen on the PS5 Listings their are PSVR2 Boxsets listed under the games catagory, would this not be better suited to accessories?
https://vgcollect.com/item/238698

I know it includes a Digital version of Horizon Call of the Mountain but as it is not a physical copy of  the game I would have thought that wouldn't count. Nit-picky I know but I saw it and thought I may as well check - Sorry if this topic has been brought up alreadys.

I looked to see an unboxing to confirm the Horizon game is on a code:
https://youtu.be/E33cKjlML9I?t=232

The Horizon Call of the Mountain example is no different than the code-in-a-box items placed in physical categories which include vouchers. The idea is that the voucher is still a physical component, unlike some instances where items only include the game code separately via e-mail or paper receipt.

That being said, it seems as if you understand that accessories with games and games with accessories are to be placed in Game categories and not Accessories categories, so for these items to be placed in PlayStation 5 categories is correct.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 01, 2023, 04:12:47 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/139908
picture is not of the "limited day one edition". Those should have a banner below the PS4 logo. Like the Xbox release https://vgcollect.com/item/234076
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 01, 2023, 05:50:10 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/139908
picture is not of the "limited day one edition". Those should have a banner below the PS4 logo. Like the Xbox release https://vgcollect.com/item/234076

Be aware that many older entries contain errors in some capacity. With that said, there is no "standard" non-Limited Day One Edition release for this item, meaning this entry did feature outdated stock art, although I've since updated it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on May 05, 2023, 12:26:28 am
Blanks

https://vgcollect.com/item/240956
https://vgcollect.com/item/240958


Sorry I try to keep the images small but sometimes it still ends up with a blank entry.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 06, 2023, 03:06:13 pm
Quote
Field:    Name
New Value:    MX vs ATV All Out
Reason:    Incorrect Formatting. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Common name rule. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xboxone/221452-mx-vs-atv-all-out

fine - still half of the games are without dot, half of the games have a dot. On the game box, manual or in game the dot is never written.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 06, 2023, 08:06:57 pm
Quote
Field:    Name
New Value:    MX vs ATV All Out
Reason:    Incorrect Formatting. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: Common name rule. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xboxone/221452-mx-vs-atv-all-out

fine - still half of the games are without dot, half of the games have a dot. On the game box, manual or in game the dot is never written.

I have updated the remaining 2 of 7 entries so that all entries (https://vgcollect.com/search/%22atv%20all%20out%22) now read MX vs. ATV All Out, as that is the common name source, per GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xboxone/221452-mx-vs-atv-all-out).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on May 06, 2023, 09:04:23 pm
I got to leave a comment here. somebody posted allot of ps1 pal front box art while the art is still in the case. While many of these listings where perfectly fine prior to this. allot of listings look really bad atm

The art is either damaged or the box is damaged which is shown on said box art. or a reflection of the background is in said picture or it's out of place.

Tried to replace these with decent quality covers that lack these imperfections. but allot of them got rejected for missing the hologram.

The hologram ain't even on the box art it's just on the plastic case. This is not a thing you should reject it is not part of the box art. and it will result in really shitty pics because of mostly damaged boxes. and at the very least a reflection of the background.

it's also fun that people change listings of games that most would consider english. to spanish etc which results in a new english listing being created that nobody has in the collection because everyone is left at the version that they don't have anymore.

examples of horrible looking listings that got rejected because of lacking hologram

https://vgcollect.com/item/226806
https://vgcollect.com/item/231238
https://vgcollect.com/item/19385
https://vgcollect.com/item/233763

also in the above examples even if a new picture has less pixels. These above pictures look so bad that an exception should be made for nice looking replacements with less pixels. It's easy to get a super high resolution with a camera but in this condition surely it ain't the best option

Even the best case scenario's that I didn't list are off picture and or with light reflections

If you are going to include the hologram for pal ps1 games which ain't part of the box art the quality of the pictures will look terrible compared to everything else on the site. I would exclude this restriction it ain't great to get box art on this site that is still in the plastic case. even if it's done really well.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: zappman on May 06, 2023, 09:25:08 pm
I got to leave a comment here. somebody posted allot of ps1 pal front box art while the art is still in the case. While many of these listings where perfectly fine prior to this. allot of listings look really bad atm

The art is either damaged or the box is damaged which is shown on said box art. or a reflection of the background is in said picture or it's out of place.

Tried to replace these with decent quality covers that lack these imperfections. but allot of them got rejected for missing the hologram.

The hologram ain't even on the box art it's just on the plastic case. This is not a thing you should reject it is not part of the box art. and it will result in really shitty pics because of mostly damaged boxes. and at the very least a reflection of the background.

it's also fun that people change listings of games that most would consider english. to spanish etc which results in a new english listing being created that nobody has in the collection because everyone is left at the version that they don't have anymore.

examples of horrible looking listings that got rejected because of lacking hologram

https://vgcollect.com/item/226806
https://vgcollect.com/item/231238
https://vgcollect.com/item/19385
https://vgcollect.com/item/233763

also in the above examples even if a new picture has less pixels. These above pictures look so bad that an exception should be made for nice looking replacements with less pixels. It's easy to get a super high resolution with a camera but in this condition surely it ain't the best option

Even the best case scenario's that I didn't list are off picture and or with light reflections

If you are going to include the hologram for pal ps1 games which ain't part of the box art the quality of the pictures will look terrible compared to everything else on the site. I would exclude this restriction it ain't great to get box art on this site that is still in the plastic case. even if it's done really well.
+1
I agree
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on May 07, 2023, 07:38:06 am
These got rejected for whatever reason

Which would have been a decent compromise if you really need to have a hologram on there

all hologram lables on pal games are identical they just have 2 different pictures depending on how you reflect them in the light it is all identical. you can't even notice it was edited on especially with the picture size that is on the site.

(https://i.imgur.com/gbgXJFJ.png)

Even the best case scenario's such as this one don't look to hot and offcenter. plus you see the plastic hinges at the bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/vxcm99G.jpg)

I will say, this is really dissapointing. This is a major downgrade to the site it is pretty sad to see

I hope more will complain and that we get the old system back withouth a hologram. who ever decided that this is the way to go oof, you downgraded something for the sake of stuff that almost nobody is going to care about.

Can we maybe have a voting system for these kinda changes in the future for changes of these kinda scale this is just poor


Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 07, 2023, 09:43:02 am
yet another frankenstein entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/35399

front and back cover are from the [DE] re-release, disc image is afaik [PL]-Version.

edit:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/241082 was created by me. Obviously something went wrong - I assume because my added pictures were to large. If the side has an file size limit it would be good if the size limitation would cause an error.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: fazerco on May 07, 2023, 12:39:06 pm
These got rejected for whatever reason

Which would have been a decent compromise if you really need to have a hologram on there

all hologram lables on pal games are identical they just have 2 different pictures depending on how you reflect them in the light it is all identical. you can't even notice it was edited on especially with the picture size that is on the site.

(https://i.imgur.com/gbgXJFJ.png)

Even the best case scenario's such as this one don't look to hot and offcenter. plus you see the plastic hinges at the bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/vxcm99G.jpg)

I will say, this is really dissapointing. This is a major downgrade to the site it is pretty sad to see

I hope more will complain and that we get the old system back withouth a hologram. who ever decided that this is the way to go oof, you downgraded something for the sake of stuff that almost nobody is going to care about.

Can we maybe have a voting system for these kinda changes in the future for changes of these kinda scale this is just poor


And i dont agree with you. What happens is they get 'nice' scans from other sites that dont match the item they are entering. Give credit to those who atleast try to enter the games they have instead of stealing pictures from other sites. Or better, become a member of that site so you dont have to 'borrow' those pictures.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on May 07, 2023, 01:09:05 pm

And i dont agree with you. What happens is they get 'nice' scans from other sites that dont match the item they are entering. Give credit to those who atleast try to enter the games they have instead of stealing pictures from other sites. Or better, become a member of that site so you dont have to 'borrow' those pictures.

I respect that opinion it be that way I guess.

That being said, I could be wrong but isn't a majority of this database pictures of other sites? and even allot of these examples are of 2nd hand listings not necesarrily own copies. because I've seen quite a few of these listings with zero copies in someone's collection.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 07, 2023, 01:13:35 pm
And i dont agree with you. What happens is they get 'nice' scans from other sites that dont match the item they are entering. Give credit to those who atleast try to enter the games they have instead of stealing pictures from other sites. Or better, become a member of that site so you dont have to 'borrow' those pictures.

I respect that opinion it be that way I guess.

That being said, I could be wrong but isn't a majority of this database pictures of other sites? and even allot of these examples are of 2nd hand listings not necesarrily own copies. because I've seen quite a few of these listings with zero copies in someone's collection.

You are correct, sworddude. There is nothing wrong with submitting images from other sources, and we even encourage it. If our site relied on personal scans alone from our members, an overwhelmingly majority of entries would have no images. But, as fazerco mentioned, any taken image should be correct and match the entry they're being attached to.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 08, 2023, 11:06:22 am
These got rejected for whatever reason

Which would have been a decent compromise if you really need to have a hologram on there

all hologram lables on pal games are identical they just have 2 different pictures depending on how you reflect them in the light it is all identical. you can't even notice it was edited on especially with the picture size that is on the site.

(https://i.imgur.com/gbgXJFJ.png)

Even the best case scenario's such as this one don't look to hot and offcenter. plus you see the plastic hinges at the bottom

Those replacement images look good to me and would be a better quality. Now of course an old rule in the Style Guide is to not photoshop images, but this is a general case rule as many people using "photoshop" usually results in:
- bad quality images
- images for things that do not match reality

It would be a lie to say that there aren't images that aren't edited to make them look right. But at the image sizes we're talking about, you can't tell that they are edited. I'm not going to go into any further detail than that.

Another thing to point out, that we are not like other sites that just focus on what the manual or case insert art is. The entry is for the overall item, not for the artwork, not for a game. We wen't past simply tracking games when whoever decided to make different entries for 3 and 5 screw NES carts. So in reality, every game in the PlayStation cats should be showing the jewel case. Like every game using a keep case should be showing the case and not just the cover. There are details missed when that is omitted, such as the case having a certain color, or in the case of PS1 where the jewel case has a transparent inlay or not.

So in my opinion, the images with the hologram are good, but not good because it has a reflection (or we can see the cameraman which is always bad). The edited images that basically put the hologram onto the art insert are better in comparison to the reflection and would be preferred. However the ideal image would be a full scan of the front of the jewel case.
For example, the images for this entry were created using a scanner and not a camera:
https://vgcollect.com/item/239746
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 08, 2023, 02:28:37 pm
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/3827

uses cover of the Linux release. But doubt that 22 users have really the linux version. Very likely the normal US version
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 08, 2023, 02:53:35 pm
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/3827

uses cover of the Linux release. But doubt that 22 users have really the linux version. Very likely the normal US version

It is unimportant to us how many users are attached to an entry or if they actually do or do not own the item it represents. With that said, the front art for 3827 is original to the entry creation, so it should not be overwritten unless the same information is supplied. That said, 3827 represents the Linux release, so all subsequent information added to it should relate to that specific item. If a non-Linux version also exists, then it may be submitted to the database as a new entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on May 08, 2023, 06:19:49 pm
These got rejected for whatever reason

Which would have been a decent compromise if you really need to have a hologram on there

all hologram lables on pal games are identical they just have 2 different pictures depending on how you reflect them in the light it is all identical. you can't even notice it was edited on especially with the picture size that is on the site.

(https://i.imgur.com/gbgXJFJ.png)

Even the best case scenario's such as this one don't look to hot and offcenter. plus you see the plastic hinges at the bottom

Those replacement images look good to me and would be a better quality. Now of course an old rule in the Style Guide is to not photoshop images, but this is a general case rule as many people using "photoshop" usually results in:
- bad quality images
- images for things that do not match reality

It would be a lie to say that there aren't images that aren't edited to make them look right. But at the image sizes we're talking about, you can't tell that they are edited. I'm not going to go into any further detail than that.

Another thing to point out, that we are not like other sites that just focus on what the manual or case insert art is. The entry is for the overall item, not for the artwork, not for a game. We wen't past simply tracking games when whoever decided to make different entries for 3 and 5 screw NES carts. So in reality, every game in the PlayStation cats should be showing the jewel case. Like every game using a keep case should be showing the case and not just the cover. There are details missed when that is omitted, such as the case having a certain color, or in the case of PS1 where the jewel case has a transparent inlay or not.

So in my opinion, the images with the hologram are good, but not good because it has a reflection (or we can see the cameraman which is always bad). The edited images that basically put the hologram onto the art insert are better in comparison to the reflection and would be preferred. However the ideal image would be a full scan of the front of the jewel case.
For example, the images for this entry were created using a scanner and not a camera:
https://vgcollect.com/item/239746

so should I resend these images or no?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 08, 2023, 08:16:43 pm
so should I resend these images or no?

You can, and they will be approved, yes. The reason why they were rejected before is because edited photos are mentioned in the style guide as something not to do but can be allowed on a case-by-case basis, so I needed someone else to provide their feedback.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on May 08, 2023, 09:25:18 pm
Great, nice to hear
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on May 09, 2023, 05:18:44 pm
There does not appear to be any solid evidence of this games existence - https://vgcollect.com/item/169270 .
Most likely did not release as it appears Xicat interactive became defunct in 2003 Only thing suggesting its release is a date on gamefaqs which is February 13, 2004.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: ignition365 on May 10, 2023, 08:55:47 am
Chrono Sword
https://vgcollect.com/item/211447

Game doesn't exist for Switch, it's not out on any platform, and there is no pending physical release in any region.

Cops 911
https://vgcollect.com/item/140247
Game doesn't exist at all.  I confirmed with Toplitz Productions years ago that it was cancelled.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 10, 2023, 09:53:02 am
There does not appear to be any solid evidence of this games existence - https://vgcollect.com/item/169270 .
Most likely did not release as it appears Xicat interactive became defunct in 2003 Only thing suggesting its release is a date on gamefaqs which is February 13, 2004.

Corroboration here: https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Air_Ranger_2:_Rescue_Helicopter
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 10, 2023, 09:57:39 am
Chrono Sword
https://vgcollect.com/item/211447

Game doesn't exist for Switch, it's not out on any platform, and there is no pending physical release in any region.

Chrono Sword is a Kickstarter game that hopes to release on digital storefronts, but has not been announced.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gameround/chrono-sword-0?lang=ja

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on May 13, 2023, 04:00:04 am
Accidentally created a blank item: https://vgcollect.com/item/241518 (https://vgcollect.com/item/241518)

Please delete it, thank you.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 13, 2023, 05:23:23 am
LittleBIGPlanet vs LitteBigPlanet - don't know where to go but all entries of the series are written identical on the cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 13, 2023, 09:01:10 am
LittleBIGPlanet vs LitteBigPlanet - don't know where to go but all entries of the series are written identical on the cover.

Technically, both stylization choices are correct according to the style guide. However, there is really no reason we should rely on arbitrary capitalization choices for titles and instead should rely on sentence-case. With that said, LittleBigPlanet is much more preferred, and I would advise to use that style.

I will also note that all uppercase lettering for words or titles should only be done in instances of their being acronyms. So, something like "LEGO" should be formatted as "Lego" as it is a word of sorts, but "NASCAR" is correct because it is an acronym for National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: koemo1 on May 14, 2023, 02:13:24 pm
In the category listings:
Shouldn't Dragon's Lair (HD-DVD) [NA] https://vgcollect.com/item/105561 be moved to TV DVD Games instead of the current SWAG promo video category?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 14, 2023, 03:17:40 pm
In the category listings:
Shouldn't Dragon's Lair (HD-DVD) [NA] https://vgcollect.com/item/105561 be moved to TV DVD Games instead of the current SWAG promo video category?

Correct. I've updated the category for 105561.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on May 15, 2023, 09:29:14 am
Most Switch item numbers do not have dashes in them. (For example, HAC P A96QB vs HAC-P-A96QB) https://www.vgcollect.com/item/236312

Advanced style guide says to include the number as is, including dashes in PlayStation items even if they are not present. What's the consensus for Switch item numbers?

EDIT: My edits to some item numbers were rejected because we're also prioritizing regional Switch item numbers but this is also not stated in the style guide as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 15, 2023, 09:56:11 am
Most Switch item numbers do not have dashes in them. (For example, HAC P A96QB vs HAC-P-A96QB) https://www.vgcollect.com/item/236312

Advanced style guide says to include the number as is, including dashes in PlayStation items even if they are not present. What's the consensus for Switch item numbers?

Right now, numbers for all items including Nintendo Switch but with the exception of Sony items should be submitted to the Item Number field as written on packaging. So, in the instance of 236312, HAC P A96QB without hyphens should be submitted.

Quote
EDIT: My edits to some item numbers were rejected because we're also prioritizing regional Switch item numbers but this is not also prioritized in the style guide as far as I cans see.

This rule is not formally stated in the style guides, but we should prioritize information that is most specific regarding region to the item in question itself and especially when numerous regional variants exists, such as with European items.

Example:
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (https://vgcollect.com/item/206649) (general EU) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-SCN
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope [DE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/235249) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-GER
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope [UK] (https://vgcollect.com/item/241022) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-UKV

All above items share the standard product number HAC-P-A2G7A also found on the back cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on May 15, 2023, 10:03:39 am
Most Switch item numbers do not have dashes in them. (For example, HAC P A96QB vs HAC-P-A96QB) https://www.vgcollect.com/item/236312

Advanced style guide says to include the number as is, including dashes in PlayStation items even if they are not present. What's the consensus for Switch item numbers?

Right now, numbers for all items including Nintendo Switch but with the exception of Sony items should be submitted to the Item Number field as written on packaging. So, in the instance of 236312, HAC P A96QB without hyphens should be submitted.

Quote
EDIT: My edits to some item numbers were rejected because we're also prioritizing regional Switch item numbers but this is not also prioritized in the style guide as far as I cans see.

This rule is not formally stated in the style guides, but we should prioritize information that is most specific regarding region to the item in question itself and especially when numerous regional variants exists, such as with European items.

Example:
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (https://vgcollect.com/item/206649) (general EU) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-SCN
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope [DE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/235249) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-GER
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope [UK] (https://vgcollect.com/item/241022) | TSA-HAC-A2G7A-UKV

All above items share the standard product number HAC-P-A2G7A also found on the back cover.

Okay! I think regional prioritization should definitely be in the style guide as that is news to me and makes a large difference with Switch games which all have 2 numbers.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 15, 2023, 10:05:03 am
This rule is not formally stated in the style guides

It is covered in the "Items with Multiple Item Numbers" (on the back) section of the Item Number post in the ADV Guide
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178223.html#msg178223
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on May 15, 2023, 11:11:06 am
Edit to https://vgcollect.com/item/55846
The barcode information is likely referring to https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/images2/covers/SLES-53504/SLES-53504-F-ALL.html . This is actually the bottom of Club Football Ajax. The correct barcode is 5703782200877

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 15, 2023, 04:15:15 pm
why was this renamed to [DE]?
https://vgcollect.com/item/241689

this is not a german only copy. Yes there was a USK sticker added to this case, but this is a EU+UK release. There are two releases: the more uncommon Wipeout in a double cd jewel case (with just one cd...) but two manuals. and (imho) more common bread and butter package with a single manual in a typical PS1 PAL jewel case.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 15, 2023, 05:12:49 pm
why was this renamed to [DE]?
https://vgcollect.com/item/241689

this is not a german only copy. Yes there was a USK sticker added to this case, but this is a EU+UK release. There are two releases: the more uncommon Wipeout in a double cd jewel case (with just one cd...) but two manuals. and (imho) more common bread and butter package with a single manual in a typical PS1 PAL jewel case.

If there is a version of this released without the USK label that is missing from the DB you can add it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 15, 2023, 06:24:34 pm
why was this renamed to [DE]?
https://vgcollect.com/item/241689

Also something to note since it relates to how the entry was submitted, we should minimize our use of adding entire barcode sequences as entry name descriptors. So, in this instance, if there actually is a proper DE regional variant, then 241689 can instead be renamed to something like Wipeout (USK rating label).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on May 16, 2023, 08:56:56 am
Blanks

https://vgcollect.com/item/241706
https://vgcollect.com/item/241705


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on May 16, 2023, 02:37:41 pm
why was this renamed to [DE]?
https://vgcollect.com/item/241689

this is not a german only copy. Yes there was a USK sticker added to this case, but this is a EU+UK release. There are two releases: the more uncommon Wipeout in a double cd jewel case (with just one cd...) but two manuals. and (imho) more common bread and butter package with a single manual in a typical PS1 PAL jewel case.

If there is a version of this released without the USK label that is missing from the DB you can add it.

To which extend those entries should be created - if the sticker was applied by the publisher, by the distributor or by the shops itself? Even if the content itself is otherwise unchanged? If boxes have other promotion stickers - do this qualify for an additional entry?  Like this green one about a soundtrack here: https://vgcollect.com/item/241257 or "Game of the year"-stickers applied on already sold boxes. Same question for stickers like "Distributed by <company>" (even through distributors are not tracked in the database)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 17, 2023, 09:45:55 am
why was this renamed to [DE]?
https://vgcollect.com/item/241689

this is not a german only copy. Yes there was a USK sticker added to this case, but this is a EU+UK release. There are two releases: the more uncommon Wipeout in a double cd jewel case (with just one cd...) but two manuals. and (imho) more common bread and butter package with a single manual in a typical PS1 PAL jewel case.

If there is a version of this released without the USK label that is missing from the DB you can add it.

To which extend those entries should be created - if the sticker was applied by the publisher, by the distributor or by the shops itself? Even if the content itself is otherwise unchanged? If boxes have other promotion stickers - do this qualify for an additional entry?  Like this green one about a soundtrack here: https://vgcollect.com/item/241257 or "Game of the year"-stickers applied on already sold boxes. Same question for stickers like "Distributed by <company>" (even through distributors are not tracked in the database)

Store labels are not to be tracked, only official labels be it from the publisher or distributor. A label a store put on is ok but it has to be an official label.

For the example you put of the C&C game, it depends. In a situation like this, I would look to see if there are any instances of that exact item without the label. Then I would make an entry for each type.

But there is no requirement that anyone else do that. You determine your level of involvement. So you can add the other versions if you want, or wait until someone else comes along to do it. But do not be surprised if an entry name gets changed once variations get added into the site.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on May 17, 2023, 10:59:58 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/182726

Should this have the TLD [CN] to differentiate it from the Japanese release (https://vgcollect.com/item/93654)? Or something else? I'm trying to familiarize the use of the additional countries in the Japanese Xbox One category before adding things/making edits.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on May 17, 2023, 11:11:40 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/182726

Should this have the TLD [CN] to differentiate it from the Japanese release (https://vgcollect.com/item/93654)? Or something else? I'm trying to familiarize the use of the additional countries in the Japanese Xbox One category before adding things/making edits.

Yes the TLD should be there.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: ignition365 on May 19, 2023, 10:59:50 am
Fae Farm
https://vgcollect.com/item/239627

No pending physical release.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dagazconcept on May 20, 2023, 01:24:28 am
Horror Tales: The Wine
https://vgcollect.com/item/239143 (https://vgcollect.com/item/239143)

Tried to add an additional item number to description: LRHTCVR
Was rejected, please see img link.

back picture: https://imgur.com/a/NFV4aFt (https://imgur.com/a/NFV4aFt)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 20, 2023, 03:47:03 pm
Horror Tales: The Wine
https://vgcollect.com/item/239143 (https://vgcollect.com/item/239143)

Tried to add an additional item number to description: LRHTCVR
Was rejected, please see img link.

back picture: https://imgur.com/a/NFV4aFt (https://imgur.com/a/NFV4aFt)

I did not respond to your edit submission so I cannot explain as to why it was rejected, but if it is re-submitted, it should be approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: vivigamer on May 21, 2023, 02:08:07 pm
Saw this just listed - https://vgcollect.com/item/241954
I know we list Press Kits but is this really an authentic item?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on May 21, 2023, 02:24:19 pm
Saw this just listed - https://vgcollect.com/item/241954
I know we list Press Kits but is this really an authentic item?

Yes. Resident Evil Code: Veronica X was published in Australia by THQ which explains the disc design. The item is a collection of marketing materials presumably for a magazine publication.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on May 30, 2023, 01:49:54 am
Blank entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/243075 (https://vgcollect.com/item/243075)

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on June 01, 2023, 12:10:16 pm
Could use some help coming up with titles for Crash Bandicoot: Der Zorn des Cortex - Platinum .
There are 3 separate Box arts.


Old USK Style
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Crash-Bandicoot-Der-Zorn-des-Cortex-Sony-PlayStation-2-2002-/285190483961?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l44720.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

New USK Style
https://www.ebay.de/itm/174308335589?epid=7050714456&hash=item2895961
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Ps2-Spiel-Crash-Bandicoot-Der-Zorn-Des-Cortex-In-OVP-Anleitung-PAL-/225583494874?hash=item3485d2f6da%3Ag%3ADaIAAOSwo3NkZ4tb

Thanks
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 01, 2023, 12:25:55 pm
Now the immediate difference I can see is the rating.

So the first two could be something like
(Geeignet ab 6 Jahren)
(USK 6)

Now for the second two that are using the 2003 rating, the S number on the back of each is different, and only one of them has "Komplett in Deutsch" on the back. So the options for those would be either

(USK 6)
(USK 6 / Komplett in Deutsch)

or

(USK 6 / S0026252)
(USK 6 / S1000689)

And to be clear, the rating options on the site for USK are only (technically) for 2009 and newer, not the ratings that are on these items, with exceptions being 6,12,16 for 2003 version.
Ref: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on June 04, 2023, 11:52:35 pm
Blank one

https://vgcollect.com/item/244434

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 06, 2023, 08:45:19 am
Can the back art be removed from this item? https://www.vgcollect.com/item/55152

The back art from the French release while the front art is not. I made a corresponding French release of the game here https://www.vgcollect.com/item/244600

Or, there is also a duplicate that was made https://www.vgcollect.com/item/244596 which could be retained since it has more information

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 06, 2023, 09:06:58 am
No, because it is original to the entry. Merged the dupe you made.

Can the back art be removed from this item? https://www.vgcollect.com/item/55152

The back art from the French release while the front art is not. I made a corresponding French release of the game here https://www.vgcollect.com/item/244600

Or, there is also a duplicate that was made https://www.vgcollect.com/item/244596 which could be retained since it has more information
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 06, 2023, 09:09:51 am
The original item before any edits had incorrect information with one art from the French release and one from a non-French release so how do we determine which one is "original to the entry" and which one should be removed? The name did not designate a French release and the original entry had no other information so it makes more sense to me not to change it to the French version because that more likely negatively affects the users that had the item in their collection.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 06, 2023, 09:14:13 am
The original item before any edits had incorrect information with one art from the French release and one without so how do we determine which is "original to the entry"? The name did not designate a French release and the original entry had no other information so it makes more sense to me not to change it to the French version.

The back art is original to the entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 06, 2023, 09:14:56 am
The original item before any edits had incorrect information with one art from the French release and one without so how do we determine which is "original to the entry"? The name did not designate a French release and the original entry had no other information so it makes more sense to me not to change it to the French version.

The back art is original to the entry.

Yes I know, but the front art, which is also original to the entry, is not from the French release. So one has to be removed or replaced regardless.

The French front art says "Le Jue Officiel de System 3" The current art says "The Official Game from System 3"
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 06, 2023, 09:25:55 am
I was not able to see a clear enough difference (especially that text) in the resolution the site uses. Other than it was clear the dupe you made had a front image with the seal present. In the future, you should state that the entry is a franken-entry and the actual differences. You can't read minds and neither can the rest of us, so we would approach this like I had done this time. Since now it is too late to do anything about this issue, I recommend you put the FR front art on this entry https://www.vgcollect.com/item/55152 that you had originally put onto the dupe that was merged.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 06, 2023, 10:11:16 am
I was not able to see a clear enough difference (especially that text) in the resolution the site uses. Other than it was clear the dupe you made had a front image with the seal present. In the future, you should state that the entry is a franken-entry and the actual differences. You can't read minds and neither can the rest of us, so we would approach this like I had done this time. Since now it is too late to do anything about this issue, I recommend you put the FR front art on this entry https://www.vgcollect.com/item/55152 that you had originally put onto the dupe that was merged.

I can absolutely do that. But I think we both have improvements to make here. When someone (whether a DB mod or regular user) makes a proposed change to an entry and it's not clear to you whether that change has merit behind it, rather than assuming I'm wrong, asking for clarification would have served better.

"I can't find a difference in the front box art of the old entry and the entry you submitted. How do you know the new front art you submitted is from the French release"?

Instead my request was not only denied but the item was changed further and then presented as if there was no more discussion to be had about the matter.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on June 06, 2023, 09:39:16 pm
blank entry

https://vgcollect.com/item/244750
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on June 08, 2023, 11:36:41 pm
blank

https://vgcollect.com/item/244978

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Cartagia on June 09, 2023, 02:21:09 pm
I was not able to see a clear enough difference (especially that text) in the resolution the site uses. Other than it was clear the dupe you made had a front image with the seal present. In the future, you should state that the entry is a franken-entry and the actual differences. You can't read minds and neither can the rest of us, so we would approach this like I had done this time. Since now it is too late to do anything about this issue, I recommend you put the FR front art on this entry https://www.vgcollect.com/item/55152 that you had originally put onto the dupe that was merged.

I can absolutely do that. But I think we both have improvements to make here. When someone (whether a DB mod or regular user) makes a proposed change to an entry and it's not clear to you whether that change has merit behind it, rather than assuming I'm wrong, asking for clarification would have served better.

"I can't find a difference in the front box art of the old entry and the entry you submitted. How do you know the new front art you submitted is from the French release"?

Instead my request was not only denied but the item was changed further and then presented as if there was no more discussion to be had about the matter.

I'm pretty sure this has been suggested before, but I think a "Submission Comments" section would go a long way in preventing these issues.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 09, 2023, 02:33:13 pm
I can absolutely do that. But I think we both have improvements to make here. When someone (whether a DB mod or regular user) makes a proposed change to an entry and it's not clear to you whether that change has merit behind it, rather than assuming I'm wrong, asking for clarification would have served better.

I'm pretty sure this has been suggested before, but I think a "Submission Comments" section would go a long way in preventing these issues.

Perhaps a feature like that may help, but it wouldn't have made a difference in this specific circumstance since this issue relates to a new entry submission and not an edit submission.

Regardless, if an entry in error is being reported in this topic, then no action relating to it should be taken until that error has been responded to by staff. Doing otherwise generally causes more issues, like what happened in this instance.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on June 09, 2023, 05:17:51 pm
Destroy All Humans!
https://vgcollect.com/item/39265

Xbox Barcode, might need to be merged with https://vgcollect.com/item/146148

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 13, 2023, 08:12:46 am
My edit to the barcode of this game was rejected https://vgcollect.com/item/233506. "INS01SRG22ALT-SW-U" is present under the barcode but is also present as an item number as well.

I used this game as reference which has "PIK01SRG20-SW-CE" under the barcode field https://vgcollect.com/item/202954 but in fact it has "PIK01SRG20" under the barcode and item number. What's the policy regarding these in the barcode space?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 13, 2023, 09:03:39 am
My edit to the barcode of this game was rejected https://vgcollect.com/item/233506. "INS01SRG22ALT-SW-U" is present under the barcode but is also present as an item number as well.

I used this game as reference which has "PIK01SRG20-SW-CE" under the barcode field https://vgcollect.com/item/202954 but in fact it has "PIK01SRG20" under the barcode and item number. What's the policy regarding these in the barcode space?

Before all else, you should not be submitting entry information based on information which other entries have. Many entries are incorrect, so it is bad practice.

As far as barcode guidelines, only numerical digits may be submitted to the Barcode field based on the Barcode post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178422.html#msg178422) of the style guide. For over a year, the Barcode field prohibited anyone from entering alpha characters, but this has only recently been undone due to bugs the limitation was creating regarding leading 0s in some barcode sequences.

If INS01SRG22ALT-SW-U is the only item number, it may be submitted to the Item Number field. However, most Nintendo Switch items feature a Nintendo product code such as HAC P XXXXX which should be the priority instead. Secondary numbers may be supplied to the Description field. I can find no photos of the item in question online, so I can't yet verify any information regarding it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 13, 2023, 10:05:22 am
I can't find any pictures of this item.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 13, 2023, 10:31:00 am
It just started shipping and I got my copy yesterday. I was going to submit an image from my personal copy but it didn't come out well so I need to retake it.

EDIT: I just uploaded a scan of the back for you and submitted the edit https://imgur.com/izqlyW6
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 13, 2023, 10:40:40 am
Would be interesting to know what the barcode actually scans to.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 13, 2023, 10:48:50 am
I scanned it with a barcode scanner on my phone and it does indeed read as INS01SRG22ALT-SW-U so it would appear to me that's what the barcode is. Others are welcome to try using the image I provided.

EDIT: It appears to be the SKU used by this company for this item. So I don't know if we make a revision in the style guide for these "types" of barcodes or if we just leave the field blank.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 13, 2023, 11:06:11 am
I have added a note regarding text in the Invalid Barcodes section on the Adv Guide. Hint: yes leave the barcode field blank.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: telly on June 13, 2023, 11:06:48 am
Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on June 13, 2023, 04:00:46 pm
sorry created by mistake:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/245364

but was confused because also typos exists:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/108995
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/147278

should be:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/87564

can this be merged?

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on June 15, 2023, 12:01:17 am
internet hiccup in the middle so ended up with two blanks

https://vgcollect.com/item/245582
https://vgcollect.com/item/245581


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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: goldenjustice on June 15, 2023, 01:05:25 am
My edit to the box art for Tristia Legacy and Restore Bundle Pack was rejected

https://vgcollect.com/item/244866

The reason for the rection was that was the North American box art when it's a CN region release.  But their is no physical North American version.  It's an import only game and the Box art was taken straight off Play Asia. 

(https://i.ibb.co/2PMj961/ezgif-4-2d5345815d.jpg)

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 15, 2023, 08:09:13 am
My edit to the box art for Tristia Legacy and Restore Bundle Pack was rejected

https://vgcollect.com/item/244866

The reason for the rection was that was the North American box art when it's a CN region release.  But their is no physical North American version.  It's an import only game and the Box art was taken straight off Play Asia. 

What kind of stock art is used as a placeholder image for digital storefronts is irrelevant to what our site should use for actual image art after an item releases. So, supplying incorrect art will be rejected. Based on the item's current categorization, the item you own should look like this (https://www.ebay.it/itm/285329130844). The barcode information is the same as what's mentioned on the PlayAsia store page (https://www.play-asia.com/tristia-legacy-restore-bundle-pack-multi-language/13/70g4yb).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 15, 2023, 09:28:14 am
While the Adv Guide says that stock art is allowed on an entry, it does not supercede the Official Style Guide where it states to (basically) not use art with a rating system of a different country. The only place where that stock art would be allowed would be if there was a release in a country that uses ESRB.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on June 17, 2023, 07:16:06 pm
blank

https://vgcollect.com/item/245918

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on June 18, 2023, 04:49:11 pm
Just before I make a load of edits, with James bond games we occasionally don't seem to match Gamefaqs names or separate them between "James bond:" and "007:". I'm pretty sure Gamefaqs has at times changed the names of these games. Is there any standard we can use to just set a name for these games? For example https://vgcollect.com/item/33604 has been changed 4 times since its been made. (Personally I have a Preference to "007:" as at least its on the cover art of the games.)

Gamefaqs names (PS2):
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
007: Quantum of Solace
From Russia With Love
007: NightFire
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 19, 2023, 09:27:39 am
Request Common Name Exception here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Agozer on June 19, 2023, 11:42:06 am
-nvm-
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 19, 2023, 12:05:37 pm
-nvm-

I rejected a barcode edit with "not allowed" because a corrected edit for that same field was also in the queue. Sorry I didn't type that into the reject message. I figured you'd see the edit that was done.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on June 22, 2023, 10:57:08 am
Quote
Your edit to Olympic Soccer [DE] was rejected.
Thursday June 22nd, 2023 at 10:45 AM
Field:    rating
New Value:    42
Reason:    Incorrect Information. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: set rating to none, this is not USK 0

no it has a USK 0 label. The old one - which translate to "no age restriction". Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 22, 2023, 11:06:15 am
I meant to leave it as NA.
See here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201322.html#msg201322

Quote
Your edit to Olympic Soccer [DE] was rejected.
Thursday June 22nd, 2023 at 10:45 AM
Field:    rating
New Value:    42
Reason:    Incorrect Information. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: set rating to none, this is not USK 0

no it has a USK 0 label. The old one - which translate to "no age restriction". Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on June 22, 2023, 09:01:18 pm
Please change these games to Official Release, if possible. This includes all the games in PSN PS4 [NA], PSN PS5 [NA], and Nintendo eShop (Switch) [NA] categories that are labelled "Official Release (Upcoming)" or "Unreleased (but official)" that have since been released. 
https://vgcollect.com/item/232124 
https://vgcollect.com/item/232125 
https://vgcollect.com/item/182880 
https://vgcollect.com/item/198018 
https://vgcollect.com/item/203699 
https://vgcollect.com/item/164975 
https://vgcollect.com/item/186967 
https://vgcollect.com/item/216066 
https://vgcollect.com/item/199847 
https://vgcollect.com/item/213860 
https://vgcollect.com/item/227701 
https://vgcollect.com/item/227673 
https://vgcollect.com/item/197082 
https://vgcollect.com/item/197081 
https://vgcollect.com/item/236521 
https://vgcollect.com/item/227181 
https://vgcollect.com/item/213714 
https://vgcollect.com/item/186047 
https://vgcollect.com/item/227686 
https://vgcollect.com/item/212546 
https://vgcollect.com/item/212553 
https://vgcollect.com/item/198020 
https://vgcollect.com/item/226450 
https://vgcollect.com/item/149960 
https://vgcollect.com/item/212555 
https://vgcollect.com/item/213790 
https://vgcollect.com/item/214431 
https://vgcollect.com/item/236230 
https://vgcollect.com/item/227130 
https://vgcollect.com/item/213720 
https://vgcollect.com/item/122393 
https://vgcollect.com/item/121154 
https://vgcollect.com/item/121158 
https://vgcollect.com/item/121138 
https://vgcollect.com/item/166270 
https://vgcollect.com/item/165735 
https://vgcollect.com/item/232129 
 
This game was cancelled - https://vgcollect.com/item/219131 
 
These listings aren't games/have nothing to do with gaming, and should probably be removed... 
https://vgcollect.com/item/214200 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192379 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192388 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192384 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192396 
https://vgcollect.com/item/184959 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192378 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192395 
https://vgcollect.com/item/214206 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192381 
https://vgcollect.com/item/184960 
https://vgcollect.com/item/192336 
+ all similar apps in "Also on Platforms" fields 
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 23, 2023, 08:43:38 am
Please change these games to Official Release, if possible.

To clarify the problem, while the decision to remove Official Release (Upcoming) has been made from entry pages, the Release Type information still shows when viewed from any other page such as Browse or Collection. The issue wasn't handled fully.

Quote
These listings aren't games/have nothing to do with gaming, and should probably be removed...

These are all acceptable entries. From the Platform post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178154.html#msg178154) of the style guide:

Quote
Non-game apps are currently allowed to have entries, such as YouTube (https://vgcollect.com/item/153736).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on June 23, 2023, 09:06:08 am
Why should it be NA? Can you please elaborate more detail why it should be NA. Please have a look at the provided link - the second table has a nice overview of all variants over time. The Games has clearly the pre 2003 USK 0 label on the back cover. Your posted link links to a page which basically says the same. I don't get it.

I meant to leave it as NA.
See here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201322.html#msg201322

Quote
Your edit to Olympic Soccer [DE] was rejected.
Thursday June 22nd, 2023 at 10:45 AM
Field:    rating
New Value:    42
Reason:    Incorrect Information. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: set rating to none, this is not USK 0

no it has a USK 0 label. The old one - which translate to "no age restriction". Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 23, 2023, 09:34:23 am
Rating on an entry should be the exact rating an item features, not an equivalent. We do not have the exact rating as an option, so you should choose NA.

Why should it be NA? Can you please elaborate more detail why it should be NA. Please have a look at the provided link - the second table has a nice overview of all variants over time. The Games has clearly the pre 2003 USK 0 label on the back cover. Your posted link links to a page which basically says the same. I don't get it.

I meant to leave it as NA.
See here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201322.html#msg201322

Quote
Your edit to Olympic Soccer [DE] was rejected.
Thursday June 22nd, 2023 at 10:45 AM
Field:    rating
New Value:    42
Reason:    Incorrect Information. Please see the VGCollect Style Guide or visit the Forums to clear up any listing questions.
Admin comments: set rating to none, this is not USK 0

no it has a USK 0 label. The old one - which translate to "no age restriction". Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterhaltungssoftware_Selbstkontrolle
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: psxlegacy on June 23, 2023, 04:41:19 pm
these pics showed normal on my computer but got turned sideways after submission. Please fix...

https://vgcollect.com/item/246794

https://vgcollect.com/item/246792
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on June 23, 2023, 04:58:05 pm
these pics showed normal on my computer but got turned sideways after submission. Please fix...

https://vgcollect.com/item/246794

https://vgcollect.com/item/246792

There is no way for us to reorient images as they should, so new images must be submitted correctly. That said, I updated entry art for 246792. From the Item Images post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177804.html#msg177804) of the style guide:

Quote
The site does not use the EXIF Orientation tag, so images should be aligned properly or have this tag disabled. Failure to do so will result in sideways or upside down images. Images like this submitted on edits will be rejects, Images found on created entries will be removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on June 24, 2023, 01:42:57 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/246803
I accidentally submitted a date change for the wrong version of Brotato last night. Tried to cancel it but I was too slow. The correct date for the iOS launch is June 8, 2023, this data is viewable in the App Store page's source code and on the publisher's Twitter (https://twitter.com/erabit_studios/status/1666786044912496640). 
 
The Android version was released on May 21/22, 2023, depending on the timezone.   
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 26, 2023, 09:56:48 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/246803
I accidentally submitted a date change for the wrong version of Brotato last night. Tried to cancel it but I was too slow. The correct date for the iOS launch is June 8, 2023, this data is viewable in the App Store page's source code and on the publisher's Twitter (https://twitter.com/erabit_studios/status/1666786044912496640). 
 
The Android version was released on May 21/22, 2023, depending on the timezone.   

It has been updated
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: pfogel on June 27, 2023, 08:58:06 am
Release date for Air Raid 3 (https://vgcollect.com/item/136934) was rejected because GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/940043-air-raid-3/data) has a different date listed.

There are multiple releases of Air Raid 3, some with a different name (https://www.mobygames.com/game/104025/air-raid-3/releases/)
While there is a German version of it which released in 2006 (like GameFAQs listing) it released as Combat Ace with the EAN 8717774870891. The Item above with EAN    8717774870075 released in 2007 according to Mobygames.
I found a European release (https://www.gamepressure.com/games/air-raid-3/zc25e0#ps2) released on 23.02.2007.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 27, 2023, 09:14:14 am
It shouldn't have been rejected because of GameFAQs as they do not have a German release on their page.

Of the two German entries on the site, they are
"small USK rating" https://vgcollect.com/item/136934 (which is the one you linked)
and
"large USK rating" https://vgcollect.com/item/220100

The small has a release year of 2007 while the large is 2006. However, I am removing the release year on the Large one simply because the rating shown on the cover started in 2009.

The Gamepressure link is not for a German version.

136934 has a date of 2007 on the entry and matches the Mobygames info, so that doesn't need to be changed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on June 28, 2023, 10:21:41 am
Was instructed to post this here. I would like these listings converted to the Epic category please. 
https://vgcollect.com/item/178278 
https://vgcollect.com/item/191325
 
I can't find any official Windows releases for these other than Steam and Epic. 

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on June 28, 2023, 10:30:02 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/226564 
I would like this game switched to Epic please. In the edit notification, the message says "There needs to be formal clarification as to how generic PC Digital Download entries should be re-categorized. In this instance, why Epic Games and not Steam?" 
 
For this particular game, my thinking is, since it has no owners and it's in the cluttered PC - Digital category, it's free real estate to switch over. Normally if a game has owner(s) it's worth looking into their collection and seeing where they likely have the game/messaging the owner to ask. There was a Steam listing made for this game 9 months before the PC - Digital listing came around, so I'm fairly sure it wouldn't have stood for that release. Unfortunately it seems there's more than just Epic and Steam digital releases for this game, looks like it's being sold on the Microsoft Store and the official Farming Sim website too, so really it could be meant to represent any of those. 

For a few other PC - Digital games, I've changed the descriptions on them to state the other locations you can download them from (if there are any), and then making a separate Epic listing afterwards. Is this an acceptable process? The only reason I've tried to circumvent this with Farming Sim is just because it has no owners. 
 
What do you think?     
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 29, 2023, 09:20:00 am
Moved to Epic

There needs to be formal clarification as to how generic PC Digital Download entries should be re-categorized. In this instance, why Epic Games and not Steam?" 

0 in Collections means that approving staff can basically do anything (appropriate) with it. As for why Epic and not Steam, there is already an entry in Steam category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on June 29, 2023, 11:24:13 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/232130 (https://vgcollect.com/item/232130) 
https://vgcollect.com/item/229269

 More games that needs to be changed to Official Release
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on June 30, 2023, 09:18:29 am
This is a bug, not something that is handled in this thread.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on July 04, 2023, 11:20:30 pm
I was informed about the Steam bundle rules in this thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,5876.0.html) that says not to add bundles that don't include exclusive content. Please delete these listings, which have their add-ons purchasable either individually or through season passes. 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248241 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248173 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248242 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248175 
https://vgcollect.com/item/242249
https://vgcollect.com/item/248047 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248176 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248179 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248180 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248186 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248199 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248200 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248490 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248491 
https://vgcollect.com/item/247911 
https://vgcollect.com/item/247910 
https://vgcollect.com/item/248346

Thanks. 

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on July 05, 2023, 11:07:45 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/170771

the PAL release don't have the "NEW"-Badge on the front. Also the "Printed in"-Line on the back differs. Afaik this is the NTSC image taken from this entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/17529
I can provide provide pictures of the PAL release. The Cartridge image is ok even if likely also copied from the NTSC release. PAL has a "P" sticker on the back. The front is afaik identical.

Sorry i also added a edit for the NTSC game which should be done to the PAL version. I got confused by the identical images... Sorry :(
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 05, 2023, 11:38:30 am
Item merged as dupe. You can make a new entry.

There is a lot of bad entries made in cats for games of this era. People make EU games in NA and NA in EU. So this entry was a US game made in EU section and there was another one already in US section. Because we can't convert entries, it can only be merged. In the future do not attempt an entry conversion, instead report the issue in this thread first.

Also for Atari cart sections, it is often difficult to know exactly how games were released. There are many years of games being imported and exported to/from EU so it is now common to find US games on EU ebay. A site like Atarimania is the way to go to know where these things come from.

https://vgcollect.com/item/170771

the PAL release don't have the "NEW"-Badge on the front. Also the "Printed in"-Line on the back differs. Afaik this is the NTSC image taken from this entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/17529
I can provide provide pictures of the PAL release. The Cartridge image is ok even if likely also copied from the NTSC release. PAL has a "P" sticker on the back. The front is afaik identical.

Sorry i also added a edit for the NTSC game which should be done to the PAL version. I got confused by the identical images... Sorry :(
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on July 05, 2023, 01:00:44 pm
thank added new entry. Even through mixing up PAL and NTSC for 7800 shouldn't be that easy. Most NTSC 7800 games don't work on PAL systems.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on July 05, 2023, 03:33:54 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/248836

Quote
Admin comments: What is the source of this information? All information I can find regarding a release date is 1978 without day or month. If you can confirm a release date, an edit submission will be approved.

It is complicated. Unimex (Brand of Unicom Consumer Electronics GmbH) imported PAL Atari games directly from Atari Inc (US). Added a german manual, gave them geman alternative names and distributed them. They started importing in 1980. Thus it is very likely all boxed version of the earlier games exists. This one has a (C) 1981 on the back and geman manual lists all games sold in June 1981. Thus this combination of box and manual and game was sold from June 1981. In March 1980 Atari founded a german subsidary. But afaik they took over distribution of games some time in 1981 but sold stock of Unimex. All Unimex distributed games can't be relased before 1980 and not after 1981. There are conflicting information if they sold games in the EU or only germany.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 06, 2023, 09:21:42 am
In regards to this text in description:
"manual (german) with title "Hindernis-Rennen (Slot Racers) Video Computer System Model CX 2600 - VCS 800 Spiel-Anleitung""

It does not have a manual. It has a Spiel-Anleitung.

If language is needed to be mentioned, it should be in proper case.

Hindernis-Rennen should be in alt-name field.

Need to note what color the P label is. It is especially important since this part is not visible in the art slots.

This line "imported and distributed by Unimex." should be on the bottom of the text, not the top. Physical descriptions first, then contents, then trivia and compatibility info.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: RogerWilco on July 07, 2023, 07:40:08 pm
I don't understand some of the rejections and changes made by mods to user submissions and edits. I did try to go over the style guide, but I want to point out that on the submission page, as well as under the mod notes on rejected edits, users are linked to the style guide from 2011. (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html) I think you should update it to the advanced one from 2020 (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.0.html), or better yet link both.

However, neither one of these really have good guidelines or examples for merchandise or swag items. This is what I want to bring up.

I don't understand what the purpose of the "description" field is when everything always gets erased. I've referenced both the regular guide and the advanced style guide.
Here is what is listed in the original, official style guide for description boxes:

(For Games) Descriptions:
    The Description field should be notes about the games packaging variants/ pack ins/ collector's edition details. Or trivia about the games release, such as if it is a launch title, last title, a very limited release,  etc. This should not be filled with store descriptions describing the gameplay or hyping up the title. Plagiarizing descriptions from other sources will not be tolerated and will be deleted.

(For Digital Downloads) Descriptions:
        In most cases, Digital games would not need our description field to be filled in. Except in cases where it is only available from a certain location. Such as the freeware version of Daggerfall, which is from the official Elder Scrolls website. Or the indie game Hydorah, which is only available through its developer's website, locomolito.com. In these cases, you can simple say something along the lines of "The game is freeware and available for download from locomalito's website." Do not copy and paste URLs into description.

(For Steam Games) Description:
        This box is used to describe specific things about the game - if it's been removed from the store, locked to a specific region, only available in a certain language, and so on. If you're adding a Collector's Edition of a game, and it includes specific bonuses, you enter the list of bonuses there. If the game you're adding is only available in a specific set or as a free game when buying something else, you may mention it here.

And per the advanced style guide:
The description field is to list a physical description of an item, such as: what is contained in the packaging, additional item numbers, clarification of variation, item name descriptor details or release country if a TLD is not required in the item title.
For a digital game, it is for compatibilities or release information only. The data input should be concise and not wordy.
"Description" from other websites such as stores or online platforms are not valid for use here.


I'll list examples I did and why I don't understand things were removed.
Ex. 1: Smile Slime Plush Cap. (https://vgcollect.com/item/249021) In the description, I listed the material it was made out of: Polyester and Nylon, and that it had velcro on the chin strap. Why was this removed? It is a very short physical description of the item.
Ex. 2: iRO Deviruchi t-shirt. (https://vgcollect.com/item/249033) In the description, I wrote that this was a promotional item only for International Ragnarok Online server players subscribed during a certain period. There is additional detail about the back of the shirt that can't be seen in the photo. The whole thing was removed. I think it is a bit nit-picky to remove the info about the back of the shirt for the sake of brevity, but why remove the part about it being promotional specific to one region? Doesn't that count as clarification of variation or details about release? The title does have iRO which is an acronym for "International Ragnarok Online" but that's not written anywhere else on the page, and neither is "Ragnarok Online". Anyone using those two terms for searches wouldn't find this promotional item.
Ex. 3:  Fire Emblem Memorial Book Vol. 1 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140311). In the description, I wrote that it is a compilation of lore, sketches and character sheets by the devs. It was rejected for the reason "No relevant information" and then replaced by the second barcode number on the book. Also, I actually added a picture of the back of the book for this entry. That was removed with the reason given "Missing text". I don't understand, it's a photograph. How can I add text to a photograph? How can text be missing? Furthermore, why would you need to replace the description with additional barcode numbers, when it was in the photograph that you removed? This does not seem very logical to me that you would have a photo of something, remove it, then add in a text box what you removed. Honest question, and I hope I'm not coming across as a jerk but are you trying to just keep all entries to one picture per entry? Description box aside, I really don't understand the reasoning behind removing the photo of the back of the book other than "you don't want it". And that's fine if that's the case, but you should clarify that somewhere in your guides. I would ask that you be consistent in how you edit things too because I submitted the second volume (https://vgcollect.com/item/249040) of this book as well, but the editing was done different. The photo of the back of the book stayed and the description is completely blank. Not sure which example is supposed to be the correct one.
Ex. 4:  Figma figure of female Kamui from Fire Emblem: Fates. (https://vgcollect.com/item/117149) I added in the description that there was a bonus item unique to the GOOD SMILE website and that was removed. I don't understand why that was removed because "it wasn't relevant." If you ordered this figure from a different retailer, you would have different accessories. The packaging and Kamui herself is the same though. This information seems like it would be relevant since it talks about what is contained in the packaging.



There are also some liberties taken by mods doing the edits that I don't think follow your own guidelines.

Ex. 1 The title was edited in this submission. (https://vgcollect.com/item/249034) I originally had the color labeled with it because there are two variants. I have the pink one shown. There is a navy (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ragnarok_gamepedia_en/images/7/76/RagnarokOnlineBaseballCap.png/revision/latest?cb=20161103211328) version as well. I didn't bother to list the navy one since I don't have it, and the only photo I could find the cap looks more black than navy.
Ex. 2 The Pokemon KFC promotional items were relabeled from "bean bag" to "plush". (https://vgcollect.com/item/249036) The tush tag on the items in question have them labeled as "bean bag" and they were promoted by that description in KFC's own commercial. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akb6WXKslzo)
Ex. 3 To double back on the picture removal topic, you completely removed two additional photos from this listing, making it difficult to understand what it is (https://vgcollect.com/item/249041). For this listing I had a photo of the front of the box (still there), the back of the box (which has the name of the item, a description of it, and how to clean/maintain it in japanese) and a photo of the drinking glass by itself so people could see what it looks like. As it is now, there is no way anyone could figure out what this listing is supposed to be unless you already have the item yourself. I think keeping the listing like this, you are more likely to end up with users making multiple entries for the same item, especially if they just posted a listing without the box and only the loose item.

I have some other entries that I'm not so sure on, but this post is already quite involved so I'll wait for clarification on my examples first. I'm hoping someone can further explain certain things since it seems like I'm following the guidelines but there is an obvious misunderstanding. I have several other merchandise type items and some older IBM games on 3.5in floppy disks I want to add but tbh, I am reluctant to since I have no idea what is going on with the edits.

Oh and there is a mistake here for the Fire Emblem Three Houses Pin set. (https://vgcollect.com/item/248473) You added the colon but misspelled 'three'.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 07, 2023, 09:02:54 pm
I don't understand some of the rejections and changes made by mods to user submissions and edits.

Like you've mentioned, our site does not have any written rules or guidelines to follow concerning items in Merchandise sub-cats. It is something some may say is badly needed, but there are very few here who care enough about the categories which is why they're all in disarray. The categories bother me, but without much formal guidance to reference, it is of low priority for me, currently. Originally, VGC was built to track games. Quickly, that turned into tracking game items, followed by digital games and anything else. The site isn't properly set up to track these sorts of items, yet we still do. With all that said, the Description field guidelines you've quoted above are for games.

I handled all the edit changes, if it wasn't apparent. Generally for entries that have a mass of Description text too wordy or not immediately relevant to the item, I remove it. Perhaps in some instances like for parts of Ex. 1 and Ex. 2, information was removed in error, but I can't be certain now without referencing that original text again if it's re-submitted.

Comments on what you're mentioning now:
Ex 2. Whether "iRO" is a part of the title or not, no one searching for Ragnarök Online will find the item anyway because that term is not a part of the Name or Alt-name fields.
Ex 3. Like you mentioned, the Description field's focus is on physical attributes. So, any additional item number or barcode information may be submitted. That the information is also present on any entry image makes no difference (especially considering the small size of entry images.) If that were the case, then fields like Barcode and Box Text wouldn't exist at all. Concerning the "missing text" comment, that is because the image you submitted is not the same image I found while researching this item. Here is an image of the item's actual back design (https://i.imgur.com/I2L5SBi.jpg). The image you submitted omitted all back cover text in addition to the obi. So, contrary to what you mentioned here, barcode information wasn't present in the image at all. The style guide states not to submit images where the barcode has been removed or censored. Every online listing I've seen of this item features the barcode. Without seeing your photo again, I don't know what item you own.
Ex 4. I don't know how your submission text was worded. If there is an additional item separate from the entry's packaging, then it should be submitted as its own entry and description details. That entry could then state it was a pre-order bonus from a certain retailer related to a certain product.

Ex. 1. Do not use entry name descriptors unless there is more than one entry in the same category with the same name. Do not format descriptors in uppercase lettering as you originally did unless the text is present on the item. So, if a variant entry is submitted, (pink) and (navy) can be supplied as entry name descriptors.
Ex. 2. While researching, I did not find any text mentioning "Bean Bag," so I defaulted to lowercase "plush" as many other entries use. Whatever marketing terms an item was given is not important to how an entry should be named. Those terms can be added to the Alt-name field. If you re-submit the change, it will be approved.
Ex. 3. You submitted three images all in the incorrect slot (media art in front slot, front art in back slot, back art in media slot.) Because they were all low quality, I did not bother re-submitting them, although I submitted different front art in the correct slot. You mention concern of duplicate entries. You titled the item incorrectly, which is much more of a reason for a duplicate entry to be made.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on July 08, 2023, 07:17:38 pm
Notification for rejecting back image and cart image for Webkinz plushes: 

Quote
Items without packaging may be submitted loose in the Front Art slot exclusively. No other slot should be used. Relevant recent forum post: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12402.msg201816.html#msg201816 (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12402.msg201816.html#msg201816)
For Webkinz, there are indeed some plushes that were "packaged" with some kind of cardboard graphic. I think this happened later in the game's lifespan. I disagree with there being no packaging on the majority of them, though. I see the secret code card in the plastic sleeve with the blue ribbon and fastener as being the "packaging". The Webkinz plush with the secret code card still attached is what I and many others would consider CIB for these specific toys and is how they were sold on the shelves, so I don't exactly see why including an image of the back of the code card, where the majority of the item's info (barcode, item numbers, company info, etc) is located, would be denied for cart art. 

The "back art" rejection I can understand, and I won't submit those anymore. It was mostly just submitting something for the sake of it and having access to the images, I suppose. 

I also personally disagree with not allowing developer and publisher info for these specific items. It just makes sense, the secret code is definitely developed by GANZ for the game, while the plush itself is published and manufactured by GANZ. But I can settle for leaving them blank for consistency's sake. 
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 08, 2023, 08:59:30 pm
Notification for rejecting back image and cart image for Webkinz plushes: 

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Items without packaging may be submitted loose in the Front Art slot exclusively. No other slot should be used. Relevant recent forum post: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12402.msg201816.html#msg201816 (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12402.msg201816.html#msg201816)

For reference, these are the type of images being submitted:

(https://vgcollect.com/images/back-box-art/249216.jpg) (https://vgcollect.com/images/cart-art/249216.jpg)

I am not disagreeing that there are Webkinz toys with box packaging. They may certainly exist, but the ones in question such as the one above objectively do not have packaging.

Yes, crucial information is found on the label, but the Cart Art slot is not reserved for those kinds of images. Other items have crucial information on various sides or components (i.e. Webkinz tags, spine, box bottom), but the art slots are for front, back, and media only, so those images are not submitted either.

Technically, these items belong under the Interactive Figures and Cards category, but no sub-cat currently exists for them. Regardless, publisher and developer information should not be submitted to either Toys or Interactive Figures/Cards. These items aren't published either, they're manufactured.


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Because the original design of the database was primarily for games, non-game items do not use the Developer and Publisher fields the same way. Here is a quick list of non-game items and which fields are appropriate:
- Toys, interactive figures, cards, artwork, clothing, food swag items: both should be blank
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on July 09, 2023, 12:23:19 am
I am not disagreeing that there are Webkinz toys with box packaging. They may certainly exist, but the ones in question such as the one above objectively do not have packaging.

Yes, crucial information is found on the label, but the Cart Art slot is not reserved for those kinds of images. Other items have crucial information on various sides or components (i.e. Webkinz tags, spine, box bottom), but the art slots are for front, back, and media only, so those images are not submitted either.

I understand there is an issue with submitting non-media to the cart art field, and that it causes problems later down the road for the database. Would it then be in any way possible to submit the back of the code cards to the back art field for these specific instances?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: BinaryMessiah on July 09, 2023, 05:06:24 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/63876 (https://vgcollect.com/item/63876)

There seems to be a misunderstanding for a Box Text for a strategy guide. I was told in the rejection comments "do not denote where the text is located." However, this specific text is actually printed on the guide. It's also on a different variant.

The misunderstanding might be where it starts with "[it's back]" That's actually on the back of the guide in brackets as well right at the top. It's not me notating where the text is located. This is where I copied the text from as it's the exact same except for a single bullet point that's different.

https://vgcollect.com/item/38352
 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38352)
Maybe I did type something in wrong, but I'm pretty sure that was it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 09, 2023, 06:06:55 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/63876 (https://vgcollect.com/item/63876)

There seems to be a misunderstanding for a Box Text for a strategy guide. I was told in the rejection comments "do not denote where the text is located." However, this specific text is actually printed on the guide. It's also on a different variant.

The misunderstanding might be where it starts with "[it's back]" That's actually on the back of the guide in brackets as well right at the top. It's not me notating where the text is located.

That was my mistake. I assumed the submitted text included notations based on reading the brackets and "back" text. If the text is re-submitted, it will be approved.

On that note, only copy-paste information after confirming it is correct. Otherwise, it is not good practice.

Also, when submitting Box Text information, ensure there is a space between paragraph signifiers such as hyphens or bullet points and actual text. So, formatting should be like:


Code: [Select]
- Print guide fully covers the original Fallout 4 content.
and not
Code: [Select]
-Print guide fully covers the original Fallout 4 content.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 10, 2023, 09:48:33 am
I am not disagreeing that there are Webkinz toys with box packaging. They may certainly exist, but the ones in question such as the one above objectively do not have packaging.

Yes, crucial information is found on the label, but the Cart Art slot is not reserved for those kinds of images. Other items have crucial information on various sides or components (i.e. Webkinz tags, spine, box bottom), but the art slots are for front, back, and media only, so those images are not submitted either.

I understand there is an issue with submitting non-media to the cart art field, and that it causes problems later down the road for the database. Would it then be in any way possible to submit the back of the code cards to the back art field for these specific instances?

Can't allow for a specific exception for an item in a general category.

Also make sure when you post about a specific item, you link to the item.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on July 10, 2023, 01:39:14 pm
Can't allow for a specific exception for an item in a general category.

Also make sure when you post about a specific item, you link to the item.
Thanks, will keep that in mind.
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Here's another bundle-type listing for Epic. I can't take a look at the thread I linked earlier... it says it's off limits to me now, so I can't double check if this fits the description for being removed but I'm pretty sure it does. 

3 out of 10: Season One https://vgcollect.com/item/247886
You can download/purchase all 5 of the chapters individually. 
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 11, 2023, 09:23:48 am
On Epic, on the website, the way to verify an entry that appears in the launcher:
- the item in Search results has the tag "Base Game" below the art and above the title.
- using the search filtering, check the Game box under Type

As they use bother Game and Base Game to refer to the same thing... which is a design error IMO.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on July 22, 2023, 05:24:06 pm
This item I believe was a disc swap as the cover does not reflect the updated logo as with other entries. Requesting its removal -  https://vgcollect.com/item/250964

For a few entries I may be able to remove the disc descriptor and use a publisher instead. Currently I have only managed to locate two Discs ending in # (PT / Uk) . This is despite multiple item numbers being used (Eg. 50960 for french, german and austrian), (50966 Uk, PT)

SCES - Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
# - Disney Interactive
#2 - Disney Interactive
#3 - Disney Interactive Studios
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 22, 2023, 07:19:55 pm
This item I believe was a disc swap as the cover does not reflect the updated logo as with other entries. Requesting its removal -  https://vgcollect.com/item/250964

If you can confirm that this item exists with at least a disc, there isn't any reason for the entry to be removed. If you do that, then appropriate changes can be made to the entry until it's determined what kind of packaging it had.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on July 22, 2023, 08:27:36 pm
This item I believe was a disc swap as the cover does not reflect the updated logo as with other entries. Requesting its removal -  https://vgcollect.com/item/250964

If you can confirm that this item exists with at least a disc, there isn't any reason for the entry to be removed. If you do that, then appropriate changes can be made to the entry until it's determined what kind of packaging it had.

(Both French and German language disc names are default "Disney's Stitch: Experiment 626")

Original Listing - https://www.ebay.fr/itm/334434351278
Likely disc from - https://www.ebay.at/itm/264646029125
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Agozer on July 25, 2023, 11:51:40 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/235729 and the same entries in other castegories.

I was just wondering if the title should be "Final Fantasy I-VI Collection" and the alt title "Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 25, 2023, 11:57:15 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/235729 and the same entries in other castegories.

I was just wondering if the title should be "Final Fantasy I-VI Collection" and the alt title "Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster".

Gamefaqs currently has this series as Pixel Remaster, so it is good the way it is, but you can put "Final Fantasy I-VI Collection" into alt-name if you want. It looks like it is considering the FF logo at the top as the game release and the large Final Fantasy with the numerals as the subtitle.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: Agozer on July 25, 2023, 12:01:46 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/235729 and the same entries in other castegories.

I was just wondering if the title should be "Final Fantasy I-VI Collection" and the alt title "Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster".

Gamefaqs currently has this series as Pixel Remaster, so it is good the way it is, but you can put "Final Fantasy I-VI Collection" into alt-name if you want. It looks like it is considering the FF logo at the top as the game release and the large Final Fantasy with the numerals as the subtitle.

I see. I'll do just that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: fazerco on July 26, 2023, 08:29:18 am
For the mod who put this together, the front is wrong then, you should have taken it all or left it.

https://vgcollect.com/item/222555 (https://vgcollect.com/item/222555)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 26, 2023, 09:10:54 am
For the mod who put this together, the front is wrong then, you should have taken it all or left it.

https://vgcollect.com/item/222555 (https://vgcollect.com/item/222555)

Before overwriting or reporting existing image information, I would advise to always clear your browser cache so that you're viewing the most up-to-date art. If you do that, you will see that the image art is correct, which we can all verify from photos taken from this eBay listing (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235087307754). In fact, I even re-used the scans from your duplicate entry which has since been removed, evidenced by the edit history. 222555 originally featured stock art which is the art you were viewing when reporting this item, but there is nothing to report because we permit the use of stock art.

With that said, refrain from submitting duplicate entries. 222555 was submitted without any notable details, so it served as a generic entry. From my understanding, there is only one regional Europe variant for this item, so the information you provided should have instead been submitted to it. Also, do not attach TLD information such as [UK][FR]IT][ES][NL], because it is incorrect, even in instances of regional variants. Packaging text does not always equate to TLDs. In most cases, an item like this will just be the general EU release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 26, 2023, 09:34:52 am
TLD information such as [UK][FR]IT][ES][NL]

In almost all cases, a TLD set like this will be removed not because it is incorrect but because it is unnecessary. All regional sections have a default country, for NA it is the US and for EU it is the UK. So any UK game does not get TLD on the entry except for when a general English EU version is present (where country of origin is unknown) then the UK version can get the TLD.

There are rare instances where this type of TLD set is allowed but this is for older games where it is unknown exactly how they were released. Two examples of this are NBA Live 97 and FIFA 97 on Mega Drive. For modern games, it is usually easier to determine where things come from because they will primarily show up on the localised secondary market for 1-2 years before ending up getting distributed widely around EU countries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: fazerco on July 26, 2023, 01:03:00 pm
The 'orginal' entry wasnt correct, so stop stealing stuff from the internet that isnt correct. Makes live alot easier, because im not checking it. So i had to make a new entry. Just delete the stuff with only a name and a wrong picture (just delete, dont check).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 26, 2023, 05:15:27 pm
The 'orginal' entry wasnt correct, so stop stealing stuff from the internet that isnt correct. Makes live alot easier, because im not checking it. So i had to make a new entry. Just delete the stuff with only a name and a wrong picture (just delete, dont check).

Just know that if you submit a duplicate entry and it becomes known, the entries will merge together. That said, it is easier on everyone's behalf to improve existing entries instead of creating new ones if the specific item already has an entry. You certainly did not have to make a new entry.

I agree with you that stock art is contradictory to a successful entry, but our site has allowed stock imagery since rules have been formed. So, the best option available is to instead update outdated stock art images with correct ones. We will not be removing any entry based on stock art use alone. Rarely do entries get deleted at all.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on July 27, 2023, 11:30:37 am
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/62112

entry is odd. The Front cover picture is from the manual not from the front cover. I have this game with a different EAN (5029988004041). According to my search the EAN currently provided was a sticker on the outside case above printed EAN on the back cover - otherwise it is the same release but the information is sparse.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on July 27, 2023, 11:52:45 am
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/62112

entry is odd. The Front cover picture is from the manual not from the front cover. I have this game with a different EAN (5029988004041). According to my search the EAN currently provided was a sticker on the outside case above printed EAN on the back cover - otherwise it is the same release but the information is sparse.

Here it is
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185992537416

If you add the one you have, then 62112 can get a descriptor like (barcode label).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on July 27, 2023, 12:06:37 pm
ok thanks. funny the front cover still has the 4041 number
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: fazerco on July 27, 2023, 01:10:38 pm
The 'orginal' entry wasnt correct, so stop stealing stuff from the internet that isnt correct. Makes live alot easier, because im not checking it. So i had to make a new entry. Just delete the stuff with only a name and a wrong picture (just delete, dont check).

Just know that if you submit a duplicate entry and it becomes known, the entries will merge together. That said, it is easier on everyone's behalf to improve existing entries instead of creating new ones if the specific item already has an entry. You certainly did not have to make a new entry.

I agree with you that stock art is contradictory to a successful entry, but our site has allowed stock imagery since rules have been formed. So, the best option available is to instead update outdated stock art images with correct ones. We will not be removing any entry based on stock art use alone. Rarely do entries get deleted at all.


If i change the picture i get a rejection with already on file, so im not going that way.

And it might be a different version.

Im not looking all over the internet if there is a variant or not. I look at the picture, and whats on the fields. If its different i make a new entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on July 28, 2023, 08:59:10 pm
I'm pretty sure I need a descriptor for https://vgcollect.com/item/251427 but I'm not certain what to use as I cant see anything similar. Only found the one copy on Tradera. https://www.tradera.com/item/340702/583508715/athens-2004-ps2-new-

Single language variants of Danish, Norwegian, Finnish and Swedish exist.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 28, 2023, 10:06:35 pm
I'm pretty sure I need a descriptor for https://vgcollect.com/item/251427 but I'm not certain what to use as I cant see anything similar. Only found the one copy on Tradera. https://www.tradera.com/item/340702/583508715/athens-2004-ps2-new-

Single language variants of Danish, Norwegian, Finnish and Swedish exist.

In most cases with the same TLD being used for a specific item in a category, it is done in error. But, with older items, these sort of country-specific and region-specific releases have simultaneously occurred. We don't know what the circumstances are at this moment, so for now you can attach a [DK][FI][NO][SE] TLD descriptor until we can learn more about this item.

Here is another set of items as an example that I've encountered before. We don't have the needed information, so the two name formats are fine to coexist for the time being.
https://vgcollect.com/item/142427
https://vgcollect.com/item/200582
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on July 30, 2023, 04:45:56 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/251548

ended up with a blank entry.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on July 31, 2023, 07:13:38 pm
Just clarifying to not cause any confusion - Editing some barcodes in PS2 [NA] (Not converting entries) . A lot of information seems to be incorrect and a lot of the images appear to be from the wrong platform.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on July 31, 2023, 10:25:34 pm
Just clarifying to not cause any confusion - Editing some barcodes in PS2 [NA] (Not converting entries) . A lot of information seems to be incorrect and a lot of the images appear to be from the wrong platform.

I believe all your edits were approved. Like you're saying, plenty of older entries are either lacking in or feature incorrect information which still need to be re-checked. More or less, this pertains to every field.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 02, 2023, 09:40:49 am
Ive noticed what looks like a barcode error.

EU PS2 game - Marvel vs Capcom 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/41898

The barcode on this listing doesnt exist according to the barcode finders ive tried.  I now own this game and the barcode is 5055060920527 and that works on the barcode finders.

I know you dont like us to amend the barcodes on the existing listings and i would usually just create a new listing.  But there is only 1 EU release of this game so we need to ensure the 1 listing is correct.

I will enter more database details and the cover/disc scans once we can agree what to do about this barcode error.

Thanks
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 02, 2023, 10:19:53 am
Ive noticed what looks like a barcode error.

EU PS2 game - Marvel vs Capcom 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/41898

I haven't been able to find any online listings that feature both front and back artwork simultaneously. However, I did find a scan of the back cover (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=E-072-S-14424-A) in addition to a blurry photo (https://www.ethanproductions.com/videogames-newDB/images/5055060920534-back.jpg). So, the item certainly does exist.

It seems that the EAN could relate to a Finnish regional release based on the VET/SFB rating, but I believe it to instead be general Europe released based on the back Capcom product code, as other general Europe releases utilize the CJEX sequence. If that is the case, then a new entry for the UK release will need to be submitted with a [UK] TLD descriptor.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 02, 2023, 10:54:51 am
Here's a vinted listing - https://www.vinted.pt/entretenimento/videojogos-e-consolas/playstation-antiga/jogos/2942543726-marvel-vs-capcom
They probs got their scan from https://www.kaptenkrok.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ps2s1422_2-600x861.jpg
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 02, 2023, 12:55:44 pm
It seems that the EAN could relate to a Finnish regional release based on the VET/SFB rating, but I believe it to instead be general Europe released based on the back Capcom product code, as other general Europe releases utilize the CJEX sequence. If that is the case, then a new entry for the UK release will need to be submitted with a [UK] TLD descriptor.[/font]

Ive created a new UK entry - pls check its what you wanted

https://vgcollect.com/item/251710
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 02, 2023, 01:04:04 pm
It seems that the EAN could relate to a Finnish regional release based on the VET/SFB rating, but I believe it to instead be general Europe released based on the back Capcom product code, as other general Europe releases utilize the CJEX sequence. If that is the case, then a new entry for the UK release will need to be submitted with a [UK] TLD descriptor.[/font]

Ive created a new UK entry - pls check its what you wanted

https://vgcollect.com/item/251710

No problems at all with the new entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 04, 2023, 11:46:43 am
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/138013

sorry I have done two edits to this game. Publisher "Atari Corp." is correct, but additional text information could be wrong.
This game is the 1987 release (Made in China)
While i have a 1986 release. (Made in Taiwan)
Both are Atari Corp. while the https://www.vgcollect.com/item/65499 is Atari Inc.
I will add another entry for 1986 release
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 04, 2023, 01:54:10 pm
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/138013

sorry I have done two edits to this game. Publisher "Atari Corp." is correct, but additional text information could be wrong.
This game is the 1987 release (Made in China)
While i have a 1986 release. (Made in Taiwan)
Both are Atari Corp. while the https://www.vgcollect.com/item/65499 is Atari Inc.
I will add another entry for 1986 release

Publisher submission approved, Description submission rejected.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 06, 2023, 11:29:02 am
I will add another entry for 1986 release

Responding here for greater public visibility.

There are now five variants for RealSports Tennis (http://Copyright 1988, Atari Corporation, Sannyvale, CA 94086. ALl rights reserved. Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China) in Atari 2600 EU. All of the differences are visible from box packaging unlike before which the descriptor relied on cartridge label. If possible, descriptors should use outer visible information before relying on packaged components details.

RealSports Tennis (Atari, Inc) (https://vgcollect.com/item/65499)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Made in Taiwan) (https://vgcollect.com/item/251900)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Made in China) (https://vgcollect.com/item/251902)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China) (https://vgcollect.com/item/138013)
RealSports Tennis (Atari Corporation) (https://vgcollect.com/item/163598)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 06, 2023, 11:51:27 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/251900

I don't know why you have changed my entry. You messed up the text which now reflect something different what is on the box
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 06, 2023, 12:10:07 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/251900

I don't know why you have changed my entry. You messed up the text which now reflect something different what is on the box

That is my mistake. When updating the Box Text field for 251900 to remove copyright symbols, I overlooked the difference in copyright year, since I was referring to a 1987 item.

There are now six variants.
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Inc) (https://vgcollect.com/item/65499)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Made in Taiwan / 1986) (https://vgcollect.com/item/251900)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Made in Taiwan / 1987) (https://vgcollect.com/item/251903)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Made in China) (https://vgcollect.com/item/251902)
RealSports Tennis (Atari, Corp. / Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China) (https://vgcollect.com/item/138013)
RealSports Tennis (Atari Corporation) (https://vgcollect.com/item/163598)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 06, 2023, 01:21:54 pm
the difference between them are bigger. I will make an additional edit
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 06, 2023, 02:47:30 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/182786
and
https://vgcollect.com/item/80529

is the same game even through the newer one has better images imho

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 07, 2023, 10:24:17 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/62699

Gamefaqs name is Disney/Pixar Finding Nemo

Front is stock
Barcode is NL (https://www.vinted.pt/entretenimento/videojogos-e-consolas/playstation-antiga/jogos/2337792872-ps2-spel-finding-nemo-disney-pixar)
Back is English - prob uk

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on August 09, 2023, 08:56:10 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/252115

blank one

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 10, 2023, 09:20:01 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/252223
Could do with the front image clearing, submitted in wrong area & dont have a front image to replace

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 11, 2023, 10:26:47 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/119068 - Stock images in use.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 11, 2023, 11:58:47 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/119068 - Stock images in use.

It was worse than that. The back image was one of those "created" ones where (at least) the lower (white) portion where the legal text and barcode was actually lifted from a different game entirely. It had to be investigated because it was evident the cover did exist, which was why it was rejected initially.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 12, 2023, 03:41:24 pm
Just to prevent confusion for my edits
https://vgcollect.com/item/48155 is a stock image. Same release as the [IT] Version, just that IT has a SIAE.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 12, 2023, 10:56:44 pm
Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3
https://vgcollect.com/item/194016

Was going to change name to "Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3"
Barcode is NL but is a later edit. Dont want to appear to convert

NL - https://www.ebay.nl/itm/304761874287





https://vgcollect.com/item/46565
https://vgcollect.com/item/142416

Appears to be a variant rather then a regional release as both seen prevalent in the UK. Submitting a (Quickstart) descriptor

ebay.co.uk/itm/404435045701
ebay.co.uk/itm/115861814035

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: bobi on August 13, 2023, 01:50:42 pm
Not sure if the right topic for that but I’m pretty sure this game was never released on GameCube in Europe:
https://vgcollect.com/item/59358

The use of NA pictures might tend to confirm it.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: bobi on August 13, 2023, 05:34:41 pm
Getting a lot of edits rejected for PAL GameCube games that were rated with the 2003-2009 version of the USK 0 logo, as described here (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223).

e.g. this game:
https://vgcollect.com/item/24635

eBay listings display the same rating (https://www.ebay.de/itm/183961240784 for instance), so I’m not sure what’s wrong?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 13, 2023, 06:16:45 pm
Getting a lot of edits rejected for PAL GameCube games that were rated with the 2003-2009 version of the USK 0 logo, as described here (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223).

e.g. this game:
https://vgcollect.com/item/24635

eBay listings display the same rating (https://www.ebay.de/itm/183961240784 for instance), so I’m not sure what’s wrong?

The reason why these USK 0 rating submissions are being rejected is because the items' rating is something different. Rating field information should be for the exact rating, not an equivalent. This is also why your submissions for USK 18 were also rejected. Since there is no selectable option for the true rating, the Rating field should be left blank.

See these posts:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201734.html#msg201734
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg201322.html#msg201322
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 13, 2023, 09:42:08 pm
The Dragon Ball Z Ps2 area seems to need a lot of edits. I'm going to log them before submitting edits as a lot of these would involve changes to barcodes/tlds. Sorry for the long ass post in advance lol

I believe this barcode is incorrect, https://vgcollect.com/item/66653 3296580802699 - Been searching for a while and cannot seem to locate any item with the barcode. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126050348612 (3296580802708) seems to be default

https://vgcollect.com/item/154467 - Removing IT as no SIAE label

https://vgcollect.com/item/126480 - Removing FI SE as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/19609 - Wrong back art - edited ntsc? (will change when adding other USK version)

https://vgcollect.com/item/39259 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/147587 -  Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages. Will need Merge with https://vgcollect.com/item/51888

https://vgcollect.com/item/161325 - Would be the English EU release (Doesn't appear to of actually released in the UK)

https://vgcollect.com/item/43526 - Barcode slightly wrong should be 3296580804924 not 3296580904924. Needs NL descriptor

https://vgcollect.com/item/66457 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages.

https://vgcollect.com/item/51889 - Removing FI SE PT as those are just quickstart languages. Need Merge with https://vgcollect.com/item/170494

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: bobi on August 14, 2023, 03:45:01 am
The reason why these USK 0 rating submissions are being rejected is because the items' rating is something different. Rating field information should be for the exact rating, not an equivalent. This is also why your submissions for USK 18 were also rejected. Since there is no selectable option for the true rating, the Rating field should be left blank.

[…]

https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145223.html#msg145223

Ok, would be helpful not having these listed as USK 0 & USK 18 respectively in the rating list topic then.

I understand there’s an exception for 2003 versions of USK 6 to 16; what about 1994 versions?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 14, 2023, 10:09:04 am
The Dragon Ball Z Ps2 area seems to need a lot of edits. I'm going to log them before submitting edits as a lot of these would involve changes to barcodes/tlds.

Edits approved. I also went ahead and merged 51888 into 147587.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 14, 2023, 11:05:20 am
re Budokai Tenkaichi 3, adding the colon is fine.
I changed the barcode to UK version, matching https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195933444510

jjfly lives somewhere in Scandinavia, so a lot of his entries are most often likely releases from [DK][FI][NO][SE]

Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3
https://vgcollect.com/item/194016

Was going to change name to "Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3"
Barcode is NL but is a later edit. Dont want to appear to convert

NL - https://www.ebay.nl/itm/304761874287

https://vgcollect.com/item/46565
https://vgcollect.com/item/142416

Appears to be a variant rather then a regional release as both seen prevalent in the UK. Submitting a (Quickstart) descriptor

ebay.co.uk/itm/404435045701
ebay.co.uk/itm/115861814035
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 14, 2023, 11:08:33 am
The rating topic is just a guide, it doesn't tie directly into the site. It was created for informational purposes only.

Ok, would be helpful not having these listed as USK 0 & USK 18 respectively in the rating list topic then.

I understand there’s an exception for 2003 versions of USK 6 to 16; what about 1994 versions?

We had to start enforcing the equivalent ratings on entries once we implented the rating image to appear on entries. We haven't solved transitory images (like white vs black ESRB) but this exactness requirement also technically applies to ELSPA.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 14, 2023, 11:48:52 am
this exactness requirement also technically applies to ELSPA.

To clarify, here is an example.

ELSPA 3+

(https://i.imgur.com/GGNVtEP.jpg)

ELSPA 3-10
(https://i.imgur.com/dCJQP5k.jpg)

Rating differences outlined in this post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8623.msg145224.html#msg145224).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: bobi on August 14, 2023, 12:16:09 pm
For both ELSPA and USK they changed (respectively once and twice) the “stamp” (for lack of a better word?), not the meaning of it, as far as I know.

First I thought the rule of thumb was if the meaning remains unchanged, items must use the newer version, since, say, a „USK ab 18” from 2023 expectedly conveys the exact same meaning as a „USK Nicht geeignet unter 18 Jahren” from 1994, therefore a 1994 game with the latter USK rating should get a “USK - 18” rating as available in the DB.

For what I understand now, this is not the case and theoretically only games displaying the same stamp as the one that is in the DB for the rating entry should receive the according rating (presumably only german games from 2009 for USK).

Yet, there is still the exception kept for USK 6, 12, 16 from 2003 to 2009, which imho seems kinda half-baked between the two choices and is doomed to confuse any editor (honestly it got me quite confused why I got some changes of USK ratings from this period accepted for some entries and rejected for others).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 14, 2023, 04:53:47 pm
Didnt notice this image is of FR version - changing barcode to correct tld version https://vgcollect.com/item/89756
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 16, 2023, 10:21:48 am
I'm not too familiar with accessories/systems so I may be incorrect so submitting a request instead.

https://vgcollect.com/item/101078
Appears to be https://www.ebay.it/itm/334660650924 . Would this be for Snes instead?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 16, 2023, 10:34:09 am
I'm not too familiar with accessories/systems so I may be incorrect so submitting a request instead.

https://vgcollect.com/item/101078
Appears to be https://www.ebay.it/itm/334660650924 . Would this be for Snes instead?

No. They made controllers for multiple consoles and they all have the same box except that the console name on the front is different. I can readily find pictures for SNES, Genesis and Mega Drive. The unfortunate part is that this name appears on the box under where the price tag is on the 3DO entry, so you just can't see it. I don't find any pictures of the sides of the box, so it may say it there also, or have a different PN for the different consoles.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 16, 2023, 05:16:45 pm
Saw this just listed - https://vgcollect.com/item/241954
I know we list Press Kits but is this really an authentic item?

Yes. Resident Evil Code: Veronica X was published in Australia by THQ which explains the disc design. The item is a collection of marketing materials presumably for a magazine publication.

As a follow-up to this inquiry, the entry has been removed. The item in question was an official THQ PC disc labeled "Code Veronica X Art Work" as handwritten text on it which defined what the item's digital contents are. Items like these without any sort of official label or design aren't permitted. I submitted 241954 alongside eight others like it when submitting entries for Resident Evil items, and they've all been removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 17, 2023, 11:20:11 pm
blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/183266
https://vgcollect.com/item/183265


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 18, 2023, 09:28:10 am
Apparently when submitting items for https://vgcollect.com/item/136966 I didn't pay attention to the barcode. Barcode is for DE version and my changes were for a UK version. 
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 18, 2023, 09:39:43 am
Apparently when submitting items for https://vgcollect.com/item/136966 I didn't pay attention to the barcode. Barcode is for DE version and my changes were for a UK version.

Barcode removed
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 18, 2023, 11:24:03 am
Ive just had a disc image rejected due to being classed as the wrong one.  Its correct.

Weirdly the entire release of the FIRST edition was issued with a French game disc.  You can see this if you peruse Ebay and see that all of the game discs the game title is written in French.  The second release (Ubisoft Exclusive) had the correct English disc. 

This item came with a French disc.
https://vgcollect.com/item/70913

This one has the English disc.
https://vgcollect.com/item/175838

NOTE: here is an example of the first release with the French disc on Ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195762729049?hash=item2d945e3059%3Ag%3Ak5IAAOSwJ9li3TNp&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4NVR7DYj2TLCaNvNH%2Br%2BOc%2FbZCKqiKLxZAuSYjUF4ulBncedKViefnXZCEwb4lHDXaxCZZRBywVq5IdcO2BhWEs%2F9F%2FvlwYbj0OEdJLcqmzxRW2IGlBHUmsYks7A%2FeRCnpt5i%2FFgYlnVDYh2sFBUrxio%2FvC1fDazJYZ%2BL6dM6c%2BwRSBOsGfxHR8QBdyxqluEax2lNBrIV5HuYhKCu1xu1c0Z%2BOCc2HfGN4bl8hkR6jlkD693StbI4ift0mSEM9YMH28OeTNRIeu%2Blf0Ft8Oh5reHmdk%2BL8jf4OFDCYTjbknR%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7666ZPBYg&LH_BIN=1
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 18, 2023, 12:04:35 pm
I will do an audit to determine this.
I want to point out that this entry has been frankensteined, so it must be corrected first anyways.
There is nothing original to this entry left, so it must be UK version only.
I'll let you know what I find out.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 18, 2023, 01:02:06 pm
OK I have completed it for now, regarding existing entries and some notes on missing entries.

Dukes of Hazzard Racing From Home: https://vgcollect.com/item/70913
other spine item number: 2805056
front item number: 3307212805056
has the Ubisoft logo and USK/ELSPA 11 on back
- found with SLES-02343/0001 FR disc in UK
- found with SLES-02343 FR disc outside of UK

Dukes of Hazzard Racing From Home Ubisoft Exclusive: https://vgcollect.com/item/175838
found with SLES-02343# EN disc

Sherif Fais-Moi Peur: https://vgcollect.com/item/129777
found with SLES-02343 FR disc
example: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/184610192635

Sherif Fais-Moi Peur Ubisoft Exclusive: https://vgcollect.com/item/66443
found with SLES-02343 FR disc

There does not appear to be any SLES-02343 EN discs
The German releases have the 02343 FR disc in regular version and the 02343# EN disc in Ubisoft Exclusive

Not in DB
Italian versions are just the German versions with SAIE labels.
Found one PT version that is labelled of one of the UK versions but can't see disc number: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125710332358

There are various combinations that I did not list above for UK or general EU release that I cannot say for sure are not piecemealed. There are many instances of the UE disc being in the non UE cases. Because they appear to be peicemealed, we have to be on the side of caution and not put them into the DB unless we can find difinitive proof it exists... aka someone has to open a sealed copy and find that disc in there.

So for the entry in question (70913)
This one can be changed to (SLES-02343/0001 disc)
and have the info I posted above be put into description. Then the disc scan with that item number can be put.
Also in description goes item number for disc and the title title. In alt-name you put in the French name.

Then make a new entry for the variant with descriptor (SLES-02343 disc)
And that entry can have that French disc picture. Everything else on the entry would be the same as the other, but disc item number in desc would be different.

Update the others and add the missing ones at your leisure.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 18, 2023, 10:38:43 pm
Does this item exist? https://vgcollect.com/item/221941
I've looked up ebay, vinted and allegro - which either seem to offer the ESRB version or a key to the game.
https://vgcollect.com/item/160004 also does not exist in EU

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)

Going to replace the back of https://vgcollect.com/item/138218 . Front is UK , back is NL
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 19, 2023, 09:02:52 am
Going to replace the back of https://vgcollect.com/item/138218 . Front is UK , back is NL

When overwriting data in any way relating to mixed entry corrections, it is best to submit a new entry for the data's corresponding item. I've created a new entry for Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection [NL] (https://vgcollect.com/item/252633).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: fazerco on August 19, 2023, 12:06:28 pm
Apparently when submitting items for https://vgcollect.com/item/136966 I didn't pay attention to the barcode. Barcode is for DE version and my changes were for a UK version.

Barcode removed

Pegi 7 front, pegi 3 back, frankenstein item.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on August 19, 2023, 01:25:10 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/185523 also doesnt exist

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 19, 2023, 04:54:09 pm
Apparently when submitting items for https://vgcollect.com/item/136966 I didn't pay attention to the barcode. Barcode is for DE version and my changes were for a UK version.

Barcode removed

Pegi 7 front, pegi 3 back, frankenstein item.

The front art for 136966 has since been updated, but this is not something to report. Before, the entry featured outdated stock art. While this kind of art is incorrect and obviously could be updated to better reflect the actual item, our guidelines state that such kind of art is admissible. Instead of reporting instances of wrong stock art, simply submit the appropriate changes for them to be approved.

Also, this was not an instance of a mixed or "frankenstein" entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on August 21, 2023, 09:58:24 am
Frankenstein entries rarely are things these days, rather most that appear that way are entries that were partially converted in the past.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 25, 2023, 12:14:11 pm
The listing https://vgcollect.com/item/221733 is the re-release under [Midas] and i am going to make the amendment now. 

I have just put together the listing for the original and i will put this up also now.  The reason i am posting this here is because the one thats listed in the database has the title needed for the original.

There is another listing on the database for this game https://vgcollect.com/item/90191 and that is correct.

This title - Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the DragonBone Staff
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 25, 2023, 08:26:45 pm
The listing https://vgcollect.com/item/221733 is the re-release under [Midas] and i am going to make the amendment now. 

I have just put together the listing for the original and i will put this up also now.  The reason i am posting this here is because the one thats listed in the database has the title needed for the original.

There is another listing on the database for this game https://vgcollect.com/item/90191 and that is correct.

This title - Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the DragonBone Staff

Edit submission rejected, and I have left the entry as it for you to correct it upon reviewing why that is the case. Brackets are reserved for TLDs only, so something like [Midas] is incorrect and will always be rejected. I mentioned it in the Admin comments, but I will repeat here that the correct name for 221733 should be Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the DragonBone Staff (Midas).

90191 was not correct. I have updated its name to omit the attached [UK] TLD.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: psxlegacy on August 27, 2023, 12:09:31 am
As far as I have read online, this game has been cancelled and never released (cancelation coming recently, but 3 years after release date).

Bounty Battle (PS4)

https://vgcollect.com/item/179419

Not sure if the cancellation also applies to the other console versions, but gamefaqs has the ps4 entry as cancelled.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 28, 2023, 04:05:35 pm
I just had an edit rejected and im very confused with the changes you have made to the original listing.

I submitted a rear case scan of the True Crime Streets of LA to this listing https://vgcollect.com/item/31604 - this listing had the incorrect rear scan a Dutch edition scan.

You rejected that scan saying that this listing was for [NL].  The listing was originally not listed as [NL] you have added that into the title when you rejected my rear scan.  You have also changed the barcode.  I ALWAYS look at the barcode as the principle indicator of the database entry and this entry was 100% not the [NL] release except for the incorrect rear case scan that was on the listing.  The barcode was originally the correct common release (ending 128).

This [NL] listing now has 128 people saying this is in their collection.  I dont think that most people have the [NL] copy of this game which is much rarer release.

You have also created a new entry for the common release of this game which uses my rear scan https://vgcollect.com/item/252886 - this common release is not in anyones collection.

I dont understand why you changed the barcode on the original listing and created a new entry for the common release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 28, 2023, 04:34:02 pm
I just had an edit rejected and im very confused with the changes you have made to the original listing.

Based on the information we do know when looking at entry history, 31604 is the NL release. The NL back art has remain unchanged since 2013. There years later, UK barcode information was approved in error, which never should have been done. This field has since been corrected, and, like you've mentioned, an entry representing the UK regional variant has been submitted which has been missing until now.

Whether any number of people have the correct item listed as part of their collection or not is beyond our concern for how we determine the identity of an entry. If people are wanting an accurate representation of their actual library, they simply need to be more observant of entry details. For ten years, why did no one look at the back art for 31604 and think, wait, this art doesn't reflect the item I own, and then ask about it? Of course, the reason why is that most people are not concerned about these finer details, meaning they are also not concerned about having the correct item being added to their online collection.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: wolfen on August 30, 2023, 01:19:57 am
I created this page before the official release of Super Mario 3D All Stars and it's obsolete now and needs deleting
https://vgcollect.com/item/210380
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: endemonadia on August 30, 2023, 03:11:52 am
For ten years, why did no one look at the back art for 31604 and think, wait, this art doesn't reflect the item I own, and then ask about it? Of course, the reason why is that most people are not concerned about these finer details, meaning they are also not concerned about having the correct item being added to their online collection.[/font]

Because they checked the barcode which read as the UK release.

I just think it would make more sense to accept that this entry was seen as the UK (European) release and the new entry should have been created as NL.  But hey, thats your call.

As an aside i think it must be noted that English is the main European gaming language and therefore European games are released in English.  Basically English language games are not limited to UK only.  I get the feeling US natives dont understand this fact so when they see a UK release and think thats only released within UK borders, its not.  The UK releases were shipped all over Europe and sold in dozens of other countries.

Historically the UK releases were sold all over Europe where it was too expensive to convert games into a local European language - Europe is made up of around 50 countries, most with their own languages.

Just an observation.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on August 30, 2023, 04:55:19 am
I just had an edit rejected and im very confused with the changes you have made to the original listing.

I submitted a rear case scan of the True Crime Streets of LA to this listing https://vgcollect.com/item/31604 - this listing had the incorrect rear scan a Dutch edition scan.

You rejected that scan saying that this listing was for [NL].  The listing was originally not listed as [NL] you have added that into the title when you rejected my rear scan.  You have also changed the barcode.  I ALWAYS look at the barcode as the principle indicator of the database entry and this entry was 100% not the [NL] release except for the incorrect rear case scan that was on the listing.  The barcode was originally the correct common release (ending 128).

This [NL] listing now has 128 people saying this is in their collection.  I dont think that most people have the [NL] copy of this game which is much rarer release.

You have also created a new entry for the common release of this game which uses my rear scan https://vgcollect.com/item/252886 - this common release is not in anyones collection.

I dont understand why you changed the barcode on the original listing and created a new entry for the common release.

This is unfortunately not a rare issue it happens way to often for my taste. The sad truth is that you'll just have to delete said item from the collection and get to the correct one that is newly created it is what it is.

it's pretty annoying when blanco releases change to spanish german,dutch or french when every pal collector had this piece listed and thus only a fraction now has the correct version.

And usually when people selected a piece there was no indication what language the listing would have been the front cover in most cases is identical.

One of my big pet peeves with this site.

For ten years, why did no one look at the back art for 31604 and think, wait, this art doesn't reflect the item I own, and then ask about it? Of course, the reason why is that most people are not concerned about these finer details, meaning they are also not concerned about having the correct item being added to their online collection.[/font]

Because they checked the barcode which read as the UK release.

I just think it would make more sense to accept that this entry was seen as the UK (European) release and the new entry should have been created as NL.  But hey, thats your call.

As an aside i think it must be noted that English is the main European gaming language and therefore European games are released in English.  Basically English language games are not limited to UK only.  I get the feeling US natives dont understand this fact so when they see a UK release and think thats only released within UK borders, its not.  The UK releases were shipped all over Europe and sold in dozens of other countries.

Historically the UK releases were sold all over Europe where it was too expensive to convert games into a local European language - Europe is made up of around 50 countries, most with their own languages.

Just an observation.

Agreed UK version would the way to go for blanco entries, considering most folks either want UK version or their own language. Would be a nice middle road if they would have to change the entry to be more detailed.

I think most people who look at blanco entries think of an english release which is fine enough. When you turn something to spanish or french when your not from those countries your going to dislike alterations such as these since it's clearly not the correct item, people will care at that point.

Also it is true main ingame language for games in europe is English. Other languages happen but not in all cases let alone voice acting, but english is always there. and it is true that UK copies are available in other european countries aswell.

Personally I either collect dutch or UKV versions of games. However If I have an opportunity for a UKV copy I always convert unless the condition is allot less. I definitely do prefer my games in english, sounds a hell lot better ingame aswell.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 30, 2023, 07:21:02 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/84889

Is a Frankenstein Entry. Module belongs to the 1987 PAL Atari Corp rerelease. While the Rest seems to indicate 1981 release. I can provide back cover and module for 1981.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on August 30, 2023, 08:53:24 am
For ten years, why did no one look at the back art for 31604 and think, wait, this art doesn't reflect the item I own, and then ask about it? Of course, the reason why is that most people are not concerned about these finer details, meaning they are also not concerned about having the correct item being added to their online collection.

Because they checked the barcode which read as the UK release.

I just think it would make more sense to accept that this entry was seen as the UK (European) release and the new entry should have been created as NL.  But hey, thats your call.

Like I mentioned before which you may have overlooked (at the very least, what I said isn't a part of what you're specifically responding to), 31604 has featured NL back cover art since 2013. Partly because of metshael's conflicting 2016 Barcode edit which never should have been approved but more so simply because there have been too many edits, there is no way we are able to tell what this entry was originally supposed to be. That last principle is something we must honor—an entry's original intent as to what item it's supposed to represent. But, since we do not know for certain due to all the conflicting edits, we must look to the earliest information which can inform us, which would be stethebubble's 2013 Back Box Art edit that signifies the entry being NL.

It is important to uphold an entry's original intent. All items are equal, and it is irrelevant how many members include it as part of their collection. If a member submits an item being something as uncommon as a LT item, later edits should not be made (and especially approved) to alter it to something such as UK, which is the course of action you're suggesting.


Agreed UK version would the way to go for blanco entries, considering most folks either want UK version or their own language. Would be a nice middle road if they would have to change the entry to be more detailed.

31604 was not a blank or generic entry. It has featured region-specific information signifying NL since 2013.

That said, what you are saying is how generic entries are treated. However, the priority order is instead EU and then UK. So, if a generic entry has no discerning information for us to declare what it is, we should look to see if a EU copy exists. If it does not, then a UK copy. If that does not exist either, then some other English-cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: sworddude on August 30, 2023, 03:12:12 pm
For ten years, why did no one look at the back art for 31604 and think, wait, this art doesn't reflect the item I own, and then ask about it? Of course, the reason why is that most people are not concerned about these finer details, meaning they are also not concerned about having the correct item being added to their online collection.

Because they checked the barcode which read as the UK release.

I just think it would make more sense to accept that this entry was seen as the UK (European) release and the new entry should have been created as NL.  But hey, thats your call.

Like I mentioned before which you may have overlooked (at the very least, what I said isn't a part of what you're specifically responding to), 31604 has featured NL back cover art since 2013. Partly because of metshael's conflicting 2016 Barcode edit which never should have been approved but more so simply because there have been too many edits, there is no way we are able to tell what this entry was originally supposed to be. That last principle is something we must honor—an entry's original intent as to what item it's supposed to represent. But, since we do not know for certain due to all the conflicting edits, we must look to the earliest information which can inform us, which would be stethebubble's 2013 Back Box Art edit that signifies the entry being NL.

It is important to uphold an entry's original intent. All items are equal, and it is irrelevant how many members include it as part of their collection. If a member submits an item being something as uncommon as a LT item, later edits should not be made (and especially approved) to alter it to something such as UK, which is the course of action you're suggesting.


Agreed UK version would the way to go for blanco entries, considering most folks either want UK version or their own language. Would be a nice middle road if they would have to change the entry to be more detailed.

31604 was not a blank or generic entry. It has featured region-specific information signifying NL since 2013.

That said, what you are saying is how generic entries are treated. However, the priority order is instead EU and then UK. So, if a generic entry has no discerning information for us to declare what it is, we should look to see if a EU copy exists. If it does not, then a UK copy. If that does not exist either, then some other English-cover.


Sure European multi language should be the highest priority for a blanket entry. That being said not all consoles did this. It's mostly single language versions with quite some consoles.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on August 30, 2023, 03:37:27 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/84889

Is a Frankenstein Entry. Module belongs to the 1987 PAL Atari Corp rerelease. While the Rest seems to indicate 1981 release. I can provide back cover and module for 1981.

btw the front cover is 1981 release. The Corp-Versions don't have the reference to Time Warner - which Atari Corp was sold of to Jack Tramiel. What to do override the wrong media?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on September 05, 2023, 09:52:21 am
Re this True Crime Streets of LA
https://vgcollect.com/item/31604

Original intent should always be preserved. We can't see on-site what the original info was from the original author. This specific entry is not on WaybackMachine so we can't see old versions. Whatever was original was fully replaced by stethebubble the next year, so anything after that doesn't matter. It is common for older entries to have been made as either FR or NL releases because that is what a lot of that era art on GameFAQs is of.

If original intent cannot be acertained, it should be made to the UK version. For PS2 there usually isn't a English EU version that isn't UK as those are usually for NL or at least we can more easily determine where the thing was from as opposed to Nintendo and their EU* type versions.

For Defender
https://vgcollect.com/item/84889

2600 is different type of problem as there are many EU releases and it is all very confusing. Often a site will just say a release is from EU in general because info from back then is not as well documented as today. So even though this sort-of looks to have the same issues as the PS2 game there is no default fall-back to what a (potential) generic entry should be changed to. So this one can keep the front art but not the cart art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on September 16, 2023, 07:08:09 pm
Xbox Series X 
https://vgcollect.com/item/253744 
Empty + nonspecific listing - https://vgcollect.com/browse/xboxsxh

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on September 28, 2023, 03:14:44 pm
Blank

https://vgcollect.com/item/145600
https://vgcollect.com/item/145601
https://vgcollect.com/item/145602


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: cidraman on September 29, 2023, 08:46:41 pm
Hello.

I'm trying to upload the cover for the brazilian version of "Turboat" for the MSX.

It has been rejected, with the reply stating that "the submitted image is missing "MSX" text at the bottom-right corner.". So I'll try to explain.

There's nothing wrong with the cover. The absent MSX logo was a small label added later.

Here's the cover I was trying to add:

(https://i.imgur.com/0Z5Vaar.jpg)

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on September 30, 2023, 09:00:50 am
I'm trying to upload the cover for the brazilian version of "Turboat" for the MSX.

https://vgcollect.com/item/238723

If the label is official, meaning that it's a formal part to how the item was originally available, then the existing art is higher quality due to the image being a more comprehensive representation of the item. When you say that the label was added later, are you meaning that it's not official and was applied later on by a third party? If that's the case, then your new image will be approved if re-submitted, but only if the label is explained.

Below is the original image in question.
(https://i.imgur.com/c7WRoSz.jpg)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: cidraman on September 30, 2023, 10:19:54 am
No, it went to stores with the label (meaning it was not added by a third party). I was pointing that the label was not a part of the original art, and it's common to encounter these boxes without the label in present days.

But I understand keeping the image that resembles the original product the most.

Sorry for any trouble and thank you for your attention.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on October 01, 2023, 06:25:28 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/119528

Barcode is for DreamWorks Madagascar 2 - Platinum [NL]
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58689400/playstation-2-games/ps2-madagascar-2-escape-to-africa-platinum/#description
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on October 02, 2023, 08:30:18 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/119528

Barcode is for DreamWorks Madagascar 2 - Platinum [NL]
https://www.player2gamestore.nl/a-58689400/playstation-2-games/ps2-madagascar-2-escape-to-africa-platinum/#description

Rejected your first edit and approved the subsequent one you submitted upon the first's rejection. The entry now correctly represents the NL DreamWorks Madagascar 2 Platinum variant and not DreamWorks Masagascar Platinum. Since the entry originally had the former EAN information paired with incorrect front art, we should assume that is why the later 2019 Name field edit was made in error.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on October 03, 2023, 09:35:01 am
No, it went to stores with the label (meaning it was not added by a third party). I was pointing that the label was not a part of the original art, and it's common to encounter these boxes without the label in present days.

But I understand keeping the image that resembles the original product the most.

Sorry for any trouble and thank you for your attention.

We usually put into description about the label. For this an example would be :

"black MSX label on front cover"

if the label is only on sealed items, then you use a description like this:

"black MSX label on front cover of sealed copies only"
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on October 12, 2023, 12:07:40 am
Tried to fix this Hard Boiled Flare Wolf listing. https://vgcollect.com/item/120300 (https://vgcollect.com/item/120300) 
Proposed edit: https://i.imgur.com/7C2Tf7A.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/7C2Tf7A.jpg) (cart art)
The cart art is using a prerelease render of what the figure was originally going to look like. The actual release looks like the one in my proposal. Skylanders had a lot of renders like this used throughout the franchise history where the render looked one way and the final product ended up different, usually because the promo material would get leaked or released long before the figures were actually ready. As such, many of the prerelease renders/stock photos should be changed to images of the actual products. 
 
Another reason for this is that a lot of these renders and stock photos (for boxes too) look absolutely fantastic in terms of paint quality, texture, and color vibrancy. Meanwhile, the actual product you get is far from that, especially with the Imaginators line where the final product paint quality is at the lowest point in the series. An example of this is with Chompy Mage https://vgcollect.com/item/155938 (https://vgcollect.com/item/155938), I proposed an edit for the cart art using an image of the actual figure quality (https://i.imgur.com/Cq4sDBW.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/Cq4sDBW.jpg)) which was rejected. That render looks great, but the colors just aren't right compared to the real figure unfortunately. 
 
If that figure really ended up looking as nice as that render, it might've justified the extremely expensive price tag (over $200!)  :(
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on October 12, 2023, 09:50:24 am
Updated those two, only because there are instances of vast or different plastic or paint colors. The plastic being completely different on the first one, where the stock photo shows a two-tone plastic insert but the released product has a single color. The second one because the ghost/slime being a completely different shade of green, one that is seen in the packaged art.

In general, you may see a reject on a loose item picture if it is reasonable to expect that the color difference is close enough and that it is entirely possible that the color difference is or can be due to differences in lighting and camera settings. So the first one was obvious because the insert plastic was completely different, but the second one I almost didn't do because my first thought was that lighting could be the cause of the difference. But your picture more closely matches what was in the front art. If that hadn't been present then that second one may not have been updated.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on October 12, 2023, 10:03:20 am
Updated those two, only because there are instances of vast or different plastic or paint colors. The plastic being completely different on the first one, where the stock photo shows a two-tone plastic insert but the released product has a single color. The second one because the ghost/slime being a completely different shade of green, one that is seen in the packaged art.

In general, you may see a reject on a loose item picture if it is reasonable to expect that the color difference is close enough and that it is entirely possible that the color difference is or can be due to differences in lighting and camera settings. So the first one was obvious because the insert plastic was completely different, but the second one I almost didn't do because my first thought was that lighting could be the cause of the difference. But your picture more closely matches what was in the front art. If that hadn't been present then that second one may not have been updated.

Regarding 120300 (https://vgcollect.com/item/120300), empovyle did not mention their attempted Barcode field update which was rejected. The rejected Barcode edit was to replace the existing information with 047875880719 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/355007238436). Search results for 047875879447 do appear, but I haven't been able to confirm any boxed copies with that sequence. That said, it isn't uncommon for Skylanders variants to exist and items seldom being present on eBay. This issue alongside the previous cart art being original to the entry led me to believe there may be more than one Hard-Boiled Flare Wolf figure, which I've still yet to determine one way or another.

As for 155938 (https://vgcollect.com/item/155938), I rejected it for the same reason you mentioned—the quality differences between the two are minor and seem more present due to lighting.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: empovyle on October 12, 2023, 02:19:10 pm
Yeah, I'm not sure about that barcode edit... I fear that the original editor may have just copy/pasted it from an incorrect website instead of logging it from their own box but we may never know. I can't find any other North American version, they all seem to have the 047875880719 barcode.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on October 12, 2023, 06:20:27 pm
I'm trying to fill in some gaps while replacing pictures. 7 Blades seems to have additional variants I can add with some seeming to differ with barcode and keepcase colour . 

UK blue keepcase
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256225253262

UK black keepcase
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266447335504

ES blue keepcase
https://es.wallapop.com/item/7-blades-para-playstation-2-927871517

ES black keepcase
https://es.wallapop.com/item/7-blades-play-2-940621139


Other items seem to differ by just the keepcase colour eg. France.

Black Keepcase
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/355086254283
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/304904540566

Blue Keepcase
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/165652758401

I assume I could likely use the last digits of the barcodes/spine number as descriptors.

A notable difference however between some of these items seems to be the type of hologram used.
Can/Should items be separated by Hologram? A more clear example can be seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/m1f2ps/holographic_logo_stickers_on_ps2_cases/
I'd have to look further into Holograms to definitively say if they were used after only a specific date or if they were mixed and matched.


Another ex.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374243454043
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155813723999
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on October 13, 2023, 08:29:27 am
I'm trying to fill in some gaps while replacing pictures. 7 Blades seems to have additional variants I can add with some seeming to differ with barcode and keepcase colour . 

I assume I could likely use the last digits of the barcodes/spine number as descriptors.

A notable difference however between some of these items seems to be the type of hologram used.
Can/Should items be separated by Hologram? A more clear example can be seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/m1f2ps/holographic_logo_stickers_on_ps2_cases/
I'd have to look further into Holograms to definitively say if they were used after only a specific date or if they were mixed and matched.

For items where the differences are apparent beyond their packaging type such as a detail like spine number and barcode like with UK and ES 7 Blades, those should be prioritized as entry name descriptors (the former more so than the latter, if possible) Packaging components can be and regularly are swapped when sold on secondary markets, so unless we observe sealed copies, relying upon those kinds of details isn't guaranteed to be accurate. This also goes for any image which is submitted featuring the outer case.

Judging by our community's response to hologram labels in general, that is perhaps reason enough to not be so eager to create variant entries based on hologram design differences. Along those lines, given our site's image size restraints, those details would not be visibly discernible in any way whatsoever, anyway. If there are hologram label differences, I think it's an interesting detail that's still worth mentioning in the Description field, but only to that extent. We've done similar actions for minor differences regarding ring hubs (https://vgcollect.com/item/232874), paper sleeves (https://vgcollect.com/item/4108), and matrix codes (https://vgcollect.com/item/248652), as well, where we only utilize the Description field.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on October 13, 2023, 10:09:23 am
Regarding case colors, I'd say if you can find 3 separate examples of the item with the black case (or 1 sealed example) then it would be enough to warrant inclusion. If the primary difference between these vars across all countries is the color of the case, then you'd be looking at naming like so:

Game (blue case)
Game (blue case) [ES]
Game (blue case) [FR]
Game (black case)
Game (black case) [ES]
Game (black case) [FR]

And existing or other countries would need to be renamed to fit that pattern.

For the hologram difference, only adding text to description if it is confirmed that both examples exist. Which again means verifying multiple copies of each where each include the same contents. So this means that is we think that 7 Blades in France is sold with 2 different holograms, we then also want to be able to verify contents which is going to include whether or not the manual is different, the disc or if there is any inserts. Also be on the lookout for whether one of these can actually be sourced as an import to a different country.

If you can't verify that both exist in this way, then the one that should be added to the site is the one with the most listings on Ebay. Then save the other one until you can research it again in the future. There are a ton of things I don't submit to the site because I don't have enough information to warrant it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on October 17, 2023, 11:33:49 pm
blank entry

https://vgcollect.com/item/255674

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on October 20, 2023, 10:11:10 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/255815

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on October 21, 2023, 11:48:45 am
those entries should imho be one entry?

https://vgcollect.com/item/205746
https://vgcollect.com/item/205744

is the front and back of the box (as described in the item text). The box contains two cartridges and two manuals.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on November 08, 2023, 10:23:03 am
Dynasty Warriors 3

https://vgcollect.com/item/81683

Front cover is a ES version of the game
Barcode is from (The Best Koei) version and does not match the back cover submitted

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/386254325108    - 4005209031028
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126173667037    - 5060073301089

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on November 08, 2023, 11:24:17 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/256510

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on November 09, 2023, 10:13:33 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/256529 - Not certain where item is from but Needs renaming + Wrong Platform
https://vgcollect.com/item/256530 - Barcode is Spanish, images are Australian

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on November 09, 2023, 12:09:58 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/256529 - Not certain where item is from but Needs renaming + Wrong Platform
https://vgcollect.com/item/256530 - Barcode is Spanish, images are Australian

This is a new user who made these. the first one had NL barcode so it was moved
The second item was just deleted since the images and barcode were made at the same time and I'm not going to bother to guess which one they actually had.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on December 16, 2023, 01:05:52 am
Made some silly typos in my edit of Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Seven e-Reader card Bonus Included!) (https://vgcollect.com/item/258572) which is my bad. Also, the Demo cards don't have card numbers in the same way the Power-Ups and Levels do so I've added the little ID at the bottom of the card instead.

I've revised what I wanted to add to the Description below and I will be submitting this:

Some copies of the game from Walmart included the 2 standard bonus e-Reader cards: the Power-Up Super Leaf (Item 03) and the Level Wild Ride in the Sky (Level 01) in addition to 5 extra bonus e-Reader cards: the Power-Up Super Mushroom (Item 01), the Power-Up Fire Flower (Item 02), the Power-Up 1-Up Mushroom (Item 18), the Demo for World 4-6 (Card ID: 52512A 07-E004), and the Level Airship's Revenge (Level PR) for 7 cards total.

EDIT: ...to my embarrassment I've left out an apostrophe for the Level "Airship's Revenge". If you see this, please accept my second edit and not my first.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on December 16, 2023, 09:59:58 am
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Seven e-Reader card Bonus Included!) (https://vgcollect.com/item/258572)

Edit approved. The information was still confusing to read from the perspective from someone not having the item in-hand, though, so I re-organized the content alongside adding complete card item number information based on information collected from the game's wiki (https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Advance_4:_Super_Mario_Bros._3_e-Reader_cards#/media/File:World_4-6_Unlimited_1-Ups.jpg).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: price5474 on December 23, 2023, 04:11:17 pm
bank entry

https://vgcollect.com/item/258993

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on December 29, 2023, 05:06:51 pm
EyeToy: Play Sports (Not to be Sold Separately)
https://vgcollect.com/item/164802

Gained a barcode
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: spectre51 on December 31, 2023, 12:55:42 pm
Admins have rejected my edits for two titles and on one (Aliens: Fireteam Elite) posted a link to the title that even shows the correct info I am trying to put in that they rejected.

Aliens: Fireteam Elite - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/211574
Correct release date as shown by the PlayStation store should be 08/23/21 - admins even posted this url with the edit rejection which shows 08/23: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP6951-PPSA03393_00-ALIENSFIRETEAMUS


Alan Wake: Remastered - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/248891
Genre per the PS store is Action, not Action-Adventure as the admin comments on the edit rejection keep saying. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/alan-wake-remastered/
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on December 31, 2023, 01:33:31 pm
Admins have rejected my edits for two titles and on one (Aliens: Fireteam Elite) posted a link to the title that even shows the correct info I am trying to put in that they rejected.

Aliens: Fireteam Elite - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/211574
Correct release date as shown by the PlayStation store should be 08/23/21 - admins even posted this url with the edit rejection which shows 08/23: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP6951-PPSA03393_00-ALIENSFIRETEAMUS

Wrong. (https://i.imgur.com/VwwXkHB.jpg)

MobyGames (https://www.mobygames.com/game/170040/aliens-fireteam-elite/releases/playstation-4/), GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/314383-aliens-fireteam-elite), and Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens:_Fireteam_Elite) also confirm an August 24, 2021 date.


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Alan Wake: Remastered - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/248891
Genre per the PS store is Action, not Action-Adventure as the admin comments on the edit rejection keep saying. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/alan-wake-remastered/

I may or may not have rejected your Genre field edit, although it wasn't a recent rejection if so. That said, I can almost fully guarantee that none of the staff responding to edit submissions are verifying genre information from individual digital storefronts but instead by using objective classifications. It isn't really an important field for the purpose of our site in documenting items, but it exists, nonetheless. That said, I personally will only reject Genre edits if they're objectively wrong.

On that note, here are Wikipedia's definitions for action games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_game) and action-adventure games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action-adventure_game). Meanwhile, here is their article for Alan Wake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Wake) which defines its genre which is correct given the definition for the two genres in question. It's also important to note that PlayStation's digital storefront doesn't include a formal "action-adventure" genre tag would explain why it's incorrectly listed as action.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: 62gaming on January 01, 2024, 02:21:59 am
Admins have rejected my edits for two titles and on one (Aliens: Fireteam Elite) posted a link to the title that even shows the correct info I am trying to put in that they rejected.

Aliens: Fireteam Elite - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/211574
Correct release date as shown by the PlayStation store should be 08/23/21 - admins even posted this url with the edit rejection which shows 08/23: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP6951-PPSA03393_00-ALIENSFIRETEAMUS

Wrong. (https://i.imgur.com/VwwXkHB.jpg)

MobyGames (https://www.mobygames.com/game/170040/aliens-fireteam-elite/releases/playstation-4/), GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/314383-aliens-fireteam-elite), and Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens:_Fireteam_Elite) also confirm an August 24, 2021 date.

I see the 23rd as well, I'm not sure what causes this weird discrepancy. (https://i.imgur.com/lYFE5ws.jpg)

Maybe it's some weird regional thing?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 01, 2024, 09:18:27 am
Admins have rejected my edits for two titles and on one (Aliens: Fireteam Elite) posted a link to the title that even shows the correct info I am trying to put in that they rejected.

Aliens: Fireteam Elite - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/211574
Correct release date as shown by the PlayStation store should be 08/23/21 - admins even posted this url with the edit rejection which shows 08/23: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP6951-PPSA03393_00-ALIENSFIRETEAMUS

Wrong. (https://i.imgur.com/VwwXkHB.jpg)

MobyGames (https://www.mobygames.com/game/170040/aliens-fireteam-elite/releases/playstation-4/), GameFAQs (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/314383-aliens-fireteam-elite), and Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens:_Fireteam_Elite) also confirm an August 24, 2021 date.

I see the 23rd as well, I'm not sure what causes this weird discrepancy. (https://i.imgur.com/lYFE5ws.jpg)

Maybe it's some weird regional thing?

That could be the case. Nevertheless, 24 should be the date supplied to the Day field, since it's corroborated by so many other sources.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: pfogel on January 02, 2024, 12:05:16 pm
My edit of the item number for Lylat Wars [DE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/40187) was rejected.
I used the number above the barcode on the back of the box.
Any reason why it was rejected?

For reference: this ebay offer has a good image of the back
https://www.ebay.de/itm/374895209235
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 02, 2024, 12:20:19 pm
My edit of the item number for Lylat Wars [DE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/40187) was rejected.
I used the number above the barcode on the back of the box.
Any reason why it was rejected?

For reference: this ebay offer has a good image of the back
https://www.ebay.de/itm/374895209235

No comment reject of "NUS-P-NFPP-NNOE" which seems to be correct. Try to do it again.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: smesgr on January 02, 2024, 01:21:05 pm
is a frankenstein entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12763 has cartridge image of the 1983 Atari Inc "silver label" release but front(?) and back cover is from the 1988 Atari Corp "gray label" release.
See better picture quality of '88: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_7429.html vs. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_8020.html

Btw some of the Pole Position entries have Namco as Developer some of them Atari (Inc). Namco "only" did the Arcade version. The game was licensed by Atari and developed for Atari 2600 by Atari themself. Atari also distributed the Namco-Arcade in NA.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 02, 2024, 01:24:34 pm
My edit of the item number for Lylat Wars [DE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/40187) was rejected.
I used the number above the barcode on the back of the box.
Any reason why it was rejected?

For reference: this ebay offer has a good image of the back
https://www.ebay.de/itm/374895209235

No comment reject of "NUS-P-NFPP-NNOE" which seems to be correct. Try to do it again.

Subsequent edit approved. I'm unsure who rejected the initial submission.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 02, 2024, 01:32:54 pm
is a frankenstein entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12763 has cartridge image of the 1983 Atari Inc "silver label" release but front(?) and back cover is from the 1988 Atari Corp "gray label" release.
See better picture quality of '88: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_7429.html vs. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_8020.html

12763 seems to feature front art from the 1988 release. It's somewhat difficult to notice given the entry's image size, but the "VIDEO GAME CARTRIDGE FOR THE ATARI 2600™ VCS™" text is formatted differently between the two items. For the 1988 release, the text is thinner and adjusted ever-so-slightly more to the left.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 03, 2024, 10:48:37 am
is a frankenstein entry:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12763 has cartridge image of the 1983 Atari Inc "silver label" release but front(?) and back cover is from the 1988 Atari Corp "gray label" release.
See better picture quality of '88: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_7429.html vs. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-pole-position_8020.html

12763 seems to feature front art from the 1988 release. It's somewhat difficult to notice given the entry's image size, but the "VIDEO GAME CARTRIDGE FOR THE ATARI 2600™ VCS™" text is formatted differently between the two items. For the 1988 release, the text is thinner and adjusted ever-so-slightly more to the left.

No action was taken by a Database Admin or higher, so I've made the corrections.

Pole Position (1983) (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/12763)
Pole Position (1988) (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/137970)

There are third and fourth variant entries in the category as well, and I'm unsure what the "i2 variant" entry (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/47563) is, so it has not been corrected or given additional details.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 03, 2024, 12:56:37 pm
Even that work won't be enough. Many times I've tried to start and stop working on some of those categories, mostly Atari but stopped because it would rely heavy study and use of that Atarimania site (I wish they would move to HTTPS already) and other resources. At least Atarimania makes an attempt of separating out the variants by country, which is why they are the best to refer to, but other resources do not such as this:
https://www.videogamevariations.com/AtariLabelList.pdf

In regards to "i2 variation", searching for that term in conjunction with Atari 2600 only returns results from VGC. I was not able to locate any other reference to this. Since the description isn't used to explain what it means, and there has been no change to the entry since it was made, we can only merge it with one of the other ones. Unless you can figure out later on what i2 is referring to.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 03, 2024, 01:45:41 pm
Even that work won't be enough. Many times I've tried to start and stop working on some of those categories, mostly Atari but stopped because it would rely heavy study and use of that Atarimania site (I wish they would move to HTTPS already) and other resources. At least Atarimania makes an attempt of separating out the variants by country, which is why they are the best to refer to, but other resources do not such as this:
https://www.videogamevariations.com/AtariLabelList.pdf

Since the description isn't used to explain what it means, and there has been no change to the entry since it was made, we can only merge it with one of the other ones.

As you and I both know, the work is never done. At least now the entry details for both are better at defining what the variances between the two items are. Maybe one day it'll be possible to more clearly outline the numerous other variants across the system's library.

47563 has been merged into 12763.


Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 03, 2024, 09:14:20 pm
Doom 3 - Limited Collector's Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/42508

Seems to be a blend of Italian and a Nl version (?) https://www.gameland-groningen.nl/nl/doom-3-collectors-edition-xbox.html

https://vgcollect.com/item/182941
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 04, 2024, 10:31:33 am
Doom 3 - Limited Collector's Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/42508

Seems to be a blend of Italian and a Nl version (?) https://www.gameland-groningen.nl/nl/doom-3-collectors-edition-xbox.html

https://vgcollect.com/item/182941

Updated front and barcode, removed back
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: ferraroso on January 04, 2024, 09:56:36 pm
For some reason, this Panzer Dragoon long box case is registered as a PS4 Accessory:
https://vgcollect.com/item/206476 (https://vgcollect.com/item/206476)

I've no idea where should it be (or even if it should be considered an entry in itself), but I guess that isn't the correct location, right?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 05, 2024, 10:29:33 am
It came from Limited Run, so it was sold without a game which is why it is there. It was either included with the bundle mentioned in description as an accessory or as a separate item which is why it has a listing like this.

For some reason, this Panzer Dragoon long box case is registered as a PS4 Accessory:
https://vgcollect.com/item/206476 (https://vgcollect.com/item/206476)

I've no idea where should it be (or even if it should be considered an entry in itself), but I guess that isn't the correct location, right?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: pfogel on January 05, 2024, 05:03:30 pm
(I guess this thread is correct until one is created for 2024?)

My edit of the release date for Super Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (JVC) ( https://vgcollect.com/item/64426 ) was rejected.
The comment was
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There are two variants for this item. Until we can confirm when exactly each was released, no Date field information should be supplied.
Are those two versions from THQ / JVC?
I got the date form gamefaqs ( https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563220-super-star-wars-return-of-the-jedi/data ) where the THQ version is listed with a release in 1997 whereas the JVC version is from 03/30/1995, which I tried to enter.

Do I miss another version of JVC?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 05, 2024, 05:14:48 pm
(I guess this thread is correct until one is created for 2024?)

My edit of the release date for Super Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (JVC) ( https://vgcollect.com/item/64426 ) was rejected.
The comment was
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There are two variants for this item. Until we can confirm when exactly each was released, no Date field information should be supplied.
Are those two versions from THQ / JVC?
I got the date form gamefaqs ( https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563220-super-star-wars-return-of-the-jedi/data ) where the THQ version is listed with a release in 1997 whereas the JVC version is from 03/30/1995, which I tried to enter.

Do I miss another version of JVC?

If it's confirmed by some sources for the JVC release (https://vgcollect.com/item/64426) to have been released on March 30, 1995, that information can be supplied and will be approved if it's resubmitted. On the other hand, the Date field information for the THQ entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/106770) should be removed. GameFAQs reports a March 21, 1997 for some THQ-published release containing a SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2 cartridge, but we do not currently have an entry for such an item yet. Based on the entry's Item Number data, 106770 is for a SNSP-ARJP-EUR-1 cartridge.

In many cases for variants, Date information should be supplied so liberally since many of these items release at unknown times. There isn't any reason to guess or recycle bad data from other sources. It's perfectly fine to leave a entry field blank if information can't be confirmed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: pfogel on January 05, 2024, 07:33:19 pm
It seems i'm unable to find any information on SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2, everything I see is the SNSP-ARJP-EUR-1 for THQ.

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If it's confirmed by some sources for the JVC release to have been released on March 30, 1995, that information can be supplied and will be approved if it's resubmitted
It might not be perfect proof but I still want to show what I found

I just researched for a bit and ended up looking through old magazines linked in the sources of the Wikipedia page for the game. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Star_Wars:_Return_of_the_Jedi )

JVC
- Source 12 is a PDF which has a review of Return of the Jedi on page 122-123 (Or 150-151 in the PDF) which only mentions JVC as the publisher.
- The back side of the manual of the JVC version also states it's exclusively published and distributed by JVC ( A readable picture of the manual is in this offer https://www.ebay.de/itm/134467651291 ).

THQ
- Source 6 of Wikipedia is also a PDF which states that Super Return of the Jedi will be rereleased by THQ alongside the special editions of the movies in 1997 (Just a short sentence in brackets on the bottom of page 22).
- The manual of THQ also does not mention any exclusivity ( A readable picture of the manual is in this offer https://www.ebay.de/itm/364631466342 ).

This would align with the info from gamefaqs.
Most other sources I saw state that the original release was by JVC and THQ only did a rerelease but those were mostly only some forum entries or sites were I don't know if the info is user distributed - such as snes central.

EDIT: Added the Wikipedia page for better traceability
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 05, 2024, 08:49:04 pm
Posting this message here as suggested by dhaabi - as there are also other approvers for edits.

A few of the updated descriptions that I submitted for TW releases containing DLC flyers have been rejected as it was suggested in the rejected comments to list them out individually & be specific with the names vs just "DLC flyers". 

The names for DLC flyers are a bit difficult because those flyers are usually in Chinese without any English on them so if I put the names I will need to translate them myself and hard to find them on PSN store online as well (some may not even be available anymore) / hard to check past PSN transaction history for the actual DLC names since it doesn't show all the items in pack other than the title which sometimes doesn't mean anything either and sometimes can't even tell which game it is for (due to the limited functions on PSN online page). In most cases, you won't be able to find it by googling either unless you search by the Chinese name of it. Also don't want to exclude the 'DLC flyers' from the list either since those are contained in the actual package.

Right now (for the most recent edits - considering the rejected comments) I have just put a short description to differentiate the flyers. I would rather do that (though more generic) than provide a wrong translation of the DLC names. If I have the exact names of each DLC on hand I will include it in another paragraph like how it was suggested via another thread "DLC flyer has a code printed that unlocks" etc.

Also, if a rejected edit is lengthy, it would be great if the approvers could send a PM of the rejected edit text to the editors, so people don't have to re-enter the whole thing again (with minor adjustments) just to re-submit. That saves time for the editors from re-typing it all and encourages people to re-submit with the adjusted info.

The DLC one above is one of the examples where the whole description text was updated to the correct format but got rejected because of "DLC flyers" where the whole description will stay in the original incorrect format unless I re-enter and re-submit the whole description field again. For some, people will then just leave it 'as is' rather than re-entering & re-submitting.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 06, 2024, 11:12:48 am
It seems i'm unable to find any information on SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2, everything I see is the SNSP-ARJP-EUR-1 for THQ.

When performing a string search for SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2, the only search result appears from GameFAQs. So, it may be safe to assume that information is inaccurate. However, I won't be the one to make that decision and instead have a Database Admin or higher do so.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: nathan776 on January 06, 2024, 07:54:46 pm
Empty listing
https://vgcollect.com/item/132449

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 08, 2024, 10:30:28 am
In general, release dates are always going to be a problem for games that get a reprint as the vast majority of release date information goes back to the late 90s where websites and list-masters (on BBS/text faqs) did not know or consider reprints. So the issue then becomes a game will have a date, which is likely correct for one of the releases but it should not be used until it is confirmed as to which one. And that is just for single countries like the US.

For EU it becomes more difficult, as a date is likely correct for some version in some country, but it is not clear as to which it is. So we are stuck with having a bunch of information that isn't clearly tied to specific releases only specific games. Even if you were to presume that all EU release dates are for UK versions, you will still run into situations where you can find non-UK being released before UK. So for EU it may be best to just stick with a year and not try to do the entire date. Video game researchers are going to need to start getting info from distributors of the time before we are going to get the precise information.

We can infer an order to releases. For with Nintendo, a -1 is newer than without and a -2 is newer than a -1. They are known to use a -x on a cart when a big reprint is made (new publisher like this Star Wars, or GH-style reprint) BUT a -x can be found on a correction or international release also.

It seems i'm unable to find any information on SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2, everything I see is the SNSP-ARJP-EUR-1 for THQ.

When performing a string search for SNSP-ARJP-EUR-2, the only search result appears from GameFAQs. So, it may be safe to assume that information is inaccurate. However, I won't be the one to make that decision and instead have a Database Admin or higher do so.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 08, 2024, 10:37:45 am
When listing the items included in a release, you should be "good enough" to list out different flyers. You do not need to specify what a DLC is exactly or its exact name or translation, but in the inclusion list it should be clear enough so that a person can tell immediately.

So if a game has a DLC flyer, "DLC flyer" is good enough, or "DLC flyer with unlock code" or "DLC flyer item number x" are other examples. If there are multiple different flyers for DLC, then the text would only be able to be part of the name if the item has no item number. Such as "horse armor DLC flyer" and "sword DLC flyer"

As for rejects, in your notification log, the text you attempted to use should be shown under "New value"
https://vgcollect.com/notifications

Is this not true or is it instead not showing all of it? Not concerned about it not showing the formatting such as returns, extra lines, etc.

Posting this message here as suggested by dhaabi - as there are also other approvers for edits.

A few of the updated descriptions that I submitted for TW releases containing DLC flyers have been rejected as it was suggested in the rejected comments to list them out individually & be specific with the names vs just "DLC flyers". 

The names for DLC flyers are a bit difficult because those flyers are usually in Chinese without any English on them so if I put the names I will need to translate them myself and hard to find them on PSN store online as well (some may not even be available anymore) / hard to check past PSN transaction history for the actual DLC names since it doesn't show all the items in pack other than the title which sometimes doesn't mean anything either and sometimes can't even tell which game it is for (due to the limited functions on PSN online page). In most cases, you won't be able to find it by googling either unless you search by the Chinese name of it. Also don't want to exclude the 'DLC flyers' from the list either since those are contained in the actual package.

Right now (for the most recent edits - considering the rejected comments) I have just put a short description to differentiate the flyers. I would rather do that (though more generic) than provide a wrong translation of the DLC names. If I have the exact names of each DLC on hand I will include it in another paragraph like how it was suggested via another thread "DLC flyer has a code printed that unlocks" etc.

Also, if a rejected edit is lengthy, it would be great if the approvers could send a PM of the rejected edit text to the editors, so people don't have to re-enter the whole thing again (with minor adjustments) just to re-submit. That saves time for the editors from re-typing it all and encourages people to re-submit with the adjusted info.

The DLC one above is one of the examples where the whole description text was updated to the correct format but got rejected because of "DLC flyers" where the whole description will stay in the original incorrect format unless I re-enter and re-submit the whole description field again. For some, people will then just leave it 'as is' rather than re-entering & re-submitting.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 08, 2024, 10:42:06 am
As for rejects, in your notification log, the text you attempted to use should be shown under "New value"
https://vgcollect.com/notifications

Is this not true or is it instead not showing all of it? Not concerned about it not showing the formatting such as returns, extra lines, etc.

The notification log only shows abbreviated information for any data submitted over 70 characters. There is no way to expand it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 08, 2024, 12:01:06 pm
I can change it but let's see what Jason has to say.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 09, 2024, 04:27:39 am
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So if a game has a DLC flyer, "DLC flyer" is good enough, or "DLC flyer with unlock code" or "DLC flyer item number x" are other examples. If there are multiple different flyers for DLC, then the text would only be able to be part of the name if the item has no item number. Such as "horse armor DLC flyer" and "sword DLC flyer"

All good with the above options mentioned for the DLC flyers and straightforward as well (with some good "options" that can be used to differentiate the different flyers).

However, the rejected comments I received were referring to specific DLC name/s and with cases where there was only one flyer involved (2 examples below where both had the 'dlc flyer' submitted as one of the edits in the description field and both got rejected due to the 'dlc flyer' not being acceptable (where both have now been updated with more description):

https://vgcollect.com/item/256155
https://vgcollect.com/item/146097

The rejected comments for the two above were categorized under Incorrect Formatting and the more detailed comments relate to DLC name/s.

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As for rejects, in your notification log, the text you attempted to use should be shown under "New value"
https://vgcollect.com/notifications

Is this not true or is it instead not showing all of it? Not concerned about it not showing the formatting such as returns, extra lines, etc.

It only shows part of the edited texts submitted (i.e. texts allowed for one line and then it cuts off the rest) - screenshot of the example mentioned above under "New value":

(https://i.imgur.com/cUNv6b9l.jpg)

Other than the DLC name comment, the follow-on comment "need to explain the other includes besides game and flyer" was also a bit unclear since the edited description had the actual game name, artbook name, soundtracks listed, and 'DLC flyer' in it - where the 'DLC flyer' was the only more 'generic' item in that description.

So, in such scenarios, unless the approvers send a PM to the editor with the texts submitted, the editor will need to re-enter the whole text again for them to re-submit (which would discourage re-submissions if the edited fields are 'lengthy').
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 09, 2024, 09:57:39 am
I'll keep it in mind regarding the large text. The bug that causes the text to be truncated has been partially identified and added to the internal project log and Jason is now aware of it. Hopefully it is only a small change that will make it so the entire text is retained in the notification log (although it may not look that great considering how much text you can have in desc/box) and make things a little easier.

I am the one who was in the queue where some of your edits were denied, but not the edits you say were relating to specific DLC names. As such the "need to explain the other includes besides game and flyer" is also from me. I believe it was for this as you say:
https://vgcollect.com/item/256155

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includes:
• End of Eternity 4K/HD Edition
• Art Collection <--- what is this?
• Original Soundtrack CD <--- what is this?
• Battle Track Collection CD <--- what is this?
• DLC flyer for original PS4 theme and character avatar set

Since there is no place to show pictures of these items, or links to them from the entry, we need to be clear as to these other items in the description. From the above:
- if Art Collection is a book, then the text should be Art Collection book or End of Eternity Art Collection book.
- use of text "Original Soundtrack CD" makes me think this text is lifted from somewhere or it is a partial title. Is it supposed to be End of Eternity Original Soundtrack CD?
- This battle Track CD, is it an audio CD also? Is the game name missing?

Remember that it may be easy for you to know what the things are that you list if you own the item or have it in hand. For everyone else, we need to be able to look at the info provided and be able to discern what exactly they are without having to do any additional research. Especially if we don't have the item either.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 09, 2024, 02:22:15 pm
As such the "need to explain the other includes besides game and flyer" is also from me. I believe it was for this as you say:
https://vgcollect.com/item/256155

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includes:
• End of Eternity 4K/HD Edition
• Art Collection <--- what is this?
• Original Soundtrack CD <--- what is this?
• Battle Track Collection CD <--- what is this?
• DLC flyer for original PS4 theme and character avatar set

Since there is no place to show pictures of these items, or links to them from the entry, we need to be clear as to these other items in the description. From the above:
- if Art Collection is a book, then the text should be Art Collection book or End of Eternity Art Collection book.
- use of text "Original Soundtrack CD" makes me think this text is lifted from somewhere or it is a partial title. Is it supposed to be End of Eternity Original Soundtrack CD?
- This battle Track CD, is it an audio CD also? Is the game name missing?


I believe this is where the approvers could align better and have some consistency. I have asked & discussed these descriptions by using one example (as the base) with dhaabi before the edits of the other listings. What was mentioned was that "if a component like a book has the game name also on it, I tend to shorten it while just using the actual book name, so Visual Book would be fine. I suppose lengthened would be okay too if it really seems like a part of the item name. If that same book were to have its own entry, though, definitely use the full name like in these examples" - which also makes sense to me and is reasonable to keep both options available.

And yes, if we go back to the above example, Art Collection / Original Soundtrack CD etc are all the actual exact names of the items without the game name. Being an entry about the game itself, repeating the game name on every single item seems to be overkilling it in my view (unless the component title is referring to a totally different thing [i.e. another game] then yes - that should be specific) as it also keeps the description field look simple & tidy to read. I also followed the same type of logic that has been mentioned in another thread keeping redundant/unnecessary terms out of it (i.e. "Switch Game" mentioned in the description list for it being a Switch category = terms redundant). However, as mentioned above, it makes complete sense to have the full name of a component if it is being entered as an individual entry in the database.

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Remember that it may be easy for you to know what the things are that you list if you own the item or have it in hand. For everyone else, we need to be able to look at the info provided and be able to discern what exactly they are without having to do any additional research. Especially if we don't have the item either.
And yes, I am aware of that (even more so after a few edit rejects) and this is something that I have also discussed with dhaabi before whether the actual item names are preferred vs a general name for the items. In the end, I concluded and noticed that sometimes it is best not to use the 'exact names' of the components because it's not easy to tell what the item is exactly, and in cases where I see that I just used a general standard name for the item (i.e. artbook). The Art Collection could have been a little more descriptive I guess...to mention it being a 'book' since it could also be like 'art cards' etc. However,  the soundtrack CDs I would think it's self-explanatory as it is...

Also want to mention that not all approvers are rejecting the edits where people didn't put the media types such as "CD" for soundtracks at the end in those description names.
So, I believe people would sometimes get it 'accepted' and/or 'rejected' - where some may wonder why it got accepted and/or rejected without posting here and just left it where it was instead of re-entering the whole field for re-submission. One of the rejected edits I received was not having the word "CD" after 'soundtrack' in the updated description.

There were also other cases where I updated the game title to the English common name (which is what I saw in one of the old game listings being updated by one of the approvers) - where the initial game title edits also got rejected until I re-submitted them after clarification to confirm that it should be updated.

Once again, think most of these refer back to the original point at the start, where I believe this is where the approvers could align better and have some consistency.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 09, 2024, 02:45:11 pm
Once again, think most of these refer back to the original point at the start, where I believe this is where the approvers could align better and have some consistency.

I will briefly mention that this is why I've directed you to post to the public forum in the dedicated topic for rejected edits instead of there being a private conversation between member and one staff. Posting publicly benefits everyone through transparency and as a place for common understanding as to why certain actions were done or not done to be established.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 09, 2024, 02:53:32 pm
Once again, think most of these refer back to the original point at the start, where I believe this is where the approvers could align better and have some consistency.

I will briefly mention that this is why I've directed you to post to the public forum in the dedicated topic for rejected edits instead of there being a private conversation between member and one staff. Posting publicly benefits everyone through transparency and as a place for common understanding as to why certain actions were done or not done to be established.

Yes - although the original post here is mainly about the DLC flyers being rejected which has now been expanded.
The other items were just formatting Q&As, which mainly took place before the rejected edits (except the common name one I guess) :P.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 10, 2024, 10:09:28 am
For a physical game includes list, you typically do not need to put the game name on each line, this is true. But consider it for the more common things like the media and manual. These things you are listing are extra contents. Perhaps the name is not needed and maybe if Art Collection was Art Collection book, it would have been fine. But I recall that particular name to be the primary reason for the reject.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 10, 2024, 11:58:52 pm
For a physical game includes list, you typically do not need to put the game name on each line, this is true. But consider it for the more common things like the media and manual. These things you are listing are extra contents. Perhaps the name is not needed and maybe if Art Collection was Art Collection book, it would have been fine. But I recall that particular name to be the primary reason for the reject.
Ok - got it~
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 19, 2024, 10:44:16 pm
Need clarification between steelbooks (to be put in the 'steelbooks' category) vs platform-specifc steelbooks (to be put in the platform-specific 'accessory' category).

To be honest, didn't see we have a 'steelbook' category until recently - which may have been there for a long time...however, then at the same time, it's causing some confusion.

Even having the steelbooks with me, I can't really differentiate between the two categories / nor know which category the item/s should go into which by answering the questions from the approver/s, and was obviously thinking something not entirely the same when 'platform-specific' was mentioned (i.e. beyond just whether there's a PS / Switch logo on the case)  ??? 

Re:Crystar steelbook: https://vgcollect.com/item/260201 (https://vgcollect.com/item/260201)
Is this specific SteelBook platform specific? Is there any way to tell? Unlike the Switch releases which have the Nintendo Switch logo on them, is there any PlayStation logo, like with the Gran Turismo item I linked before? https://vgcollect.com/item/140114 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140114)

For the above:
- It was only available with the PS4 game as a preorder bonus in Asian countries. An official item.
- In addition to the publisher name etc on the case, only SteelBook [steelbook.com] etc printed inside the case, no PS4 logo. [I double-checked]

With the above info, it should stay in the 'steelbooks' category even though it was only ever available with the PS4 game?  ???
Did notice that's what has been done with the Shenmue III steelbook https://vgcollect.com/item/170030 (http://Shenmue III steelbook https://vgcollect.com/item/170030)

With that being said, some of the other PS4 steelbooks that came with the launch/deluxe editions/pre-order bonuses don't have PlayStation logo etc printed on it either (like the traits above). So, if those are to be listed as individual items, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs being considered as platform-specific 'accessory' category? ???
Don't know about the Switch ones yet, will have to look through some to be able to tell whether all have the logo or not. If there are ones that don't have the logo, once again, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs the platform-specific 'accessory' category?  ???
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 20, 2024, 10:36:47 am
There are a lot of Steelbooks released that are not platform specific, and many instances where a steelbook is found in and sold with a game on multiple platforms. Also there are instances where a steelbook that is sold with a game AND also sold separately at retail.

So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 20, 2024, 11:22:29 am
So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.

This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123), seen here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195784322480).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 20, 2024, 02:51:33 pm
So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.

This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123), seen here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195784322480).

While re-categorizing some entries currently placed in ConsoleName Accessory sub-cats, I came across two different SteelBooks for Persona 5 Strikers—one designed for PlayStation 4 (https://vgcollect.com/item/195768), and the second for Switch (https://vgcollect.com/item/195766). However, neither have any markings indicating which platform they relate to, with the differences instead being the items' dimensions and the interior media holder for either disc or cartridge, as seen in these (https://www.ebay.com/itm/325955292738) two (https://www.ebay.com/itm/134781322791) eBay listings. Since there are no markings, they both belong in the Steelbooks sub-cat. Can we agree that Persona 5 Strikers (PlayStation 4) and Persona 5 Strikers (Switch) are ideal entry names? The term SteelBook is redundant as part of the Name field, given the category name.

Edit: The same can also be said for the following two sets of items:
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/233261)
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/233262)
Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/216907)
Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/217905)

As an aside, this topic name needs updating to reflect the new year.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 20, 2024, 06:31:36 pm
So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.

This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123), seen here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195784322480).

Ok - got it.

Other than the steelbooks, re back image for Star Ocean PSP console https://vgcollect.com/item/215764 (https://vgcollect.com/item/215764). I think I submitted the correct pic originally (unless I selected the wrong one by accident) because both front and back looks almost identical. Regardless, have resubmitted. Noting that the current back image is not the back but the side of the box.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: dhaabi on January 20, 2024, 06:54:43 pm
Other than the steelbooks, re back image for Star Ocean PSP console https://vgcollect.com/item/215764 (https://vgcollect.com/item/215764). I think I submitted the correct pic originally (unless I selected the wrong one by accident) because both front and back looks almost identical. Regardless, have resubmitted. Noting that the current back image is not the back but the side of the box.

Re-submission approved. To me, even now, the front and back cover images appear the same, so I assumed earlier that you submitted the image to the wrong field by mistake.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: puddingm on January 20, 2024, 08:33:33 pm
Other than the steelbooks, re back image for Star Ocean PSP console https://vgcollect.com/item/215764 (https://vgcollect.com/item/215764). I think I submitted the correct pic originally (unless I selected the wrong one by accident) because both front and back looks almost identical. Regardless, have resubmitted. Noting that the current back image is not the back but the side of the box.

Re-submission approved. To me, even now, the front and back cover images appear the same, so I assumed earlier that you submitted the image to the wrong field by mistake.

Yes, had that feeling being the case. The only difference that I could tell is the opening flap lines at the back of the box :P

(https://i.imgur.com/7DQ7047l.jpg)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 21, 2024, 10:57:59 am
So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.

This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123), seen here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195784322480).

No. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
Post by: tripredacus on January 21, 2024, 11:01:07 am
So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.

This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword (https://vgcollect.com/item/233123), seen here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195784322480).

While re-categorizing some entries currently placed in ConsoleName Accessory sub-cats, I came across two different SteelBooks for Persona 5 Strikers—one designed for PlayStation 4 (https://vgcollect.com/item/195768), and the second for Switch (https://vgcollect.com/item/195766). However, neither have any markings indicating which platform they relate to, with the differences instead being the items' dimensions and the interior media holder for either disc or cartridge, as seen in these (https://www.ebay.com/itm/325955292738) two (https://www.ebay.com/itm/134781322791) eBay listings. Since there are no markings, they both belong in the Steelbooks sub-cat. Can we agree that Persona 5 Strikers (PlayStation 4) and Persona 5 Strikers (Switch) are ideal entry names? The term SteelBook is redundant as part of the Name field, given the category name.

Edit: The same can also be said for the following two sets of items:
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/233261)
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/233262)
Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/216907)
Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga SteelBook (https://vgcollect.com/item/217905)

As an aside, this topic name needs updating to reflect the new year.


All Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into. The PS4 one would just have the disc nub, so it would go into the SteelBook Merch category.