General and Gaming => Off Topic => Topic started by: jcalder8 on January 17, 2013, 02:19:59 pm
Title: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on January 17, 2013, 02:19:59 pm
Since a thread was already derailed with wrestling talk I thought we should just give it it's own thread :)
I grew up watching bits and pieces of wrestling through late 80s and early to mid 90s and then I followed it closely until about 2002.
Andre Vs Hogan at Wrestlemania had fantastic build up.
The wrestlers that I remember the most are some of the worst ideas ever: Papa Shango, IRS, Isaac Yankum, The Mountie... ect
I have just started to watch some classic Royal Rumbles starting with 1991 and I have to say that I still love the Million Dollar Man 8)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: soera on January 17, 2013, 02:36:50 pm
Ahhh man, this was definitely me in my childhood all the way through my 20s. One of my favorite things was Saturday Night's main event. Our entire family would sit in the living room and for 3-4 hours just watch some awesome matches. Superfly was one of my favorites for a long time as well as the Ultimate Warrior. It also started one of my very first crushes and that was Miss Elizabeth. Such a beautiful woman. (RIP). I really miss watching good wrestling. It was truely enjoyable. I do not understand what it turned into. Overly fake bouts and mostly just dramatic bullshit.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on January 17, 2013, 02:40:16 pm
The wrestlers that I remember the most are some of the worst ideas ever: Papa Shango, IRS, Isaac Yankum, The Mountie... ect
You mean to tell me it wasn't awesome when Papa Shango made the Ultimate Warrior's boots catch of fire? I think you are wrong, sir. Those were the best days.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 17, 2013, 02:47:27 pm
I'm a lifelong wrestling fan. I loved the 80s and the mid-to-late 90s eras the most.
The 80s just because there was such a wide of selection of wrestling available to fans between the WWF, NWA (WCW before it was officially "WCW"), and the WCCW. And there was big stars at each organization that kept you watching. AWA was around too, but I never did like the AWA. The Freebirds and Von Erichs at WCCW; Ric Flair, the Four Horsemen, Sting, and T.A. Magnum at NWA; and of course Hogan, Macho Man, Rowdy Roddy Piper, and Jake the Snake at WWF.
The mid-to-late 90s was even better because WCW and WWF were in huge competition with each other which caused the Attitude Era with The Rock, Austin, Degeneration-X, and the Corporation at WWF; and over at WCW you had the nWo, Goldberg, Crow-Sting, and the luchadors. Such good stuff coming from wrestling at that time.
Nowdays, wrestling is a pale shadow of it's former glory. WWE is just for the kiddies anymore, and TNA always gets so close to greatness just to screw it all up. I still keep updated with what's going on, though, and I'll DVR the shows and fast-forward to the little bit of good stuff that's still around. I really like Austin Aries and Bobby Roode over at TNA, and in the WWE the return of The Rock has kept me watching for now. I can't comment on ROH, because for some strange reason they don't air their show in California. I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: thegooch989 on January 17, 2013, 07:40:56 pm
I'm a life long fan as well. I have almost twice as many wrestling dvds as I do games. I've also done some refereeing, ring announcing, and dvd commentary on local independent shows.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: soera on January 17, 2013, 07:55:27 pm
Im glad someone mentioned Goldberg. He was the fuckin man. I looked forward to him every week. Come in, destroy some moron, spear that fucker to the mat and leave the ring the same way he came in. No talking, no bullshit. Just slaughter and leave.
I also enjoyed Steve Austin. He was seriously entertaining. It wasnt too long after people like that left that I gave up on it.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: scott on January 17, 2013, 11:57:25 pm
Im glad someone mentioned Goldberg. He was the fuckin man. I looked forward to him every week. Come in, destroy some moron, spear that fucker to the mat and leave the ring the same way he came in. No talking, no bullshit. Just slaughter and leave.
I also enjoyed Steve Austin. He was seriously entertaining. It wasnt too long after people like that left that I gave up on it.
I loved Goldberg era WCW. I think it was the only time I was really into Wrestling at all. There was always so much hype surrounding his matches, especially when the win streak was getting ridiculously high. It MADE you tune in to every show just to see if he could pull off another win.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on January 18, 2013, 11:07:18 am
F Goldberg! NWO 4 Life! I hated the unbeatable gimmik. It was cool at first, but it went on way too long. I was in for the whole NWO run. I was in highschool and the WWF Attitude stuff hit me right in the wheelhouse.
Wrestling to me was best when it was a silly with cartoon characters in the late 80's/early 90's. Give me the Mega Powers and the Ultimate Maniacs! I almost cried when the Undertaker put the Ultimate Warrior on the coffin. That shit was REAL!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on January 18, 2013, 12:14:03 pm
Because I live in Canada we didn't get the WCW until after they had already lost the lead to WWF so I missed out on the best days of NWO and Goldberg :(
I loved seeing the Rock and Austin's mic work with each other. Rock and Austin singing from 2001 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3k1ts_wwe-the-rock-and-stone-cold-sing_news)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: soera on January 18, 2013, 12:46:18 pm
And now my favorite of all time was mentioned: The Undertaker. He was the personification of what I liked in everything. Dark, badass, just awesome. I remember before one of the Wrestlemanias I went to the local flea market and had a custom Undertaker shirt printed to wear that night. Man, the memories.
I liked NWO but I still have to say that Goldberg rocked! :)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on January 18, 2013, 12:51:08 pm
Who here has seen a pay-per-view in person?
The WWF had one in Vancouver BC that I tried to get tickets for but they were sold out by the time I got through :(
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 18, 2013, 12:54:25 pm
Wrestling rarely comes to our area at all. I'm in Northern California, 3 hours north of the Bay Area in Redding.
I saw a local indie show that SUCKED. There was maybe 3 rows back worth of people there only. They didn't even sell beer or concessions of any sort. And the main attraction was the Honkey Tonk Man...in the 2000s. They were called "Big Time Wrestling". What was really funny, is that they were selling WCW and WWE merchandise (and this was after WCW was long gone) rather than their own.
WWE did come to our town once for a house show. And it was pretty good. Obviously nothing big happened since it wasn't aired on T.V. But we still got to see stars like Cena, HHH, and Christy Hemme in action. (I REALLY saw Christy Hemme in action when she bent over in front of me in a short skirt so she could give the microphone to some kid in the audience ;) )
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on January 18, 2013, 02:10:32 pm
The WWF had one in Vancouver BC that I tried to get tickets for but they were sold out by the time I got through :(
This guy. When I was in college a friend of mine's wife won tickets on the radio. So, we saw The Undertaker fight Brock Lesner in a Hell in the Cell match in Little Rock. I wasn't into wrestling at the time, so I can't remember much other than that. It was fun though.
*edit* It was No Mercy in 2002. I had to google it. I couldn't remember.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: thegooch989 on January 18, 2013, 06:12:21 pm
The WWF had one in Vancouver BC that I tried to get tickets for but they were sold out by the time I got through :(
I was at WWF In Your House in September of 1995. Headlined by Shawn Michaels & Diesel vs Owen Hart & Yokozuna.
That's awesome. That was closer to the time when wrestling was awesome.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: ko1ru on January 18, 2013, 09:53:03 pm
I have no interest in it whatsoever, but I do remember my grandma (little old lady) lived for the stuff. It's practically all she watched (aside from QVC), and she called it "wrasslin'". LOL
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on January 18, 2013, 10:46:28 pm
The WWF had one in Vancouver BC that I tried to get tickets for but they were sold out by the time I got through :(
I was at WWF In Your House in September of 1995. Headlined by Shawn Michaels & Diesel vs Owen Hart & Yokozuna.
That would have been awesome!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 03, 2013, 12:46:58 pm
I HATE THE YES AND NO CHANTS!!! It's really hard to take Daniel Bryan (Bryan Daniels) seriously as a championship contender when nearly all of his interviews and promos end up with him yelling YES! and NO! over and over again!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: spac316 on October 04, 2013, 09:45:17 pm
Yeah, I'm a connoisseur of professional wrestling. I watch WWE mostly. TNA can go to hell! Anyway, I used to be a bigger fanatic back then but not so much now. I still enjoy it though. Of course my user name is taken from a mixture of wrestler names like X-pac and Austin 3:16. I neither like nor dislike X-Pac but I really liked Stone Cold Steve Austin!
I have attended some live events all in Seattle, WA... A house show in 2002 Some RAW and Smackdown Tapings through out the early 2000's Wrestlemania 19 No way out 2009 I haven't been to anything after that though...
Some of my favorites are The Undertaker Stone Cold Steve Austin Ric Flair Hulk Hogan Bret Hart Rowdy Roddy Piper Daniel Bryan(Bryan Danielson) CM Punk Natalya Golddust Mick Foley(Mankind, Cactus Jack, Dude Love) HHH HBK Lita Edge Christian Chris Jericho RVD Rey Mysterio Sin Cara Kane The Big Show AJ Styles Shark Boy Jushin Thunder Liger
That's most of my favorites, I do have more...
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 08, 2013, 07:59:17 pm
I'm wondering, because it looks like Netflix isn't getting this one, so buying it looks to be the only choice. None of the Redboxes around here carry WWE DVDs ever.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: spac316 on October 14, 2013, 03:34:22 am
I look at wrestlers in a broader sense and not just by the company they are signed for in general. Aside from that, I USED to like TNA back in the FSN and internet stream days. But after Spike TV picked it up and the poor management running the show, I lost interest. It's to bad because there are some very talented young athletes in the organization. To bad they pay to much attention to the older ones that can't wrestle as good as they used to or can't at all! But that's just me. WWE is not perfect either!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 14, 2013, 01:15:27 pm
I look at wrestlers in a broader sense and not just by the company they are signed for in general. Aside from that, I USED to like TNA back in the FSN and internet stream days. But after Spike TV picked it up and the poor management running the show, I lost interest. It's to bad because there are some very talented young athletes in the organization. To bad they pay to much attention to the older ones that can't wrestle as good as they used to or can't at all! But that's just me. WWE is not perfect either!
For the most part I agree with you. But in this particular case, not so much. You can't really seperate A.J. Styles from TNA because he's the face of TNA. Much like you can't really seperate John Cena from (PG) WWE.
And dear god, those old TNA shows were bad. I wasn't around, and ordering them weekly. But I relived it through the TNA Year One DVD and TNA Asylum Years DVD, and that stuff was so dull and dry. The ring-work I could see was good, unfortunately the bad production values, shoddy camera work, and fly-by-the-minute with no plan commentating killed any good it had.
I for one am very glad that someone like Dixie came along and put some money behind everything. Despite the popular opinion being that anything that goes big "sells-out", a little production value actually helps a lot, especially when we're talking about spectacle-type entertainment like pro-wrestling.
I'll admit that things took a nose-dive after Bischoff and Hogan signed on, though. The entire Immortal storyline was far too drawn out and felt like they were beating a dead-horse (nWo version 6.0 or whatever they were on).
After they got that crap out of the way, things have been looking up again. Guys like Austin Aries, A.J. Styles, Bobby Rhoode, and Bad Influence are shining as they should and giving us killer matches.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 14, 2013, 01:19:00 pm
I'm wondering, because it looks like Netflix isn't getting this one, so buying it looks to be the only choice. None of the Redboxes around here carry WWE DVDs ever.
Dang, now I want this one, as well! And again, not on Netflix. They don't even have a listing for it.
Did Netflix lose it's deal with WWE or something? Am I gonna have to switch to Blockbuster Online or Hulu?
Anyone seen this one, either?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 30, 2013, 07:17:23 pm
Damn, Damien Sandow got buried, like 6 feet under. That was tough to watch.
Super-Cena is back. Looks like we're going back to WWE mediocrity again.
Man, it was nice while it lasted, though, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 02, 2014, 11:23:45 pm
So apparently A.J. Styles is signing a deal with ROH.
That means when A.J. Styles left TNA, with the TNA Championship, and defended it around world in places like AAA in Mexico and New Japan; he did all that FOR REAL! That is so freaking bad-ass! Nobody has done that since Flair left to WWF with the WCW Title in the early 90s. A.J. Styles is officially the biggest bad-ass in wrestling! Yeah Punk did it already, but that was all a set-up for a storyline. If A.J. Styles is signing to ROH, it's not a storyline, and that's just crazy.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 02, 2014, 11:26:14 pm
So apparently A.J. Styles is signing a deal with ROH.
That means when A.J. Styles left TNA, with the TNA Championship, and defended it around world in places like AAA in Mexico and New Japan; he did all that FOR REAL! That is so freaking bad-ass! Nobody has done that since Flair left to WWF with the WCW Title in the early 90s. A.J. Styles is officially the biggest bad-ass in wrestling! Yeah Punk did it already, but that was all a set-up for a storyline. If A.J. Styles is signing to ROH, it's not a storyline, and that's just crazy.
Meh, nevermind. The report has to be false. Styles is on Impact, tonight.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 14, 2014, 07:56:46 pm
The Ultimate Warrior to be Inducted Into the WWE Hall of Fame:
Tonight I watched an episode from the Attitude Era. Damn what a difference.
What surprised me is that they actually showed the "WWF" logo all over the place and the wrestlers and announcers said "WWF" and "World Wrestling Federation" without being bleeped or silenced. And the production value was a bit lower. You don't notice it, really, because it was upped in such a small amount for such a long period of time. But the Raw looked almost cheaply made, compared to today's WWE productions.
That said, it didn't diminish the entertainment value whatsoever. The promos were better. The feuds were better. The matches were better. The announcers were better. And the over-all-feel had this explosive feeling to it like anything could happen and whatever that anything was, it was going to kick ass.
You see this, of course, in the many DVD documentaries and hand-picked matches from here and there. But when you watch an entire episode of Raw from then, it really evokes and entirely different feel than the WWE of today.
And the audience, oh man, the audience was a riot in itself. They chanted during nearly every match. Like every 3 people in the audience had a sign or logo or something. And the entire time they were charged and on their feet.
I know people think a lot of us jaded wrestling fans are just waxing nostalgic about wrestling in the past. But tonight just solidified it for me, it's not just nostalgia, wrestling truly was something to behold back then. Owen Hart & The Legion of Doom vs. D-X, The Rock vs. Farooq, Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon, Undertaker vs. Kane, and Sunny! Great stuff on this particular episode.
I'm very happy with my purchase. This will provide a bit of viewing for me, for a little while.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 30, 2014, 04:37:23 pm
So Sting vs. Undertaker rumors are swirling again, since Sting was "fired" from TNA recently. Do you guys think it'll happen this time?
Who do you guys think the investor is going to be on TNA tonight? It better be someone big, TNA needs something to reinvigorate them like never before.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on February 23, 2014, 01:50:50 pm
I know he's old and as a result he's not gonna be giving us any in-ring performances. But damn, it's still the freaking Hulkster! And now The Undertaker, too! Plus it's now the first week in the WrestleMania PPV period, so things should really ramp up tonight.
Is anyone else as excited for Raw this week as I am?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on February 24, 2014, 09:07:11 pm
So, what does everyone think of the WWE Network? Launched today, 7-Day Free Trial.
I was hoping for entire seasons of Raw, Smackdown, Nitro, and Thunder to watch. Not at all. While the PPVs selection is SUPERB, I want to see everything leading up to those PPVs, as well, as the storylines were intended to be seen.
There are HUGE holes in the Raw selection. And absolutely zero Nitro and Thunders.
For now, I'm content to continue growing my wrestling DVD collection.
When they add the seasons I want, then I'll give them my 6 month commitment, because then I'll be able to watch something not available elsewhere and it'll be worth my $60. Until then, I'll watch some old PPVs for the next 6 days.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on February 27, 2014, 07:18:13 pm
So, what does everyone think of the WWE Network? Launched today, 7-Day Free Trial.
I was hoping for entire seasons of Raw, Smackdown, Nitro, and Thunder to watch. Not at all. While the PPVs selection is SUPERB, I want to see everything leading up to those PPVs, as well, as the storylines were intended to be seen.
There are HUGE holes in the Raw selection. And absolutely zero Nitro and Thunders.
For now, I'm content to continue growing my wrestling DVD collection.
When they add the seasons I want, then I'll give them my 6 month commitment, because then I'll be able to watch something not available elsewhere and it'll be worth my $60. Until then, I'll watch some old PPVs for the next 6 days.
I bought it day 1. I didn't even do the free trail. The amount of PPV content is worth $10 a month and the fact that I won't have to pay $60 for Wrestlemania makes it more than worth it.
I hope over the course of the year they continue bring out content. As you said there are next to no Raw's and zero Nitro and Thunder.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 05, 2014, 03:16:45 am
The spirits are speaking to me and telling this great steed of a warrior to not linger with the dead! Oh no! For I must strike like lightning, and proceed with caution! For who knows what snares and traps lie ahead as I use my great warrior strength to prevail in epic victory. For today is that day. The day long foretold in times past by the great warrior ancestors. They told ME! I was the chosen one! And before my very being it was revealed when and where I shall take hold of this great prize that lies in the darkness before my battle-hardened eyes! NOW IS THE TIME!
Translation: The new WWE Ultimate Warrior DVD is out! I've got to get this one!
Ultimate Warrior was my first favorite wrestler as a child.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 05, 2014, 03:39:47 am
I use to totally like wrestling back when I was a kid in the 90's, I still remember going to a video store that closed down probably in the late 90's that had tapes for wrestling that I'd go rent. Some of my favorites were...
I watched some wrestling through like the NWO era and stuff like that, but I think I kinda stopped watching it around the start of the 2000's when I lost interest.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on April 05, 2014, 11:22:19 am
The spirits are speaking to me and telling this great steed of a warrior to not linger with the dead! Oh no! For I must strike like lightning, and proceed with caution! For who knows what snares and traps lie ahead as I use my great warrior strength to prevail in epic victory. For today is that day. The day long foretold in times past by the great warrior ancestors. They told ME! I was the chosen one! And before my very being it was revealed when and where I shall take hold of this great prize that lies in the darkness before my battle-hardened eyes! NOW IS THE TIME!
Translation: The new WWE Ultimate Warrior DVD is out! I've got to get this
Ultimate Warrior was my first favorite wrestler as a child.
The Warrior did the best promos. When I say best, I mean hilariously awful. They made no sense, but they were awesome. YouTube is a gold mine for them.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 09, 2014, 12:12:37 am
The Ultimate Warrior passes away at 54 (http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/uw-2124962.jpg)
Just watched him, like minutes ago on my DVR on the Hall of Fame Ceremony. Crazy.
He was the first pro-wrestler I was fan of as a kid.
Holy crap! Maybe we will see Undertaker vs. Sting! Totally marking out right now!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on April 10, 2014, 11:39:54 pm
They can have a match and them go back to the old folks home and share some pudding. It's about 15 years too late for me to give 2 shits about The Stinger.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 10, 2014, 11:44:39 pm
They can have a match and them go back to the old folks home and share some pudding. It's about 15 years too late for me to give 2 shits about The Stinger.
But unlike Hogan or Flair, Sting can actually still wrestle. He's just wasted that talent in TNA.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 12, 2014, 10:28:05 pm
Jeff Jarrett and Shane Douglas both announced they are starting separate wrestling organizations to compete against WWE and TNA.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jannugimes on May 13, 2014, 11:50:26 am
Marc Mero was the best wrestler of all time. Golden Glove winner too. When he rolled Sable (at the peak of her Playboy popularity) into a small package and pinned her in the retirement match at one of the PPVs, then came out the following night on Raw to massive boos and proceeded to tell the entire arena to fuck themselves...he became legend in my eyes. And his theme music was wicked. Some favourite moments: Ricky the Dragon/Macho Man. When Butterbean knocked out Bart Gunn. I'm pretty sure Gunn still needs a feeding tube.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2014, 12:06:11 pm
^ You've got to be the first person I've ever heard praising Marc Mero.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 13, 2014, 12:07:03 pm
My wrestling game collection. (I know, many are missing cases, I've always been a player before being a collector, so as long as it's a perfectly playable, store-bought copy, I'm happy.)
The one next to War Zone that hard to see is WCW Nitro on PS1, and the one that's hard to see below TNA Impact is WWF WrestleMania the Arcade Game on Saturn. The SNES game above TNA Impact that's hard to see is WWF Raw.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on June 10, 2014, 12:22:43 pm
So my wife was watching E! News the other night, and according to them, WWE is soon to see huge, sweeping changes to the roster. Apparantly from what my wife told me (she watches Total Divas which is why she's interested) that a large portion of the roster will be going bye-bye, including some of the Total Divas stars.
Sounds like Vince's losses a week or two back hit him harder than reports were initially saying. Makes sense, considering.
WWE is having an open casting call for Sting look-a-likes. Which means that contract signing he did a month or so back, is coming to fruition! We will see Sting debut soon! Rumors are pointing to as early as next week's Raw, even.
Can't argue with the #1 pick, that's the last guy I'd want pissed at me. I think we could add The Big Show to that list, too. Just getting slapped by that big of a hand would probably put you out for a day or two.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on June 29, 2014, 09:36:47 pm
Can't argue with the #1 pick, that's the last guy I'd want pissed at me. I think we could add The Big Show to that list, too. Just getting slapped by that big of a hand would probably put you out for a day or two.
Is Batista on the list? Kurt Angle? The Undertaker? What about CM Punk? Those guys all have quite a bit of Jiu Jitsu and MMA training. Athletic guys with a solid amount of real fight training is a scary thing.
In unrelated news: There's an Ultimate Warrior thing on Netflix. It is amazing.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on June 30, 2014, 02:20:04 pm
Can you believe that?! 1 away from the record. It makes me sick.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: spac316 on June 30, 2014, 05:49:50 pm
For those complaining about Cena winning the title at MitB, relax. I'm sure they just want to put over Seth Rollins or something. I look forward to how this angle will turn out in the next month or so.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on June 30, 2014, 07:46:59 pm
For those complaining about Cena winning the title at MitB, relax. I'm sure they just want to put over Seth Rollins or something. I look forward to how this angle will turn out in the next month or so.
Never. Cena hater for life. The business started taking a nose-dive and has continually gone downhill since he "put the company on his shoulders", as he put it.
It's sad when 2.0 ratings gets WWE excited. Before Cena's "reign" WWE was regularly pulling in 6.0 and 7.0s! That speaks volumes. Hell, the crowd speaks enough regardless of ratings. When half the crowd is chanting "Cena sucks!" on a nightly basis, you might want to make somebody else your company man. Sure, not EVERYONE liked Goldberg or Austin, but it sure as hell wasn't even close to half the crowd that disliked them. I don't what Vince's obsession is with Cena.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 08, 2014, 12:11:44 pm
Free preview of the WWE Network until the 14th!
Also, Bret "The Hitman" Hart is supposed to be on Raw next week.
I wouldn't miss Raw if you're a Sting or WCW fan, tonight.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 15, 2014, 12:13:26 pm
So disappointed. I was hoping that even if Sting was just there for the game, that they'd at least announce a Monday Night Wars or WCW themed storyline mode.
But no, he's just a freaking pre-order exclusive. >:(
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 28, 2014, 01:03:40 am
TNA Impact Wrestling Cancelled by Spike TV (http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/27/impact-wrestling-cancelled-spike-tv-tna/)
And things just get worst for the wrestling industry, ouch.
Jeff Jarret's new Global Force Wrestling can't get up and running soon enough.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on July 28, 2014, 11:39:32 am
TNA Impact Wrestling Cancelled by Spike TV (http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/27/impact-wrestling-cancelled-spike-tv-tna/)
And things just get worst for the wrestling industry, ouch.
Jeff Jarret's new Global Force Wrestling can't get up and running soon enough.
I'm actually surprised that they lasted as long as they did.
In the last few months, TNA has sucked worse than it EVER has. But in the last couple of weeks, it seems they've realized that and turned things around. The returned focus on the X-Division, the return of the six-sided ring, the returns of Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Bobby Roode, and Rhyno.
I'm more excited for this week's Impact than I am Raw. So this was disappointing news to hear, for me.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 28, 2014, 12:14:55 pm
Vince Russo kills yet another wrestling company. That guy is a cancer when it comes to wrestling, seriously.
Apparently Spike TV told TNA already they wanted nothing to do with Russo, but recently found out that he's still working for TNA and THAT'S why they decided not to renew TNA's contract.
I wouldn't want anything to do with the guy, either, after seeing what he did to WCW, a company that actually managed to beat WWF in ratings before Russo came on board.
TNA Impact Wrestling Cancelled by Spike TV (http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/27/impact-wrestling-cancelled-spike-tv-tna/)
And things just get worst for the wrestling industry, ouch.
Jeff Jarret's new Global Force Wrestling can't get up and running soon enough.
I'm actually surprised that they lasted as long as they did.
In the last few months, TNA has sucked worse than it EVER has. But in the last couple of weeks, it seems they've realized that and turned things around. The returned focus on the X-Division, the return of the six-sided ring, the returns of Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Bobby Roode, and Rhyno.
I'm more excited for this week's Impact than I am Raw. So this was disappointing news to hear, for me.
I'm glad that they finally brought back the six-sided ring! I haven't watched in years but it just became a knockoff wwe when they went away from the X-division.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 29, 2014, 12:13:39 pm
J.R.'s take on this, makes the most sense out of any speculation I've heard:
Jim Ross posted another blog today on the Spike TV - TNA situation. With Spike TV commenting stating that they "don't comment on ongoing negotiations," and TNA President Dixie Carter also stating that negotiations were ongoing, JR wondered if this was simply spin by the two sides, or if Spike was indeed negotiating to get a lower rights fee. He also speculated on if Spike TV may be trying to purchase the company, like they did when they recently bought out Bellator MMA. "Could Spike be thinking like TBS, Turner Broadcasting Systems, when Jim Crockett Promotions found themselves in financial trouble and TBS bought WCW and perhaps be looking to add a pro wrestling brand to their list of properties? Spike/Viacom recently bought out MMA company Bellator," he wrote. "Those would be two fresh, first run programs that appeal to a primary male demo and that seems to be the Spike profile or so it seems to me based on their current programming more often than not.
"Why would Spike want to get rid of one of the few shows on their network that garners over 1M viewers per week in prime time? That makes no sense to me but Spike negotiating to keep TNA at a lower dollar does."
Much more is contained in Ross' latest blog, including more on this situation, his podcast with Sting, Vince Russo, WWE's upcoming conference call and more. You can check out the full entry by clicking here.
Also, don't forget to order some of JR's BBQ Sauce, which is great for the kitchen and the grill, at WWEShop.com by clicking here.
And J.R. is still pawning off his "famous" BBQ sauce, lol!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on July 29, 2014, 12:14:00 pm
WWE stretched to breaking point after McMahon leaves crew without vital provision
The WWE and Vince McMahon, amidst an increasingly strained economic setting, are making drastic cuts that have seen the organization, and in particular it's live shows, put at risk.
Whilst WWE CEO Vince McMahon has previously looked to counter the financial difficulties which have beset the company in recent times by offloading fringe wrestlers and promoting the WWE Network, WrestleZone revealed Friday that he has now moved on to cuts that could impact the live shows that are the very lifeblood of the organization.
Bus cancelled
The report revealed that following McMahon's implementation of a $20 million budget cut, the WWE production crew has been hugely impacted.
With such a busy schedule of live shows ranging from Raw and Smackdown to pay-per-view events, those charged with setting up and dismantling the set once the likes of John Cena and Roman Reigns are long gone are the WWE crew.
The behind the scenes work is not usually complete until around 1am, and with shows often lined up for the very next day in cities and towns hundreds of miles away, the WWE had previously given crew access to a bus so as to allow them to get much needed rest ahead of another busy day.
That, it has been revealed, is no longer the case.
As reported by Justin LaBar, the crew are now being forced to drive themselves to the different show locations. This is a problem on two counts. Firstly they can no longer get as muchrest and thus will be working on less sleep and therefore could be likely to make what could prove to be fatal errors in judgement when setting up as a result.
Secondly, it is clear from sources close to the situation that the crew are becoming increasingly fed up with the situation that is leaving many exhausted.
Trouble brewing
As is now common knowledge, the WWE are desperately trying to find a solution to their money worries.
With a projected loss of $50-$60 million by year's end McMahon has risked the wrath of the WWE employees with his recent moves. As well as upsetting the integral crew of whom many are said to be reaady to seek employment elsewhere should a solution not be found, there are suggestions that some of the WWE superstars are frustrated with royalties being held back in recent weeks.
All in all it is clear Vince McMahon is stuck in a catch 22 situation. The more he tries to stop the rot, the more he seems to put the WWE on the brink of crisis.
Wow.
The wrestling industry is just hurting all the way around.
I wish, I REALLY, really wish WWE and TNA would wake up already. The PG-era isn't working. No matter how much production value they put behind crappy wrestling, it's still crappy wrestling. No one wants to follow a product that is stale, predictable, and boring.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on August 04, 2014, 02:18:20 pm
Hogan is training for one more match against Cena:
Is this setting the table for Sting's return, too? Because Sting is still dropping hints about him appearing in the actual WWE, not just the video game.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on August 05, 2014, 11:32:36 pm
That dude will be 100, I'll 60, and I'll still get as excited as an 8 year old when he comes out. I'll be a Hulkamaniac forever.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on August 10, 2014, 10:59:54 pm
The latest additions to my wrestling collection. Some really good ones! The VHSes are better than the DVD on the Best of Raws, because the DVD release only collects the first 2 volumes! Those Best of Raws cover 1997-2001, pretty much the best era in WWF!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: spac316 on August 13, 2014, 06:29:56 pm
WWE Smackdown came by Seattle on Aug. 12th and I attended the event. I won't spoil anything but I bought the right ticket because I was three seats away from Roman Reigns' entrance! Here's the pic I snapped of that... Now to wait till Friday to see if I was caught on Camera.
And the belt is back where it should be. Roode is the best wrestler today, IMO, and no one deserves that belt more than him as far as I'm concerned. It's great to see a real champ again in wrestling! And damn what a great in-ring chemistry Roode and Lashley have in the ring, who he wrestled to earn that championship.
TNA may not have gotten a lot of things right lately, but this was a good move. Plus adding this extra layer with MVP is keeping it interesting. Let's hope that this refocus in the main-event division will trickle-down to the rest of TNA. (But to give them due, the tag-team division has really been heating up, too.)
He works better as a heel, though. I'm betting it won't be long before he turns into the old Bobby Roode.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 12, 2014, 12:06:14 pm
I'm REALLY enjoying the original stuff. Monday Nights Wars has been great. I already know a lot of it, but there are still little tidbits here and there that hadn't come out before. (Such as the fact that I never knew Bischoff had zero intention of hiring Luger back and gave him a lowball offer not expecting him to take it, only to have him take it.)
I really liked the Warrior documentary they released for Warrior week, too. But you could also tell it was put together quickly. It didn't touch on his WrestleMania 12 return like at all, which I completely missed the first time around so I would've liked to hear more. I also would've liked to see more of his World-Class career. I never knew he wrestled down there.
And the Rise and Fall of ECW was pretty enlightening for me. I know ECW came off on T.V. as a completely anarchic, chaotic organization. But I had always thought it was well-planned chaos masterminded by Heyman. Turns out the creative process was just as wild as the final product.
They may have hooked me, considering there's no more obligation period.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 18, 2014, 02:13:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OmxR9U5.jpg)
I just finished watching the Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes Rivalries episode on WWE Network. LOVE the documentary style of this show and Monday Night War. I always thought those type or releases were best WWE DVDs. So it's cool that they made some series on the Network with this style. They know how to make a good documentary.
I didn't realize how intense things got then. According to this special, these two guys are a big part of the reason we started seeing more emotionally-driven feuds culminating with high-impact, often violent clashes.
Really cool stuff.
So what were some of your favorite rivalries in wrestling?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on November 18, 2014, 03:12:28 pm
Are you talking full bore rivalries or just storyline feuds.
I was a big fan of the Ultimate Warrior back in the day. When him and The Undertaker feuded I was about 8-10 years old. The Warrior got locked in a damn coffin. That shit was real to me! Then, Jake The Snake "trained" the Warrior in the ways of darkness only to turn on him. Never Trust a Snake. I still think this is my favorite feud to this day.
Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter was awesome. It was right in the middle of the Gulf War. Slaughter was an amazing bad guy.
Of course all the nWo vs WCW stuff. That was an awesome time to be a fan. Then the nWo into 2 groups and it sucked.
As far as rivalries that lasted? Hell, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 18, 2014, 03:46:29 pm
Are you talking full bore rivalries or just storyline feuds.
I was a big fan of the Ultimate Warrior back in the day. When him and The Undertaker feuded I was about 8-10 years old. The Warrior got locked in a damn coffin. That shit was real to me! Then, Jake The Snake "trained" the Warrior in the ways of darkness only to turn on him. Never Trust a Snake. I still think this is my favorite feud to this day.
Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter was awesome. It was right in the middle of the Gulf War. Slaughter was an amazing bad guy.
Of course all the nWo vs WCW stuff. That was an awesome time to be a fan. Then the nWo into 2 groups and it sucked.
As far as rivalries that lasted? Hell, I have no idea.
Agreed and all awesome picks!
I'm particularly fond of Jake the Snake, Ultimate Warrior, and the nWo 3 of my all-time favorite things in wrestling. Despite all the problems Snake had, he sure knew how to work a crowd.
And I still have and wear an nWo shirt to this day.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 19, 2014, 05:00:09 pm
How freaking stupid! Half of America, including my area, doesn't get this on their cable package! They'd reach more people with syndication!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 24, 2014, 12:19:22 pm
WHAT?! DID YOU SEE THAT MAIN-EVENT?!!
That's what a damn main-event should be! That was one helluva match, followed by one helluva reveal! And it's about time Ziggler got his spot to shine.
Go watch at least the main-event of Survivor Series if you haven't seen it yet!
And the Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt match was pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on November 27, 2014, 11:50:04 pm
The end of the main event was pretty exciting but overall I thought it was just an ok ppv. Honestly though I have never been a big fan of Survivor Series.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: turf on November 28, 2014, 08:14:39 am
I don't watch wrestling these days, but I used to love the old school Survivor Series format. 4 or 8 teams of 4. If a dude was eliminated, he was done for the night. Whoever still has a team at the end of the night was the winner. It was awesome... in 1990.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 28, 2014, 11:27:55 am
I don't watch wrestling these days, but I used to love the old school Survivor Series format. 4 or 8 teams of 4. If a dude was eliminated, he was done for the night. Whoever still has a team at the end of the night was the winner. It was awesome... in 1990.
That tradition still endures. There were a few traditional SS matches at the PPV this year, including the main-event.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kr2nist on December 01, 2014, 08:52:08 am
So what were some of your favorite rivalries in wrestling?
As I've been a huge fan of wrestling ever since I was little, I've seen so many rivalries that it's not even funny. But some of my favorite rivalries include: Hulk Hogan vs. Andre The Giant, Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Mr. McMahon, Bobby Roode vs. James Storm, Michael Cole vs. Jerry "The King" Lawler, and WWE vs. WCW.
Now I realize some of my choices were mainly storyline-driven feuds, but that's the one thing I miss about the old school days of wrestling -- better quality storylines to go along with the in-ring action. Plus, not to mention how I also miss the days when WWE wasn't so PG-rated and kid-friendly. It's so squeaky clean anymore that it's practically nauseating.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kr2nist on December 01, 2014, 08:58:31 am
Seeing that this is a wrestling-dedicated thread, I thought I would contribute a masterpiece drawing of a hardcore icon legend..... (https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/229490_10150289801299552_6294575_n.jpg?oh=df98636a10500659b47db9d2ac611e47&oe=55108250)
(....and my god, I can't believe I drew this like ten years ago!....)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on December 01, 2014, 12:24:37 pm
So what were some of your favorite rivalries in wrestling?
As I've been a huge fan of wrestling ever since I was little, I've seen so many rivalries that it's not even funny. But some of my favorite rivalries include: Hulk Hogan vs. Andre The Giant, Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Mr. McMahon, Bobby Roode vs. James Storm, Michael Cole vs. Jerry "The King" Lawler, and WWE vs. WCW.
Now I realize some of my choices were mainly storyline-driven feuds, but that's the one thing I miss about the old school days of wrestling -- better quality storylines to go along with the in-ring action. Plus, not to mention how I also miss the days when WWE wasn't so PG-rated and kid-friendly. It's so squeaky clean anymore that it's practically nauseating.
Indeed. I think a big problem with that is that they have PPVs every single freaking month, and they treat the fans like they should forget everything that happened in the PPV period before, WHEN IT WAS ONLY A MONTH AGO!
Treat the fans with a little respect and put a little more effort and faith into the storylines, and we'd have a better modern product.
And great choice on Bobby Roode vs. James Storm. I wasn't even considering TNA when I thought up the question. Bobby Roode is probably the single best all-around wrestler in TNA or WWE.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kr2nist on December 01, 2014, 03:03:39 pm
Indeed. I think a big problem with that is that they have PPVs every single freaking month, and they treat the fans like they should forget everything that happened in the PPV period before, WHEN IT WAS ONLY A MONTH AGO!
Treat the fans with a little respect and put a little more effort and faith into the storylines, and we'd have a better modern product.
And great choice on Bobby Roode vs. James Storm. I wasn't even considering TNA when I thought up the question. Bobby Roode is probably the single best all-around wrestler in TNA or WWE.
Exactly. It was much MUCH nicer when the PPVs were more spread out, allowing there to be time for storyline build up leading up to the next PPV. But now it's gotten way out of hand and totally unnecessary....and predictable as hell. Like for instance, this year's Survivor Series PPV with the Bray Wyatt vs. Dean Ambrose match. It hadn't even been 24 hours since that PPV when it was already announced that those two will go at it again at TLC. Of course I wasn't surprised, but I can remember back in the day when their match would develop into a decent storyline - like say "Who's The Better Lunatic?" - and their feud would continue to fuel, until the decision was made later on to put their asses back in the ring at the next PPV. And now anymore it's like who won't be in the PPV.....*sigh*......
As much as I watch (or at least try to) pro wrestling, it isn't very often when I'm taken by surprise by something. This is why I chose the Bobby Roode vs. James Storm rivalry. Back when those two were still a team as Beer Money Inc., I honestly didn't see it coming when Bobby turned heel like he did....I even yelled "Daaaaaaaamn!" at the T.V. when he hit Storm with the beer bottle! Bobby is a rare gem among the TNA and WWE rosters, and I gotta admit he plays the bad guy part really well. But regardless whether he's heel or face, he's undoubtedly "The IT Factor".
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on December 02, 2014, 12:12:34 pm
^ Yep, that's when TNA was great!
Do you get Destination Channel on your cable network? That's where TNA is going starting the beginning of 2015. In December it's just gonna be "The Best of TNA" episodes, rather than real wrestling cards.
Unfortunately, to get Destination on my cable network, I have to order the super-deluxe 300+ channel package, which I'm not gonna do. My 100 channel package is good enough. And from what I read, only 52% of Americans have this on their cable package. I really hope TNA re-airs their Impacts online. Not only that, but Destination is giving them 3 time-slots, which equals 3 TNA shows a week! I'm really bummed I'm gonna miss that. I actually prefer TNA to WWE.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on December 02, 2014, 03:18:56 pm
Some of my favorite feuds have been: Bret vs Shawn Undertaker vs Kane Undertaker vs Mankind nWo vs WCW Sabu vs RVD Rock vs Austin
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kr2nist on December 03, 2014, 01:32:37 am
Do you get Destination Channel on your cable network? That's where TNA is going starting the beginning of 2015. In December it's just gonna be "The Best of TNA" episodes, rather than real wrestling cards.
So it IS true then that TNA is moving! I had seen something on Facebook recently about Destination Channel, but wasn't sure what that was all about. But nope, we don't have that channel...hell, I'm not even sure if our satellite service even carries it. I don't see why TNA wouldn't have their matches online, but that's just going to be weird with them leaving the Spike TV network...
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 12, 2015, 04:06:48 pm
Guess who's getting inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame this year?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 13, 2015, 01:38:28 am
Surprised its taken this long to do so lol
I've actually watched a ton of wrestling stuff lately, due to OSW reviews. Anyone else watch that? It's great getting all this detailed information and footage of classic and even newer wrestling and it's pretty funny a lot of the time. Nice seeing some of the classic stuff, though I want to see more more mid 90's to late 90's stuff show up as that I think was when I was more into things, playing the games on N64, stuff like that.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 13, 2015, 12:22:04 pm
There's a rumor that Mach was scamming on an underage Stephanie McMahon back in the day. That's why for years you never saw a Macho Man DVD or special, or WWE even mention him; supposedly. But unlike other wrestling "real drama", there's no backstory or shoot-interviews about it; like there is for the Montreal Screwjob or Fingerpoke of Doom. So it's hard to take the story at face value.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 15, 2015, 04:57:32 pm
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 16, 2015, 12:52:41 pm
If you want the Attitude Era to return, give me a "Hell yeah!"
WWE Possibly Returning to a TV-14 Rating: http://www.inquisitr.com/1759229/wwe-news-wwe-programming-heading-back-to-an-edgy-tv-14-rating-soon/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/1759229/wwe-news-wwe-programming-heading-back-to-an-edgy-tv-14-rating-soon/)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2015, 01:49:14 am
I haven't seriously watched wrestling in many years, mostly just clips and lately review show stuff from OSW reviews, but I went and watched Wrestling Kingdom 9, which is New Japan's event and holy crap is this is some good stuff. It's very different from the American wrestling going on, very much due to the cultural differences, where it seems like WWE fans are loud and noisy all the time, but in Japan, it's more of a buildup, the audience showing their respect for the guys until things start to really ramp up. Because of this, you get to hear some very nasty sounding hits and kicks and more in ring type of stuff.
Even what might be considered the worst in this show, seemed better than most stuff I've seen shown up over here in WWE. There's more focus on the actual wrestling and less of the badly acted bullshit soap opera stuff. Sure that kinda stuff can be kinda fun at times, but it doesn't matter if the wrestling matches suck and I don't really think it's been as good as the event and promo stuff of wrestling past from the late 80's into the 90's from the likes of Hogan, Savage, Jake the Snake, and others, but I am slightly biased since pre-2000 was more my era of wrestling lol
This match in particular was just awesome. This one really felt like it was playing up much more of the entertainment aspect, while still doing lots of great wrestling. The wrestler doing the pose and then knee to the face was mocking the guy who gets hit by using his style lol Lots of back and forth mockery that the crowd ate up. (http://38.media.tumblr.com/a18a48f64b218dc77536a593dd7f79e7/tumblr_nho9dtV0Tt1sbzhteo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: jcalder8 on January 25, 2015, 11:34:51 am
I haven't seriously watched wrestling in many years, mostly just clips and lately review show stuff from OSW reviews, but I went and watched Wrestling Kingdom 9, which is New Japan's event and holy crap is this is some good stuff. It's very different from the American wrestling going on, very much due to the cultural differences, where it seems like WWE fans are loud and noisy all the time, but in Japan, it's more of a buildup, the audience showing their respect for the guys until things start to really ramp up. Because of this, you get to hear some very nasty sounding hits and kicks and more in ring type of stuff.
Thanks for the tip about this. I am going to watch it now. Even better since it's in english :D
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 25, 2015, 04:42:16 pm
I haven't seriously watched wrestling in many years, mostly just clips and lately review show stuff from OSW reviews, but I went and watched Wrestling Kingdom 9, which is New Japan's event and holy crap is this is some good stuff. It's very different from the American wrestling going on, very much due to the cultural differences, where it seems like WWE fans are loud and noisy all the time, but in Japan, it's more of a buildup, the audience showing their respect for the guys until things start to really ramp up. Because of this, you get to hear some very nasty sounding hits and kicks and more in ring type of stuff.
Thanks for the tip about this. I am going to watch it now. Even better since it's in english :D
The english commentary was fairly good, though J.R. was abit of a mixed bag with his. Abit rambling at times and not as good as Striker who was much more on the ball with the wrestler names and moves.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on January 26, 2015, 01:10:58 pm
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 26, 2015, 02:43:19 pm
Did anyone here watch the recent Royal Rumble yesterday? All I've heard about it is that everyone is really upset at it, including the fans there in the audience lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: gio on March 01, 2015, 09:08:48 am
I'm looking forward to the New Japan Cup starting this week. I feel like Ibushi is gonna win, leading to Ibushi finally beating Nak at Invasion Attack.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 29, 2015, 05:23:02 am
Grabbed the WWE Network for the weekend, mostly for the Hall of Fame, but figured I'd go back, watch last years Hall of Fame (That Jake Roberts induction...wooo...intense, so was the Warriors), this years, and Wrestlemania tomorrow. Been awhile since I just watched something that wasn't connected to OSW Review. Good stuff with the Hall of Fame shows, reliving some of the stuff I use to enjoy in wrestling. Tears were aplenty. While I haven't watched anything fully in wrestling in many years, seeing this kind of stuff kinda pulls me back in. Watching that and Wrestling Kingdom earlier this year, it helps to pull me back in abit. Now I'm not expecting much out of Wrestlemania, I kinda know the problems it is going in with and the state of franchise right now, but maybe it'll be cool to catch a full Wrestlemania again.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: fighterpilot562 on March 29, 2015, 12:34:27 pm
2 guys from my gun forum are going tonight. They didn't even plan it, both just happen to be going lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 29, 2015, 07:09:13 pm
While I don't know the new guys too much, I totally like Daniel Bryan. He just has that great face attitude about him. Plus he has a great version of Ride of the Valkyrie for his intro that I like lol
lol Geez, NWO and DX showed up at the Sting vs Triple H fight. Reliving the 90's here lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 29, 2015, 11:33:07 pm
Well Wrestlemania 31 turned out to be far more entertaining than I expected. I haven't watched any new wrestling in years and only heard about some of the issues they've been having recently, so wasn't expecting much out of this. Turned out to be pretty fun.
-Completely missed the tag match and missed most of the Rumble, so won't say much there, but people were super bummed Mizdow didn't win the rumble lol I just barely know the Mizdow gimmick and I was wanting him to win lol
-Intercontinental ladder match had some great spots in it. I don't know Bryan all too well, but he's one of those face guys you just like. Love his "Yes" gimmick, love his intro song, turned out to be a solid match with lots of flying around. Probably one of the few newer guys I really like so far.
-Cena vs Rusov wasn't super exciting. I wasn't paying too much attention to it. I'm not even burnt out on Cena from watching him and I'm just not into it. Something about 'murrica and screw Russia, I don't know lol Seemed alright. To me it seemed very predictable who would win and I don't usually care about that kind of stuff.
-Orton vs Rollins had a pretty solid match. Not really into either of them, but seemed good enough as a match. No complaints.
-HHH vs Sting had some good moments in it, playing up the characters, and both doing well, but then turned into a 90's love fest when DX and the NWO showed up to raise some hell. The kid in me marked out at that lol "Oh my goodness, I know this is super gimmicky and these guys aren't wrestling, but I love it!"
-Undertaker vs Wyatt was just more nostalgic fun. There were some mostly great bumps and I love these two fantasy/creepy characters going at each other (Doesn't seem like you see this kind of stuff as much anymore), and though there were probably a few too many slow points, I didn't have a problem with it.
-Diva match...Eh. Watching clips of Alundra Blayze from the Hall of Fame last night and then watching these new girls wrestle today, I just can't put any attention to this stuff.
-Brock vs Reigns. This was gonna be the troublesome match from what I heard and man did it have some intense spots. Every single hit that Brock gave looked nasty. Super brutal (There's a reason Understaker had a concussion last year), and it turned into this match of...How do you keep Brock in his "beast" status and make it so Reigns doesn't look worse than he already does because everyone hates him? Well you do that by Rollins running down, cashing in his money in the bank, and taking the title for himself! I kinda hate matches that end like this, especially ones for the belt, but it made perfect sense and it was a hell of an upset after the brutal beating that went on.
Overall, it's been good getting back into wrestling somewhat. Watched the recent and last Hall of Fame last night and Wrestlemania tonight and kinda went back to some of the feelings I use to have with wrestling growing up in the 90's. I doubt WWE will continue to be this likable from their track record, but then again, I can always go see about giving New Japan a look. Wrestle Kingdom 9 earlier this year was awesome lol
*EDIT* Oh and I totally forgot about HHH's entrance for his match. It was both awful and awesome at the same time. It was so shameless and pathetic with its cross promotion to the new Terminator movie, but it was also ridiculous, it was hard to kinda not like. Just wow.
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Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on March 30, 2015, 12:28:27 am
My thoughts on WrestleMania:
Randy Orton and Seth Rollins had a solid match. Nothing show stealing, but a great way to set the mood for the night.
HHH vs. Sting was exciting as hell. HHH's entrance was ridiculous as all hell, but the match itself was awesome! Surprises and twists through-out. And who thought we'd see D-X vs. nWo happen?! Match of the night, for me! I completely marked out. Felt like it was 1998 and we were seeing the dream match we always wanted to see (I just ignored all the grey hair, lol). Too bad Sting lost. I was really, REALLY hoping to see him win in what will probably be his final match. Greatest of all-time in my book.
The Intercontinental Ladder match, pretty good. Not up there with The Hardyz/Edge & Christian/Dudleyz, but still lots of surprises. I really had hoped Dean Ambrose came out on top of that one. But the fans like Daniel Bryan for whatever reason.
John Cena vs. Rusev was a match made for WrestleMania. The build-up was excellent. The use of national pride was done right, without seeming too cheesy. And Rusev was built as a helluva strong heel. Something WWE has been lacking for a long time. And the match itself was a great back-and-forth battle that was worth of the build-up.
Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt delivered, too. Great match that pulled out all the stops. And dang does Undertaker know how to sell a move. I actually wondered for a minute if he did get a concussion again. He was also in great shape, better looking than he was last year, that's for sure.
And the main-event was surprisingly good. Damn good, aggressive, hard-hitting match. Exciting to the end with both men just getting the holy hell beaten out of them. And then that surprise ending! Awesome! I am SO setting my DVR to record Raw tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on March 30, 2015, 04:26:47 pm
Best line of the night, "Suplex city, bitch."
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 30, 2015, 05:30:08 pm
Those freaking suplex's. Reigns can't be feeling good after that match lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on March 31, 2015, 06:01:56 pm
So, that was an awesome Raw. Glad I tuned in. Didn't get to see Sting like I had hoped, but looks like I can see that on the WWE Network. There was lots of rehashing of last night's stuff, but that's too be expected the night after WrestleMania. The stuff in-between was great.
The Brock Lesnar part was awesome. Felt like an Attitude Era angle. This is why I'll be tuning into Raw again next week.
And John Cena vs. Dean Ambrose was a helluva match. I was so hoping Ambrose would walk away with that title. But still, I can't complain about the match itself.
This was also my first time seeing Neville from NXT. That was awesome. He reminded me of a young RVD, but even more frenetic in his movement.
I still hate Cody Rhodes, always have. I feel he's only there because of his family name. But I wanted to mention him because his new cape reminds me of Mr. Sinister from X-Men, anyone else?
And the "Waluigi is #1" sign from WrestleMania last night was back!
Most entertaining Raw I've seen in a while. I hope whoever is responsible for WrestleMania and tonight's Raw's writing gets a raise.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 31, 2015, 07:26:47 pm
Does Raw not go up on the network at all? I know it's on TV, but my DVR hasn't been working right lately and I actually missed watching it on TV. Kinda disappointed it's not up lol Not that I haven't gotten my money with watching the two Hall of Fames, Wrestlemania, and now watching the Macho Man documentary on it.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on March 31, 2015, 08:06:48 pm
Does Raw not go up on the network at all? I know it's on TV, but my DVR hasn't been working right lately and I actually missed watching it on TV. Kinda disappointed it's not up lol Not that I haven't gotten my money with watching the two Hall of Fames, Wrestlemania, and now watching the Macho Man documentary on it.
They do put it on the network, but you have to wait. I'm not sure how long.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 31, 2015, 08:13:01 pm
Does Raw not go up on the network at all? I know it's on TV, but my DVR hasn't been working right lately and I actually missed watching it on TV. Kinda disappointed it's not up lol Not that I haven't gotten my money with watching the two Hall of Fames, Wrestlemania, and now watching the Macho Man documentary on it.
They do put it on the network, but you have to wait. I'm not sure how long.
Oh I see it now, I believe they do it under "Raw Replays"? Sadly it looks like they do them a month out from showing. The last one on it goes back to February 23rd.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: tafk on March 31, 2015, 10:28:18 pm
Yeah I've heard the syndicated stuff is delayed by about a month because of network agreements for TV.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: ghostsweeper on April 01, 2015, 06:03:32 pm
New, new, new, new, NEW WORLD ORDER! f,f,f,f,f, FOR LIFE!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 02, 2015, 07:31:58 pm
Was kinda excited to hear that New Japan Pro Wrestling would be getting some english commentated episodes coming up as I really liked what I saw with Wrestling Kingdom 9. Sadly, AXS TV isn't a thing in my area. Oh well...
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 04, 2015, 05:21:34 pm
Checked out NXT for the first time. Seems fairly action packed with these younger guys in it. I'm disappointed that Rhino who is pushing saying "Gore" isn't using this as his theme lol
*EDIT* Also managed to watch the last Raw episode on a rerun and it had some fun moments. Starting to get to know the wrestlers again. Neville has some great moves, though I thought his match was too short, though kinda found the Alex guy for trying to push some rip off of Hulkamania lol Brock is just great, I loved his rampage and just how slimy a guy Rollins in. A good spot or two from the Lucha Dragons.
It's also hilarious that Rollins as a heel gets more love than Cena who is a heal that gets booed. Is this gonna do anything to Cena? I understand he's had some issues for awhile now, but when one of your lead good guys is getting booed like crazy, doesn't that warrant a change? I mean, wasn't that what happened with Hogan back in the day? I've been watching the Monday Night War documentary and it seemed to be people were getting tired of Hogan's act, so he went heel and got lots of hype off of it. Not that I see Cena going heel lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 05, 2015, 05:29:09 pm
FYI: The Axel guy is Curtis Axel. He's Curt Henning's (Mr. Perfect) son.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 05, 2015, 05:55:10 pm
FYI: The Axel guy is Curtis Axel. He's Curt Henning's (Mr. Perfect) son.
I really like finding out who's the daughter or son of some classic wrestler now lol The Uso's are Rikishi's kids, I believe Flair's daughter is in there, and I'm sure there are more. Axel should totally bring back the "Perfect" gimmick instead of doing the Hulkamania thing he's fooling around with lol
Side note, I love Rollin's entrance theme. Not much for a sorta djent sounding metal song, but that's a hell of a song when you want to get people freaking hyped up lol
The other one I like so far is Bryan's. Sure it's just Flight of the Valkyries metal, but it's a real upbeat feeling song which is perfect for Bryan to come out to and get those YES! chants going.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: fighterpilot562 on April 19, 2015, 02:12:36 pm
My friend gave me access to his WWE Network account. Currently watching smackdown 1999.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: ghostsweeper on April 20, 2015, 09:48:03 am
Last year it looked as though WWE was finally after 12+ yrs actually going in a good direction. Sadly for me, since that Royal Rumble, good points have been few n far between. The divas division is a joke. I recently watched an embarrassing match where kidd/cesaro jobbed to d.bryans lame kicks for 10mins. A Superman punch (small jumping punch), Meathook clothesline (sloooow crap looking lariat), AA (Standing firemans carry) are some of the crappest signature moves that im now sick of seeing. More than anything seeing the misuse of actual talent in favor of people who are not on the same level in terms of ringwork really sucks. TNA on the other hand have actually impressed me even though they still do stupid storyline changes far too frequently. The knockouts division is miles ahead of wwe though the current title holder is arguably the worse worker. An slightly improved roster in terms of numbers, the reinstatement of the TV title for the mid-card and it would be well on track.
Never thought Id say this few months ago but: TNA>WWE.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 20, 2015, 12:06:34 pm
Last year it looked as though WWE was finally after 12+ yrs actually going in a good direction. Sadly for me, since that Royal Rumble, good points have been few n far between. The divas division is a joke. I recently watched an embarrassing match where kidd/cesaro jobbed to d.bryans lame kicks for 10mins. A Superman punch (small jumping punch), Meathook clothesline (sloooow crap looking lariat), AA (Standing firemans carry) are some of the crappest signature moves that im now sick of seeing. More than anything seeing the misuse of actual talent in favor of people who are not on the same level in terms of ringwork really sucks. TNA on the other hand have actually impressed me even though they still do stupid storyline changes far too frequently. The knockouts division is miles ahead of wwe though the current title holder is arguably the worse worker. An slightly improved roster in terms of numbers, the reinstatement of the TV title for the mid-card and it would be well on track.
Never thought Id say this few months ago but: TNA>WWE.
Wish I could agree with you. But since TNA made the network move, I haven't been able to see it. And I've always preferred TNA. It doesn't insult your intelligence and treat you like a child, like WWE loves to do. TNA knows adults watch wrestling, and gives you an adult wrestling program.
But now that they're on Destination Channel, I'd have to order my cable's ultra-deluxe package with ESPN-4 to get it, and I'm not doing that. I already pay nearly $100 for my cable package + DVR set-up for two rooms.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2015, 03:42:42 pm
The Divas really need to be just wiped clean from what I can tell. I kinda like Paige, but that's about it. It's just all kinds of awful. I'll forgive a slip up here and there in a match, but it's like every single time, with just bad looking moves. Sometimes they take an alright bump, but man it's bad in comparison to what I use to watch back in the Attitude Era. Not that there weren't problems back then also, but eh...None of them really look like they can fight which is a bigger issue to me. Not saying we need a bunch of Chyna's exactly, but where's the woman that you just look at and go "Man, that's an asskicker right there". All the current diva wrestlers just look like some sorority girls dressing up and running around a ring. I of course know why they are there, but a diva can be both attractive and a solid wrestler lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: ghostsweeper on April 20, 2015, 04:40:49 pm
I started watching WWF (f**k you Wildlife Fund) ;) in the early 90's, renting the old VHS tapes from the local video store. Got hooked and from there I just never stopped. Never had Sky growing up so had to make do with watching WCW on Central TV, seeing the likes of 2 Cold Scorpio & Marcus Alexander Bagwell, Johnny B.Badd, Big Van Vader etc. WWF stuff I had to rent or buy the VHS's. Gotta say from 95' to 99' this WAS the Golden Age for me. Great stuff every week, on both shows guaranteed. I was also one of those that although WWF was admittedly my fave, I loved watching Nitro and Thunder because the roster was so deep, the matches felt different and I (still do) dig the camera work panning around throughout the entrances. Almost cried during Vince McMahons simulcast during the last night of WCW. Even on that last show they still all performed with dignity and class, it truly was a Night of Champions. Stopped watching WWF about late 2001 once the Rocks 'SmackDown' catchphase became a show name and they got rid of the Attitude sets in favor of a more lame bright nightclub effect. Also screwed up the Invasion angle, pissed around with talent, pushed Cena instantly, made separate brands with general managers etc... didn't appeal to me at all. Watched TNA from the start and it felt brilliant but then that went downhill after Jarrett left the show and Hogan/Carter started messing around. Started watching TNA and WWE again for about 2 yrs now and that's that. Got plenty of 'homemade' WCW and those legit WWE Tagged Classic dvds to keep me going too.
Here in the UK I get to watch TNA on Challenge TV. Damn man, you know since they moved network they've really picked it up. Not quite WCW standard but it's so much more enjoyable than WWE and retains a cool indie-feel.
Yeah the whole Monday Night Wars era was the best period in pro wrestling. It's bad that wrestling has actually regressed into such soap opera's now with extended time for more bull on the mic. That South Park episode parodies modern wrestling and WWE in-particular, quite accurately. I don't hate WWE, don't wanna appear that way, but sometimes it does appear quite condescending in terms of presentation, ringwork and direction.
Yes Paige is decent. Her and Natalya are the only believable & realistic title holders. The rest are dreadful. Could not lace the boots of the likes of Madusa/Alundra Blayze, Luna Vachon, Bull Nakano, Akira Hokuto etc.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2015, 04:55:01 pm
Very much the same exact situation, renting late 80's and early 90's tapes at the video store, watched until probably 2000, and then just faded off. Back into it now and there are things I'm enjoying, I thought Wrestlemania was fun, but they have a lot of work to do to make things better. The Roman Reigns push isn't great, the Divas we've talked about, and they keep just pushing the failed gimmicks like New Day lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: fighterpilot562 on April 20, 2015, 05:06:39 pm
I cant watch modern WWE, My friend told me what they did with Kane. a damn shame. He will also be masked/scared kane in my heart
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2015, 05:15:00 pm
I cant watch modern WWE, My friend told me what they did with Kane. a damn shame. He will also be masked/scared kane in my heart
I think he's going back to the mask soon. Was a weird direction to take him, but it'll be nice for him to pull it back out.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 21, 2015, 06:41:16 pm
I don't hate John Cena like some do, then again I haven't had to put up with him for the past 10 years, but I think what annoys me about Cena is that he's a walking merchandise table lol Nothing wrong with a shirt or wearing your logo, Hogan back in the day was very prominently wearing "Hulkamania" on him, and others like Austin had "Austin 3:16" branded on stuff he wore, but with Cena, it always seems overkill, especially when he pulls out his little branded sweat rag lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on April 22, 2015, 01:05:27 am
I hate John Cena. He represents everything that's been wrong with the WWE since the PG-era started.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 22, 2015, 01:57:10 am
I hate John Cena. He represents everything that's been wrong with the WWE since the PG-era started.
Does seem like he's been at this point of either needing to retire, at least for awhile, or to have a big change. It's crazy that everywhere he goes, there are just nothing but "John Cena Sucks" chants lol When more people are willing to cheer on Rusev, the American hating heel, something isn't right. I know I want Rusev to win at Extreme Rules this weekend lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: weirdfeline on April 28, 2015, 11:36:49 pm
It looks like Daniel Bryan is going to be forced to retire. I just started watching wrestling last year around the time CM Punk left and Daniel Bryan quickly became my favorite. It's kind of sad that he just came back from injury and now he's injured again. Jeff Hardy is apparently injured now as well. I mainly watch WWE but I watch TNA sometimes to see Jeff Hardy.
This is my first post on this forum and I feel like such a downer.. well, at least Neville is a really fun to watch new talent!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 29, 2015, 01:48:01 am
It looks like Daniel Bryan is going to be forced to retire. I just started watching wrestling last year around the time CM Punk left and Daniel Bryan quickly became my favorite. It's kind of sad that he just came back from injury and now he's injured again. Jeff Hardy is apparently injured now as well. I mainly watch WWE but I watch TNA sometimes to see Jeff Hardy.
This is my first post on this forum and I feel like such a downer.. well, at least Neville is a really fun to watch new talent!
Damn, is it really that bad for Bryan? I'm new to him after starting back into wrestling with the last Wrestlemania and I was really totally liking him, but hearing him being unfit to do any wrestling and now this, it just really sucks. Such a short WWE career if he has to retire, though I understand he's been doing wrestling in various places over a decade now.
Neville is a cool newer guy though, I definitely agree there. Gotta work on his persona abit more, but he's got some real skills. He's got a ton of push behind him, but unlike some other folks who were failing their push, like Reigns (Who I feel is coming back abit more lately from what I heard of him before Wrestlemania), he's gets the ups and downs while being very likable. Hopefully he can become someone big. He totally needs to win King of the Ring, though he probably won't simply because he's too new. Can't rush his hype too fast lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: weirdfeline on April 30, 2015, 11:04:01 pm
It looks like Daniel Bryan is going to be forced to retire. I just started watching wrestling last year around the time CM Punk left and Daniel Bryan quickly became my favorite. It's kind of sad that he just came back from injury and now he's injured again. Jeff Hardy is apparently injured now as well. I mainly watch WWE but I watch TNA sometimes to see Jeff Hardy.
This is my first post on this forum and I feel like such a downer.. well, at least Neville is a really fun to watch new talent!
Damn, is it really that bad for Bryan? I'm new to him after starting back into wrestling with the last Wrestlemania and I was really totally liking him, but hearing him being unfit to do any wrestling and now this, it just really sucks. Such a short WWE career if he has to retire, though I understand he's been doing wrestling in various places over a decade now.
Neville is a cool newer guy though, I definitely agree there. Gotta work on his persona abit more, but he's got some real skills. He's got a ton of push behind him, but unlike some other folks who were failing their push, like Reigns (Who I feel is coming back abit more lately from what I heard of him before Wrestlemania), he's gets the ups and downs while being very likable. Hopefully he can become someone big. He totally needs to win King of the Ring, though he probably won't simply because he's too new. Can't rush his hype too fast lol
Yeah, Daniel Bryan was supposed to defend the Intercontinental Championship against Bad News Barrett at Extreme Rules but the day of the show they announced Daniel Bryan won't be having the match. He wasn't on RAW the next night either. He has definitely made a mark on WWE though by holding every championship title.. except the WWE Divas Championship of course.
Yeah I didn't expect Neville to win King of the Ring but he definitely put on two great matches when he was a contender. I don't really have a strong opinion on Roman Reigns but I really hope he doesn't win the title at Payback. Seth Rollins should keep it for at least one more PPV.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 01, 2015, 12:27:13 am
I love Seth Rollins as this douche heel champion. The next one after Payback would probably be good, definitely don't want it to be Reigns yet, but I'm curious where Lesnar will come back into play. He was suspended in story and hasn't shown up at all since Raw after Wrestlemania. He's the only missing part of the Wrestlemania shenanigans that should probably come into play. My guesstimation, is that Rollins somehow wins at Payback, which takes out Reigns and Orton from the running, which then makes the match come down to Lesnar vs Rollins? Could be completely wrong on that though.
I'm also anticipating the return of Masked Kane. They are building up to his leaving the Authority, maybe him ruining Rollins keeping of the belt as his last move, since they talk about how it was him that got him the chance at the belt in the first place.
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Post by: weirdfeline on May 01, 2015, 02:31:23 pm
I love Seth Rollins as this douche heel champion. The next one after Payback would probably be good, definitely don't want it to be Reigns yet, but I'm curious where Lesnar will come back into play. He was suspended in story and hasn't shown up at all since Raw after Wrestlemania. He's the only missing part of the Wrestlemania shenanigans that should probably come into play. My guesstimation, is that Rollins somehow wins at Payback, which takes out Reigns and Orton from the running, which then makes the match come down to Lesnar vs Rollins? Could be completely wrong on that though.
I'm also anticipating the return of Masked Kane. They are building up to his leaving the Authority, maybe him ruining Rollins keeping of the belt as his last move, since they talk about how it was him that got him the chance at the belt in the first place.
I could see someone winning the Money in the Bank briefcase and cashing in soon after and winning but I'm not sure who that would be. Probably who ever will feud with Brock Lesnar. Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure Brock Lesnar will return SummerSlam since that's the second largest PPV.
I kind of actually like Corporate Kane because I enjoy his mic skills. I just think the character is kind of boring, I would like to see him without his mask but in a different role just so he can keep talking. Maybe as GM of RAW? I don't even know who the current one is if there even is one.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 07, 2015, 05:39:28 pm
NXT really does seem to have a better handle with using their women in the matches. In WWE, I literally groan with every interaction of the Divas I've seen since getting back to watching since Wrestlemania. It's painful. Almost none of the women seem to have any real athleticism to them. Lots of botched moves and boring angles. Only interesting thing that happened so far was the thing with Naomi being a real heel and wearing glowing shoes or the funny little angle of Lana getting fan fupport at shows and making Rusev pissed off, but she's not even a wrestler lol
Charlotte is one of the few I've seen who actually feels like a proper wrestler to me. She's tall, noticeably athletic, and she has that Flair history she's pushing. She takes some serious bumps too and sells it well. I'm trying to watch more NXT, it's just harder with the smaller audience making the shows feel abit empty in comparison to like Raw or Smackdown for obvious reasons.
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Post by: burningdoom on May 07, 2015, 08:51:23 pm
Tony Schiavone could make any match sound like the most exciting event in the history of mankind. And Bobby Heenan, was Bobby Heenan; always entertaining.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2015, 04:07:38 am
So is it just an inevitability that Cena is gonna beat Rusev at Payback? From what I've heard from before Wrestlemania, Rusev was set up as this unstoppable Russian beast, and that Cena beating him was a big deal. But just what is the outcome of this if Cena wins? If Wrestlemania didn't get him back over and beloved by people, what is a smaller PPV such as Payback gonna do after Cena already beating him twice before? It'll just bury Russev further, Cena is a winner, and then I guess soon after Cena just loses it to someone else and that's that. It's that obvious right? With Russev emotionally abusing Lana, she has to end up doing something that causes Cena to win. I think it's pretty obvious that other than the most hardcore fans and kids, people are tired of him.
I know I haven't been in the scene for a long time, but is it unthinkable that Rusev wins, Cena takes that loss seriously and leaves for awhile, hoping that he can come back as this humbled ex-champion looking for redemption in the ring later on with abit of a refresh on him? Maybe something that doesn't have him looking like a walking merchandise table? lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 12, 2015, 01:44:03 am
Bummer. It's official that Bryan is out for an undetermined amount of time and he came out to relinquish the belt. It must be really hard for him as he lost his belt last year apparently to injuries also.
And just as I was getting tired of the lame "Axelmania" gimmick, they somehow saved it with him fighting "Macho Mandow" and what is basically recreating the "Mega Powers" of the classic days lol It's dumb and goofy, but I can get behind that. Sandow needs to come out in full Macho Man outfitting at Payback this weekend lol
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Post by: weirdfeline on May 12, 2015, 07:37:03 am
Bummer. It's official that Bryan is out for an undetermined amount of time and he came out to relinquish the belt. It must be really hard for him as he lost his belt last year apparently to injuries also.
And just as I was getting tired of the lame "Axelmania" gimmick, they somehow saved it with him fighting "Macho Mandow" and what is basically recreating the "Mega Powers" of the classic days lol It's dumb and goofy, but I can get behind that. Sandow needs to come out in full Macho Man outfitting at Payback this weekend lol
Yeah this is exactly what happened with him last year. I feel like WWE will force him to retire so it doesn't hurt their image by making him perform.
I'm kinda disappointed that Damien Sandow is back to gimmicks. It was only like two weeks ago where he returned as Damien Sandow and was talking about his career and now he's already done being himself and went back to the gimmicks. Kinda lame. https://youtu.be/txcrsgw_xlY
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 12, 2015, 12:16:48 pm
WHO THE HELL IS EDITING MY POSTS?!!!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 12, 2015, 04:09:16 pm
I'm kinda disappointed that Damien Sandow is back to gimmicks. It was only like two weeks ago where he returned as Damien Sandow and was talking about his career and now he's already done being himself and went back to the gimmicks. Kinda lame. https://youtu.be/txcrsgw_xlY
Yeah I agree. I'm hoping it's just a one off thing for Payback, cause I feel the joke got funny for a moment here, but it can't last. It needs to be dropped like the second Payback ends lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 25, 2015, 08:41:13 pm
So I've been watching some early 90s WCW stuff on YouTube. WCW Power Hour and WCW Main Event. This was before I really knew about WCW. At this time, the only wrestling I even knew existed as a kid was WWF. So I've never seen any of it. But I really wish I could see this stuff in better quality. Too blurry.
Some great wrestling matches mixed in with some pretty dang ridiculous stuff. I wanted to share one of those ridiculous things I that made me speechless: The Minotaur. They tried to push this guy as an actual half-man/half-beast. I didn't see a match, just a promo. Apparently I would've had to tune in next week on WCW Saturday Night to see him in action for the first time (which I can't find barely any full WCW Saturday Night episodes on YouTube before 1997).
And I wanted to share a pic of a young Marcus Bagwell, better known to wrestling fans as Buff Bagwell. Hilarious haircut!
Seeing Stunning Steve Austin was great, too. He was more of a high-flyer back then. T.V. Champ in this era that I'm watching. Saw a young Harlem Heat (with different individual names, too, Booker T was Coal and I didn't catch Stevie Ray's name), the Steiners were being talked about through an entire episode, they were a great new tag-team set to face Ricky Morton and Barry Windham for the NWA Tag Team Championships (which were separate from the WCW Tag Team Championship which the Hollywood Blondes held (Austin & Brian Pillman)). And I saw an early Diamond Dallas Page match! This is when he was with Vinnie Vegas (Kevin Nash), but he was nowhere to be seen. And Cactus Jack (Mick Foley) had a squash match against some nobody.
Great stuff! It was a lot of fun seeing these guys earlier in their careers. And Jim Ross doing his J.R. thing, but younger.
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Post by: foxhack on July 31, 2015, 07:36:52 pm
;_;7
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Post by: burningdoom on July 31, 2015, 07:55:58 pm
I just heard.
R.I.P. Hot Rod. EASILY one of the greatest to ever lace-up a pair of boots or hold a mic.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 23, 2015, 11:31:16 pm
Geez, what a botch at Superslam. There were some good matches and spots, but holy crap did they screw over the Cena/Rollins match and the Brock/Undertaker match. At least the win in the Cena/Rollins match was good, I think it was right. Lesnar/Undertaker went from a match I was enjoying to being a win by an annoying mishap. I don't mind shenanigans in a match if the shenanigans are fun. This wasn't.
WWE Creative showing how uncreative they really are as there were a lot more better options they could've done. I was loving the rumors of Kane showing up to interfere, reuniting the B.O.D., but nope...Lameness.
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Post by: doafan on August 24, 2015, 07:03:04 pm
Saw the event live with my wife and only because she is a huge fan of Cena, kinda disappointed that this match was even before the one of the divas but am very happy with the results, Seth Rollins did his homework and gave us a decent and entertained fight in my personal opinion John Stewart had nothing to do here, his appearance was unnecessary but what the hell am gonna love to see Rollins with both titles for a while, the battle between Kevin Owens and Cesaro in my opinion was pretty good (Kevin kinda remind me Michael B. the Game Genie (https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelBtheGameGenie)) my wife totally hate him cause he kicked Cena's butt some times, this mothafucka had a ladder match at NXT this past week where he totally lost but am glad that he was able to be at Summer Slam too about the main event Taker vs Lesnar what can I said, totally in love with the result, no matter how but the dead man has choose a side and it's not the one of the good guys ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/ww9OM52.jpg)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 24, 2015, 07:52:21 pm
I had no real issue with Undertaker cheating, he's the Deadman, screw the rules, but I thought it was just kinda lame by using timekeeper shenanigans to give him the opening. It could've been ANYTHING else to do it. My favorite rumor was that Kane was going to show up and cause a distraction or help work on Lesnar and I think it would've been amazing had Kane come out, caused a distraction, which then Undertaker would use to knock out Lesnar. Lesnar flipping the bird at Taker before he passed out was amazing.
(http://i.imgur.com/aasnxJX.png)
Same for the Cena/Rollins match. I don't particularly love Cena, I think he's too stiff, his performance too noticeable, but Rollins nailed and it worked well enough. Stewart coming out made no damned sense, especially when the whole time he was talking about being pissed at Lesnar, so Stewart should've been the distraction during that match, not in the one with Cena/ Rollins. What sold me on the match mostly was that great stomp Rollins did with Cena hanging off the turnbuckle. It looked awesome lol
Owens and Cesaro was pretty great, though I have to wonder, why does Cesaro do the big swing? I don't get why he does it, since it only made sense in his tag match with Tyson, so that Tyson can do the drop kick on the spinning guy lol
As much as I want to see Rollins lose his belt to someone, him getting both belts now is gonna be amazing. The ego level is going to hit incredible new heights, to the point that I'm actually gonna watch Raw live to see it, rather than waiting to watch it on DVR later lol
I just hope that Undertaker didn't get messed up in the fight with Lesnar again like he did at Wrestlemania. There's video of him kinda collapsing and crawling back behind the exit just after the match.
*EDIT* Nevermind, they bring up the collapse at the end on Raw, so it wasn't anything serious, just more material for them to use lol
And suddenly, The Dudley Boyz are back after being gone from WWE for 10 years! That's quite the shake up for the tag team groups I would think. I know I was getting tired of the same groups just rotating around. I know its been awhile since I've seen a table used like this lol
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Post by: doafan on August 24, 2015, 09:29:08 pm
I guess am gonna totally miss Raw cause I don't have that channel, so please post your comments about it will try to find a copy of it cause I really want to show my wife that Cena no longer has the belt, she became mad every time that I told her that his no longer the champ and am pretty 100% sure that Cena will talk trash about the event and how he lost the WWE United States Championship :P
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 24, 2015, 10:00:13 pm
I guess am gonna totally miss Raw cause I don't have that channel, so please post your comments about it will try to find a copy of it cause I really want to show my wife that Cena no longer has the belt, she became mad every time that I told her that his no longer the champ and am pretty 100% sure that Cena will talk trash about the event and how he lost the WWE United States Championship :P
Haven't seen anything Cena yet, though I'm guessing something will happen when they unveil the Rollins statue. It was like when Rollins gave that expensive car to J&J Security, you just knew something was gonna happen lol
LOL Stewart comes out to a general mixture of boo's, but also "Thank You, Stewart" chants. Okay, I like Stewarts reason for doing it. He did it so Flair's record wasn't beat AND SUDDENLY RIC FLAIR SHOWS UP! It does make for a kind of weak finale, but that is some good reasoning. Flair is just trying to play it off to Cena though, pass the torch kind of thing. And here comes the no longer champ, Cena..beltless...shilling his little towels. His wee towels are all he has now, poor fella. Cena isn't completely against it, playing the good guy, but now he's playing the worst scenario situation "Rollins has both belts, do you understand what this means?!" And Stewart gets an AA for his troubles lol
At the statue unveiling...Sting was hidden underneath instead, wanting a shot at the title? I don't know how to feel about this lol
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Post by: burningdoom on August 25, 2015, 12:44:19 pm
Damn, that was a Raw! I kind of feel sorry for the people that ordered the PPV, because everything cool happened the next night! Lesnar, Sting, the Dudleys, Rollins. All of it, GREAT!
The only problem I see is that The Dudleys already steamrolled over the tag-champs, and there's no one else in WWE's tag-team division today that even comes close to The Dudleys level.
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Post by: doafan on August 25, 2015, 01:05:13 pm
Damn, that was a Raw! I kind of feel sorry for the people that ordered the PPV, because everything cool happened the next night! Lesnar, Sting, the Dudleys, Rollins. All of it, GREAT!
Wow it seems that missed a lot, am glad that I have the Fox channels pack, can have access to all the PPV events from the WWE and only have to pay less than 10 bucks for month, used to paid for event but that was more expensive.
The only problem I see is that The Dudleys already steamrolled over the tag-champs, and there's no one else in WWE's tag-team division today that even comes close to The Dudleys level.
Because of you am downloading this WWE RAW 2015 08 24 HDTV, need to see it by myself about the tag teams it's a damn shame that Edge and Christian also Matt and Hardy are no longer in the company, hope that we can see at least the first two, saw that they are gonna make an appearance in a WWE show, the only ones that can kick all tag butts are no longer with us, am talking about Eddie's and Benoit :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 27, 2015, 09:57:30 pm
Kinda random, but I'm certainly not alone in thinking that John Cena might have one of the worst looking submission moves right now, right? He just sorta grabs them around the face, but it never looks like there's any pressure being made or even locked in all that tight. It's supposed to finish off someone, but a sleeper hold headlock looks more intimidating than this move lol A straight comparison of one being done better is the Accolade by Rusev. That's under the chin, body being bent, I've had that done on me as a kid and I know that realistically can hurt.
All the more reason I'm glad Cena lost the belt. I'm sure the story now is him going to win it back or the main belt or something, but I'm mostly just kinda hoping it kinda maneuvers him into just a regular wrestler slot for abit while more entertaining people go on to do things.
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Post by: burningdoom on September 03, 2015, 01:20:08 pm
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Post by: doafan on September 21, 2015, 08:15:21 pm
Saw the Night of Champions event this past Sunday where I do have to say that there were some good old memories here: * Owne's has finally won his first belt in the company, the match in my opinion was good enough even when he cheated at the last moments of the match and maybe am saying this because this man is one of my favorites wrestlers right now, this is one of the few people that I do follow at Twitter hes kinda cool father and I do respect that a lot. * The Dudley Boys match was epic but it was a damn shame that they didn't win but at least there was a table, for a moment I was expecting to see Spike too but anyway am very happy to see them again on the WWE, used to follow this badass team at TNA but after seeing them kinda felt bad for not seeing Edge and Christian also Matt and Jeff since this three teams were so awesome. * The match of Dolph Ziggler was at least in my opinion not the big deal since there was a lot of mistakes from this wrestler and they even show these mistakes at the repetition of the match but it's always nice to see Lana without a doubt the winner of this one was her shoe, damn am kinda perv. * The divas match well what can I say its always nice to see some females action and besides of all am glad that Nikki Bella has finally lose the belt also Rick Flair without a doubt was a nice couch and after all the pain that Charlotte received the last move leaved me speechless, also the boobs of course. * About the fight of the family Wyatt! well never expected to see Y2J back in action, in fact I was expecting deep in my heart to see Seth Rollins helping his old team but don't get the wrong idea, Jericho was a nice addition even when he is a little fatty and well about the result of the match I do hope that he can start some fights with Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns. * About the Cena / Rollins fight it's was pure lame that the first one have won again the USA title even when all the people was having big expectations about Seth, Cena was doing the same moves over an over, Rollins practically took the show. * Sting / Rollins well this was so fucking unexpected but it was true that you can stop time, practically this one was an important factor for the victory of Seth at the end got the feeling that he was about to loose the title with the Money in the Bank, about Kane well I didn't knew that he wasn't at WWE.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 21, 2015, 09:24:40 pm
It was overall not too bad of an event, not great, but alright. Nice for Owens to get a belt, even though it was pretty rushed as it was just sorta him coming out to smacktalk Ryback out of nowhere, and then he's winning it. I'm good with it, even with being alright with Ryback, but Owens is much better.
The Ziggler/Lana/Rusev/Ray thing just needs to stop lol It's awful. Rusev needs to drop it all and go back to being a strong fighter. I always hated storylines like this.
The divas stuff is still pretty underwhelming. I watched the last NXT match with Sasha and whats her name for the title and they are far better than those in WWE. I think matches are held back by lame wrestlers like the Bellas. I'm hoping now that Nicky doesn't have the belt, the team angle will be done away with, cause man is that awful, and then get back to proper feuds and better match variety. Not that it'll change much. The "revolution" thing is kinda bogus lol
Cena winning was expected, but Rollins continues to be a great heel. Two matches right in a row, and the Sting stuff turned out alright. Was glad he kept it and that Kane came in to stop Sheamus. I know some of the long term guys don't like seeing all the oldies around, but being that I didn't watch for the past decade, I'm happy with Kane around, especially masked Kane, even though him having hair attached to the mask is abit strange. I was kinda hoping he was gonna show up at the last event with Undertaker and Lesner. No chance of him intervening in the next match with them since it's a cage match, but I'm curious to see what his part will be in the story now that he's gone back to being the "Demon" and no longer Corporate Kane and his reasoning for doing so being gone for so long.
I'm sure we'll find out tonight on Raw which I got on DVR.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 25, 2015, 11:01:28 pm
Heck of a battle with Lesnar and Undertaker at Hell in a Cell. Both of them sprung a blood geyser and I loved the idea of them tearing up the stage to expose the wood below. I don't believe I've seen that before or at least any time in recent history. Lots of intense, nasty, looking attacks, both looked destroyed which is the only time being "gassed" makes sense lol Curious where things are going now after that ending though. The Undertaker/Lesnar feud is over, but the next bit of story involving Undertaker and Wyatt is sort of out of the blue, but nice that they are finally looking to do something after the last time they fought like a year ago lol
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Post by: doafan on October 27, 2015, 10:28:37 am
Wasn't able to post my impressions about the event cause I took the day off yesterday so lets begin.
* Alberto del Rio was a big surprise since he spoke some bad things about is retirement and the management when he was part of WWE months ago, didn't saw his performance when he entered this company but have to admit that this fight was good enough for me, every guy that can kicks Cena's ass have my respects, kinda ironic that a Mexican has now the US Championship. * The best fight without a doubt was the one of Reigns and Wyatt, this two finally have settle up a complete match alone, was expecting to see Dean Ambrose or some of Wyatt's friends outside the cell, not to help them but to give them some external support but this doesn't mean that the match was bad, damn when I saw the kendo sticks did remember The Sandaman from the ECW, miss this guy. * WWE Tag Team Championship Match what can I say the Dudley's deserved to win this one, I was yelling like when I was 15 cause these dudes were part of my childhood so they got all my support anyway gotta love what the referee did was expecting to see a disqualification because that was part of the cheat and steal tactics from Eddie Guerrero, really can't wait to see them with the belts. * About the Charlotte vs Bella fight I didn't saw this fight, took that time to shave, why ? cause I'm not a big fan of the divas, at least not the new ones I was a big fan when China, Lita, Trish, Stacy, Mickie James or even Candice Michelle were part of them, these ones doesn't convince me. * Rollins vs Kane well this is another match that I did see at least not complete, really don't know about the deal with these two and really don't care, was expecting to see another match between Cena and Seth after all he still has the chance to claim for the belt well I guess so, haven't seen RAW or Smackdown lately so am not quite sure if this already happened. * Was disappointed with the performance of Goldberg I mean Rayback, for a moment expected to see a new Intercontinental Champion but don't get the wrong idea, Kevin Owens is one of my top 5 wrestlers right now, love his career even when some months ago I didn't knew about his existence until I saw a match between him and Matt Hardy at ROH, am glad that he still remain as a champ. * Undertaker vs Lesner: what can I say, already read that a lot of people loved this match, am sad to say that I don't share this emotion, the dead man is old and time is something that nobody can beat and this was part of the results of his fight, do not get the wrong idea but this is exactly the same situation that we saw at the last WWE event at the fight between Sting and Rollins when a doctor had to enter the ring to see his condition, loved the way that all the people give support and am intrigued about the appearence of Wyatt, for a moment was expecting that these dudes kinda give the Taker some tribute.
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Post by: weirdfeline on November 01, 2015, 09:11:35 am
I've been tuning in to RAW less and less. It's way easier to just catch the highlights on their YouTube channel. I would like to start seeing some development of the low mid card guys like Zack Ryder, Heath Slater, Damien Sandow, etc. What is Kane doing in a title match for the WHC in 2015?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 01, 2015, 05:04:52 pm
I sorta catch Raw when I can cause I DVR it and it's good to have playing when I'm doing my perler bead projects, but I'm not intently watching it and completely stopped watching smackdown cause no point. I also wish they would have some more guys start getting used for Raw like Sandow also. I don't think I've seen him since he was doing that mostly awful Macho Man/Hogan bit that they had to abandon because Hogan no longer exists lol
At least Tyler Breeze is showing up on the main show for something different. Also is anyone else getting tired of all the multi-tag team matches and 3 vs 3 stuff? Everything with New Day is gold now, but it gets kinda repetitive having the same people tag up all the time, especially when there isn't a very big group of tag teams on Raw. Even less after Tyson Kidd apparently got injured and disappeared a few months back so Cesaro is having to tag with others. It just means we see more Cena showing up in these tag events and I want none of that lol
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Post by: weirdfeline on November 03, 2015, 08:36:35 pm
The only thing I currently find interesting is this Alberto Del Rio/Zeb Colter partnership.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 03, 2015, 11:33:58 pm
The only thing I currently find interesting is this Alberto Del Rio/Zeb Colter partnership.
They were a thing before I got back into watching wrestling earlier this year, so I don't know exactly what they were like, but I guess from what I understand is that Colter's schtick is kinda the "'Murrica" parody, which of course would make the Mexican Del Rio an enemy, but I'm kinda liking their shtick of America and Mexico joining together and Del Rio is a pretty solid wrestler. I'll take anything that gets me to see less Cena I think lol
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Post by: weirdfeline on November 05, 2015, 03:26:58 pm
WOW! Seth Rollins ****** his knee up badly and is gonna be out for NINE months, they stripped him of the title already.
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Post by: doafan on November 05, 2015, 07:14:34 pm
WOW! Seth Rollins ****** his knee up badly and is gonna be out for NINE months, they stripped him of the title already.
Just wondering who is gonna be the new champ and most of all in which event they will decide who will be the new owner of this one, don't want to see Cena again with it and do really hope that they give Reigns a chance for the title ;)
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Post by: burningdoom on November 05, 2015, 07:27:44 pm
WOW! Seth Rollins ****** his knee up badly and is gonna be out for NINE months, they stripped him of the title already.
Just wondering who is gonna be the new champ and most of all in which event they will decide who will be the new owner of this one, don't want to see Cena again with it and do really hope that they give Reigns a chance for the title ;)
For once, we have a guarantee that it won't be Cena since he has a new reality show he's the star of that he's filming, and is taking time off for it.
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Post by: doafan on November 05, 2015, 07:40:03 pm
For once, we have a guarantee that it won't be Cena since he has a new reality show he's the star of that he's filming, and is taking time off for it.
Sir you have just done my day, that's the best new that I have heard in all day.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 05, 2015, 07:52:19 pm
Looks like the upcoming survivor series will have an event to declare the new champion. Really sucks to see this happen to Rollins. He's a great wrestler and a top notch heel champion. Also, damn Seth is a worker. He wrecks his knee, but keeps going with a huge slam to Kane.
I could see the champion being Sheamus for now with him cashing in.
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Post by: doafan on November 06, 2015, 02:46:50 pm
Have to admit that am not a big fan of Smackdown at least not anymore but yesterday's main event had my complete attention cause both wrestlers are right now my favorites also wasn't totally convinced about the results, really want to know how the WWE is gonna manage the Ambrose/Owens feud, they can get the attention of lot of people if they do things right ;)
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Post by: burningdoom on November 06, 2015, 04:30:08 pm
I REALLY hope we don't get Lesnar back as a part-time champ. If they feel the need to put the belt on him, then he needs to actually make an appearance more than once every couple of months.
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Post by: weirdfeline on November 11, 2015, 10:29:07 am
I REALLY hope we don't get Lesnar back as a part-time champ. If they feel the need to put the belt on him, then he needs to actually make an appearance more than once every couple of months.
He's been pretty active ever since he announced re-signing to the WWE and never going back to UFC. Quite frankly, I don't want to see more of him because his "special attraction" status is admirable. He is quite literally a beast, and watching him in the ring is always exciting. His match against Cena at SummerSlam last summer was the best thing ever.
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Post by: doafan on November 12, 2015, 01:39:57 pm
His match against Cena at SummerSlam last summer was the best thing ever.
Even better than his match against Golberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Goldberg) at Wrestlemania XX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_XX) ?, come on this has to be the best match of Lesnar they even had Stone Cold Steve Austin as the special guest referee ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on November 12, 2015, 01:55:48 pm
His match against Cena at SummerSlam last summer was the best thing ever.
Even better than his match against Golberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Goldberg) at Wrestlemania XX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_XX) ?, come on this has to be the best match of Lesnar they even had Stone Cold Steve Austin as the special guest referee ;D
Are you serious? That was one of the biggest disasters of a match in WWE history. It's notorious. It lasted under 3 minutes. And in that 3 minutes they took a while to even lock up. And this was a match-up that fans had dreamed about. Soooo disappointing.
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Post by: doafan on November 12, 2015, 02:28:35 pm
Are you serious? That was one of the biggest disasters of a match in WWE history. It's notorious. It lasted under 3 minutes. And in that 3 minutes they took a while to even lock up. And this was a match-up that fans had dreamed about. Soooo disappointing.
Damn it seems that I need to practice my sarcasm in English or at least learn how to apply properly into the sentences, sorry this is not my primary language :-\
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Post by: burningdoom on November 12, 2015, 03:04:01 pm
Yeah, totally missed the sarcasm.
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Post by: doafan on November 13, 2015, 07:55:22 pm
Ten years ago this dude passed away and since his depart the WWE has not been the same, have seen a lot of wrestlers with attitude, strength, passion, dedication but no one can match him, he had all this attributes and really loved the business, when I was younger used to go to the arenas of my city every time that he came with Art Barr, at that time they where known as La Pareja del Terror, man how much I miss those good times still remember when my mom told me about his dead I totally cried like a fucking kid :'(
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Post by: burningdoom on November 15, 2015, 03:29:26 pm
Not old enough to remember him actually wrestling, but I do remember him as a manager in WCW during the late 80s/early 90s.
So I watched this last night, the documentary part (haven't got to the matches, yet).
Not bad, but I think it definitely could have been better. It was a documentary-style, that followed Sting around the WWE headquarters as he reminisced about his career (with of course added footage from the past where applicable).
I think it was very lacking, though. I was really hoping to learn some more about his WCW career during the blonde-years. But it skipped over a LOT of that.
It did give a lot about how his career began with body-building, teaming with Ultimate Warrior, and getting his start in Jerry Jarrett's organization. Then it talks about him getting into WCW. Thing is, it only really talks about his break-in match with Flair, then skips ahead to the big Starrcade build-up and match with Hogan in 1996, and his change into Crow Sting. Which is a career-defining match for him, no doubt. But I wanted to see stuff about his rivalries with The Great Mutah, Vader, and Cactus Jack. It then skips ahead to the final Nitro at Panama Beach. Totally skipping the stuff in-between with The Wolfpac, the WCW version of the Mega-Powers with him Hogan and Goldberg, and his violent rivalry with Vampiro. Surprisingly enough, Sting does at least mention his time with TNA, though. And then it skips ahead to his signing with WWE.
The match selection looks good, though. I look forward to that.
Did anyone else watch this? What are your thoughts on it?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 22, 2015, 06:51:02 pm
Geez, rough time in the WWE. Rollins is out, forcing him to vacate the belt, Rusev is apparently out from injury, and now Cesaro could be out with injury for months. I didn't even notice that Orton was gone too from an injury, but that makes sense after he kinda disappeared during the Wyatt family stuff. The artcle also points out that Tyson Kidd is still gone, so apparently him and Cesaro can go and be broken tag team partners together now lol
Oh well, hoping for something interesting tonight at Survivor Series.
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Post by: doafan on November 23, 2015, 03:43:31 pm
Unfortunately didn't had a chance to watch the full Survivors series event cause I had to attend a compromise with my wife but still managed to watch the last two matches and damn they were so pretty good, gonna leave my comments and will try to watch the rest of the event at night.
* Brothers of Destruction vs. The Wyatt Family: What can I say the result of this match was the one that all the people at the event was expecting, even when the match was unfair (come on 2 against 4) Taker and Kane were as powerful as when I was younger, glad to see that when this two mothafuckas still are serous business and am really hoping to see a rematch of this one even when they didn't have any belt on the line. * WWE World Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Am quite sure that this one had to be the best match of the night, had the idea for some days that Reigns was about to become part of The Authority before this event and that he was gonna end the friendship with Ambrose but am glad that this didn't happened, the match was hell of amazing that I really can't say which one of the two wrestlers was the best cause both of them did an amazing job and when both of them remain as friends after Reings won indeed was epic, about what happened next don't want to talk about it.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 23, 2015, 04:13:27 pm
I thought the Ambrose/Reigns fight was kinda just alright. Same for The Taker/Kane match, though I know that was mostly just going to be a more basic match, but after Taker's match with Lesnar, this was kinda underwhelming outside of a few spots. I actually thought one of the better matches were Ambrose and Owens, some great hits in that and I thought there was some good stuff with Reigns and Rio. The elimination tag team match was fairly disappointing. New Day leaving is fine on Raw, but lets not pull that shit on a PPV.
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Post by: burningdoom on November 23, 2015, 04:30:03 pm
I totally wanted Ambrose to end up with the strap. But I guess he's forever relegated to mid-carder. I personally think he's the best guy on their roster right now.
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Post by: doafan on December 07, 2015, 03:06:53 pm
Can't believe that the event TLC is so damn close at there are that many matches announced for this one, really want to believe that Wikipedia has not updated the article with the list of the matches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC:_Tables,_Ladders_and_Chairs_%282015%29) cause this are the only ones that they got at the page ...
1.- Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship 2.- Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship 3.- The New Day vs. The Usos vs. The Lucha Dragons: Triple Threat Tag Team Ladder match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
Haven't seen RAW or SmackDown lately but I'm quite sure that there is gonna be a match between the Wyath Family vs The Dudley Boys, Tommy Dreamer and a 4th wrestler that is not yet confirmed, is there any other match that am missing ? ???
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Post by: ignition365 on December 07, 2015, 03:11:58 pm
Can't believe that the event TLC is so damn close at there are that many matches announced for this one, really want to believe that Wikipedia has not updated the article with the list of the matches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC:_Tables,_Ladders_and_Chairs_%282015%29) cause this are the only ones that they got at the page ...
1.- Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship 2.- Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship 3.- The New Day vs. The Usos vs. The Lucha Dragons: Triple Threat Tag Team Ladder match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
Haven't seen RAW or SmackDown lately but I'm quite sure that there is gonna be a match between the Wyath Family vs The Dudley Boys, Tommy Dreamer and a 4th wrestler that is not yet confirmed, is there any other match that am missing ? ???
I haven't watched in a long long time, but I wasn't aware that the Dudleys came back to WWE and Tommy Dreamer came out of retirement.
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Post by: doafan on December 07, 2015, 03:19:59 pm
I haven't watched in a long long time, but I wasn't aware that the Dudleys came back to WWE and Tommy Dreamer came out of retirement.
Retirement ?, what the hell are you talking about Bubba Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley were working for the TNA these past years about Tommy Dreamer am not quite sure since I didn't knew that he came back to the WWE until a partner from the office told me this new ;D
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Post by: ignition365 on December 07, 2015, 04:23:23 pm
I don't know what's confusing about my statement. I didn't know the Dudleys left TNA and I had thought Tommy Dreamer had retired years ago.
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Post by: doafan on December 07, 2015, 04:25:27 pm
Can't believe that the event TLC is so damn close at there are that many matches announced for this one, really want to believe that Wikipedia has not updated the article with the list of the matches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TLC:_Tables,_Ladders_and_Chairs_%282015%29) cause this are the only ones that they got at the page ...
1.- Sheamus vs. Roman Reigns: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship 2.- Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship 3.- The New Day vs. The Usos vs. The Lucha Dragons: Triple Threat Tag Team Ladder match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
Haven't seen RAW or SmackDown lately but I'm quite sure that there is gonna be a match between the Wyath Family vs The Dudley Boys, Tommy Dreamer and a 4th wrestler that is not yet confirmed, is there any other match that am missing ? ???
Same, but I think that's it mostly for the big matches. Probably a Diva's match will happen too, but those are usually not worth watching. Which reminds me to try and catch up on some NXT. Usually can get some good stuff there and I haven't seen anything with Asuka since her second match.
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Post by: doafan on December 08, 2015, 10:13:12 pm
Same, but I think that's it mostly for the big matches. Probably a Diva's match will happen too, but those are usually not worth watching.
Allow me to say that you were right, two new matches has been announced this past Monday at RAW:
4.- Paige vs. Charlotte (c) c/ Ric Flair: WWE Divas Championship Match 5.- Jack Swagger vs. Alberto Del Rio: WWE United States Championship - Chairs Match
.. also Rhino has been confirmed as the fourth member of the Dudley's & Tommy Dream team (fuck yeah) 8)
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Post by: doafan on December 13, 2015, 01:34:38 pm
It's almost time for the event and a couple of days ago the WWE announced a last time fight between Ryback vs. Rusev (with Lana) dunno how they get the idea but I do want this one to be the first match cause is this one and the Diva's those that I don't usually see and before the match here are my predictions:
* Ryback:: if I wanted to see a Goldberg match I can always search him at Youtube. * Team ECW: as an extreme fan I seriously wants this to happen, hope am correct. * Charlotte: no comments neither maybe because I'll gonna make myself a sandwich. * Alberto del Rio: honestly I don't like both of them but we need to have a loser. * Lucha Dragons: why ?, because am Mexican and want to see these mothafuckas won the belts. * Kevin Owens: already had changed my avatar and signature cause am pretty confident * Roman Reigns: am not saying that is impossible but am quite sure a lot of us are expecting this to happen.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 13, 2015, 05:07:51 pm
It's almost time for the event and a couple of days ago the WWE announced a last time fight between Ryback vs. Rusev (with Lana) dunno how they get the idea but I do want this one to be the first match cause is this one and the Diva's those that I don't usually see and before the match here are my predictions:
* Ryback:: if I wanted to see a Goldberg match I can always search him at Youtube. * Team ECW: as an extreme fan I seriously wants this to happen, hope am correct. * Charlotte: no comments neither maybe because I'll gonna make myself a sandwich. * Alberto del Rio: honestly I don't like both of them but we need to have a loser. * Lucha Dragons: why ?, because am Mexican and want to see these mothafuckas won the belts. * Kevin Owens: already had changed my avatar and signature cause am pretty confident * Roman Reigns: am not saying that is impossible but am quite sure a lot of us are expecting this to happen.
Still not sure if I'm gonna watch it or not. A couple fights might be alright, though I will say I'm glad to see that they did drop the Lana/Ziggler thing. They RUINED Lana by turning her into just Ziggler's arm candy and all the embarrassing romantic conflict stuff was so badly conceived. I had only started watching her with Rusev at Wrestlemania, probably missing the better time of Rusev, and really loved how she was portrayed with him. Hoping it's back to that now.
I want to like Lucha Dragons more, but they aren't the strongest team. They have some sweet moves when Sin Cara isn't botching things and outside of that, they have no presence. It doesn't help that New Day is basically the best thing happening in the tag team division other than maybe the Dudley's lol
I really don't think they are gonna give Reigns the win. I know it's common place to screw him over continually now, but Sheamus losing the belt so quickly feels underwhelming and way too fast. If they were going to have Reigns win, they would've let him win and then have Sheamus steal it maybe at whatever the next event would be in a month or two, and then once Rollins comes back, it could be a big deal between them to see who can get their belt back, which I would then hope for Rollins, cause he's such a great heel. It could've been a three way battle perhaps at Wrestlemania for the win or something. Slightly unrealistic idea though as I know Rollins isn't likely to be ready before Wrestlemania anyways.
*EDIT* Eh, I caved and restarted my membership for another month. I haven't been keeping up with Raw, which apparently has been sucking mostly lately, but I'll watch TLC while playing some Xenoblade Chronicles X and then maybe catch up NXT which I hear is doing way better than the main show lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 13, 2015, 08:21:28 pm
Lucha Dragons vs New Day vs Uso's - This is actually a really fun match. Lots of good spots with interesting ladder uses. I think they realized they needed something pretty fun right away. I don't think Lucha's will take it, I think either New Day will retain or Uso's might get it. I feel Uso's, just because I think we could use something refreshing. I won't spoil the win if anyone is waiting to watch afterwards. Man, that spot with Kalisto from the top of the ladder onto the horizontal ladder was sick. Real awesome.
Rusev vs Ryback - Hard to top that starting match, but this was alright. Usual kind of match for these guys. I don't really care for the "Lana's Hurt" gimmick, but it works well enough to help put over Rusev as the heel he's supposed to be. Hoping this is a come back for Rusev after all the months of lame shit they put him through.
Swagger vs Del Rio - I don't really have any connection for this match. Swagger and Del Rio were before I got back into wrestling, so I've barely seen anything with them. Lots of chair chucking and chair smashing lol Makes for some good hits at least. Solid match, it felt very intense. You can feel it when they do things right so that you can tell when two guys really hate each other (kayfabe).
Extreme vs Wyatts - All this "Extreme" build up just for them to get destroyed by the Wyatts. Lame. Some alright spots here and there, but it ended up being just disappointing. Great idea, lets bring Rhyno up to the main show and have him get knocked out first, not even getting his signature in. Dreamer wasn't much either. Eh. Not terrible, but it had potential to be a lot more exciting I think.
Ambrose vs Owens - Better than I thought and being the one of two normal matches so far, it did well. Might want to change that avatar and signature lol
Flair vs Paige - It was alright. It's kind of a sad compliment to say it wasn't awful lol
Romans vs Sheamus - Not a good start to a match, when "Let's Go Cena/Cena Sucks" starts chanting by a large portion of the audience. It's not wonder Raw has garbage ratings, no one wants this fight. Initially I didn't think Romans would win, but I think he might. I think they have to make up for their failure by giving Roman the win, even if not everyone wants it, but this was just a dumb feud to make.
This is a solid match, but it shows how much they will have to do make up for things, when the audience will chant for anything but you.
And they screwed it up. They are gonna give it to Sheamus all in the favor of this League of Nations bullcrap. Way to go. No wonder the ratings for WWE are shit. The match was fine, but this was some garbage. It doesn't even make sense. Where's the Uso's and Ambrose to come out and help out when the very obvious run-in from Del Rio and Rusev is going to happen. All this talk of "family", but apparently Roman's family doesn't give a shit about him to watch his back. WWE creative writing at its worst. This ONLY works if Reigns goes heel. This is his turning point. Not gonna happen though. He's supposed to be the next Cena.
They might actually be doing it that Roman has snapped. This might be the only way to salvage this...I can't imagine though that they make this work. He'll go back to being the same 'ole Roman. Roman from now on must be nuts . He has to be on a rampage.
Not a terrible show like I thought it could be. Some good matches here and there. The only "eh" match was Rusev vs Ryback, clearly the filler match. I'd even say that Charlotte vs Paige was better, just because it had purpose. At least NXT London is coming up.
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Post by: doafan on December 14, 2015, 11:25:09 am
We seriously need a delete button just for this kind of situations.
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Post by: doafan on December 14, 2015, 11:26:41 am
Ambrose vs Owens - Better than I thought and being the one of two normal matches so far, it did well. Might want to change that avatar and signature lol
Hell no >:(
It seems that my predictions suck so here are my comments and am gonna give some Spoilers so you have been warned ...
* Lucha Dragons: have to admit that this was the best match of the event and really don't understand why they put this one first but anyway even when my team didn't won the belts they did an awesome job with the ladders, has been a long time since the last time that Edge and Christian use them so well, kinda disapointed with the result and am pretty sure that the New Day will be wearing them for a long time. * Ryback:: Even when I didn't wanted ended up watching the match and really don't know why if I was playing some hordes at Gears of War 3, the match was boring as hell and really can't believe that the writers are still making Ryback a complete moron with all the Lana's "injuries", I saw this match with my wife and even she was yelling because of this nonsense. * Alberto del Rio: What can I say this was one of the two matches that I actually predicted well, since nobody interfered and that he won by itself guess that Alberto is gonna retain the belt for some time, I do admit that he is not my favorite wrestler and that is kinda ironic that a Mexican is holding the US Championship. * Team ECW: simply bullshit, was expecting more from Tommy and Rhino even when he has won some extra weight his performance was simply poor and am not saying because that he is fat he was bad, he had this weight and was a badass at ROH when he was part of the SCUM team, dunno if it was because of the stupid P-G but the ECW practically did nothing, my wife said that they lost because Bubba took to damn much time in put the fire into the table. * Kevin Owens: not what I expected and am talking about the performance of Owens and the result of the match, my wife said that she totally didn't want to miss this one cause am right now a Kevin's fan, she even post the results of the match at her Facebook account, damn it I still gonna purchase his action figure as my Christmas gift. * Charlotte: didn't saw this one, but my wife said that Charlotte won because she cheated with the help of Rick Flair. * Roman Reigns: saw this one with my little girl and my wife where I'll remember forever the reaction of my girl, was expecting to see her scared but the was yelling and jumping at the bed every damn second about the match just gotta say that totally love Reigns reaction after the match and now I want to see how the authority is going to act.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 14, 2015, 03:29:59 pm
* Roman Reigns: saw this one with my little girl and my wife where I'll remember forever the reaction of my girl, was expecting to see her scared but the was yelling and jumping at the bed every damn second about the match just gotta say that totally love Reigns reaction after the match and now I want to see how the authority is going to act.
If it turns out to be just another nothing feud with no pay off, no serious drama, with Roman not going on a rampage or going nuts, that whole ending will be wasted. Someone I saw on twitter made a good point that he should go heel, kick Ambrose and the Uso's ass for not helping him out again when he needed them, or blow them off and go on a one man rampage with his sights set on the Royal Rumble for some big come back.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 15, 2015, 04:37:08 am
Vincent McMahon may be a big part of the companies issues, but seeing him back on the show, as it's apparently been a year since his last live appearance, but far more many years for me, it's nostalgic. He may not be as imposing as he once was, but he's still got that voice that sounds like he's gargling concrete lol
Roman went back to being same 'old Roman, but with a little more fight into him. He should've come out like he was the goddamn Terminator. McMahon can still sell a bit though. He almost got into it with Roman and I almost wanted to see it, even though I knew it wasn't going to happen and that it wouldn't be anything lol Ah, nostalgia...
Also I hate when they do the same exact show after a PPV, but it's way better. This Extreme vs Wyatts battle is way better than last nights. No eliminations. Everyone is hitting spots. There was a hilarious moment where Harper smacks Bubba with a kendo stick, with Bubba on the floor, Harper on the Matt. Harper smacks Bubba, gets mad and chucks the stick down, it bounces up and over the ropes, and Bubba catches it in a surprise, running back in to smack Harper with it lol Also who thought it would be a great to build up "Team Extreme", so that they just get wrecked twice in a row? Dreamer isn't really anything, but Rhyno shouldn't be making his way out of NXT just to get stomped both times.
Geez, that end for Raw. Actually a good fight, probably better the night before with Roman and Sheamus, you could feel it being a real brawl, they got Vince worked into it, and Reigns comes out as champion. My guess now is that the McMahon's are on a Reign rampage, using the League of Nations like attack dogs to make his life hell. I have to wonder if they are making this their turning point to try and make things better.
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Post by: doafan on December 15, 2015, 05:05:37 pm
Damn and I was hoping that he became a heel anyway guess that the writers really didn't knew what to do with the story or they totally messed up that even the old Vince has to come to the rescue, gonna be watching very closely the next shows to see more 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 15, 2015, 05:42:08 pm
Damn and I was hoping that he became a heel anyway guess that the writers really didn't knew what to do with the story or they totally messed up that even the old Vince has to come to the rescue, gonna be watching very closely the next shows to see more 8)
If they weren't going to go heel, having him go full anti-authority, beating down the McMahons to turn up the heat more, and letting him actually win for once without scumming it out again, isn't too bad. But yeah, we'll have to wait and see. They have a lot more work to go as better writing has to happen across the full range of wrestlers. Kinda hoping that is what is going on. Rusev/Ziggler/Lana triangle? Gone! That weird Meximerica thing with Rio and Coulter? Gone! Here's hoping.
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Post by: doafan on December 21, 2015, 11:52:31 am
Previous tonight's Raw show it will be the Slammy Awards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slammy_Award) event at “Suplex City”, Minnesota where I do have to admit that really don't give a shit about the awards but am a lot interested in the show cause at the Target Center web page they are announcing the dark match between Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt and Kevin Owens, it will be fucking excellent if Owens started a friendship with the Family, haven't seen him in a team for sometime and what a better team than this one but the main fight of tonight can change if at last moment they put Reigns vs Sheamus which I really don't want to see and happen ::)
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Post by: burningdoom on December 21, 2015, 01:03:21 pm
If any of you are old-school wrestling fans:
The WWE Network just added a CRAPLOAD of classic stuff including all the WWF Attitude Era Raws, all the WCW Nitros from the beginning in late 1995 until spring 1998. And even a bunch of NWA Wrestling, AWA, and Mid-South stuff.
It was enough to make me re-up my subscription again after not having it for a while.
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Post by: doafan on December 21, 2015, 01:13:44 pm
Am old-school but if they don't add the WCW/ECW Invasion stuff am not in :P
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Post by: burningdoom on December 21, 2015, 01:24:06 pm
Am old-school but if they don't add the WCW/ECW Invasion stuff am not in :P
They do have the Raws from that era, and always had the PPVs.
Although you aren't missing much. It was a weak invasion since most of the big-name WCW stars weren't a part of it. Scott Steiner, Booker T, and DDP were best we got. And they completely misused DDP and Steiner.
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Post by: doafan on December 21, 2015, 01:31:17 pm
It might not be big thing at that moment but for me it was fucking epic, used to see Eddie Guerrero when he was part of the WCW and seeing him at WWF was so fucking epic, if am not wrong still have the VHS tapes where I used to record the shows at my parents home, damn guess that will clean the VHS just to remember those amazing moments :'(
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Post by: burningdoom on December 21, 2015, 01:43:48 pm
It might not be big thing at that moment but for me it was fucking epic, used to see Eddie Guerrero when he was part of the WCW and seeing him at WWF was so fucking epic, if am not wrong still have the VHS tapes where I used to record the shows at my parents home, damn guess that will clean the VHS just to remember those amazing moments :'(
Eddie showed up in WWF a few years before the Invasion ever happened, in The Radicalz along with Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and Chris Beniot. That was exciting. Especially since Beniot had just won the WCW World Heavyweight Championship literally right before jumping ship to WWF. Man, that was some must-see wrestling back then, wish it was half as good today.
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Post by: doafan on December 21, 2015, 02:09:43 pm
Totally agree with you, Eddie's is my favorite wrestler I used to see him and Art Barr (Love Machine) wrestling here in my city, after Latino Heat passed away there was no wrestler that really impressed me until Kevin Steen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Owens) arrived, am kinda obsessed with how he wrestle but am not talking about his fights in the WWE or NXT, am talking about his matches at CZW (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Zone_Wrestling), PWG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Wrestling_Guerrilla) and the best for me at ROH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROH_World_Championship), damn love the teaming and the feuding that he used to had with El Generico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Zayn) (it kinda remember me the attitude era) and even when I saw what Owens did to Sami when he won the NXT Championship did not beat the original idea, it's a shame that the WWE wants to make money of this
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 22, 2015, 01:24:34 am
The Slammy's aren't too bad when you realize that it's the only awards show that is likely to have people getting jumped, such as Owens coming out when Neville won for breakout star lol
Though what the hell is with them constantly sandbagging the ECW team? They teased a fire table not long ago, nothing happened. Dudley's tonight were gonna table someone, they get stomped. It's like a battle of wanting to push Wyatt's, because it's a good team with crap motivations, but they also want to do something with the "Extreme" guys, but they don't know what to do with them in any way other than getting mostly just stomped by the Wyatts.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 22, 2015, 01:19:13 pm
It's like a battle of wanting to push Wyatt's, because it's a good team with crap motivations, but they also want to do something with the "Extreme" guys, but they don't know what to do with them in any way other than getting mostly just stomped by the Wyatts.
I heard from a buddy that they want they Hardy's back to WWE since their contracts are about to expire this next February with the TNA don't know if it is true but indeed is a good idea since Christian and Edge are already at the company so really want to believe that they are trying to revive the Tables, Ladders and Chairs battles, this is to damn good to be true but unfortunately Jeff will go to a knee surgery where it seems that he can't be as extreme as he was :'(
I'm attempting to watch all the WCW Nitros in order, since WWE Network has them in order (at least until spring 1998, hopefully by the time I get there, there will be more).
And I'm reminded at how incredibly terrible Steve "Mongo" McMichaels was at broadcasting. How did he EVER get that job. There are times when he and Bobby Heenan are trying to take jabs at each other (like Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon used to do), but McMichaels just can't do it. He sounds like a 5-year old trying to call you a stupid-head and can't even accomplish that much. And when he's trying to do play-by-play, the guy is still screaming (yes screaming) about what happened 10 minutes ago and Bischoff is trying to move on without getting annoyed. ...and that stupid dog.
I say a lot about how terrible Michael Cole is. But I'd take him in a heartbeat over McMichaels. It almost makes me want to skip ahead to mid-96 when he stopped announcing...almost.
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Post by: doafan on December 29, 2015, 05:22:33 pm
It seems that the latest matches of Kevin Owens has been quite interesting these past two weeks, need to borrow a copy of these but without a doubt the triple threat match from this past 22 (http://www.wwe.com/videos/dean-ambrose-vs-dolph-ziggler-vs-kevin-owens-intercontinental-title-triple-threa-28412041) one against Dean Ambrose and Dolph Ziggler has to be the first one also the one against Neville it appears to be pretty good, and am not talking about the match am talking about what happened after the 1,2,3 count ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 29, 2015, 06:36:23 pm
Man, I love it when wrestlers go nuts with taking hits like that lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 05, 2016, 04:13:53 am
I realized that it's been almost exactly a year since I got back into wrestling, primarily because of Wrestling Kingdom 9. Now with Wrestling Kingdom 10 done and I just watched it, we once again have what I feel is like some of the best wrestling you could see. WWE wishes it could be half this good. They might have better production, and better refs (Holy crap, must've been a dozen times I see the ref going for the 3 count and visibly holding back lol), but the wrestling was incredible in practically every single match. The best things we might see in NXT and especially on regular WWE are commonplace in New Japan and ROH apparently. Sometimes big moments hit like what we saw in the tag team match at TLC abit ago with the Uso's and Dragon's, but I saw so many crazy moves at Wrestling Kingdom 10.
Even matches that weren't the greatest, were still great. Like one match was mostly a striker match, lots of holds and punches, but there was an incredible dynamic of who could take the hits better, purposefully switching to take the same hits they give, to prove they were stronger. The hits these guys take. You can certainly tell when guys were taking some real hits.
I mean holy crap, Nakamura's knees! https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CX6a3OFW8AEwP9z.mp4
Also I really love the Japanese crowds. American crowds are obnoxious as shit with their love of chanting random crap. Japanese crowds are maybe abit too subdued at times, but you can really feel their excitement build from beginning to end as the matches increase in popularity. Also rather than chanting constantly, they get louder when the approve of quality moves or moments.
*EDIT* Word is, that AJ Styles, Gallows, Anderson, and THE KING OF STRONG STYLE NAKAMURA, might be heading to WWE. Apparently this is a huge get. After watching AJ Styles fight Nakamura at Wrestle Kingdom, I'm all over this.
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Post by: doafan on January 05, 2016, 05:14:08 pm
WWE wish to be at least good and am not kidding have been seeing a lot of Ring of Honor and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla where both companies even when they don't have nothing better to offer their matches are pretty damn good, it remind me a lot those matches that I used to watch when I was a kid, spent all my Sunday mornings watching Mexican wrestling (damn how much miss those days) and a lot of those matches trust me are better than the actual ones that the WWE is giving us, of course there are a couple of exceptions right now but with the damn PG restriction and the bad writers that they have has it seems that the company will not be the same for a long while anyway and since you where talking about better refs this is one that you need to see in action, check his reactions specially from the minute 15:06 but without a doubt the one at 15:45 is the fucking best one of all, enjoy the full match with some pop corns and a cool beer cause the whole match is worth it ;)
Super Dragon & Excalibur vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico
By the way am glad to see another Nakamura's fan around here, this mothafucka has some pretty good matches and those knees are pure gold, really hope that he have an outstanding insure over them just like J-lo's has one for that big ass cause those knees everything to him, started to hear of him first in a match against Kurt Angle, then with Brock Lesnar (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gqnyi_shinsuke-nakamura-vs-brock-lesnar-04-01-06_sport) and finally with Kevin Steen (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gqod5) if he and Aj Styles are coming to WWE greatest things will happen in a near future.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 05, 2016, 05:30:14 pm
The King of Strong Style won me over last year when I first saw him. Just lots of character and pretty intense.
*EDIT* While still not technically confirmation, the WWE website is acknowledging the talk about those guys coming to WWE, which seems to me to mostly be confirmation since WWE has no reason to comment on this if it wasn't true and they are just trying to play up the hype lol
Oh man, reading a tweet, it got me excited to see possible fights like Nakamura/Rollins...Nakamura/Bryan (if he returns, which I hope he does)...Styles/Balor...
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 06, 2016, 06:07:16 am
A year on back into wrestling now and after WK10, I think I'm starting to notice more often when things are doing REALLY good in WWE. With RAW this week, you see people like Del Rio, just freaking nailing hits and making it look and sound like they connect. I'm taking a liking to him abit more lately. Neville is another who I've felt has kinda come out swinging more too as he was abit formulaic when he debuted on the main show, because man he can sell hits like nobodies business alongside his great high flying moves. That big clothesline backflip from last time, this week he took a rope dropped DDT directly on the head, which he basically rolls body straight into a fall that LOOKS fantastic.
Then you watch Charlotte and Becky and go...what the hell. Weren't these two kind of big deals in NXT? Charlotte at least, I know Becky is abit newer to it for the most part, but man I don't think I've seen a slower, more telegraphed match lately.
It's also why I think people hate Cena so much, for reasons beyond just him being a boring, mostly, babyface, it's that he can't sell anything. His reactions to hits are dull and stiff, and his move execution is equally as stiff most of the time. The STF hold he does might be one of the worst grabs in the WWE right now, mostly because he doesn't grab anything, he just kinda pulls the leg up and squeezes his arms around the guys face, though I've seen shots of him doing a proper headlock, but certainly not lately.
It's not like I'm expecting Cena to go all "Ziggler" with spazzing out (Though straight up, I'll take exaggerated over stiff ANY day, sell your hits like you couldn't sell harder lol), but if the hits don't feel like they are connecting and they don't feel like your dishing them out, then what are we watching here?
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Post by: doafan on January 06, 2016, 12:56:23 pm
Damn thing are getting pretty interesting for Roman Reigns, just saw this past RAW show and the latest comment of Vince is pure gold: It's my duty to inform you that the next time you defend that championship it will be at the Royal Rumble Pay-Per-View, it will be you defending your championship against 29 other man at the Royal Rumble match, as far as I remember this have never happened in this event so really want to see he if he might me able to retain the belt by itself or if he will gonna receive the help of some wrestlers (http://i.imgur.com/95AWnoa.gif)
At this moment there are no official matches schedules for the Royal Rumble but here is the current list of the main event: Roman Reigns, Big Show, Curtis Axel, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Braun Strowman, Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho and Ryback hope that at least Kevin Owens can make it too and maybe (but I really don't believe this one can be true ) we can see Dean Ambrose of course if he don't have an Intercontinental Championship match with somebody else (http://i.imgur.com/Fwrp9y5.gif)
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Post by: burningdoom on January 06, 2016, 01:12:57 pm
I was just talking with a buddy about A.J. Styles coming to WWE and the Royal Rumble. And the rumors of Rock coming back for another WrestleMania.
As unlikely as this scenario is: How awesome would it be if either Rock or A.J. Syles won the Rumble, and we got The Rock vs. A.J. Styles as the headliner for WrestleMania? I would order that in a heartbeat for that match alone.
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Post by: doafan on January 09, 2016, 11:09:11 am
I was just talking with a buddy about A.J. Styles coming to WWE and the Royal Rumble. And the rumors of Rock coming back for another WrestleMania.
Since Cena had some injuries in his right shoulder and will be in recovery for a couple of months (http://www.wwe.com/inside/john-cena-surgery-january-2016-28503697) the rumors of Dwayne Johnson coming back in action sounds better but there are also some rumors that maybe Triple HHH is gonna make his appearance at the Rumble to take vengeance on Reigns hope that this doesn't became true.
As unlikely as this scenario is: How awesome would it be if either Rock or A.J. Syles won the Rumble, and we got The Rock vs. A.J. Styles as the headliner for WrestleMania? I would order that in a heartbeat for that match alone.
A.J. Styles winning the Rumble sounds so fucking cool but as far as I know by that date he still needs to end his contract with NJPW so we might not gonna see this happen, would I'll love to see Kevin vs The Rock since Owens is his fan ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 10, 2016, 06:59:22 pm
Kinda really excited for the possibility of Nakamura related stuff, so does anyone have any good matches worth checking out? I've seen Wrestle Kingdom 9 and 10, so should I just keep going backwards in the WK events? 9 and 10 were amazing, some of the best PPV stuff I've seen, so I figure it might be worth doing.
Also Owens in a recent interview said he's really excited for Nakamura maybe showing up, having fought him once before WWE. That would be killer to see Owens go all out against Nakamura.
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Post by: doafan on January 11, 2016, 11:32:02 am
Also Owens in a recent interview said he's really excited for Nakamura maybe showing up, having fought him once before WWE. That would be killer to see Owens go all out against Nakamura.
Damn you won me the post, saw it yesterday and am gonna leave it here, guess that is the same that you saw ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 11, 2016, 09:16:26 pm
I wish they did more with Stardust. I love the gimmick and they sorta had a few things going on with him with Neville and the comic villain angle, but I feel like they should do a lot more with the crazy aspect. Attacking backstage, screwing with matches, even if I'm not sure what the end goal of it would be and who he should make a feud with it to maximize the chaos. Honestly, if Ambrose wasn't basically a good guy and Stardust a bad guy, I think it would be great to get them teaming together and causing havoc lol
The Bowie tribute paint was a nice touch tonight.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYeuSPvUAAEOxYt.jpg)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 14, 2016, 03:41:02 am
Women's Royal Rumble on NXT last night. I can't remember the last time I ever saw that. Asuka really was the fan favorite and still continues to be mine on NXT. Not speaking much English works in her favor, so she says little and her personality mostly just comes down to acting and looking diabolical, which is awesome lol
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Post by: doafan on January 19, 2016, 02:38:18 pm
A couple of matches has been announced these past days so at this moment is something the list is this one also it's official that Roman Reigns will be the first man to enter at the ring, kinda lame the way the did it but I don't care, just want to see the event.
Royal Rumble Match: 30 man Royal Rumble match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship Dean Ambrose vs. Kevin Owens: Last Man Standing match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship Alberto Del Rio vs. Kalisto: Singles match for the WWE United States Championship Charlotte (with Ric Flair) vs. Becky Lynch: Singles match for the WWE Divas Championship The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) vs. The Usos (Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso): Tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
At one wrestling page from Mexico that I follow they got a couple of theories of those wrestlers that might appear at the main event, the first of all is The Rock (http://superluchas.com/2016/01/18/wwe-ya-penso-en-una-solucion-para-que-the-rock-luche-en-wrestlemania-32/) don't want to have him back at the WWE but indeed it will be an awesome support to Reigns or at least for The Usos, the second at the list of possible appearances and the one that I want the most is AJ Styles (http://superluchas.com/2016/01/18/aj-styles-en-ring-of-honor-unas-horas-antes-de-royal-rumble/) really hope that this became true and the last one is Shawn Michaels (http://superluchas.com/2016/01/18/shawn-michaels-podria-regresar-a-la-lucha-libre-en-royal-rumble/), has been a couple of years since his last perfomance so his appearance at least for me it wouldn't be bad 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 19, 2016, 03:03:30 pm
Eh, I feel this has the potential to be a poor Rumble, which is weird as initially I was kinda excited for it at first. I can't see them having Reigns lose the belt so fast already, which means he's almost guaranteed to win the Rumble. Maybe I'm wrong and they are gonna give it to someone else so that Reigns can win it back at Wrestlemania, but that feels like too much of a repeat of Wrestlemania last year with that. I'm still going to watch this one, but I'm worried they aren't going to handle this right like WWE tends to do. Maybe I'm wrong and something happens to make this interesting.
I feel like we'll see New Day lose the belts in this one. I've grown to like them, but they've had too many cheap wins for awhile and I think it's time to freshen things up. Get some new champs in there, and then have New Day go wild on people.
Not sure on Owens and Ambrose. This one has more leeway, in that the belt can change fairly often, so I could see it switch back to Owens perhaps. We'll see.
I'm liking Kalisto a lot more lately and I'm hoping this is a pretty good match. Would be cool if he stuck around as the US Champ for now.
Not sure if I have much of anything for Michaels. He hasn't wrestled in about 6 years and I don't know if he has it anymore. I just read this, which says while WWE wants him back, he doesn't want to wrestle again. Seems he'll do small bits, like last years Wrestlemania as a run in, but that's it.
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Post by: doafan on January 20, 2016, 01:50:52 pm
Holly shit, that was fast to damn fast anyway a new match has been announced to the main event and this one is a Fatal four-way tag team match for entry in the Royal Rumble match Darren Young and Damien Sandow vs. The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley) vs. The Ascension (Konnor and Viktor) vs. Mark Henry and Jack Swagger was starting to worry about the fact that i might not going to see the Dudley's at the Rumble ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 20, 2016, 03:58:15 pm
This is such a random match lol Ascension and Dudleys make sense, but Swagger and Henry? Sandow and Young? Real slapped together to me I guess, but could be fun. It's great seeing a grouping that isn't just the same over used people. It was getting dull watching The Dudley's get their ass beat routinely by The Wyatts.
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Post by: doafan on January 20, 2016, 04:19:49 pm
Now that you mentioned The Wyatts do you ever notice you never see Bray Wyatt and Husky Harris in the same place ? also this mothafucka seems to be related to Chumlee, am just saying ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 20, 2016, 05:09:45 pm
LOL I didn't know Bray had another gimmick before this or that his younger brother is Bo Dallas lol Or that his father was IRS from the earlier days of WWE! Interesting to see this stuff.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 20, 2016, 07:55:19 pm
Nexus! One of the few really cool things WWE did in the PG-Era.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 20, 2016, 10:33:54 pm
Is there somewhere to watch the New Japan English broadcast that is supposed to be on AXS TV? I really want to see more New Japan, but that tv station isn't available where I live.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 22, 2016, 12:02:34 pm
AJ Styles is in at WWE!!! And now rumors are swirling of Austin Aries coming in! Oh hell yeah!
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Post by: doafan on January 22, 2016, 02:29:58 pm
AJ Styles is in at WWE!!! And now rumors are swirling of Austin Aries coming in! Oh hell yeah!
Need the source of this one to show my buddy here at the office that I was right, also it kinda amuse me that at this moment the list of participants for the main events have only 18 confirmed wrestlers: Big Show, Curtis Axel, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Ryback, Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho, Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar, Stardust, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Big E, Xavier Woods, Kickoff match winner #1 and Kickoff match winner # 2 that leaves 12 possible special guests, want to believe that Nakamura and Styles still can make it to the Royal Rumble ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on January 22, 2016, 03:43:36 pm
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 22, 2016, 05:22:39 pm
NXT tonight is supposed to be having a big surprise happening (I didn't know it was originally filmed on Friday's and then posted on Wednesday online). Since Styles and Nakamura are the big hitters that could get a main show debut, very possibly a Royal Rumble showing, I'm guessing this one could be for any other guys showing up.
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Post by: doafan on January 22, 2016, 05:40:54 pm
NXT tonight is supposed to be having a big surprise happening (I didn't know it was originally filmed on Friday's and then posted on Wednesday online). Since Styles and Nakamura are the big hitters that could get a main show debut, very possibly a Royal Rumble showing, I'm guessing this one could be for any other guys showing up.
I hope they don't show up at NXT and make their first appearance at the Royal Rumble :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 22, 2016, 07:27:24 pm
I hope they don't show up at NXT and make their first appearance at the Royal Rumble :'(
That's what I meant, in that it's far more likely that Styles and Nakamura could should up at like the Rumble (maybe not Nakamura to me), or even something else that's bigger like a surprise match at Wrestlemania or other PPV show or like the Raw after the Rumble.
Looks like it could be Austin Aries showing up at NXT, being reported backstage, but that might not mean showing tonight. I don't know this guy myself, so this isn't anything for me, but apparently enough to be a big deal to some. I was thinking that maybe Gallows or Anderson are the other possible showings at NXT.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2016, 01:56:05 am
Weirdly hyped and slightly not hyped for the Rumble today. I got some drinks, I'm gonna get some food, and I'll be ready for whatever comes. It's either going to be an amazing event, or it'll be what is expected, in that somehow Reigns wins and while I'm fine with him being champ now, it just doesn't seem like anything super great for an outcome. Even if it ended with like Styles, Nakamura, Reigns, and like Brock Lesnar in the final four, its still a Reigns end and somewhat sours a debute of someone.
I loved someones random idea that Reigns actually gets tossed out early on, like way early, which then turns the Rumble into a mad dash for EVERYONE to try and get the belt lol It's unrealistic to toss him out on his ass like that, but it would be amazing.
*EDIT* Interesting to see WWE playing up rumors stuff on their channel lol [youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaFTSO6lMY8[/youtube]
From how bad Rollins injury sounded to be, I don't expect him to show up until at least Wrestlemania or maybe right before that. Bryan apparently has been struggling to get cleared and it would be great to see him back. I barely saw him before he was taken off the roster and was someone I liked. I feel like Sting and Bryan are realistic possibilities. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing Austin show back up, but I can't imagine he would. I believe he had some pretty serious physical issues that would keep him from wrestling and those injuries don't get better at that point. Interestingly Goldberg made a 2015 appearance for some wrestling event where he speared Scott Steiner, so that's a possibility.
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Post by: doafan on January 24, 2016, 02:29:36 pm
[HypeModeON] Am also ready for tonight's event but I'll enjoy the show with 2 pizzas and 48 hot wings, made my food order by phone this morning also had a bet with my wife at the match of Ambrose vs Owens, guess that don't have to say who is my favorite anyway here are my predictions for this Royal Rumble:
- Fatal Four-Way Tag TeamThe Dudley Boyz: We totaly need them at the main event, hope that this match can be the first one. - WWE Intercontinental ChampionshipKevin Owens: My wife is gonna cock me whatever I want this next week so am hoping that this fat ass won this match also am really hoping to see him at the main event, don't remember in which interview Ambrose said that he will be at the Rumble guess that he will gonna give a hand to his buddy Reigns. - WWE Divas ChampionshipBecky Lynch: A match that I'll use to go to the bathroom and fill my plate again with more food - WWE Tag Team ChampionshipThe Usos: Already tired of the New Day we need new champions and we need them tonight. - WWE United States ChampionshipKalisto: Didn't knew that they have personal issues in real life, so screw Alberto. WWE World Heavyweight ChampionshipRoman Reigns: If a ghost was able to won the Royal Rumble event this past 2004 and even better to throw the Big Show ring out why the hell Reigns won't we gonna able to won this one, he's gonna receive help and I can assure it.
About the wrestlers that are going to make a special entrance I only can mention the following five: The Rock, Goldberg, Kane, AJ Stylez and Triple H, Hunter ?, yes there is a big rumor in Mexico about the big nose dude to be part of the event and to be also one of the last ones, hope that this doesn't became true. [/HypeModeOn]
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Post by: burningdoom on January 24, 2016, 03:02:57 pm
Someone said there are still 12 open spots (really 11, since Styles is pretty much a known at this point). So there's a LOT of room for surprise entrants too.
With that many possible surprises, this should be a helluva Rumble! Every 90 seconds there's something to get excited about! If those Goldberg and Austin Aries rumors are true, I can't wait! Styles is already enough for me to tune in live, today.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2016, 03:05:28 pm
- Fatal Four-Way Tag TeamThe Dudley Boyz: Yeah I think the Dudley Boyz need a win. They've been getting trashed what seems constantly in their big feuds, a lot of it seemingly to keep the Wyatts hype rolling, so this would make sense I feel. - WWE Intercontinental ChampionshipKevin Owens: They've really been building things back up for Owens and I could see him taking it back, even if it wasn't very long for Ambrose, then again I don't think Ryback had it for a super long time either, so maybe we will see it come back to him to get him up there, cause there's a lot of fan hype for the guy still. - WWE Divas ChampionshipBecky Lynch: I agree with the win, and I'll likely do the same with the bathroom break. It's sad, but the last match I saw with Becky and Charlotte like two weeks ago was awful. I know they are both better wrestlers, but I expecting nothing here. I always feel bad that Diva matches have become the universal "bathroom break" for people, but that's just how it is on the main roster. It's nothing compared to what goes on at NXT. - WWE Tag Team ChampionshipThe Usos: I think New Day is great, but yes, it's time for them to lose the belt. They need something new and more jokes isn't it. I think things have been building nicely for the Uso's after coming back and after winning at the Slammies, it seems right for them to get the belt. - WWE United States ChampionshipKalisto: Didn't know they had issues either, but I absolutely want to see Kalisto win, because I think he's a lot of fun to watch. Plus the "underdog" short guy versus the "bad guy" big guy is a good fight for the underdog to win lol WWE World Heavyweight Championship?: Had to wonder what you were talking about, then I realized who won the 2004 rumble...oof...I'm still unsure about this rumble. It makes sense that Roman wins, that is the safe bet. I hadn't thought of him getting help, but that absolutely makes sense too. I want to slightly counter this with the idea that the WWE can't play it to safe these days. They've had some reasonably low ratings lately, which is why I think things shifted in such a big way lately, with McMahon coming back to prominence and all these new wrestlers starting to show up (Very much so because of all the injuries too I think), and Reigns even getting the title after losing it from Sheamus. I feel like Reigns could lose it still, but we'll see. I'm hoping there's a big surprise more than just the new people showing up.
Lets keep the leaks out of here too for the rest of the night. Luckily it's just like 3 of us here discussing things, and Styles was too big of a possibility to show up, but I'm sure stuff will start to show up soon and I want this Rumble to be awesome and shocking.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 24, 2016, 03:11:33 pm
It sounds like Nakamura is not gonna make it in time for the Rumble, from all the reports I've been seeing. I personally know very little about the guy, but the hype train for the guy is going off the rails.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2016, 03:19:57 pm
It sounds like Nakamura is not gonna make it in time for the Rumble, from all the reports I've been seeing. I personally know very little about the guy, but the hype train for the guy is going off the rails.
I've only seen two matches with Nakamura, the last two Wrestle Kingdoms, but definitely go watch those if you can. Those got me crazy hyped for Nakamura. He just has a lot of style and character to him. Wrestling wise, he reminds me a good bit of Rollins, especially with all the knees and kicks.
But yeah I expect Nakamura to show up abit later. Spread out the hype. Styles coming in at the Rumble and then Nakamura maybe at an event before Wrestlemania.
Also Nakamura has a great theme lol
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Post by: burningdoom on January 24, 2016, 06:29:15 pm
Half-hour until we begin...
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2016, 06:48:00 pm
I just had to get some pizza, I got myself some rum and coke, and I'm passing time by watching OSW Review's go at Royal Rumble '92. If you love wrestling, they are great to listen/watch.
*EDIT* I just saw a recap of past Rumbles and apparently Roman won last year? I feel like it would be too much for Roman to not only keep his belt with this, start at number 1 and get through everyone, and then become a two time winner in a row. Again, Reigns winning is a safe bet, but I feel like he might lose.
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Post by: weirdfeline on January 24, 2016, 07:53:30 pm
I haven't watched Raw lately but I'm watching the Royal Rumble right now, hoping for a Daniel Bryan return tonight.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2016, 08:30:39 pm
Sorry, Doafan...It's still not Owens time lol
Okay, so far we've been pretty wrong. Now I don't know what it is going to happen.
Kalisto got it. A good match, though sadly had a couple flubs. Weren't match ruining though.
Eh, more Flair shenanigans. When it happens so often, to then have it be how she seems to win most of the time, it just gets dull. Sorta the same with New Day also.
And now Styles is in at #3! It begins! Even if Reigns wins, I want AJ to make it to the end. I swear, the fans are going to riot when Styles gets knocked out lol R Truth is always good for a laugh lol
The big downside of having a story going on in the Rumble, is that it ends up being about a story instead of the Rumble. This is one way to keep Roman out for abit. But it's pretty cheap since they'll just bring him back at the end to win. Styles was in there quite awhile, I thought he could go pretty far, but it was just a debut and he had some good spots to show what he has. Zayn! Guess he's maybe getting moved up here soon. All of these Wyatts in the match is kinda lame cause it's obvious they are gonna clear house. Unless THE BEAST can tear it up here...Which Brock can lol
I know it's Brock, but really? The two guys who won a trip to the Rumble at the start are chucked out RIGHT AWAY? Henry chucked out by the Wyatts and Swagger just gone.
I don't know what is going on anymore. All the Wyatts other than Bray gone? That's what the buildup was? Oh right, no DQ in a rumble. Glad Brock is out of this, didn't want him winning anyways.
Sadly no Daniel Bryan, but HHH is the last guy.
Holy shit, they actually did it. Romans knocked out! Amrbose versus HHH! I can't see how Ambrose wins, he's supposed to be wrecked from earlier and the Authority getting the championship is more obvious story...then again...Ambrose as both IC and WHC? And it's HHH...Hrmm...not sure. Might make for better story stuff up to Wrestlemania.
Overall, pretty good show other than the Diva's event and some flubs in Rio vs Kalisto. I just really hope Wrestlemania isn't going to end up being Reigns vs HHH.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 25, 2016, 01:01:25 pm
So, what was everyone's thoughts on the Rumble?
***SPOILERS AHEAD***
LOVED the match between Ambrose and Owens. That was mass chaos; chairs and tables everywhere! And I loved the two-table ending!
The Rumble itself was a lot of fun. I know people will be pissed about HHH winning it. But he was in top-form last night. That was The Game, as if he never skipped a beat from the Ruthless Aggression era. And it makes sense. Ambrose is out on injury. Lesnar was uncontrollable. And no one in The League of Nations is WWE Champion material. So storywise, it would make sense for The Authority to just decide to take matters into their own hands.
It was fantastic to see AJ Styles not only in the Rumble, but he also lasted a good while in there. Jericho lasted almost to the end, which was cool, as he's always been a favorite of mine. Lesnar being eliminated by the already eliminated (except Wyatt) Wyatt family was pretty freaking lame, I thought.
And I'm VERY glad Reigns didn't win it. It would have been stupid for him to be out of the match for 3/4 of the match just to come back and win it.
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Post by: weirdfeline on January 25, 2016, 01:51:31 pm
I enjoyed the PPV except for the winner of the Royal Rumble.
This just basically confirms that Roman Reigns will win a match at Fastlane that grants him a title shot against Triple H in the main even at WrestleMania and he will most likely win.
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Post by: doafan on January 25, 2016, 01:58:43 pm
WWE Intercontinental Championship: Damn it, but am still not gonna remove my avatar and signature, was so sure that KO would won the belt again, my wife saw the entire match at my side only because of the bet that we had now I have to paid her the most expensive tacos that you would ever taste, jezz Kevin you owe me a big one, anyways the match at my opinion was the best of the event and am happy that it was one the first one, at least the first one to be aired cause the Fatal Four Way wasn't.
WWE Tag Team Championship: My wife left the room after the first one but my daughter came to see the event with me, the match was good enough at this point started with the pizza and the wings, even when I don't want to admit it Xavier is a part important of this team, guess that they well lost the titles when this mothafucka is not near them.
WWE United States Championship: Totally knew it, in fact this was the only prediction that I made right, have to admit that Kalisto did a lot of mistakes at this match, guess that he was nervous but indeed it was a good fight, dunno why but got the feeling that some of Alberto's moves weren't fake, now let's see how many time will he wear the belt.
WWE Divas Championship: Went to the bathroom to threw some shit just to came to the room and see more shit again, can't believe that the ref never did anything about Rick Flair, come on every other ref would be sent him outta the ring or at least canceled the match, at least the ending was fair enough am and very pleased to saw Sasha kicking Charlotte's butt.
About the main event three of the five wrestlers that I predicted did their appearances, was almost screaming when AJ Styles was the number three but was most excited when Owens throw him out, my daughter asked me why the hell are you screaming at this point both my kid and my wife known that he is my favorite one but when El Generico I mean Sami Zain (http://www.wwe.com/videos/the-opponent-sami-zayn-finally-got-his-hands-on-at-royal-rumble-wwecom-exclusive-28595397) was announced totally knew that he will go for Kevin first, can't wait to see him at the roster, the event was good enough, my wife came to the room a couple of time to shut me up, for a moment got the idea that Jericho was to became the last one man on the ring also didn't saw when he throw Kofi Kingston outside the ring, R-Thruth was the most funniest of all of them, saw this one at Spanish and the commentators where laughing saying that the first thing that he will make was to get a ladder and that's exactly what he did, The Miz wasn't that stupid staying outside the ring for a while but we all knew that he will be thrown immediately, what the Wyatt Family did to Lesnar was the worst part and he was pissed off guess that there was no other way to take him out or if am wrong please explain me how the hell can they take out the beast, am very disappointed about the performance of Mark Henry and Jack Swagger both of them practically didn't did nothing, about the last man the rumors at the page that I mentioned before where true, damn guess that am gonna read their articles more often, need to see tonight's RAW show to see what happens next.
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Post by: nintendojuggalo on January 25, 2016, 03:41:32 pm
WWEkids sucks.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 27, 2016, 02:28:54 am
WWE could have a show that is just The Rock walking around backstage, talking with people in long shots, and it would be the best thing ever lol I know he's only gonna be around for special moments up till Wrestlemania and then whatever he does in Wrestlemania, but it'll be great to have him around. No one is nearly as charismatic and quick on the mic as him anymore, though I think it was great having him interact with the New Day, who are usually pretty entertaining.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 27, 2016, 12:39:24 pm
New Day has jumped the shark. They aren't funny anymore. They've taken their antics to ridiculous levels. Rock needs someone better to interact with.
I would LOVE to see a HHH vs. Rock rematch. Their rivalry was legendary. And their matches were brutal!
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 27, 2016, 09:11:15 pm
IT'S HAPPENING!
Nakamura is going to debut at Takeover Dallas on April 1, same weekend as Wrestlemania! He'll be battling Sami Zayn!
New Day has jumped the shark. They aren't funny anymore. They've taken their antics to ridiculous levels. Rock needs someone better to interact with.
I would LOVE to see a HHH vs. Rock rematch. Their rivalry was legendary. And their matches were brutal!
No and no.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 29, 2016, 03:56:08 pm
New Day are goofy, but they are basically the best personalities the WWE has right now lol They aren't 100% great all the time as some of their jokes flop, but overall, I've really grown to love them. It's funny how awful they use to be like a year ago.
Of course they don't compare to the Rock who basically KILLED that last RAW, but no many are that disgustingly charismatic lol
And as much as I think a Rock vs HHH could be kinda neat, definitely not for Wrestlemania. That belt needs to go to a regular guy since Rock is only part timing things right now
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Post by: doafan on January 29, 2016, 05:58:07 pm
I would LOVE to see a HHH vs. Rock rematch. Their rivalry was legendary. And their matches were brutal!
A friend at the office say's that The Rock still has a chance to reclaim the title so if the writers do things right we might gonna see this happen at Wrestlemania, still have my doubts about this but since the story is not right not at their best moment this idea will be the easy solution for those lazy writers.
Of course they don't compare to the Rock who basically KILLED that last RAW, but no many are that disgustingly charismatic lol
By the looks at Rock's eyes and by the way he said that they "Did That Exercises" it seems that he totally "killed" Lana that night at the Hotel, if you know what I mean, her expression when he mentioned the D.J. Mustache Ride totally got me, but the reaction of Rock when he saw Rusev was priceless ;D
Nakamura is going to debut at Takeover Dallas on April 1, same weekend as Wrestlemania! He'll be battling Sami Zayn!
Are they fucking serious ?, come one Nakamura needs to be at the main roster like AJ Stylez so what the hell is he going to do at NXT and most important why against Sami Zayn anyway I have heard or read don't remember right now cause am at work that Sami and Samoa are finally going to be part of the WWE, don't know in which division but can't wait for this to happen also what the hell is Kevin Owens doing at RAW, if am not wrong he was part of Smackdown.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 29, 2016, 10:04:19 pm
I think they are building up NXT to be bigger and Nakamura would certainly be part of that. Zayne will likely move over to the main show sometime later this year, though not sure if Joe will. He hasn't been in NXT long. I think once Zayne heads over, the top guys will end up being like Nakamura, Balor, Joe, and I guess Corbin maybe? I went to look at Hideo Itami who I never really saw because he got injured last year, but I guess he's cool, though he's having recovery issues that will be keeping him out for awhile longer. It'll be pretty epic down the road for Nakamura and AJ Styles to replay Wrestle Kingdom 10 when they get onto the main roster together.
Reading up on NXT, it's very possible that Zayn will head over after his fight with Nakamura. Nakamura would win, putting him over, and then Zayn goes to battle Owens. Bayley is likely going to move up soon to, so good chance she'll drop the belt to Asuka, which I'm all for, and then move to the main roster, though I worry about what that does to her, but you know what...It'll be great having an another actually likable babyface in the Divas. I noticed this the other day, but other than like Becky, all the other main roster female wrestlers are terrible people lol Charlotte, Paige, Banks, the Bellas, Alicia Fox, Naomi, Tamina...Natalie is another less regular I think, but she might at least not be heel? Not sure. It's just annoying that there seems to be so little variety, so that would be great to have Bayley there.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 08, 2016, 02:11:58 pm
Aw man, if this doesn't turn out to be a kayfabe spin, Daniel Bryan could be leaving WWE, possibly even wrestling entirely.
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Post by: doafan on February 08, 2016, 02:41:01 pm
Well that's really a bad new I heard about it this morning at the office and am still hoping that this announcement it is some kind of strategy but it seems to be pretty pretty real to me, will gonna see the interview at Off the top rope with Coachman (http://superluchas.com/2016/02/08/daniel-bryan-estara-manana-en-espn-para-hablar-de-su-retiro-thankyoudanielbryan/) to see if it was for medical instructions but indeed it's a damn shame, in the other hand haven't been able to see the past Raw and Smackdown even when I already have a copy of these two shows but what I saw was the match between Rusev and Lesnar, still wonder way this one wasn't aired ???
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 08, 2016, 04:54:16 pm
Apparently he had a more thorough concussion test last week, which would show the extent of his damage, which means this is likely real that he's having to retire. Apparently he turned down any other job at the company like announcer or just anything that doesn't involve wrestling, which sucks. I wonder if he might reconsider at all, since his wife is Brie Bella who is still with the company. Bad stuff. Nikki Bella has the possibility of never returning to wrestling herself.
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Post by: doafan on February 08, 2016, 05:11:54 pm
Apparently he turned down any other job at the company like announcer or just anything that doesn't involve wrestling, which sucks.
Wow that sounds pretty bad and totally sucks if he doesn't want to have anything with the wrestling, practically he will have to start from zero in something that he might not like, he can work training the new wrestlers, podcast or anything else, just see Stone Cold or Edge, really hope that he can change his mind and be a little more positive about his future cause he still have it.
The new about her surgery took me by surprise and now this, can you tell me more about this but most important how the hell she got the neck problem ?
All I know is that she had a herniated disk and her specific one was something that could very likely be career ending. She'll still be out for like 3 or 4 months, but after that, it's unsure if she'll be physically able to continue wrestling. I don't know if she got it any particular match or anything, it's just one of those that can happen.
*EDIT* Not sure when he'll say more, but the WWE is doing special stuff, even showing past career moments for Bryan on Raw, so it looks like it's 100% that he'll be retiring. Pretty bummed, I had hoped he would come back and I'd get to see him going up against Owens, Styles, and Nakamura.
Real heart tugger. I'll have to go back and watch some of his old stuff as I just never got the chance to see much of him.
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Post by: dointhangs on February 11, 2016, 12:48:44 am
Not sure when he'll say more, but the WWE is doing special stuff, even showing past career moments for Bryan on Raw, so it looks like it's 100% that he'll be retiring. Pretty bummed, I had hoped he would come back and I'd get to see him going up against Owens, Styles, and Nakamura.
Being honest haven't seen the latest shows but I did saw the small fragment that the channel of the WWE uploaded it to Youtube and Bryan was totally sad, dunno how the hell he didn't cried in public if I were in his position definitely I would have cried a lot, people/ fans really love him and I do hope that he can re consider being part of the company, one way or another wrestling is his life and it would be a shame if he totally retires from what he loves :'(
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Post by: doafan on February 20, 2016, 11:26:00 am
Fastlane event is almost here so before it happens am gonna share the official list of matches and my impressions:
* WWE United States Championship - Two out of three falls match Kalisto (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio: don't remember the last time that I saw a match like this one at the WWE, am familiar with this kind of matches cause I used to saw wrestling all Sunday mornings and since both wrestlers are Mexicans guess that they will know how to develop a good match, really hope that Kalisto can retain the belt. * WWE Divas Championship - Singles match Charlotte (with Ric Flair) vs. Brie Bella: don't have to say what am gonna do when this match occurs but I do want that Brie can win this one but most important want to see Daniel Bryan celebrating with her if she is able to win this match. * Tag team match Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks vs. Team B.A.D. (Naomi and Tamina): Since this i s a non belts match really don't understand what the hell they put it anyway am not gonna see it, barely know who the ladies are and what's the story behind it but am pretty sure that I won't gonna like it. * Six-man tag team match Ryback, Big Show and Kane vs. The Wyatt Family (Luke Harper, Erick Rowan and Braun Strowman) (with Bray Wyatt): no belts here too but really want to see a full match between them, to bad that it is a six-man instead of a eight-match, why ?, because am pretty damn sure that Bray is gonna help his family members one way or another, anyway want to see the Titans as the winners of this match. * Singles match AJ Styles vs. Chris Jericho: I should be more happy for this match but it appears that AJ it's Jericho exclusive wrestler also there are no belts here so what's the purpose of this one ?, just a personal and third match between this two, I do want to see Styles fighting another wrestlers (The Miz doesn't count) with different skills, weight or size, Jericho in my opinion is pure lame. * WWE Intercontinental Championship - Singles match Kevin Owens (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler: without a doubt this is the first reason why I'm gonna watch the event, K.O has just recently won the belt so I don't believe that he is gonna lose it so fast, am pretty sure that my wife and my little girl will go the room to see this one with me, my wife doesn't like him and my little girl already know that am a big fan of this fat dude. * Triple threat match to determine the #1 contender for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 32 Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman) : my impression is that Ambrose will won, he need to finish that match that he started with HHH at the Royal Rumble, why ?, cause it will be a good idea to start a feud with his brother in arms Reigns that will be a good story also don't expect Lesnar and Triple H at Wrestlemania, it will be not fair for the champ.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 20, 2016, 04:17:19 pm
Kalisto/Del Rio - Yeah I hope Kalisto can retain also. He's really likable even if he's not the best on the mic. I also hope after this that he can move on to fight other people. Much like with Styles vs Jericho, I want to see them fighting other people lol
Charlotte/Bella - I don't really like the Bella's and it's kind of an interesting matchup with two heels, but could be cool to see Bella take it with more of the sympathy on her side with Daniel Bryan retiring. Maybe they'll work her face after this since she needs something new to do with her sister laid up for months.
Womens Tag Team - I'm kinda hoping for something good with this. Becky and Sasha are good wrestlers, but I haven't seen a lot of great stuff lately in womens runs. Hoping they can kinda inject some NXT freshness into things.
Big Guy Match - Interesting mixture that makes sense. I'm kinda surprised it's not an 8 man setup also. Should've been someone like Mark Henry in there for a fourth. Could be something interesting here perhaps.
Styles/Jericho - I don't mind Jericho, but god damn yes this feud needs to move on. I want Styles in there with like Neville, or Kalisto. Or Kevin Owens! This is the perfect time after KO with the belt (Did I miss when this happened? I forget lol), for Styles to start feuding with him with Styles working to get the IC belt.
Owens/Ziggler - Yeah this is one I just want Owens to win. I don't hate Ziggler, but it's Owens and he should keep it so that Styles can fight over it.
Ambrose/Reigns/Lesnar - I'm way behind Ambrose on this. He's not only been building up as a huge fan favorite, I think Reigns had has time for now as champion, and I think it would be awesome for Ambrose to get his chance at the belt, maybe even win it. Then we'll see Rollins and Ambrose going at it after Rollins returns. HHH having it is good heat, but if they want to keep the company moving forward, the newer guys have to keep it more often.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 21, 2016, 08:34:49 pm
SPOILERS FOR FASTLANE
-Kalisto winning made sense and I thought it was a good match as usual. Now I just want to see Kalisto start moving on to other people.
-Sasha/Becky/Naomi/Tamina was actually better than I thought. They still sorta have a few problems with selling certain spots, but overall it was actually pretty good. I enjoyed it which is more than I can say for a lot of WWE's diva matches lately.
-It was clear KO was gonna win, but it was still a good match. A lot of hard hitting spots that looked good. I think the best thing now is that Styles wins at Fastlane and then goes to work his way to try to fight for the IC belt at Wrestlemania against KO. That would be great.
-Titans match was alright. Bunch of big guys throwing folks around.
-I like that Brie was showing support to her husband Bryan from the Yes chants to her wearing the same knee pads he wore from Wrestlemania 30. Not sure if she's going face with this, but I'm cool with this being her direction. Would be better than the bitchy mean girl she was with her sister before. She can really work with it too with the sympathy she's getting because of Bryan and Nikki. Sadly, her win didn't happen. Bit of a bummer, but I think they are leaving it for Wrestlemania.
-Called this one right and man it was a good match. Lots of good spots and Jericho, who can be abit on the sluggish side these days, did great. They looked like they were wrecking themselves. Really hoping Styles and KO is gonna happen now.
-Usually shenanigans like this New Day/Christian & Edge bit should be left to Raw, but they are great together lol
-Random match of Axel versus R Truth...Kay. Though it does connect with that weird thing of Golddust wanting to join up with R Truth lol
-Shit. Reigns won it. I was really hoping it was gonna be Ambros. Lots of fan backlash on this one, lots of boos. Was a fun match, but everyone clearly wanted one of the other two.
*EDIT* It's 100% official now, Nakamura is a part of WWE NXT. I'm probably more excited for this than anything maybe going on at Wrestlemania lol
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Post by: doafan on February 22, 2016, 02:25:23 pm
Kalisto (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio: was excited about this one but unfortunately it wasn't part of the main show, later that night I saw at the WWE Channel that this match was part of the Kickoff event so will gonna watch the show tonight after work, it's already at Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1sWDLnU-I) Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks vs. Team B.A.D. (Naomi and Tamina): ended watching this one when I was eating pizza and wings with my wife and was kinda surprised that actually it wasn't bad match, my wife ended loving Naomi shoes and now because of her need to know where the hell can I find ones for her. Kevin Owens (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler: love the entire match and the results of this one of course, the only complain that I have about it's that I expected this match to be one of the latest ones, gotta love the "exclusive interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKupBfbebY)" and the fake plant. Ryback, Big Show and Kane vs. The Wyatt Family (Luke Harper, Erick Rowan and Braun Strowman) (with Bray Wyatt): kinda surprised that Bray didn't did anything to help his family but even Kane took care of him, totally love it, am currently downloading my copy of the event to see a couple of things again and this part is one of them. Charlotte (with Ric Flair) vs. Brie Bella: disappointed that Brie wasn't wearing a thong and that's all I can say about this match and the fact that Daniel Bryan didn't made an appearance at the event, really hope that he can consider the fact of being completely retired. AJ Styles vs. Chris Jericho: didn't watch this one because my wife came to the room and told me before the match started that she was about to go to the shower, it was more a suggestion to join her so that's the reason that I missed this one and I don't regret it ;D Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman) : even when it was the main fight I don't like the results, predictable ?, yes but still I don't like it, now want to see tonight's Raw to see Lesnar reaction, well Paul's reaction cause the beast is not that good with the mic.
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Post by: burningdoom on February 22, 2016, 02:46:44 pm
WrestleMania just got a whole lot less exciting with Roman Reigns winning. But the match to decide it, was awesome. They literally buried Lesnar, that was awesome!
And the IC title match, damn that was one helluva match. Ziggler is so underrated. Him and Owens gave a clinic out there!
Styles vs. Jericho was also awesome. Saw Jericho pull off some stuff I haven't seen from him in a while. And of course Styles was stellar out there.
Speaking of pulling stuff off, that battle of the titans match between the giants and Wyatt family was more exciting that I would have thought. Big guys pulling off some small-guy moves. Quite entertaining.
Hell, even the Divas match was good. Real wrestling going on there, not your average slap and kick fight we normally get in the Divas division.
All and all, a great PPV IMO, despite that shit ending.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 23, 2016, 04:21:56 pm
So that was a surprise, Shane McMahon is back. I was kinda cool with it, but apparently he's now fighting Undertaker at Wrestlemania for control of Raw, in a "Hell in a Cell" match. Good story stuff, but I guess unless he's been training, I'm curious if this will really be anything "Wrestlemania" worthy.
Also, it's not just us that hates Reigns winning, the disgust was STRONG on Raw till Shane came in lol I have to wonder if they plan to screw over Reigns somehow at Wrestlemania. Sure it'll be the second time for him in a row on Wrestlemania, but it's essentially "Smash Glass in Case of Emergency" button. People didn't want him winning before, they don't want him winning now. I saw something great that perhaps after Fastlane, Ambrose has had it with Reigns and it's them falling out to the point that Ambrose causes Reigns to lose to HHH or get disqualified. Usually you want Wrestlemania for the big wins, but people really are tired of the Reigns push...AGAIN...for like the third or fourth time now. It's like they do well building him back up to be liked, which happened when he properly won the belt, but since he lost it, no one wants him to get it again. I think people are just tired of him and want other people making that push for the belt.
Forcing someone to be "THE GUY", doesn't work. They kept doing it with Cena and now people really hate the guy. Honestly...even if I hate to admit it, I might slightly like Cena more and this is a guy who I think doesn't sell for shit. He's stiff and predicatable. Roman has him beat I feel in that, he just looks better wrestling, but Roman doesn't have half the charisma Cena does. Now if Reigns was more like his cousin, The Rock, having that magnetic personality he does, maybe things would be different.
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Post by: burningdoom on February 23, 2016, 11:08:00 pm
Now that's how Raw is done! Damn that was a helluva show! It started off with a bang, it ended with a bang, and everything in-between was entertaining. I actually sat through the entire thing, in one sitting, eyes-glued to the screen.
I hope this is the beginning of a new WWE, and not just a one episode fluke.
Anyone else enjoy Raw as much as I did?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 24, 2016, 12:50:25 am
Now that's how Raw is done! Damn that was a helluva show! It started off with a bang, it ended with a bang, and everything in-between was entertaining. I actually sat through the entire thing, in one sitting, eyes-glued to the screen.
I hope this is the beginning of a new WWE, and not just a one episode fluke.
Anyone else enjoy Raw as much as I did?
I haven't finished it, but I generally know what happened. I'm kinda hoping this is them picking up steam towards Wrestlemania. It was weak for abit last year till McMahon appeared again and kinda riled things up, now another McMahon comes in and riles it all up more. Gotta like the admission of Raw not doing very great so I'm curious to see if they are trying to do a big creative push to get things sorted out. The last time they pushed Reigns and it failed, they basically threw him under the bus for awhile and I'm kinda hoping they do the same here and make it so he loses at Wrestlemania again.
I'm kinda hoping that HHH wins it, Shane wins his match (It's the Undertaker...How? I don't know lol), and we get this big power struggle and then on Raw after that, Rollins returns and goes for a shot at the title and wins. And then it isn't Rollins with HHH, Stephanie, and Vince, but Rollins sides with the man running Raw, making him Shanes boy. League of Nations could still be with the Authority. And maybe they do something new with Reigns as an outsider.
I don't think they need Reigns to go heel, they'll never do it like that, but have him go renegade. Drop the walk down the steps entrance, drop the body armor vest in favor of just like...Shirtless or regular tank top or something, dropping the last remnants of the Shield...and have him become like Brock. Just this guy is tired of all the crap and trashing everyone he's up against. They tried to do that angle when he beat HHH and punched McMahon and the lead up to that, but it was so weakly done, because he was still the same guy.
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Post by: doafan on February 24, 2016, 11:34:37 am
Same here but if he won that will only probe that the storyline (at least in my personal opinion) is pure crap, it was predictable that HHH will won at Royal Rumble also it's lame that he was able to won the belt without doing practically nothing, sad but true, I had the idea that he only wants to be the main character and that's why I'll be at the main fight at Wrestlemania and that's all, don't see the game as a wrestler right now and being honest miss the old version of him, really hope that Ambrose appears at that match but not to help his friend, instead of this making Reings to lose by disqualification so that way they can start a feud, what about the belt ?, dunno why but the title doesn't mean everything for me right now it's kinda of a joke.
Shane wins his match (It's the Undertaker...How? I don't know lol
Wait, what ?, you have doubts about the skills of Mr. Money ...
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Post by: burningdoom on February 24, 2016, 12:58:30 pm
^ Shane has had some of the coolest spots in wrestling history, the guy is insane. But he's still not a wrestler. While on the other hand, Undertaker is booked to be one of the strongest wrestlers in history. So to have Shane fight him, is kind of ridiculous. But I'll look past it, just because I'm happy he's back.
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Post by: burningdoom on February 24, 2016, 02:08:42 pm
Am I the only one that thinks it's kind of ridiculous that Shane is facing Undertaker? Don't get me wrong, Shane being back is awesome, but still.
Yeah, Shane has competed before, but he's still not a wrestler. While on the other hand, Undertaker has been booked to be one of the most dominate wrestlers of all-time. This just feels like a completely lopsided battle and makes little sense.
Vince McMahon also competed before, despite not being a wrestler. But I can understand, due to his age, not wanting to do that again. But then why not just have Shane nominate a wrestler to represent him the same way Vince has? I'm hoping that it changes to this. If it does...who do you think should represent Shane?
There has been rumors all over that Goldberg is interested in returning for one final run. And who wouldn't want to see Goldberg vs. Undertaker? That would sell some tickets!
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Post by: weirdfeline on February 24, 2016, 05:06:04 pm
Shane looks pretty old.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 24, 2016, 06:43:55 pm
Abit, but I think he's actually younger or around the same age when his dad Vince was doing stuff in the ring back with Austin and such, and back then also, Shane was willing to do some ridiculous stuff as seen in that video when he was young, though it doesn't make him a wrestler lol Man, going back through those spots he did, he's done stuff that even wrestlers don't do anymore. He was less of a wrestler and more of a stuntman lol
But yeah it's completely ridiculous that Shane is fighting the Undertaker, so I'm wondering how this is gonna go. It's possible he's been training to handle at least some of a fight, but I could see him getting a replacement...despite all signs point to The Rock NOT fighting at Wrestlemania, so he's out. The Goldberg rumor is now that he isn't going to fight either. Not sure if there is anyone substantial enough on the roster for an Undertaker fight right now that people would like, so I think it has to be someone coming back for at least one more fight, just not sure who.
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Post by: doafan on February 24, 2016, 06:48:40 pm
Am I the only one that thinks it's kind of ridiculous that Shane is facing Undertaker? Don't get me wrong, Shane being back is awesome, but still.
I do share your opinion but it's been a while since the last time I saw in of a match so really don't care if it is with Taker, Cena or Triple H, the thing is that he's back and can't wait to see if he still able to perform those insane jumps also his entrance song is one of my top 10 favorites, ♫ Here come the money ♫
Vince McMahon also competed before, despite not being a wrestler. But I can understand, due to his age, not wanting to do that again. But then why not just have Shane nominate a wrestler to represent him the same way Vince has? I'm hoping that it changes to this. If it does...who do you think should represent Shane?
Why not this little fella (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Goldberg) ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 01, 2016, 01:08:33 am
I like the tone shift we've been seeing. Nikki Bella played as more of a face. Ryback coming out to really be the "Big Guy", taking no shit, kinda reminding me of a Goldberg or Lesnar type which makes him far more intimidating. Dudley Boys as the heels, though they still have some of their schtick going on and I feel if they were trying to downplay the "nostalgia", they'd try a new look, in kayfabe that is. Big Show is face? Alrighty lol And HHH going nuts on Roman and Dean is kinda cool. Combine that with Shane back and it makes for abit of freshness to the show that it hasn't had for awhile, especially since things felt like they were stagnating abit with all the injuries that have happened.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 01, 2016, 12:41:51 pm
Last night wasn't quite as exciting as last week. But I like the continuation of the edgy-tone they are pushing. And Shane-O-Mac is back next week!
Undertaker's motivation for fighting Shane is quite weak, though. Just because Vince said-so? It seems his character should have a problem with that. But nope, he just walks out, basically says I'm going to tear him apart, and leaves. Yeah, great writing there.
I'm really liking the team Y2AJ. My guess is that The Dudleyz win the titles from New Day next week. And then we'll have The Dudleyz vs. Y2AJ at WrestleMania for the titles. We'll see...
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Post by: doafan on March 01, 2016, 01:44:22 pm
I'm really liking the team Y2AJ. My guess is that The Dudleyz win the titles from New Day next week. And then we'll have The Dudleyz vs. Y2AJ at WrestleMania for the titles
+1 also we need more matches for the main event which by the way as far as I know there are only two official matches, three if we count the one of the divas but this one is not official yet about the last Smackdown the match between The Big Show vs. Kevin Owens was unexpected as well the way how the battle ended, glad that we had a rematch at RAW where the Big Show had his payback just wonder if we are going to have a third match ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on March 01, 2016, 01:51:58 pm
^ Well of course, both men are even right now, so we have to have a Big Show vs. KO match again.
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Post by: doafan on March 01, 2016, 02:01:46 pm
Really hope that we can have the rematch at the next show and not at Wrestlemania, by the way what the hell is Owens doing at Raw ?, wasn't he supposed to be part of the roster of Smackdown :-\
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Post by: burningdoom on March 01, 2016, 02:03:58 pm
Raw and Smackdown haven't had separate rosters for years.
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Post by: doafan on March 01, 2016, 02:16:40 pm
Damn it, guess that I miss those old days where we had rosters for each show and we had fights between companies, hope that we can have this kind of fights again if Shane takes control of RAW 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 01, 2016, 06:15:17 pm
Yeah I wasn't sure about the AJ and Jericho teamup, but I think Jericho is working extra hard lately to look good with AJ. I remember him being abit slower when he came back, but alot of his moves are looking good.
Also I think AJ Styles has one of the best looking punches in the business right now with that high flying drop punch. It makes Reigns punch look like a joke lol
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Post by: doafan on March 02, 2016, 09:19:27 pm
This is quite unexpected but there will be another event before Wrestlemania and it will be exclusively of the WWE Network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Network), am talking about Roadblock (http://www.wwe.com/shows/roadblock) it will take place this next March 12 where at the moment two matches has been officially announced, have to admit that never heard of this one before but in my opinion they should better focus at April's main event we are almost one month before this one and only four matches has been announced
Triple H (c) vs. Dean Ambrose, Singles match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship The Revival (Dash Wilder and Scott Dawson) vs. Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady, Tag team match for the NXT Tag Team Championship
Triple H vs. Roman Reigns, Singles match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship The Undertaker vs. Shane McMahon, Hell in a Cell match; if Shane wins he gets control of Raw. Dean Ambrose vs. Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman), No Holds Barred Street Fight Charlotte (c) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks, Triple Threat Match for the Divas Championship where if Ric Flair interfere during the match, Charlotte automatically will lose her title.
There are also some rumors at the web page that I follow where they had some some pretty bizarre ideas for another matches and have to say that I totally love them, a fight between Aj Styles vs Kevin Owens for the Intercontinental Championship isn't bad and it will be fucking awesome cause if we remember KO was the one who throw outta the ring AJ at Royal Rumble so yhet can continue the feud but the match that really expect to happen is a Tag Team between Jericho and AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn, yeah I know it's kinda impossible but I don't lose the hope.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 03, 2016, 12:37:14 am
Interesting for them to shoehorn another event in out of the blue. I'm not against it, but after reading an article, it does show a lot of the problems they are having right now. HHH vs Ambrose is pointless. For one, it kinda reopens the wound that Ambrose will not be fighting HHH at Mania. Most people wanted him or Lesnar over Reigns by a big margin. It's also incredibly obvious that Ambrose is gonna lose. He's set to fight at Mania against Lesnar, that's where the heat is building, and the top brass want HHH vs Reigns to headline. It's most likely HHH is going to get beat up to the point that Ambrose looks like he could win, but Lesnar runs in and disqualifies him so that he can guarantee his match against Ambrose. There is no goodwill built here to not make the fans boo Reigns at Wrestlemania.
Oh well, whatever lol Either we are in for a crazy twist, or we see WWE build up no extra hype for Wrestlemania, making that match pointless.
As for the other match, kinda curious if Enzo and Colin will take the belts. The talk was that they were likely gonna move up the roster to the main show. Maybe they take the belts, hold onto them as they debut on the main show, get like a month with the belts before losing them and then sticking to the main roster.
Zayn does seem to be confirmed to show up at Wrestlemania. I'm curious if we'll see him show up in the next month to get that rivalry with Owens going again and have him give a shot at the IC belt at Mania. Don't think Owens has any real beef going on right now with anyone more than usual, so this is probably perfect. I imagine Owens will still retain, but make it all big enough to keep the heat going afterwards.
*EDIT* The more I think about it, the more I really want Ambrose vs Reigns. Ambrose wins and in the process it breaks Reigns. Play with the crowd hate he gets, maybe even turn him heel, have him be tired of getting screwed over, now at 2 Wrestlemanias. I know it won't happen, because they built him up as the family loving, great father, good friend, almost super babyface (Cause he does totally like heel/anti-hero type stuff sometimes). They spent too much time on that to shift him and I don't think he has the acting chops, unless they play him more as like a silent bruiser like Brock. But I think it would be great. Give him an outfit change, nothing major, but a noticeable shift, and a new entrance that doesn't have him being friendly in the crowd. They were kinda on this path as this anti-authority, "I will destroy everyone", type of guy with the lead up to his belt win, punching McMahon, trashing HHH, I think they could've done it then. Push the heel angle for awhile, 6 months or longer, and try to then have his friends and family try to redeem him in some way. Actually build up Roman right before trying to shove him down our throats lol Put him in the pits for a good year and if the fans take to it, then maybe next Wrestlemania he has another shot where people actually care.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 07, 2016, 01:37:30 pm
Looking forward to tonight's Raw!
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Post by: doafan on March 07, 2016, 01:56:36 pm
+2 also am wondering if the rumor that Mick Foley will be back to Raw this next 14th it's true and more important if he gonna ally with Shane or it will be his personal trainer against the dead mad, I read this one at my favorite Mexican wrestling page (http://superluchas.com/2016/03/06/bang-bang-mick-foley-regresara-a-wwe-sera-aliado-de-shane-mcmahon-en-wrestlemania-32/) and these dudes have predicted a couple of good things 8)
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Post by: burningdoom on March 07, 2016, 02:00:06 pm
+2 also am wondering if the rumor that Mick Foley will be back to Raw this next 14th it's true and more important if he gonna ally with Shane or it will be his personal trainer against the dead mad, I read this one at my favorite Mexican wrestling page (http://superluchas.com/2016/03/06/bang-bang-mick-foley-regresara-a-wwe-sera-aliado-de-shane-mcmahon-en-wrestlemania-32/) and these dudes have predicted a couple of good things 8)
Well considering how incredibly badly he got his ass kicked by Undertaker in Hell in a Cell, I don't know if that's a good thing for Shane, lol.
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Post by: doafan on March 07, 2016, 02:07:38 pm
Well considering how incredibly badly he got his ass kicked by Undertaker in Hell in a Cell, I don't know if that's a good thing for Shane, lol.
Or maybe he will be an special referee, money can buy anything this days but that's besides the point anyway a new match has been announced for the Roadblock event:
Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman) vs. Bray Wyatt (with Luke Harper, Erick Rowan and Braun Strowman) Singles match
No belts in the lane but I guess it will be fun to see Lesnar's butt kicked again by the family ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 08, 2016, 12:04:12 am
Kinda odd, but it may seem like Gallows and Anderson, alongside Finn Balor, could be coming up to Raw before Wrestlemania 32, with them not going to NXT. This doesn't mean entirely only working on the main show right away as I think Owens still did some NXT stuff till moving over completely. I say that because I think they would be missing out on a Nakamura vs Balor match for sure if they did this lol
I missed Raw tonight cause the damn thing didn't record, but I saw that they are building up Zayne coming to the main roster! He came out to help Neville against Owens. He could even be in it for a shot at the IC belt against Owens at Wrestlemania, possibly turning it into a big group thing for the belt perhaps against some of the other roster, basically what it was like at the last Wrestlemania for the IC belt.
And Jericho has turned on Styles, likely meaning another match of Styles vs Jericho...THE FUCK IS WITH THIS?! Why do we need them to be fighting against each other constantly? I thought the teamup could've been kinda fun for abit, but why is Styles forced to feud with him this much? I want Styles to get some other opponents in there! This is an obnoxious feud lol
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Post by: doafan on March 10, 2016, 02:09:56 pm
And Jericho has turned on Styles, likely meaning another match of Styles vs Jericho...THE FUCK IS WITH THIS?! Why do we need them to be fighting against each other constantly? I thought the teamup could've been kinda fun for abit, but why is Styles forced to feud with him this much? I want Styles to get some other opponents in there! This is an obnoxious feud lol
Downloaded this show but being honest haven't seen this match, was only interested in Samy Zain appearance at Raw, had the idea that the prediction from Super Luchas was about to become true, am talking about the possible match again these two versus Jericho and Styles at Wrestlemania but it seems that this will never gonna happen, damn dunno why we have to see again this feud again but it's kinda lame cause at least in my opinion they solved things and they proved their capabilities also these two as a team they have a lot of possibilities, possibilities that practically have been thrown to the trash can, damn I need to get a job as a writer of WWE, got the felling that these bastards had the same writers as Krusty the Clown anyway only want to know if Samy will be the main contender for the IC Championship but still have my doubts about this one, as far as I remember he is supposed to defend the title in a multi-man match at the big event :-\
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 10, 2016, 08:25:35 pm
Nice surprise on Smackdown! Neville/Zayn vs Miz/Owens! Looks like this is Zayn coming into the main roster for sure now, likely the next Takeover before Wrestlemania his last big push on NXT. Also go check out his last match against Samoa Joe on Wednesday. Does this cool looking DDT on Joe through the corner ropes to the outside.
Hoping we get another surprise on the show since it's the last one before Roadblock this weekend.
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Post by: doafan on March 11, 2016, 11:30:16 am
Nice surprise on Smackdown! Neville/Zayn vs Miz/Owens! Looks like this is Zayn coming into the main roster for sure now, likely the next Takeover before Wrestlemania his last big push on NXT. Also go check out his last match against Samoa Joe on Wednesday. Does this cool looking DDT on Joe through the corner ropes to the outside.
Since when the Miz started to team up with Owens ?, saw the preview of this match at the WWE channel at Youtube but appears that KO refused to fight with Sami, did he actually fight at this match ?, being honest I do not want to download the show if the fat boy didn't wrestle >:(
Another match has been announced for the Roadblock event, have to admit that am more interested in this one that at the main one:
The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods) (c) vs. The League of Nations (Sheamus and King Barrett) (with Alberto Del Rio and Rusev) - Tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 11, 2016, 01:58:52 pm
Nice surprise on Smackdown! Neville/Zayn vs Miz/Owens! Looks like this is Zayn coming into the main roster for sure now, likely the next Takeover before Wrestlemania his last big push on NXT. Also go check out his last match against Samoa Joe on Wednesday. Does this cool looking DDT on Joe through the corner ropes to the outside.
Since when the Miz started to team up with Owens ?, saw the preview of this match at the WWE channel at Youtube but appears that KO refused to fight with Sami, did he actually fight at this match ?, being honest I do not want to download the show if the fat boy didn't wrestle >:(
Another match has been announced for the Roadblock event, have to admit that am more interested in this one that at the main one:
The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods) (c) vs. The League of Nations (Sheamus and King Barrett) (with Alberto Del Rio and Rusev) - Tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
Yeah they fought. There were some good spots, but as usual with KO, he plays the diva and runs off when getting his ass beat lol Don't know why Miz was with Owens though as I missed the setup for the match. I'm guessing they just needed a heel participant and Miz was around.
Heel vs Heel could be kinda fun for this tag team match, but the problem with this is that there is no way they'll lose it to this nothing event, just like Ambrose isn't going to win against HHH. Kinda makes this whole event a little annoying, but I'm still interested to watch. I know there has to be something to put a spin on Wrestlemania, I'm just not sure what.
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Post by: doafan on March 11, 2016, 02:16:38 pm
Yeah they fought. There were some good spots, but as usual with KO, he plays the diva and runs off when getting his ass beat lol
As a Owens fan it's for me hard to admit it but you are right, kinda disappointed but still want to see him defending his title at Wrestlemania, by the way there are a lot of rumors that this but it has not been officially announced, at least not yet.
Heel vs Heel could be kinda fun for this tag team match, but the problem with this is that there is no way they'll lose it to this nothing event, just like Ambrose isn't going to win against HHH.
Was reading a couple of minutes ago that the New Day have reached yesterday the 200 days as the Tag Team champions so I guess you are correct and these won't gonna lose the belts, at least not in this event I was expecting to see them defending the titles against Jericho and AJ at Wrestlemania but that will be impossible, damn it also haven't noticed that you haven't mentioned anything about Titus O'Neil, what the hell happened, why is he suspended ?
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Post by: zenimus on March 11, 2016, 03:01:10 pm
Titus O'Neil, what the hell happened, why is he suspended ?
At the very end of the episode of RAW when Daniel Bryan retired, as Vince walked through the crowd of wrestlers towards the entrance ramp, apparently Titus O'Neil jokingly grabbed Vince's arm. Vince didn't seem to be in the mood for jokes and pushed back. Allegedly Titus got suspended for "unprofessional conduct" as a warning to others to cut down on backstage antics.
It's possible there's more to it. Titus may have been scolded backstage and lost his cool, blowing this issue up bigger than it should've been, but we'll never know.
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Post by: doafan on March 11, 2016, 05:29:36 pm
And that's all ?, maybe am to stupid but I really don't understand what the hell did he mean with "unprofessional conduct" ?, as far as I understand they were trying to cheer up Daniel for his retirement so it's kinda normal that Titus was trying to play even with Vince, it wasn't a funeral so really don't understand whats the big deal also it's not something new that he's kinda the funny/cool guy, that's bullshit anyway am hoping that he is not being released just because of this incident.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 11, 2016, 07:04:55 pm
He supposedly grabbed his arm to hold him back to let Stephanie go first in a "ladies first" kind of way and Vince apparently overreacted and suspended him for a couple months. He's not going anywhere, he just basically got a slap on the wrist for something kinda dumb and it probably only happened because it happened out in public view.
I'm positive New Day lose their belts at Wrestlemania, because it would kinda refresh them abit as their act is getting a smidge stale. I love them, I think they are some of the best things happening in WWE in terms of character and comedy, but saying "booty" can only go so far lol I'm not sure who gets the opportunity though since there hasn't been any build up, other than Y2AJ, which has fallen apart.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 12, 2016, 02:59:03 am
Bleh, apparently League of Nations is the current possible team for New Day at Wrestlemania, but rumor has it that it could be turned into a multi-team match. Not sure who, but I assume it would be the biggest tag teams, so New Day vs League of Nations (If it's two on two), vs Dudley Boys, vs Uso's. I don't know who wins it in this. League of Nations would be kinda lame. Dudley Boys I feel lost their chance after they dropped that early tag team championship run when they came back. No build up for it now other than their current story is "WE ARE UPSET BECAUSE OUR NOSTALGIA ACT IS BEING CONSIDERED A NOSTALGIA ACT". Uso's are a possibility, though I'm not really super fond of them, though that bit at TLC last year was amazing.
So I really don't know who is going to win this one or who I want to win this one other than I hope New Day lose it, for story reasons. Dudley's might be great to take it if they use the opportunity to revamp themselves abit. They are going heel, dropping some of their gimmicks, I think they should straight up change their design abit, try something new for awhile to see how it goes.
Sidenote, I'm kinda hoping Lana is turning into a wrestler. That way Rusev can come out in a suit and push her on in matches and they basically become a wrestler/manager duo for each other lol So bummed I missed Rusev and Lana's big push from back in 2014. I came in at Wrestlemania last year, which was the end of Rusev's reign and right into that miserable love triangle, square, bullshit.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 12, 2016, 09:37:12 pm
Well a pretty uneventful event tonight. Nothing particularly bad, but I've called the wins so far. It's obvious who the winners will be as no belts are going to change on this and certain people are just clearly going to win. Now we got Sami Zayn vs Stardust. Random matchup, but I like Stardust, so I'll take it lol
I almost want there to be a chance that Ambrose vs HHH goes in Ambrose favor, but it's like a 1% chance lol
Good fight, but nope. Every match went how it was expected. Kind of a useless event lol
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Post by: burningdoom on March 13, 2016, 11:41:32 am
The matches themselves were excellent back-and-forth nail-biters. Can't complain about that. But the entire point of the event was meaningless. The whole idea was to shake things up before WrestleMania, yet nothing has changed by the end of it.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 13, 2016, 04:12:04 pm
Definitely some good matches and they really drug out HHH and Ambrose long enough to make it feel like they could just possibly let Ambrose win, but nah. Wasn't much of a "Roadblock"...more of a "Yield Sign" that brings you to slow down, check the road for cars, but don't actually stop, and then just keep on trucking to Wrestlemania lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 16, 2016, 01:27:39 pm
Damn, now Neville is out on the injured list, meaning he'll miss being involved in anything in Wrestlemania. That really sucks. The injury list is way too high.
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Post by: doafan on March 16, 2016, 02:38:45 pm
Dunno how but I managed to avoid this thread two days in a row, didn't wanted to read any spoiler because I was unable to see the show the day it was aired, saw it yesterday with my daughter and I do have to say that there where two matches that weren't aired, Mark Henry vs. Randy Sharp and Goldust vs. Viktor about the rest of the matches am glad that the New Day retained the titles was surprised that the rest of the League of Nations were there to cheer their comrades, the match of Jericho was the most boring of the entire show actually was sleeping when I was watching this one in the other hand the one from the NXT was kinda interesting cause Colin Cassady is a fucking beast, the one of the divas was nice actually was expecting that Natalya won the belt anyway it's only me or Charlotte had gained some extra weight, about the match between Lesnar and Wyatt I had the idea that the match would be between these two, didn't knew it was to be a two versus one but it ended in one vs one, in my opinion the best one of the event was the one of Sami Sayn, yeah it took a while to defeat Goldust but it was fun and enjoyable, the result of course was predictable as also the one of the main event, being honest didn't liked how it ended even when it was an enjoyable match.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 16, 2016, 09:06:05 pm
Man, and now Bray Wyatt is said to be on the injured list. WWE is falling apart! Over the next month or two, I think a few are supposed to return, but man it's a lot. Cesaro, Cena, Orton, Wyatt, Neville, Rollins, and I think there are some more than I'm forgetting.
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Post by: doafan on March 17, 2016, 11:24:08 am
Man, and now Bray Wyatt is said to be on the injured list.
Come on, injured by who and when ?, he didn't wrestle against Lesnar, the one that should be at that injured list is the poor Luke Harper (LOL) anyway isn't Orton filming a movie or it's actually injured anyway the article of Wrestlemania 32 from has the following four matches for this event ...
André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, 30-man Battle Royal for the André the Giant Memorial Trophy The Usos (Jimmy and Jey Uso) vs. The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley), Tag team match The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) vs. The League of Nations (Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, Rusev and King Barrett) 4-on-3 Handicap match for the WWE Tag Team Championship Kalisto (c) vs. Ryback singles match for the WWE United States Championship
... but it seems that is not updated cause another three matches had been announced.
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz vs. Big Show. for the Intercontinental Championship Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles. Brie Bella, Alicia Fox y Paige vs. Lana, Tamina Snuka y Naomi.
Can't wait to see the one for the Tag Team Championship, three against four it will be quite interesting but without a doubt the one that now I want to see the most is the one for the Intercontinental Championship and not only because Sami Zayn is there it's because want to see the mess that the Big Show is gonna made there ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 17, 2016, 02:35:51 pm
Come on, injured by who and when ?, he didn't wrestle against Lesnar, the one that should be at that injured list is the poor Luke Harper (LOL) anyway isn't Orton filming a movie or it's actually injured anyway the article of Wrestlemania 32 from has the following four matches for this event ...
André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, 30-man Battle Royal for the André the Giant Memorial Trophy The Usos (Jimmy and Jey Uso) vs. The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley), Tag team match The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) vs. The League of Nations (Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, Rusev and King Barrett) 4-on-3 Handicap match for the WWE Tag Team Championship Kalisto (c) vs. Ryback singles match for the WWE United States Championship
... but it seems that is not updated cause another three matches had been announced.
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz vs. Big Show. for the Intercontinental Championship Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles. Brie Bella, Alicia Fox y Paige vs. Lana, Tamina Snuka y Naomi.
Can't wait to see the one for the Tag Team Championship, three against four it will be quite interesting but without a doubt the one that now I want to see the most is the one for the Intercontinental Championship and not only because Sami Zayn is there it's because want to see the mess that the Big Show is gonna made there ;D
That's why Bray didn't wrestle at Roadblock. Plot wise it worked for Bray to have Harper go in there for him, but that's why he is only making appearances and not wrestling.
Also I really hope this is the last Jericho vs Styles match. It's so dumb now lol
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Post by: doafan on March 17, 2016, 08:47:32 pm
That's why Bray didn't wrestle at Roadblock. Plot wise it worked for Bray to have Harper go in there for him, but that's why he is only making appearances and not wrestling.
That explains everything anyway it's a shame that a lot of wrestlers are injured when the main event of the company is less that one month near also and being honest from the 11 matches I only want to see three of them so will need to do something else when these matches are aired, is kinda funny cause this morning was watching this picture and I kinda imagine how Vince is feeling right now :
Also I really hope this is the last Jericho vs Styles match. It's so dumb now lol
Totally agree, if they continue scheduling matches between these two they will be reaching a point where the fans will take them both of these wrestler as a mere joke, can't believe that the writers are not capable of creating a good story even the damn monkeys that write the lines for Krusty the clown can made something better.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 18, 2016, 02:59:25 am
Not to long after Bryans retirement, it's being shown to be that Sting is officially retiring himself. He got injured in his battle against Rollins awhile back, but it seems it was serious enough, probably combined with his age and other past injuries, to warrant him retiring. At least he's being inducted to the Hall of Fame this year. That's a big way to go out so that whole weekend is gonna be a big deal for Sting.
Also this might be my most excited for match on Mania weekend lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 22, 2016, 05:41:52 am
Man, just when Bray Wyatt's rumored injury was looking to not be a thing, Luke Harper has now had an actual injury after RAW went dark that could keep him out for awhile. If it's as serious as it could seem to be, it might even keep him out of Wrestlemania. Rowen came back from an injury last year also. Poor Wyatt Family can't get no break on their trip to starting the apocalypse. I like Harper. Out of the 4 in the group, him and Wyatt are the most interesting and he's actually a pretty good wrestler. He's surprisingly quick for his size. Rowan I feel tries abit too hard and doesn't really have the ring skill and Brahn is huge and intimidating, but as a big guy, he doesn't have a lot going on. Kinda like a less interesting Kane.
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Post by: doafan on March 23, 2016, 03:20:16 pm
Man, just when Bray Wyatt's rumored injury was looking to not be a thing, Luke Harper has now had an actual injury after RAW went dark that could keep him out for awhile. If it's as serious as it could seem to be, it might even keep him out of Wrestlemania.
It seems that the company has a curse, can't believe that they have some many injured wrestlers and now Harper I started to follow his career at Ring of Honor even when he was only one year at that company the big guy indeed has potential and it's not another big dude with a limited arsenal of moves, from the whole group he is my favorite about the latest shows from the WWE have to be honest I haven't seen anything cause am currently watching the Kevin Steen: Descent Into Madness DVD ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 23, 2016, 09:02:02 pm
From what I understand, a lot of the injuries come from their very busy wrestling schedule and that we are seeing a lot more wild fighting coming in. Everyone is going at it hard and it can lead to more injuries taking all those bumps.
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Post by: doafan on March 25, 2016, 04:42:31 pm
Cesaro will come back to action unfortunately it won't gonna be at Wrestlemania, his return it will be in Amsterdam at the Ziggo Dome this next April 15th about this wrestler was watching the latest Stone Cold podcast where he asked Vince what's does Cesaro needs to be a main event, where he explain it only in one word ... he lack's it, damn really hope that he can get the push and find whatever he needs to be part important of the main roster, if Vince doesn't know what he needs apart that he is a good wrestler with charisma and attitude hope that Cesaro can find the answer ...
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 25, 2016, 10:00:55 pm
I don't entirely disagree that Cesaro doesn't quite have it. I think he's a good wrestler and one of the tall guys that makes moves look good, even his goofy swing movie, but like as a character, I haven't seen anything that pushes him over. It's kinda what Roman Reigns is suffering with, in that he's just not very interesting character wise compared to others, like Ambrose who is oozing character.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 26, 2016, 07:09:12 pm
Some odd word changes for the tag team title match at Wrestlemania, making it unsure if it's a title match or not between New Day and The League. Also, Uso's vs Dudleyz are going to be on the pre-show, not main card, which makes sense since it's a fairly nothing match, so it'll be there with the Andre the Giant rumble.
*EDIT* While this is complete rumory nonsense, it's interesting that there is talk about Reigns going heel. While I don't think it would truly make anything better, it would make things slightly more interesting if in doing this, they are doing it because they realize they can't force Reigns onto the audience.
With this possibility in mind...I wonder if we don't see the almost forgone conclusion that Reigns wins at Wrestlemania. Maybe either through shenanigans or with a clean pin from HHH, we see HHH win. This finally sets off Reigns who is tired of the bullshit. Gone is his friendships with his family and Ambrose, he goes full on lone wolf and is tearing things apart as he does. Don't have a lot of story built around him, don't need him having one on one chats with people, turn him abit into Lesnar without Heyman. Maybe even go the manager route, so he becomes like Lana and Rusev as I heard he had a huge streak before the last Mania that worked well.
This would give him maybe a year or so to try and rebuild himself. None of the upper level pushes to make him the face of the company like Cena, but break him down and let him build back up. Maybe during that he can learn better mic and character work. Take acting lessons or something, I don't know lol Maybe he just doesn't have that charisma like his cousin Dwayne or buddy Ambrose. Heck, going heel worked for The Rock for sure.
Then HHH could lose the belt to a returning Seth Rollins at Extreme Rules in May perhaps. I'm all for him getting back the belt lol
*DOUBLE THE EDIT* I kinda see where this heel turn for Reigns talk is coming from. He didn't use his usual fan favorite entrance through the audience on the last Smackdown and I guess on Raw. He beat the crap out of Bubba Dudley to the point of being disqualified. He sorta went on a rampage like this after he lost the belt the first time, so not sure if it really means anything, but a changing behavior can signal a shift.
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Post by: doafan on March 27, 2016, 11:51:49 am
Dunno why but the WWE has excluded the Big Show from the match for the IC but well Sin Cara and The Miz will be there now taking the big mans place they also have changed the stipulations of this match being now a Ladder match, don't have to say that I have high expectations for this one cause KO is quite familiar with this kind of wrestling at Ring of Honor so really want to see if he can gave us an awesome match like those in the past, by the way Michale Cole make him doubt about the results of this one ...
Still wondering also why the hell this match between Sami, Dean and Kevin wasn't aired, it was pretty damn good :
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 27, 2016, 03:45:06 pm
My guess is that they didn't want Big Show in both the rumble and the IC match. He's not a very spry giant anymore. The ladder thing is mostly just them rehashing last years Mania match for the belt, which I'm alright with cause that was a good match.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 28, 2016, 03:55:13 pm
WWE's imagined opening of Nitro if WCW had won the Monday Night War:
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 28, 2016, 06:40:36 pm
I just realized how big this weekend is for wrestling lol Friday is NXT Takeover, WWE Hall of Fame is Saturday, and Wrestlemania is Sunday. I'm interested to see if Wrestlemania has any tricks to make it worthwhile, but I might be much more excited for Takeover. We got Nakamura debuting, we got Asuka versus Bailey, and we got Bailor vs Joe. I hope we get some suprises there too, such as the reveal of "The Balor Club".
*EDIT* Tough time for the Bellas. Apparently Niki just won't ever return to full time wrestling, part time at best if she's lucky. On top of that, she won't be able to participate with Brie at Wrestlemania in any capacity, which is apparently looking to be her last matches as she is looking to quit/retire soon, due to things being maybe worse off for her husband Daniel Bryan and likely wanting to spend time with him. I never cared for them as characters, but as performers, it sucks to see this happen to anyone.
Reading some predictions on the HHH vs Reigns match, has me seeing the possible heel turn being considered, even if Reigns wins. Rock isn't wrestling, but what if to come celebrate the win, coming out to get speared or punched by Reigns. He's going to get booed, so why not get some SERIOUS boos that are designed to propel him forward in some sort of interesting way. It doesn't need to make him full on heel, but we get an anti-authority guy, who is tired of dealing with all the shit over the years that is put on him, and we get a champion that is going to go his own way. We have already seen it sort of shifting in that way, with Reigns dropping his entrance and all the back and forth attacks between him and HHH.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 30, 2016, 07:12:03 pm
This is some good news and is probably more important to the WWE women's division than that "diva revolution" nonsense from last year. Basically "divas" will go away, no longer used, belt too, and replaced with the WWE Woman's Championship with a belt similar to the main belt, but with white leather. I never liked the term "diva" for representing the women. I know there are good uses of the term, but I've always seen the term used more in kind of a negative way, where someone is acting up and they just get called a "diva".
In the long run, this will probably be better for the big womens push they are trying to do, that's going successfully well in NXT (I'm pretty stoked for Bailey vs Asuka on Friday), and hopefully we see some better stuff going on, which sometimes happens. Like I watched Paige versus...someone on Raw and it wasn't half bad. Saw some good stuff and I generally like Becky and Sasha, though Becky needs to abandon that dumb "Grab the rope, jump on the rope, then do a little kick to the side". It looks so bad lol
More match shifting for this weekend. Apparently the Andre rumble is now likely to kick off the main show, not the pre-show. Kalysto vs Ryback for the USA belt will be on the pre-show. The Uso's vs Dudleys will be on the pre-show. And the 10 woman tag match will be on the pre-show.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 31, 2016, 12:58:12 pm
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Post by: burningdoom on March 31, 2016, 03:06:23 pm
Raw this week REALLY felt like the final stop before WrestleMania. Between Shane McMahon putting Taker through a table, the chaos with the IC Title contenstants and the Andre the Giant Battle Royal Contestants, and the back and forth attacks between Reigns and HHH. (BTW, I loved the crazy moment from Ambrose, too.) It was a helluva Raw!
But we still have Smackdown tonight. What are they going to do to top Raw on the actual final stop before WrestleMania? Or is this just going to be a filler episode?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 31, 2016, 04:31:26 pm
Raw this week REALLY felt like the final stop before WrestleMania. Between Shane McMahon putting Taker through a table, the chaos with the IC Title contenstants and the Andre the Giant Battle Royal Contestants, and the back and forth attacks between Reigns and HHH. (BTW, I loved the crazy moment from Ambrose, too.) It was a helluva Raw!
But we still have Smackdown tonight. What are they going to do to top Raw on the actual final stop before WrestleMania? Or is this just going to be a filler episode?
Probably some more stuff with the B-Tiered folks and the final setup for Wrestlemania with them.
*EDIT* Yeah it's super filler stuff. Lots of rehashing the events of Raw along with prepackaged promos for the big events, primarily Lesnar/Ambrose and HHH/Reigns. LONG stuff too to fill up time lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 01, 2016, 05:48:33 pm
Getting hyped for NXT Takeover Dallas tonight! I really hope Nakamura gets to keep his fantastic theme lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 01, 2016, 10:24:15 pm
NXT Takeover Dallas
American Alpha vs Dash and Dawnson - Incredibly good match. I have never watched either of these teams, my NXT knowledge is limited, but god damn there were some great spots. There was even one botch, that lead to a "You fucked up" chant and then a big "botchamania" chant lol It was handled well though that it didn't sour the match at all. The ending was a lot of fun with a bunch of near pin flips and counters. I can't wait for more.
Corbin vs Aries - I know Corbin abit more in this, Aries being one of those big gets like Nakamura I guess. Should be an interesting fight I hope. This was a slower match, but had some good spots. A few looked real rough, such as the second rope drop and the Deep 6 on the floor. Anything that makes you cringe, but you know it was executed properly, is a good move lol
Zayne vs Nakamura - IT'S HAPPENING. I knew it wasn't likely he wouldn't get to keep his theme, but at least he gets to keep his crazy style lol Crowd chants are going absolutely nuts lol You'd be hard pressed to find someone as physically stylish as a Nakamura I think. So much extra movement and lots of taunting. Crap, missing a few spots cause of connection. Stahp it! Incredible match that looked like they gave it their all. I'm so happy with this, despite the player running crappy for me lol The King of Strong Style!
Asuka vs Bailey - This was the other match I was super excited for. Asuka, much like Nakamura, has a lot of great character and style. Bailey is great as the ultimate babyface too. She might be considered too goofy and silly, but it works, especially since she's a good wrestler. Just a genuinely good match, and it didn't have some crazy finish thing, actually a pretty regular finish, but I'm cool with that. They all can't be crazy nuts lol Samoa Joe vs Finn Balor - I expect another good match here, which means Takeover Dallas is just gonna be incredible. Don't know why Balor has a chainsaw, but....WHY NOT?! Oh damn, Finn opened up Joe like a geyser!. Can't tell where, but it wasn't even a minute into the match and he is covered lol Looks like a cheek cut or below the eye. This is bad, this might be one of the worst gushers I've seen in a while. Intense start. I wonder if this will end early because of the cut. Looks like they'll keep it going and man that is intense with him just face bathed in gore lol I wonder if they'll try to hurry the match up because of this. Despite the stops on this one, it was a great match. They knew they had to keep it intense ebcause of the delays.
This whole event was fantastic. Not a single bad match and most of them were great. I only put Corbin and Aries at the bottom because it wasn't one I was super interested in and the starting tag team match was just a flurry of moments. It's hilarious to think that what is consider the "main show" of Wrestlemania, now has to compete against its little brother lol Sure, Wrestlemania has the flair and size, but straight up quality wrestling? I doubt we'll see anything on the same level as this.
*Hall of Fame Edit* New Day continuing to be some of the funnest guys the WWE has.
John Cena's time away from WWE did no favors for him as he came back to so many boos at the Hall of the Fame of all places lol I really hope his teasing was for this and not Wrestlemania tomorrow, because we don't need any more booing there. Those will all be for Reigns if he wins the belt lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 03, 2016, 05:17:59 pm
Ending up live blogging the whole thing and it got kinda messy, so I'm rewriting things to better work out feelings from Wrestlemania.
Kalisto vs Ryback - Fairly innoffensive match. Nothing exciting, but both looked good for what it was and Kalisto came out in a fantastic dragon outfit. Downside of the match was that the stadium had issues with scanning tickets, so most of the audience wasn't even in the theater. It had to be only like 1/3rd full and it looked kinda bad because of it, but it was just the pre-show.
10 Diva Tag Match - Basically a nothing match. A couple spots here and there, nothing special. Kinda cool to see Lana acting like a wrestler, but she only did two kicks. Nice to see Brie get her stuff out and to have Nikki come out in full gear and a neck brace to celebrate with her, possibly for the last time for either of them.
FILLER - Lita announced that the belt is now the "Women's Championship" and matches the main one, just in white/red instead of black. It's a good move.
Dudleys vs Uso's - Another kinda nothing match. It was fine, nothing special, and not even the reversal of the Dudley's going through the tables is interesting. I don't know what they are doing with the Dudley's anymore.
IC Ladder Match - This was a super fun match. Lots of great spots and probably more fun than the last two ladder matches because there was more going on in general. I think the only spot I remember from the IC belt match last year was Ambrose thrown through the ladder. Surprising win on this one, but I don't know the wrestler well enough to care other than I would've like Zayn to get it or KO to keep it for abit.
AJ Styles vs Chris Jericho - It's the same as every other time they fought, so it was alright. Jericho winning is dumb I think, because it just buries Styles and it makes no sense with all the heat Jericho was getting with the build up to Mania. I hope they are done fighting. This is the worst feud.
New Day vs League - New Day coming out of a box of giant Booty-O's, dressed like Saiyans from Dragonball Z. No joke. This is amazing lol Match was alright, a few good spots, with a League win, but it wasn't for the belts, so it's not a big deal, but the League is being buried so hard. How hard? Why they are being buried so hard, that for no real reason Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels (Who looks in fighting shape), and Stone Cold come out for a beat down, stomping the League 3 on 3 after New Day pulls one of the four out, and then do all their moves. It was honestly a lot of fun, but it so buries them. I don't care about the League any ways, so it's great. Rusev and Xavier do amazing selling for the stunner.
Just look at this selling! Xavier also sold it well, with more arm flailing, but Rusev killed it.
Lesnar vs Ambrose - I was interested in this, and while it was kinda the beat down I expected, it was honestly kinda meaningless. All the buildup and Lesnar just beats Ambrose out legit after a million suplexes. I like both, but I think Ambrose should've won. Lesnar having one loss every so often doesn't ruin him and this would've propelled Ambrose.
Charlotte, Becky, Sasha - Shockingly good match, no joke. I might even say better than Asuka and Bailey at Takeover, though they had much harder hits I thought. Overall it was very high energy, they tried a lot, did a lot, and it felt like they were going for it. Then they ruin it by having Ric Flair interfere, making Charlotte once agains cheat to win the new belt, because fuck you, that's why. This shit was old weeks ago, but to have it on Mania? Dammit WWE.
Shane vs Undertaker - This was what I expected, but it was still pretty incredible at points. I wanted Shane to win so much, because it would lead to hopefully interesting story. And his jump off the top of that huge cell was INSANE. Highlight of the night for sure as they gave it there all and I thought it was pretty good.
Rumble - This was weird, but alright. Like they had Diamond Dallas Page, Tatanka, and freaking Shaquille O'Neal in this. Shaq went out quick and was kinda dumb to have, but whatever. DDP was cool to have for abit and Tatanka for novelty sake. I thought Kane had this, but out of nowhere, it was a clean win for Baron Corbin from NXT! I guess he'll be coming up soon to the main roster. I'm cool with that. He's a good tall guy that builds heat well.
FILLER - No band this time, thank god, just a quick bit of Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders dancing to Thunderstruck for like two minutes. Meh. Then the Rock comes out and does his thing for abit till the Wyatts interrupt. I thought that finally they were gonna do something for them to build heat. I mean they even were gonna make it a legit match! But Rock pins Rowan in 6 seconds and then gets ready for a beat down...OH THEN CENA APPEARS, BECAUSE FUCK YOU, THAT'S WHY! Once again they bury the Wyatts. Despite building them up as this destructive force. They are constantly wrecked. It's even worse here because they are jobbed out by a guy who maybe wrestles once a year, if that, and he didn't even wrestle, he just hit his signatures. I love the Rock, but this was terrible. Most still hate Cena too, nothings changed.
HHH vs Reigns - This match exemplifies everything that is wrong with WWE right now. Despite building up this hilarious intro with Stephanie, trying to garner ultra level heat for HHH, it doesn't work because Roman comes out to nearly theme defeaning BOOO's. The largest boo's I've ever heard. They spent much of this match mic'ing out what they can to hide the boo's. Roman wins after a boring match (which makes things worst, is that it wasn't even a good match), and the boo's explode again, just to be mic'd out so they can fake the disdain the crowd has for Roman.
Overall - With this Wrestlemania, I can say I've learned this. WWE hates us. Obviously so. You don't want Becky and Sasha to win, setting a new stage for the women's division? Screw you, cheat win for Charlotte. You are loving New Day? League win in a handicapped 3 on 4 match. Can't get enough of Styles? Screw you, Jericho hates you all too and he won. Ambrose maybe hitting that next level of awesomeness for you with all this build up? Screw you, Lesnar is the beast, he can't be beaten other than through cheating. Want Shane to win so that some big interesting change could happen to WWE? Screw you, Vince always wins in the end. Reigns is booed more than anyone else in the entire event and clearly no one wants as the face of the company or as the champion again, let alone three time champion in 6 months? Screw you, we'll do what we want and we want our new Cena, even if you hate him more than Cena now.
It's so frustrating when there was a lot of good going on, but it was like so much of this Wrestlemania was just a big middle finger from Vince to people. Maybe Raw will be interesting today, but holy crap, WWE can't not overcome their problems.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 04, 2016, 04:03:07 pm
Sooooo disappointed that Shane lost. SOOOOO disappointed.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 04, 2016, 04:40:48 pm
Sooooo disappointed that Shane lost. SOOOOO disappointed.
I am too, though man what craziness that was. It should've been the main event.
For sure. It sucked to be Reigns and HHH following that up.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 04, 2016, 04:44:53 pm
Pretty good Hall of Fame! Who else watched it?
The Fabulous Freebirds were great! Michael Hayes should still be a manager, an announcer, something to put that talent to use. Freaking hilarious after they did they're entrance dance, and the crowd is chanting "Freebirds rock! Freebirds rock!"; Michael Hayes finally gets to the mic and exasperates: "Freebirds need oxygen." lol
Ric Flair seemed like the perfect choice to induct Sting, until it actually happened. He totally tried to steal the spotlight and talked about all kinds of stuff that had NOTHING to do with Sting...hey Ric, you were already inducted...twice.
What did you guys think?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 04, 2016, 04:58:39 pm
The Fabulous Freebirds were great! Michael Hayes should still be a manager, an announcer, something to put that talent to use. Freaking hilarious after they did they're entrance dance, and the crowd is chanting "Freebirds rock! Freebirds rock!"; Michael Hayes finally gets to the mic and exasperates: "Freebirds need oxygen." lol
Ric Flair seemed like the perfect choice to induct Sting, until it actually happened. He totally tried to steal the spotlight and talked about all kinds of stuff that had NOTHING to do with Sting...hey Ric, you were already inducted...twice.
What did you guys think?
I generally liked it, but yeah, Flair kinda ruined two events this weekend lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 04, 2016, 09:58:14 pm
Holy shit. There were very few things that people were gonna like from last night. Zack Ryder got huge pops when he came out on RAW, but they waste all that goodwill on some nonsense involving Ryder's dad and Miz's wife, that lead to Ryder losing the belt after only a day. WWE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DOING?!
Shane's match didn't mean anything, since Vince gave RAW to Shane, just for tonight. There's now a fatal four way match tonight with KO, Styles, Jericho, and Zayn, I think to make them contenders for the belt. At this point, I fully expect Reigns to lose after just getting the belt and somehow HHH wins it again. That's how bad WWE is at booking things right now lol
Also, apparently a whole bunch of NXT is coming up to RAW. We already had Zayne, Corbin is there, apparently Apollo Crews is coming after only a few months in NXT, and now The Vaude Villains will be on Smackdown. I thought we'd see the two jersey dudes also and Bailey is likely coming too. I could see why NXT is hiring more big names like Aries, Nakamura, and that Bobby Roode guy is coming, plus those two other guys that are former bullet club.
So no remath for Becky and Sasha with Charlotte, but Natalie is gonna get a thing going with Charlotte in a Flair vs Hart proxy feud? Kay.
And now Uso's vs Dudley again in a table match, the thing that Dudleys said they didn't want to do, but constantly do. WHAT IS THIS BOOKING. Bubba seemed like he was no selling a spot or two, in a bad way. Hrmmm...
Speaking of Enzo and Cass, the two guys I thought of before, here they are, totally ignoring the Dudleys as they come in. Love that lol Great smack talk from them and I guess Dudleys are done feuding with the Uso's and now will start a feud with the newcomers. Sure. Why not.
While I'm disappointed that KO knocked Zayn out beforehand for this fatal 4 way, we instead get us the return of Cesaro! Cool to have him back. Sucks that Jericho is still in a match with Styles, I'm totally digging seeing Styles and Cesaro duke it out. This is what people want. Make sure Jericho never fights Styles again lol This is a pretty good match. And Styles is #1 contender beating Jericho! Hopefully this is the end of this dumb feud and Styles going onto better things. Here's your face (styles) vs heel (reigns) match lol
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Post by: doafan on April 06, 2016, 11:43:59 am
Being honest really didn't want to post my impressions of Wrestlemania cause I was almost sleeping when was watching the event except at the beginning, can't believe they started with the Intercontinental Championship but anyway Owens losing his belt was ok cause Zack Ryder really deserved the belt, the match was good enough also seeing Kevin applying the Pumphandle Neckbreaker was fucking excellent to bad that this past Raw Miz is the new IC champion, seriously.
The New Day made it again with those costumes specially that Goku Woods and seeing three legends at the ring after the match was awesome, the match was good enough to keep me all the time in front of the TV, that Stunner to Xavier and the face of his team mates was pure perfection, was expecting to be this excited with the Lesnar / Dean match but being totally honest was expecting a lot more, this one was the second match that I was expecting and leaved me totally disappointed, really don't want to talk more about this one.
About the Undertaker vs. Shane match really can't said what was wrong with this one, maybe that I was expecting a lot more specially from Shane but the worst part was after the event when they announced that it was the last match for the Dead Man, they made a "huge" entrance for HHH and practically nothing to the Taker, about the last match won't say anything only that the people wasn't happy with the result of it, talking about Raw that It was supposed to be the best Raw of the year seeing Reings practically offering the belt to everybody was lame, really want it for Owens but after reading some articles it appears if they are correct AJ Styles will be the next champ, will read more about this and will post the idea or the story that might happen.
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Post by: doafan on April 20, 2016, 06:29:02 pm
Well it seems that that the web page from wrestling that am following is doing things right cause Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson attacked Reigns this past Monday when AJ Stylez was talking with the champ, the page claim that they will form The Bullet Club again to help the phenomenal to get the belt and maybe, The Shield will be reunited again, to be quite honest I really have a lot of doubts about this last part but the idea of the first team being reunited again it has sense, really want them to be back.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2016, 06:51:10 pm
Well it seems that that the web page from wrestling that am following is doing things right cause Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson attacked Reigns this past Monday when AJ Stylez was talking with the champ, the page claim that they will form The Bullet Club again to help the phenomenal to get the belt and maybe, The Shield will be reunited again, to be quite honest I really have a lot of doubts about this last part but the idea of the first team being reunited again it has sense, really want them to be back.
I'm a little unsure of what they plan to do. Styles is a face, so joining to reform the Bullet Club or whatever they call it, would seem a tad weird with Gallows and Anderson as heels, though maybe we see Bullet Club stuff happen once Balor shows up. I'm worried their intervention could lead to DQ nonsense for the belt at Payback, of which I don't really think Reigns will lose it. As hated as he is, I think they want to try and build more heel heat for him by letting him keep it for awhile and Styles is probably still too new to get the belt I'd guess. Though I still hope for the best with Styles winning.
Though it would be nice for a good guy to win the belt though...I just looked, and a good guy hasn't held the belt since Cena in June 2014, and the last time it was held by someone that was well liked, it was Bryans in April 2014. That's 2 years. I guess technically people like Lesnar, but he's certainly no face.
Also, in abit of twitter nonsense, Jericho is trashing Nakamura, possibly hinting at an initial rivalry between them when Nakamura comes to the main show, and now I'm picturing the horror of multiple Jericho vs Nakamura matches. It'll be Styles vs Jericho all over again. Jericho isn't bad, he's just kinda boring and he's a lame heel. I don't want this to happen. How long till Jericho retires? lol http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/4/20/11466686/chris-jericho-ethers-nakamura
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Post by: doafan on April 20, 2016, 07:12:03 pm
Damn I just noticed that Payback is this Sunday and still don't know anything about the battles of this event, am kinda immersed with the two DVD's of Kevin Steen: Ascension to the Top that haven't seen any RAW and SmackDown this past two weeks, am taking my time watching and replaying his matches at Ring of Honor, didn't knew that he even had a match with Bryan Danielson :o
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2016, 07:18:58 pm
Damn I just noticed that Payback is this Sunday and still don't know anything about the battles of this event, am kinda immersed with the two DVD's of Kevin Steen: Ascension to the Top that haven't seen any RAW and SmackDown this past two weeks, am taking my time watching and replaying his matches at Ring of Honor, didn't knew that he even had a match with Bryan Danielson :o
Next Sunday, May 1st. I know cause I'll miss it due to a concert I'm going to lol
The current matches for it are...
Reigns vs Styles for the WWE Championship Miz vs Cesaro for IC Belt Ambrose vs Jericho Zayn vs Owens Charlotte w/Rick vs Natalya w/Bret Hart for WWE Women's Belt Amore and Cassidy vs Vaudevillains for #1 contenders against New Day.
I'm expecting Reigns to win, but would love for Styles to get it. I'm hoping for Cesaro to win because he's cool and Miz is annoying and how he won it was dumb. Of course Ambrose to win against Jericho. This might be the only match I'm kinda expecting to be great, and I'm cool with Zayns or Owens winning. I expect Charlotte keeps the belt, because why not. And I want Amore and Cassidy to win, because they are a lot of fun. I'd totally want them to win against New Day also. Freshens up New Day and then Amore and Cassidy get some good initial hype.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 20, 2016, 11:20:10 pm
Was randomly thinking about The Bullet Club and Shield ideas and maybe it is something that could work. Reigns has to lose the belt. There's no point where he will be over and people will like him. He will be booed nonstop at every event. There is no story line where he will be cheered as the good guy and put him over and even turning him heel won't better anything, that'll just keep the booes going nonstop. So at Payback, have Styles win the belt, maybe begrudgingly with help from Gallows and Anderson. This sends Roman out of the way for awhile. Have him off for a month. Now we have the new Bullet Club.
At the next event, which I think is Extreme Rules, have both Rollins and Reigns come back, maybe to help out Ambrose. It's a shaky alliance with Rollins, but maybe it's done out of necessity than whatever they were before (I don't know much about the Shield actually). Now we get some stuff with Shield vs Bullet Club. Then out of nowhere, Balor busts in, helping out Bullet Club. This gives them a 4th guy as now Balor is part of the roster. That could lead to the Shield looking to gain a new member, bringing some proper faction stuff back to WWE that isn't dumb combinations like with the League of Nations (I'm fine with all those guys single, but they were such a lame heel team lol). This could work...
Reigns just needs to go for now. He's been champion 3 times in less than a year. STAHP IT. Reigns is not top tier.
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Post by: fighterpilot562 on April 21, 2016, 01:48:09 am
Geez, 45. That's rough. I use to like her back when she wrestled, but I know she had a hard time afterwards. Sucks to see someone go so young. RIP.
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Post by: doafan on April 21, 2016, 02:20:39 pm
What the fuck, how the hell did she die ? anyway really hope that she may Rest in Peace, I will never forget those moments when she was Eddie's "little girl" about those times when she was with the asshole of HHH well let's say that they weren't my favorites, why ....
* Reminder that she was just some female body builder HHH found. * Reminder that HHH brought her into the business and made her and started dating her. * Reminder that HHH dumped her like a piece of shit for Stephanie in order to advance his career. * Reminder that HHH cheated on her before that. * Reminder that HHH used his new power with the blessing of Vince to shun her from WWE because he couldn't face her after doing such a shitty thing to her. * Reminder that despite being one of the most popular female wrestlers, they wont even acknowledge she died and even if they did, it would just be some fake bullshit forced memorial thing for ratings because they obviously didn't give a shit about her while she was alive.
... so fuck HHH and Stephanie McMahon and talking about this last one her tweet about China's dead is more false than anything, they even got the nerves that they posted her death at the WWE page (http://www.wwe.com/article/chyna-passes-away) :
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 22, 2016, 11:41:53 pm
Oh man, it might be happening, but apparently due to what we will likely see on NXT next week, Finn Balor will be coming to the main show quicker than I thought. There's a tease that we could see Balor on RAW on Monday. This could lead to a Bullet/Balor Club thing happening with Anderson and Gallows. Still not sure if Styles will play into it in the same way, but it would make for some awesome faction stuff to do this.
I am slightly concerned about the state of NXT though. Recently we've had a lot of folks moving up such as Baron Corbin, Crews, Amore & Cassidy, Vaudevillains, and if Balor goes, that's another big one. Doesn't leave a lot of folks for NXT on the male side it seems. Samoa Joe is there, but I doubt he'll be there for too much longer. Nakamura is huge, but I'm unsure how long he'll stay there too. Austin Aries I understand is a big name, but much like Nakamura, how long till he moves on? I don't watch NXT intently, but I can't say I've seen anyone really fitting the bill to fill the gaps of these guys that have been there for awhile.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 23, 2016, 10:22:43 am
Why the hell hasn't Samoa Joe gone to the main roster yet? He was a bigger star than any of the rest of the NXT guys before he joined.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 23, 2016, 06:49:30 pm
Next Sunday, May 1st. I know cause I'll miss it due to a concert I'm going to lol
The day is almost here unfortunately there will be no pizza and wings this time anyway two more matches were scheduled for the event ...
* Kalisto (c) vs. Ryback: Singles match for the WWE United States Championship * Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin: Singles match
... being honest I really don't care about these two, hope that they are part of the Kickoff, from the whole event I only want to see three of them, am expecting to see AJ. Styles as the new champ which it sound pretty ridiculous but dreaming is free, for the second one I want Amore and Cassidy (really hope to see Carmella with them) to be the main contenders and for the last one don't have to say that expect to see a great match between Steen vs. El Generico, what ?, this match is a rip off of those that had place at Ring of Honor but still is my main one, just before I leave the office was checking the WWE page and the WWE's Nee Era! part took mi attention, it means that PG Era is finally over ?, will came back this next Monday to leave my comments about this event cause don't like to be on Internet at home ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 01, 2016, 04:49:15 pm
I'll be watching the show tonight since I'm staying home from the second day of the music festival and I'll toss out my views, though right now, I want to throw out my predictions/guesses.
Kalisto vs Ryback: US Championship - I think Ryback wins it. I've read a little recently for something that makes a lot of sense, but since Ryback is going heel and they really are treating the belt like it's crap (Two kickoff shows in a row? It's a god damn belt! Treat it right!), so I say we see Ryback win it. And as much as I don't care for Cena, I see him coming back to fight it off Ryback in probably a lame match, but it leads to Cena doing his open call for the belt which does allow for a lot of people to come at it.
Ziggler vs Corbin - Pointless feud, but I think Corbin will win it because they want to push their new guy as a beast.
Enzo & Cass vs Vaudevillains - This was another event I read about, where it's Vaudevillains winning, just to lose to New Day, but I am gonna say Enzo and Cass because they are great and I want a championship bout between them and New Day. They are easily some of the funniest people out there. Even if they likely lose, it would be an awesome match.
Zayn vs Owens - This could be a lot of fun and honestly, I'm for it either way on the winner. It's a win-win situation lol
Ambrose vs Jericho - Just let Ambrose win, I don't care about Jericho anymore.
Miz vs Cesaro: IC Championship - Cesaro should totally win. The win Miz got from Ryder was really freaking stupid and Cesaro is cool, so just let it happen.
Charlotte vs Natalya - Charlotte probably wins it. I'm still annoyed she won it how she did at Wrestlemania and I wouldn't be surprised if it's still not a clean win for Charlotte with some sort of intervention, even with Bret Hart in Natalya's corner. I do have a small feeling that Natalya could take the belt, mostly because I think they just wanted to give the new belt to Charlotte first as a thing because she's a Flair. She's mostly a boring a heel champion so it would be nice for them to give it to Natalya.
Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles - Sadly I feel it'll be a Reigns win. I think they'll embrace the hate they'll continue to get, but I can't imagine it'll ever work for them. He's a babyface getting booed harder than Cena ever has and Cena gets a good mixture of cheers to balance out his boo's. Reigns really doesn't. I don't know if it's too early for a Styles win. I want him to win, he's awesome. If they did do it, I think it would give them a really huge positive boost. This is one where it has the possibility to go in interesting ways, but I feel like it'll go two specific ways...Reigns looks like he'll win, Gallows & Anderson come out, then the Uso's, they fight it out, but somehow Styles gets DQ'd or Reigns does, making it so Reigns wins or loses, but no belt change. The other is they come out, and during Uso's coming out, Styles gets distracted and taken out, making it so Reigns win. Styles winning is an extremely low chance sadly.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 01, 2016, 07:58:36 pm
Now lets see where my guesses went...
Ziggler vs Corbin - Accidentally missed this (Thought the kickoff was at 8, not the main show lol), but apparently Ziggler won. Kind of a nothing thing, so I don't care that I got it wrong lol
Kalisto vs Ryback - Holy crap, Kalisto was going nuts with this lol Like this is some of the best I've seen him do. WAY better than Wrestlemania. I thought this was gonna be nothing. Very high energy, crazy back and forth. AND KALISTO WON! Jesus, this freaking match was short, but insane lol I'm super glad I was wrong about this match XD
Fuck, Enzo got hurt legit real bad. Head smashed into the bottom rope and floor as he tried to go under. No joke, serious stuff, looks like he practically was knocked out and maybe hurt. They eventually brought the camera away when it was shown to be serious and they moved onto a Sami and Kevin backstory bit while they prepare to move on.
Owens vs Zayne - Bit rough to go to this after Enzo, but they gave their all for this match, very great spots with Owens winning. I'm cool with that.
Enzo is moving and talking in an update. Good sign, at the worst he might've just got a concussion.
Cesaro vs Miz - I hate shenanigan wins, but it was a good match still, even if Miz won.
Ambose vs Jericho - Ambrose won which is cool. Solid match.
Charlotte vs Natalya - Of course shenanigans, but dumb shenanigans. Charlotte won, whatever.
Shane and Stephanie are both running Raw...I'm sure this will end up being pointless lol I expect the main event with Reigns vs Styles to be just as much as a dud lol
Styles vs Reigns - I came into the match late and I know I give Roman shit, but I mostly give his push crap, not him personally. He's not a bad wrestler, if limited I think, but he was really bringing it here. No joke, way more intense than Wrestlemania. I'm still annoyed Reigns won, but I can't fault the match. It was some pretty serious back and forth. Styles and Reigns went nuts. Their rematch is already set for Extreme Rules towards the end of the month. Kinda hoping that Seth Rollins returns by then and they work it into a no DQ, no count-out, three way fight for the belt.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 02, 2016, 02:55:35 pm
It was a fucking pain in the ass to see this event, why ?, because five minutes before it started I turned off the Xbox and changed to the channel just to have a damn black screen, immediately I went to the dinning room just to have the same issue, tested all the TV's at home and none of them had that channel working, called the cable service and the first asshole that took my call told me that they were having a problem that it might gonna be solved in two hours, since I paid the Fox Sports channels just to watch the events I asked to talk with a supervisor who after 10 minutes of waiting him at line told me that those events will not gonna be aired with them, went nuts and immediately registered my email address for the free month of subscription to the WWE Network and started to watch the show at the Xbox just when the Owens vs Sayn was almost ending:
Ziggler vs Corbin: didn't saw this is one and being honest really don't have any interest so will just let it pass. Kalisto vs Ryback: after reading your comments I'll have to see the kickoff just to see by myself how crazy he went at this match. Enzo Amore & Colin Cassady vs. The Vaudevillains: was this one part of the kickoff show too ?, am downloading now a copy of the event. Owens vs Zayne: definitely need to see this one, only saw like five minutes of this match but I do love the results of this one. Cesaro vs Miz: damn Miz wife sure does have a big pair of ... eyes, my wife was practically telling me with her eyes don't look her boobs, don't you dare to do it, the match was good enough and really loved how Kevin and Sami did their mess at the ring, hope that we can have tonight a four match or at least a team one. Ambose vs Jericho: at this point the fucking internet started to fail, didn't mentioned before but the cable provider is also the internet provider so saw this match in slow motion and missed like 10 minutes because the service went down for this time, the good thing is that the air cable returned but almost of the end of the match so I need to watch the full match if not tonight just tomorrow morning. Charlotte vs Natalya: damn Bret looks so fucking old, the match was good enough as always my wife was more jealous of the bodies of the female wrestlers than the fact that I was looking the boobs and the butts of Charlotte and Natalya, lol anyway didn't liked the way that this ended, they practically did a rip off of that match between Hart and Michael had years ago, I demand a rematch. * McMahon segment: I took this time to go to the bathroom and practically Fap (http://i.imgur.com/Wv3ZKUe.gif) myself after looking the divas match ;D Styles vs Reigns: don't like how it ended neither the fact that the match was restarted two times, they are running out of ideas even when they are supposedly trying to get new ones to the company about the performance of the wrestlers have to say that AJ Styles deserve to be the new champion anyway am gonna see it again too.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 02, 2016, 04:13:51 pm
Enzo & Cass were the first match of the main show, though it was obviously cut short once Enzo bashed his head and got himself a concussion, though he's out of the hospital now and all good. Sadly he'll be out for just a short bit to go through all the testing required. I'm sure the tag team tournament will just forfeit their match and put the Vaudevillains up against New Day for the belt, of which they will lose, and then maybe Enzo & Cass can make a comeback.
The Kalisto vs Ryback match was short, but yeah it was totally on point. Ryback played the big guy well, did abit more than the usual stuff, but Kalisto was all over the place and it all looked fantastic. Tons of crazy high flying stuff. I was impressed and I already liked Kalisto lol
The women's match was pretty lame. It was alright wrestling, I didn't see a ton that jumped out at me, but doing a knockoff Montreal Screwjob is really stupid. It was entirely done so they could get Bret up there with Natalya to do the dual Sharpshooter.
I actually liked the double restart of the Styles vs Roman match. Normally I'm not a big fan of dirty shenanigans, as seen by my utter hate of anything Ric Flair related over these past months, but this was something that was more interesting. At first I was bummed that Styles "won" to a count-out, and loved Shane coming out to restart. Then the accidental crotch shot that DQ'd, just to get that reversed, and it turned into one of the better matches I've seen with Reigns in a long while. Not sure what I'd say his last really good one was. I still don't like that Styles lost, but it was a lost where I felt that both looked great and Roman really earned that title for once...I still want him to lose it soon though lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 03, 2016, 03:24:46 pm
Totally forgot to leave open the Azureus yesterday so I just got my copy this morning anyway I saw a couple of minutes ago the Enzo concussion and damn it looked painful as hell, really hope that his recovery won't gonna take that much time, we need these two as the next Tag Team Champions as fast as possible, am currently at the office but I'll try to watch as much as I can here and the rest at home.
Did you got a chance to saw yesterday's RAW, wants to know what happened :-\
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 03, 2016, 03:50:50 pm
Did you got a chance to saw yesterday's RAW, wants to know what happened :-\
-Shane & Stephanie are co-running Raw. Stephanie is now trying to be a nice person, and people of course aren't buying it.
-Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro.
-Becky Lynch vs. Emma
-Goldust and R-Truth continued their little girl-fight where they're trying to make each other jealous. Goldust teamed with Fandango to take on R-Truth who teamed with Tyler Breeze. Goldust and R-Truth both tried to act like their tag-team partner.
-Rusev won an over-the-top rope Battle Royale to claim #1 Contendership to the U.S. Title (which Kalisto holds).
-Natalya and Charlotte are continuing their feud, and pulling from the legacy of Flair and Bret Hart. And it's coming off quite well. I'm actually quite interested in a women's division storyline.
-Cass (without the concussed Enzo) teamed-up with New Day to take on The Dudley Boyz and the Vaudevillains and came out on top.
-AJ Styles reuinited with Gallows and Anderson and they took on Roman Reigns and The Usos. Roman Reigns went nuts and tore into them, putting Styles through the announce table.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 03, 2016, 03:51:49 pm
During this whole Shane vs. Stephanie thing, where is HHH? Isn't he the real boss? Isn't he still COO?
It's stuff like this that pisses me off about WWE sometimes. It's like they think we're stupid and we just not capable of remembering these things.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 03, 2016, 03:53:22 pm
Thanks, it seems that it was a good show, am taking care of that too right now: WWE Raw 05 02 2016 HDTV x264-FMN [TJET] 8)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: spac316 on May 07, 2016, 10:42:08 pm
It seems like ti is becoming a little tad bit more watchable lately. Not saying it's anywhere near as good as it was in attitude era, far from it. But it has been a bit more enjoyable. Looks like for the most part they are pushing more of the newer talent. Of course Cena has been nursing an injury so that may be the reason. I'm also not a Roman hater, but they are just booking him wrong. he should lose the belt at the next PPV and/or turn him heel.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 07, 2016, 11:22:57 pm
It seems like ti is becoming a little tad bit more watchable lately. Not saying it's anywhere near as good as it was in attitude era, far from it. But it has been a bit more enjoyable. Looks like for the most part they are pushing more of the newer talent. Of course Cena has been nursing an injury so that may be the reason. I'm also not a Roman hater, but they are just booking him wrong. he should lose the belt at the next PPV and/or turn him heel.
A number of guys have been out for abit. Cena and Orton in particular are those who are usually part of the wrestling fatigue that happens, but Cena is still gone till the end of the month and Orton will be gone for probably a few more months.
I'm also not a Roman hater. That match at Payback was great, but he doesn't have a whole lot of real charisma in the way of like his Cousin The Rock and yeah, the booking is borked to hell. I'm really hoping he loses it at Extreme Rules coming up, but I have a feeling they are gonna hold off till Seth Rollins returns here in the next month so they can get them feuding. Likely the most clear cut feud to have afterwards, even if I really want Styles to be champ. A tough guy, mostly babyface, champ with two strong heel enforcers would create an interesting dynamic compared to how Rollins did it as the "avoid all danger" guy and kinda useless enforcers.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 08, 2016, 06:17:08 am
I missed this news, but apparently some wrestlers/personalities were let go from WWE. Two I was abit surprised by. Wade Barrett is gone, which isn't too surprising as he began to disappear from TV, but I was kinda hoping to see Sandow return. I thought that maybe he could recover after dropping his bit with The Miz, but WWE once again couldn't figure out what to do with him which sucks. The most he ever got to do was the failed gimmick bit with him pretending to be Randy Savage with Curtis Axel as Hogan which failed when that mess with Hogan started. He seemed cool, which sucks that he's dropped.
Apparently Barrett's release was more expected that I didn't know about, having to decided to not renew a long time ago, which would end up with him having no contract by June, but basically worked it out to leave abit sooner. Oh well, maybe the Bull Hammer will find a new home.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 11, 2016, 06:23:42 pm
It appears that the upcoming house show in Honolulu on June 29 will be huge and when I say huge I really mean it cause there will be not one but two dream match-caliber main events for the Wednesday night show, am talking about two possible matches cause at this point they aren't official or at least not yet, these matches are John Cena vs.Shinsuke Nakamura (http://www.pwtorch.com/site/2016/05/09/huge-double-main-event-advertised-wwes-return-hawaii/) and Brock Lesnar vs. Kevin Owens (http://www.inquisitr.com/3081007/wwe-news-several-dream-matches-advertised-for-hawaii-live-event/) it also seams that there will be another good ones which made me think what the hell are they thinking and why they didn't show these in the next event, definitely would love to see them at the cable >:(
It seems like ti is becoming a little tad bit more watchable lately. Not saying it's anywhere near as good as it was in attitude era, far from it. But it has been a bit more enjoyable. Looks like for the most part they are pushing more of the newer talent. Of course Cena has been nursing an injury so that may be the reason. I'm also not a Roman hater, but they are just booking him wrong. he should lose the belt at the next PPV and/or turn him heel.
Absolutley agree. Since WrestleMania, they turned it up a notch. Pushing younger talent, giving us match-ups we haven't seen before, and pushing that PG-rating. I've seen a bit more violence, blood, and even some language here or there. I've actually found myself looking forward to Raw as it approaches, rather than just looking at the preview on WWE.com to see if it's even worth watching.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 11, 2016, 10:35:35 pm
Damn house shows! Not really excited for a Stiff Cena versus the amazing Nakamura, but I'm for seeing anything he does. I have to wonder if they are already trying to prep Nakamura for the main show. I'm not sure if that'll happen, mostly because they'll need big guys once Balor moves up.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 12, 2016, 12:28:19 pm
With or without the lame boy Nakamura needs to be at the main show, the guy is crazy as hell in fact yesterday after I heard the rumor decided to saw the match between Shinsuke and Sami at NXT and it was simply perfect and I mean it, you can practically feel the hype of the fans not only when he came to the ring the full match the crowd went nuts, have seen this one at least five times and have to agree with one of the comments that a couple of users leaved at Youtube: Much better than Wrestlemania 32 main event
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 12, 2016, 10:03:22 pm
Apparently that house show in Hawaii with Nakamura/Cena and Brock/Owens isn't 100%. Nakamura/Cena isn't being shot down, but Brock/Owens is, going so far to say that Brock won't be around till August to build up for Summerslam. Apparently the rumor for it was that it would be televised, like the Japan house show last year "Beast in the East", but apparently not. Maybe we'll get another fun Japan one this year.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 15, 2016, 08:14:02 pm
Interesting idea (all unsubstantiated of course), but with "The Club" stuff going on with Styles, Anderson, and Gallows, that when Extreme Rules happens, Styles loses not because he's beaten, but because of interference by Gallows, Anderson, and a surprise visit by Balor. Styles clearly isn't heel, he's a very popular face, so it doesn't make a ton of sense for Styles to lead a heel group. But Balor if he comes in, the guy who lead The Bullet Club in New Japan before giving it to Styles, would make for good story stuff. Balor can pull some double duty on NXT and WWE for abit, which Owens did for a little too before moving on.
I'd love this. Balor Club begins, maybe even turning it into some sort of stable for awhile with a few guys. Don't think there's been a group thing for awhile now has there?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 17, 2016, 02:05:09 pm
The thread is kinda dead so lets revive it a little with the list of the matches for the next event Extreme Rules:
Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin - No disqualification match. Roman Reigns with Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso vs. AJ Styles with Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson - Extreme Rules match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods) vs. The Vaudevillains (Aiden English and Simon Gotch) - Tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship Charlotte vs. Natalya - Submission match for the WWE Women's Championship - Ric Flair is banned from ringside and if he does show up Charlotte will lose the championship Kalisto vs. Rusev (with Lana) - Singles match for the WWE United States Championship The Miz (with Maryse) vs. Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Sami Zayn - Fatal 4-Way match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho - Asylum match
Will leave my impressions of this before Sunday cause right now have to see yesterdays Raw, in fact just want to see the match of The Miz and Cesaro against Samy Zain and Kevin Owens, totally love what Stephanie did with the stipulation for Owens ;D
And Kevin if you ever think about talking a walk on Sami Sayn then don't bother showing up this Sunday
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 17, 2016, 04:05:53 pm
The thread is kinda dead so lets revive it a little with the list of the matches for the next event Extreme Rules:
Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin - No disqualification match. Roman Reigns with Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso vs. AJ Styles with Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson - Extreme Rules match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods) vs. The Vaudevillains (Aiden English and Simon Gotch) - Tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship Charlotte vs. Natalya - Submission match for the WWE Women's Championship - Ric Flair is banned from ringside and if he does show up Charlotte will lose the championship Kalisto vs. Rusev (with Lana) - Singles match for the WWE United States Championship The Miz (with Maryse) vs. Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Sami Zayn - Fatal 4-Way match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho - Asylum match
Gonna watch Raw tonight myself, but for the selection, I'll make my guesses as...
Ziggler vs Corbin - I almost feel like Corbin will win, because they want to put him over as a tall guy. There's a lot of "new era" talk and I think that'll come into play here.
Styles vs Reigns - I'm more interested in what comes out of this match than maybe the match itself, since I'm expecting Roman to win. All signs point to it and that Roman will keep it till a bigger event I think.
New Day vs Vaudevillains - New Day. I don't think Vaudevillains have anything really going for them. I want New Day to keep it and then maybe Enzo and Cass go for it at like Money in the Bank or something. Kind of a longshot I feel since they are still the new guys on the main roster. I feel like it could go to someone else instead though. Maybe they'll finally figure out what to do with the dudley's.
Charlotte vs Natalya - I like that Flair is kept out for this. His intervention bit got old weeks and weeks ago. Not sure if Charlotte will lose it, but I think it would be good to do so. I'll say Natalya to win for the heck of it.
Kalisto vs Rusev - I think Rusev wins. They already did Kalisto versus a big guy for abit and Rusev winning it could be a good way to build him back up as I believe him with the US belt awhile back was a big deal. Though he'll probably just end up losing it to Cena when he comes back.
IC Championship - I'm positive Miz loses, but not sure who it goes to. I kinda want it to be Zayn, and I don't feel like it'll be Owens, but I'm cool with all three. I'm gonna say Cesaro though. Feel like its leaning towards him.
Ambrose vs Jericho - Ambrose. I'm done with Jericho lol He's such a tiring heel. Once in awhile he gets some good bits, like I loved him freaking out over his destroyed jacket, but he's been so prominent for months now. He's still a fine wrestler, but I'm kinda over him.
Sidenote: Turns out that the final Balor vs Samoa Joe match at Takeover next month, this time with Samoa Joe as NXT Champion, will take place in NXT's first ever cage match between the two. That's pretty awesome.
Also, Rollins could be returning as early as the beginning of June. I'm very happy for that.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 19, 2016, 06:56:22 pm
Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin: Being honest am not gonna watch this one and really hope that it will became part of the kickoff show. The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods): Indeed this team has to win because the belts practically belong to Enzo and Cassady. Charlotte vs. Natalya: Want Natalya as the new champ dunno why but got the idea that in one way or another Flair will appear at this match. Kalisto vs. Rusev (with Lana): Rusev will gonna win with the "help" of Lana I can beat with this one. The Miz (with Maryse) vs. Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Sami Zayn: Even when am a big fan of Owens really want to see Sami as the new IC Champ, why ? because this way the feud with Kevin can continue, really loved this past Raw event, seeing this two as a team was pretty fun, they should do it more often. Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho: Not a big fan of these two but since am kinda tired of Y2J, hope that we can have a decent match here. Roman Reigns with Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso vs. AJ Styles with Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson : Roman cannot lose cause I have read that Cena is gonna come back and got the idea that he will gonna want the belt back also it's to soon to see Styles as the champ.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 19, 2016, 07:05:28 pm
Ziggler and Corbin are confirmed for the Kickoff Show. I'm glad Kalisto is back on the main show as it was pretty lame relegating the US belt to the kickoff show two times in a row. Really treating the belt poorly.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 22, 2016, 07:58:30 pm
Looks like Enzo & Cass are feuding with the Dudley's once Enzo is back as the Dudley's came out to smalk talk everything, but Big Cass came out to smalk talk them and gave them a quick beating. Can't wait to see Enzo & Cass back together.
Ziggler vs Corbin - A good match between them despite having no interest in the feud. Good enough way to start things off with Corbin taking advantage of the "No Disqualification" here to win.
Uso's vs Gallows/Anderson - Loved the start of the Uso's coming out to attack right as they walked down as it's a tornado tag match, meaning that all 4 wrestlers are legal. Makes for a fast paced start to the show. This match is pretty relentless which is great. Really glad that Anderson and Gallows won as it was pretty good. Bit surprised that Uso's got booed. I know they have their detractors, but maybe I should've guessed this to happen with them supporting Roman and the "Club" has got some good hype going on.
Kalisto vs Rusev - Both guys I like and they are pretty fun to watch, though Kalisto lately has had to many of the "little guy vs big guy" matches lately, so they are pretty consistent where Kalisto gets squashed for most of it till he gets some high flying moves out to turn the tide, but Rusev winning was expected I think and Rusev is back with the belt. Now I hope they'll do something more with it and treat it right as this was the first time since Kalisto had the belt that it was on the main show of the PPV event.
New Day vs Vaudevillains - I want New Day to win and they are likely going to as I don't care about the Vaudevillains lol Should be a fun match though. And it turns out I actually missed most of the match, but New Day won, so that's fine.
IC Championship - This one could go any way. I think Miz clearly loses, there's no good reason to keep it on him after his lame win. Would be cool if Zayn makes his first belt win early on, but I feel like it'll go Owens or Cesaro. Crazy match with lots of close calls. DAMN! Zayne had an insane looking flip to pin! Every time you think it's over, it keeps going! lol Shit! Miz with a cheap ass win! I hate stuff like that. Still an incredible match though. This likely could be the best one of the night.
Ambrose vs Jericho - About what I was expecting. Not bad, but not particularly exciting either. Kind of a weak cage match, especially after what we had with Wrestlemania. We did get a sweet top of the cage elbow drop, but man it got no pop. The crowd is bored too I think. A twist! Tacks! The bucket was a ruse! Things are heating up! The anticipation of who is going to land on the tacks is intense! And Jericho takes the tacks. Damn! Ambrose wins. That match went way too long, but that was a rough end.
Natalya vs Flair - Hoping Natalya wins, not that I particularly find her interesting, I just want the belt to change for a shakeup. Would make for a nice mix of belt changes to for the show as the US belt changed, but the tag team and IC belt did not and the WHC belt won't either. And they found another way to bring shenanigans into the match without Ric. I swear to god, ever since Charlotte got the belt, I don't think she's won legit once. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can think of like a half dozen times they've done this and I'm pretty sure they've done it at every single PPV with her. Boring. Just lazy writing.
Reigns vs Styles - All the boos for Reigns lol I'm actually interested to see if something cool happens tonight. Their last match I saw with them was pretty great, but it's just them tonight and there's no DQ, so I expect the club and uso's are running out. I'm sure Reigns will win no matter what, but overall should be good. Yes! Brawling out into the crowd! I haven't seen this in awhile. Ripping up safety precautions, I like when they are taking advantage of No DQ rules. Yup, played out as expected, but real good match.
Fuck yes, Rollins is back! Pedigree on Roman after his win! I am bummed Styles lost, but now we got Rollins back fighting for it!
Overall, another pretty solid PPV with only a couple lowpoints, but the IC belt match was great, Reigns vs Styles was great, I liked Rusev vs Kalisto, Usos vs Club was good, and there were moments in Ambrose vs Jericho that were cool.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 23, 2016, 03:28:01 pm
Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin: Didn't saw this one even when I received a notification at my Youtube account that it was being aired. Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson: Not the best match but I was surprised that the people where cheering the Club and not Roman cousins. Kalisto vs. Rusevp: My wife and I got a doubt/question and that's why the hell the ref allowed Rusev to continue kicking Kalisto if he was injured, I mean the doc was checking him and the ref was trying to give the little guy some time to rest. The New Day vs. The Vaudevillains: We really were expecting to see Kofi in this one unfortunately he wasn't there, the match was pretty good and my wife got mad every time that the Vaudevillanis entered the ring with out being the legal man but she didn't said anything when Kingston helped the team to win this one. The Miz vs. Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Sami Zayn: Best fucking match of the event, totally loved how Sami puts Kevin down as soon as the bell announced that the match was started, I was cheering Sami, my wife was cheering Cesaro and my daughters where cheering Owens the poor Miz was the one that nobody wanted to win and it was the damn bastard that retained the belt, really want to see tonight Raw show just to see how Shane and Stephanie will try to solve this. Charlotte vs. Natalya: Didn't went to the bathroom as usual cause we really wanted to see this one where I do have to admit that even without Rick the performance of the champ was very good, it was to bad that somebody interfered here by the way who was that big ass that helped Charlotte ? Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho: Without a doubt the best second match of the night, we were laughing every time that Jericho asked the outside ref to open the door, guess that t was painful for Y2J cause the poor man was all red and am not talking about the blood, the worst mistake for him it sure was not wearing a shirt. Roman Reigns vs. AJ Styles: Wasn't expecting that much of this one and am glad that I was wrong even when the phenomenal didn't won the belt (I still think that it's to soon to give him a chance) the match was pretty good, the damn Aj delivered eleven chair hits, guess that he was mad cause they were pretty good, all of them.
Talking about a great entrance can't deny that Rollins know how to made one, can't wait to see tonight's Raw and see what comes next, still wonder if he will team up again with Owens like in the past, as far as I remember he owes KO some favors.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 25, 2016, 01:36:59 pm
I usually don't like to double post but this one really deserves to be an exception, I saw yesterday this past Monday Raw show where people went totally crazy when Rollins came to the ring to give us one of his famous speech, it's kinda ironical that they where cheering a heel and that they booed the face anyway we now got an official match for the event Money in the Bank thanks to the all might Shane also four contenders have won their right to be in the ladder match ...
Sami Zayn defeated Sheamus, Cesaro defeated The Miz, Chris Jericho defeated Apollo Crews, Dean Ambrose defeated Dolph Ziggler and Kevin Owens defeated AJ Styles
... guess that the results from this past Smackdown has already been released but haven't read anything cause want to see it by myself ;D
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: weirdfeline on May 25, 2016, 04:06:42 pm
Brand split soon and Smackdown is going to start airing live in July!
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 25, 2016, 05:36:58 pm
Well, had I known this, I might not have returned my DVR lol Guess I'll just stick with catching the highlights on Youtube. Reading up on the brand split, this would make for better shows, simply because we would have less rehashing of matches. It was always annoying that there would be one matchon Raw and then we'd see the same match again sometimes or just small variations. Having two different shows with different people would make them both pretty fresh. From the sound of it, Smackdown might become what is essentially a bigger version of NXT. That the newer people might go into there first from NXT or new hires. It would create different levels for WWE, with RAW staying with all the bigger company people for the most part.
It'll certainly be interesting.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 25, 2016, 08:26:19 pm
Brand split soon and Smackdown is going to start airing live in July!
Fucking awesome and now I just want to know three little things, in which brand it will be Kevin Owens, in the past I had the idea that he was part of Smackdown, second which company will be under the management of Shane and the best of all, are why going to have two belts again ?, am tired of see Reigns as the champ ;D
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 25, 2016, 08:56:21 pm
I imagine we'll get two belts and more PPV's on the network. I was reading an article that said they basically need to do this because their roster is so huge, as PPV's can only allow so much time to invested. After you put in anything belt related or have the biggest names, there's very few spots leftover for anything else that people might want.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 26, 2016, 09:10:03 pm
I was reading an article that said they basically need to do this because their roster is so huge
Weird cause have been watching some videos and almost all of them said that they will need to hire more wrestlers, want to believe that they don't want to show the same wrestlers over and over every single night, what they can do is to move some people from NXT (cof cof Samoa Joe, Shinsuke Nakamura cof cof) to the main roster so that way the new people can be in this show but I really don't care to much if they hire of not, what I want and what the WWE need to do is to have two belts anyway here is the video of the wrestlers that I mentioned at my previous post:
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on May 27, 2016, 12:47:43 pm
Brand split soon and Smackdown is going to start airing live in July!
It sucked the first time they did it, and I don't see it being any better this time around. All it does is limit your match-ups and booking ability.
And the roster being too big? Really? Because they've had a mass wave of firings in the last month or so. A whole bunch of guys getting let go.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 27, 2016, 03:49:34 pm
The roster remark was in regard to things related to PPV's. Once you put belt stuff on the docket, that takes up most of the time available. Any other feuds or events people want to see just can't be shown when you basically hit on all the big, prominent, guys. And soon we'll start seeing more big guys return. I mean, they can't show everyone, but if they want to try and do more stories and battles between people, they aren't likely to get a big payoff at the PPV event unless they are one of the big popular guys.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on May 30, 2016, 11:18:10 am
A fifth contender has now joined the Money in the Bank ladder match, I'm talking about Alberto Del Rio who defeated Zack Ryder at this past SmackDown show, really was hoping to see Ryder at the big event, the man deserves a push after what happened to him and the IC Championship >:(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 30, 2016, 05:15:59 pm
A fifth contender has now joined the Money in the Bank ladder match, I'm talking about Alberto Del Rio who defeated Zack Ryder at this past SmackDown show, really was hoping to see Ryder at the big event, the man deserves a push after what happened to him and the IC Championship >:(
But that would mean that WWE is actually doing stuff that people want and they can't have that! lol
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Post by: doafan on May 31, 2016, 09:42:19 am
Didn't knew that I already have a channel that transmit Raw and SmackDown so yesterday was able to watch a couple of matches, the one of Enzo and Cassady against the Dudley Boys was pretty good to bad that the aired version had a lot of TV commercials, lame Cena has came back and was well "received" by Styles had my doubts about this reunion but I totally loved that The Club is again reunited, we had a match of Natalya vs. Dana Brooke or should I say boobs and ass match, not the big deal cause of Charlotte but liked the new feud that it has started, Dolph Ziggler had his revenge against Baron Corbin even when it was another short match was very pleased with the result and the main event of the night was without doubt the best one, can't wait to see the event of this month ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on May 31, 2016, 02:04:11 pm
So announcing the brand-split this early kind of takes the focus off of the current product, doesn't it? Because when this happens, all of these storylines and feuds will abrubtly end. It makes this next month kind of pointless, storywise.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 31, 2016, 02:07:09 pm
So announcing the brand-split this early kind of takes the focus off of the current product, doesn't it? Because when this happens, all of these storylines and feuds will abrubtly end. Kind makes this next month kind of pointless, storywise.
It's still like a good 2 months out and there aren't really a whole lot of big feuds or stories going on right now that I can think of that probably couldn't end by then. Rollins and Reigns will clearly stay on Raw, so if they keep that going for awhile, it won't get stalled.
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Post by: doafan on June 01, 2016, 10:51:49 am
Rollins and Reigns will clearly stay on Raw, so if they keep that going for awhile, it won't get stalled.
Following your rule hope that Styles can stay at RAW too I mean he started a feud with Cena and really don't think that old Vince will gonna move his superstar to SmackDown guess that the feud of K.O and Sami will also continue but am not quite sure in which brand ???
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 02, 2016, 07:10:12 pm
Some talk is saying that apparently with the Rollins and Reigns push on Raw, that Cena and Styles could be the big face/heel matchup over on Smackdown. Which would make sense if you want to give Smackdown some real significance by putting two big guys like that on the top over there. That could certainly give Styles a chance at whatever Smackdown belt I'd assume they'd have to have for it.
Also I almost forgot that the next NXT TakeOver event is coming up called "The End" on June 8th, which is their first steel cage match for NXT of Balor vs Joe for the belt to end their feud. I expect Joe wins so Balor can move up, especially with the brand split. Balor debuting on Smackdown going live would be big. Asuka vs Jax could be alright, mostly just cause I love Asuka and of course Nakamura vs Aries could be good, but again, it's Nakamura so I could watch him fight anyone. There's also the debut of some guy named Almas, a mexican wrestler who's done a house show or two, but this is big proper debut and he'll be fighting Dilinger. Also there's American Alpha vs The Revival, which should be fine.
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Post by: doafan on June 03, 2016, 11:07:46 am
There's also the debut of some guy named Almas, a mexican wrestler who's done a house show or two, but this is big proper debut and he'll be fighting Dilinger.
This made my day cause this wrestler is well known here in Mexico as La Sombra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Sombra_%28wrestler%29), he is part or it was of the CMLL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consejo_Mundial_de_Lucha_Libre) (Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre) the same company that once had El Patron Alberto del Rio so I really hope to see more about him in the WWE universe ;D
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Post by: doafan on June 07, 2016, 10:07:16 am
Wanted to post this yesterday when I was watching RAW but was to excited watching the return of Teddy Long that even after the show I totally forgot to share it, yes Theodore Long made an appearance and he made clear that he wants to run SmackDown again but that wasn't all, he gave Stephanie the idea of a Fatal 4-Way tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship with the following teams: The New Day vs. Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows vs. Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. The Vaudevillains have to admit that I was kinda sad that they left out the Dudley Boys but since they are being losing every single match that they have really don't care that much, now we got four official matches for this Money in the Bank 2016 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2016, 07:41:10 pm
NXT: The End is about to go off and I'll skip predictions for this one as I think it's pretty obvious who will win for the most part and it's not a really huge show, but should be some real solid fun. Also I find it amazing that Babymetal "Karate" is one of the official songs for the event. Very fitting, especially to promote Asuka lol Love it.
Also to confirm, Kevin Owens and Shinsuke Nakamura are set for a WWE Japan show. Sadly this could just be a house show and not shown on the network which is so lame. There's a small chance they'll treat the event like they did with "Beast in the East" from last year, but seeing that there haven't been any promotion for it, I feel not, but man they are dropping the ball not showing this. I know it would happen eventually once Nakamura comes to the main roster, but I really want this. Zayn vs Nakamura was fantastic and Owens has apparently fought him once before at an event in 2014.
Also to confirm, Kevin Owens and Shinsuke Nakamura are set for a WWE Japan show. Sadly this could just be a house show and not shown on the network which is so lame.
Very lame I didn't knew anything about this but really hope that some fans can record this with their cell phones, there are some good awesome matches that weren't aired and are available thanks to this people.
Zayn vs Nakamura was fantastic and Owens has apparently fought him once before at an event in 2014.
As a fan of Steen/Owens allow me to say that you need to watch this one, sorry for the quality but the one that I saw at Daylimotion is no longer available.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2016, 10:22:13 pm
So I was mostly right with NXT: The End. Got the tag team match wrong as it went back to The Revival. Good matches overall, though it was abit disappointing that the Almas match to kick off the show was so short. Felt like it barely got going when it ended. Kinda wish he kept the mask on, love more lucha guys, but I'm sure he'll be fun to see when he does some proper matches.
Shinsuke vs Aries was great. They made sure to put Shinsuke through the ringer on this one and I actually thought he might lose at one point, but great match.
The tag team match was great, Gable and Jordan are good stuff. Definitely standing out for me. Some surprise heels came in after the loss and beat on America Alpha, didn't know who they were, but they are apparently Sunny Dhinsa & Gzim Selmani, the Authors of Pain. Two thickly built dudes being managed by a well known WWE guy called Paul Ellering.
Asuka vs Jax was better than I was expecting, since this is gonna be a more limited match for Asuka, but they played up Jax's strength and size real well and it was just the right length where it didn't feel like it would get too boring, since people like Jax aren't gonna last for too long. Of course the "Empress" won cause she's awesome lol
Joe vs Balor was pretty much how it should be. Lots of good spots and a pretty intense ending with Joe retaining. Now to see if maybe Balor will make the move to the main roster since he's out of the running for the NXT title or if they are gonna hold him back for abit longer till they get a stronger top group going again.
Slight bonus was Neville in the crowd at NXT all bearded up from recovery. Hopefully that means he'll show back up soon.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 09, 2016, 09:58:53 am
Look at what my wife got me for anniversary! She knows me. Blu-Ray edition.
(Sorry for the blurry pic, I left my camera at work and this is from my crappy cellphone.)
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Post by: burningdoom on June 10, 2016, 12:36:58 pm
How awesome is this? WWE may have TNA's finest they've ever had after this between AJ Styles, Austin Aries, Samoa Joe, and now Bobby Roode!
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Post by: doafan on June 10, 2016, 12:47:34 pm
We need Kurt Angle (yes he was part of the WWE first) and I can die in peace, nah am kidding would love to see a match between him against Owens, Dean, Rollins, Sami or even Cesaro ;D
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Post by: doafan on June 13, 2016, 09:00:46 pm
Don't like to double post but since am watching tonight Raw at the office am kinda excited to watch the reunion of the Shield at Dean's Ambrose Asylum, will continue updating the post cause Seth is the first guess at the lunatic show:
* Well Ambrose has made quite a show and I won't gonna give any kind of spoilers apart that I really loved when they started talking about old good times but after what just saw can only say, damn now I can't wait to see the event this next Sunday. * The little interview of Cesaro and Sami was kinda fun, Zayn saying that he and Cesaro are equal was good but the answer of Cesaro telling him that he has been with the WWE for four years and Sami for only months was epic, indeed they may be friends but being it the WWE means that you have to start again from zero, not a big fan of Cesaro even when he choose my real name for his career. * Lol the match between Sami vs Cesaro was short, really wasn't expect that move but now am gonna see what happens at the contract sign of lame Cena and AJ Styles. * The segment of Owens and Alberto was funny has hell even when I was expecting to see a match of these two, seeing Del Rio speaking spanish and Kevin french was hilarious cause Alberto was acting like a mad mexican, it's a shame that he didn't called KO a puto! ;D * Wow the sign contract was better that I was expecting, specially the last words of Styles, am speechless. * The match of Owens and Alberto was kinda lame but the request of Kevin to Stephanie solved this. * Shane wants to run Smackdown, was hoping to see him running Raw.
They manged to take down the live signal from where I was watching the show so guess that I'll have to download it tomorrow just to see how things ended, damn.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 14, 2016, 12:39:52 am
I don't have a cable box anymore, but Raw basically posts most of the show in clip form on Youtube, so I'll catch up on everything there. Hoping for something good at Money in the Bank this Sunday which is my birthday! Cake, some gifts, good food, and then end the night having some drinks to wrestling lol
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Post by: doafan on June 14, 2016, 01:26:41 pm
I don't have a cable box anymore, but Raw basically posts most of the show in clip form on Youtube, so I'll catch up on everything there. Hoping for something good at Money in the Bank this Sunday which is my birthday! Cake, some gifts, good food, and then end the night having some drinks to wrestling lol
Hulu has it the day after. And if you dropped cable, Hulu is the best thing to get anyways. You don't have to wait a freaking year for the new episodes of shows from TV like you do Netflix, just one day.
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Post by: doafan on June 19, 2016, 01:22:22 pm
We are a couple of hours before tonight's event and this time wont gonna give my impressions about the matches just gonna share the official list of all of them but am gonna highlight those that won't gonna take my eyes apart, my wife and my girls are gonna watch the show with me cause I have been talking all these past days about it ;D
* The Lucha Dragons vs. The Dudley Boyz: Tag team match * The Golden Truth (Goldust and R-Truth) vs. Breezango (Tyler Breeze and Fandango) : Tag team match * Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins: Singles match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship * John Cena vs. AJ Styles: Singles match * Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho: Money in the Bank ladder match for a WWE World Heavyweight Championship match contract * The New Day vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson vs. Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. The Vaudevillains : Fatal 4-Way tag team match for the WWE Tag Team Championship * Rusev (with Lana) vs. Titus O'Neil: Singles match for the WWE United States Championship * Charlotte and Dana Brooke vs. Natalya and Becky Lynch: Tag team match * Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin: Singles match * Apollo Crews vs. Sheamus: Singles match
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 19, 2016, 01:36:45 pm
About the same for the matches for me. I don't think Reigns will lose, Cena vs Styles has the possibility to be interesting, even if I don't particularly like Cena as a wrestler, the Money in the Bank match I feel could go to Ambrose, who then would either cash in or cause shenanigans between Reigns and Rollins. I'm good with Owens, Cesaro, Zayn, and Ambrose winning the briefcase. For the 4 way, I'm kinda interested in where it goes. I don't know if New Day retains, as they are trying to push for the "new era", so I think "The Club" or Enzo and Cass win it, because I don't like The Vaudevillains lol
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Post by: doafan on June 19, 2016, 01:51:57 pm
Cena vs Styles has the possibility to be interesting, even if I don't particularly like Cena as a wrestler
Only the little boys and girls, the ladies and my wife yes I admit it like Cena he was kinda better when he was The Prototype (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAKnGujUVM)
the Money in the Bank match I feel could go to Ambrose, who then would either cash in or cause shenanigans between Reigns and Rollins.
The WWE writers missed their chance to make Ambrose a Heel, I mean when Rollins was injured and Reigns became the champ Ambrose could have joined the authority and that way being helped by HHH he can easily became the champ but well as you say Ambrose could win this one, it will be the perfect opportunity to have these three reunited again but this time in a feud situation.
For the 4 way, I'm kinda interested in where it goes. I don't know if New Day retains, as they are trying to push for the "new era", so I think "The Club" or Enzo and Cass win it, because I don't like The Vaudevillains lol
Really want to see Enzo and Cass as the new tag team champs, they deserved the titles about tha Vaudevillains nobody like them they are just like Primo & Epico.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 19, 2016, 02:06:17 pm
Really want to see Enzo and Cass as the new tag team champs, they deserved the titles about tha Vaudevillains nobody like them they are just like Primo & Epico.
They are the epitome of great characters. Just too much fun like what New Day became.
It's why Roman isn't liked, aside from the awful push, is that he doesn't have the character. Cena made it, because generally he is very likable and can be good on the mic, which can make up for his lesser wrestling skills. Roman is usually awful on the mic, though he's gotten better with his wrestling lately as I think as his matches with Styles were awesome. He does sell stuff better than Cena though. Cena is too stiff to sell things well enough lol
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Post by: doafan on June 19, 2016, 02:21:28 pm
Roman is usually awful on the mic, though he's gotten better with his wrestling lately as I think as his matches with Styles were awesome.
With the wrestling skills you probably are right but with the Mic he still talks like that bulldog from the Tom & Jerry cartoons, if am not wrong its name is Spike and about his matches with Styles they were awesome because of the phenomenal AJ, just admit it ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 19, 2016, 02:23:58 pm
Roman is usually awful on the mic, though he's gotten better with his wrestling lately as I think as his matches with Styles were awesome.
With the wrestling skills you probably are right but with the Mic he still talks like that bulldog from the Tom & Jerry cartoons, if am not wrong its name is Spike and about his matches with Styles they were awesome because of the phenomenal AJ, just admit it ;D
Oh certainly, AJ was the biggest factor, but I think it being Styles, Roman took it up a notch and there were a lot of big hits taken and they both went all out.
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Post by: doafan on June 19, 2016, 02:36:02 pm
Oh certainly, AJ was the biggest factor, but I think it being Styles, Roman took it up a notch and there were a lot of big hits taken and they both went all out.
Totally agree which speaking of Styles wonder if his partners will come into the ring to help him even when he signed the contract of fighting alone.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 19, 2016, 08:47:07 pm
Hoping the top three matches turn out to be good. The tag team match was abit messy. Everything else was kinda nothing, especially the Golden Truth vs Breezango thing. Apparently Breezango got sunburned or something and they had to act that up the whole time. It wasn't really funny and not pay per view material, though it was just the kickoff. Dudley's vs Lucha was alright, but that was it. Tag Team match was fine, some good spots, but the 4 way matches with tag teams get so messy and there were timing issues. And no one cares about the Ziggler/Corbin thing lol
And Nat just went heel on Becky after they lost...Are there literally no babyfaces in the womens division other than like Becky? Guess that means its time for the ultimate babyface to show up...BAILEY!
Is the STF basically one of the worst looking moves ever? It's the least intimidating hold, because he's just squeezing the side of the guys head and not really doing anything that would make you think your hurting him. The Accolade that Rusev does? I have literal experience in a move like that and it hurts like crazy if you are really doing it.
Cena vs Styles alright, mostly because they played around with some of the expectations you would have in a Cena match. I still hate the shenanigans end, but it wasn't unexpected. I still think Styles vs Reigns was a better match, both times, but man, people were all over this match and that really helps sell a match lol
Money in the Bank match was great. Bit behind in the broadcast, but I'm fully expecting a cash in tonight. Lets see if it happens...
Dear god that double clothesline with Rusev and Titus. Serious power behind it.
I think it's funny that Reigns is basically wearing Rollins colors now of black and gold lol
Great match that went how I thought, but was executed in a way I didn't expect. Good stuff.
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Post by: doafan on June 20, 2016, 10:30:25 am
* The Lucha Dragons vs. The Dudley Boyz: Didn't saw the match in fact only saw what WWE uploaded to their Youtube channel and didn't like it but if am wrong please let me know and I'll watch it, the Kickshow was uploaded yesterday to their channel. * The Golden Truth vs. Breezango: It appears that this was the funny match of the night and definitely will gonna give it a try, not today cause of course am gonna watch tonight Raw with my daughter. * The New Day vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson vs. Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. The Vaudevillains: I was pretty sure that Enzo and Cass were about to become the new tag team champs, the match was quite interesting my wife and my daughter came to the room just to see The New Day, they love these dudes * Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin: I used the time of this match to went to the bathroom, check my messages even to play some games at the smart phone but it appears that didn't missed the big deal, dunno why these two started the feud and to be honest I really don't care. * Charlotte and Dana Brooke vs. Natalya and Becky Lynch: Poor Becky nobody loves her, I will but am married nah am kidding, the match was not the big deal but to be honest I paid more attention to this one that the previous one, my wife still says that Charlotte is gaining some weight, dunno where cause her boobs and butt looks the same to me, guess that she is kinda jealous of her figure anyway now I need to know if Natalya is gonna stay as a hell or if she is gonna apologize with Becky. * Apollo Crews vs. Sheamus: Second time to do anything instead of watching the match, really don't like the idea that they started the feud because of Sheamus performance/appearance at the TMNT movie. * John Cena vs. AJ Styles: Indeed it was a dream match and all the people there totally knew it, AJ performance as always was the best even when Cena tried to keep the level was notable that the moves of Styles were more fluid and more enjoyable to watch, this is the first time that my wife had doubts about her "boyfriend" and she is a hardcore fan of Cena, neither both of us liked the ending of this match but she seriously got mad when Luke and Anderson came into the ring, we need a re match for this one. * Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Chris Jericho: For me the best match of the event even when none of the two wrestlers that I was expecting to win took the briefcase, Sami was the one that almost earn the contract but he never accomplished it, Owens five star frog splash perfect but that move that Zayn applied to KO into the ladder was more painful than another move in the whole match, my wife predictions were right cause she was cheering to Cesaro and Dean, she went nuts when this last one won the match, she immediately took photos of Ambrose having the briefcase just to upload them into her Facebook account. * Rusev (with Lana) vs. Titus O'Neil: Totally forgot about this match and really dunno why they put this one almost at the end but I was glad cause I was able to prepare some snacks for the last match, Rusev won and really don't know if he cheated or received some kind of help from Lana. * Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins: Amazing simply amazing Reings performance is getting better but without a doubt Rollings took the match now we can say that the earned the title the right way (without the help or without cheating) that missed spear of Roman outside the ring was hilarious but Ambrose cashing the contract the same night was crazy, was expecting to see him at the crown and not under the ring as the commentator said, now we can have a triple threat match cause both Roman and Seth have the chance to reclaim the title, really hope that they wont screw it.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 20, 2016, 12:59:10 pm
WWE has suspended Roman Reigns for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company’s talent wellness policy. (http://www.wwe.com/article/roman-reigns-suspended)
Reigns issued a statement on Twitter regarding his suspension: “I apologize to my family, friends and fans for my mistake in violating WWE’s wellness policy,” Reigns tweeted. "No excuses. I own it." as far I know the suspension was because he had failed a Wellness policy test, in which part is good so that way we can have the triple threat match for August event.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 21, 2016, 06:46:11 pm
Wow, that's out of nowhere. I'm glad we are gonna see a triple threat match with them still, but Reigns needs to keep things in check.
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Post by: doafan on June 22, 2016, 05:21:31 pm
Can't believe that nine years have passed since the incident with the Benoit family the most sad part is that I get blamed at my Youtube account because I wrote a message where I only said that hoped that he might rest in peace, damn.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 22, 2016, 07:12:49 pm
Can't believe that nine years have passed since the incident with the Benoit family the most sad part is that I get blamed at my Youtube account because I wrote a message where I only said that hoped that he might rest in peace, damn.
It's crazy how many people just explode when his name is mentioned.
It was a tragedy, no doubt. But I think a lot of people forget that he was completely out of his mind when it happened. The autopsy results showed that his brain was basically swiss-cheesed from the incredible amount of concussions he received in his career. (That autopsy is a big reason why sports have such strict policies regarding concussions nowadays.)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 22, 2016, 07:17:12 pm
Can't believe that nine years have passed since the incident with the Benoit family the most sad part is that I get blamed at my Youtube account because I wrote a message where I only said that hoped that he might rest in peace, damn.
It's crazy how many people just explode when his name is mentioned.
It was a tragedy, no doubt. But I think a lot of people forget that he was completely out of his mind when it happened. The autopsy results showed that his brain was basically swiss-cheesed from the incredible amount of concussions he received in his career. (That autopsy is a big reason why sports have such strict policies regarding concussions nowadays.)
It's sad it took something so tragic to force companies to change, but that's usually how it goes anymore.
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Post by: doafan on June 23, 2016, 11:40:40 am
It's crazy how many people just explode when his name is mentioned.
It was crazier when Triple reacted to the chants of the public at one of the NXT shows, I mean come on you cannot deny the past or the existence of Chris Benoit, maybe they can do it at the web page of the company but not from the memories of all his fans, still have a lot of doubts about this tragedy but am not gonna talk about that here.
It's sad it took something so tragic to force companies to change, but that's usually how it goes anymore.
In fact he wasn't the first one because when Eddie Guerrero died cause after a week later they started or implemented the Wellness Policy, fucking sad that he has to past away, some people says that this wasn't the first case but since he was a Top Star Vince and WWE had to act to ensure that these premature, drug-related deaths didn't happen in the future, both were my favorite wrestlers in the company and can't deny that I cried like a fucking baby when I heard the news.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 05, 2016, 11:25:32 pm
Not exactly stoked for Cena vs Styles, as I'm not a huge Cena fan (not a complete hater though), though it is a Styles match which is always great, but this is certainly a way to turn up the feud, by having Styles & The Club vs Cena w/Enzo & Cass. YEAH. Slightly random booking, but I'm all over more Enzo & Cass since this should be a big push for them.
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Post by: doafan on July 06, 2016, 02:38:25 pm
With the Six-Man tag team match announced this past Monday we now have four official matches for the event, still wonder what the hell is going to happen with the one for the Championship, I mean Reigns will be out for the event because of his suspension there are even some rumors that the WWE forced him to apologize with the rest of the wrestlers for his wellness violation so if this is true am quite sure that they won't gonna allow to be part of this match anyway about the match between Sami and Kevin I really hope that this will be the last one of this two, am getting tired of seeing this feud, Zayn needs to start getting some achievements by himself cause he haven't won anything since his arrival at the WWE >:(
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Post by: burningdoom on July 06, 2016, 02:46:53 pm
Did anyone see the "Final Deletion" match between Jeff and Matt Hardy on TNA?
Weirdest damn thing I've ever seen in wrestling:
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 06, 2016, 05:10:53 pm
With the Six-Man tag team match announced this past Monday we now have four official matches for the event, still wonder what the hell is going to happen with the one for the Championship, I mean Reigns will be out for the event because of his suspension there are even some rumors that the WWE forced him to apologize with the rest of the wrestlers for his wellness violation so if this is true am quite sure that they won't gonna allow to be part of this match anyway about the match between Sami and Kevin I really hope that this will be the last one of this two, am getting tired of seeing this feud, Zayn needs to start getting some achievements by himself cause he haven't won anything since his arrival at the WWE >:(
Reigns is at Battleground, his suspension was only up till that point.
Reigns is at Battleground, his suspension was only up till that point.
So he will make his come back at the event ?, call me paranoid but the same shit happened when he had his match against Triple H, that time when Hunter broke Reigns nose anyway am also wondering what the hell or how the fuck that that shit of the Authority ended ? :-\
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 10, 2016, 12:32:53 am
Reading the rumor mill and Balor could be showing up on the main show this month. Perhaps debuting on Smackdown Live or the RAW before that? Also Orton will be back to fight Lesnar at Summerslam this year. Could be alright maybe.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 10, 2016, 01:20:35 am
Reading the rumor mill and Balor could be showing up on the main show this month. Perhaps debuting on Smackdown Live or the RAW before that? Also Orton will be back to fight Lesnar at Summerslam this year. Could be alright maybe.
I think a lot of NXT guys will be part of The Draft since a lot of the past stars rumored to be a part of it have since been debunked, and WWE needs more talent to fill-out both rosters, plus an NXT roster and a Cruiserweight Classic roster.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 11, 2016, 05:31:41 pm
So Vinnie Mac is finally back to address the elephant in the room: Who's getting control of Smackdown?
Despite the train-wreck that it was, it seems that the god-awful Final Deletion match between Jeff & Matt Hardy pulled in the highest ratings it's ever done since moving to Pop TV.
While I wasn't a fan of it, I'm all for ANY wrestling getting noticed. Wrestling (especially outside of WWE) really needs all the help it can get.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 11, 2016, 05:53:03 pm
Despite the train-wreck that it was, it seems that the god-awful Final Deletion match between Jeff & Matt Hardy pulled in the highest ratings it's ever done since moving to Pop TV.
While I wasn't a fan of it, I'm all for ANY wrestling getting noticed. Wrestling (especially outside of WWE) really needs all the help it can get.
Yeah I tried to watch like 5 minutes or so of Final Deletion and it was pretty bad I thought. I'm not sure why it was seemingly so popular. Apparently there might be sorta something similar with New Day and The Wyatts tonight, which will probably be more interesting I hope just because both sets of guys are just extra entertaining. I hope Luke Harper is just there sitting in a rocking chair the whole time lol
*EDIT* Watching RAW tonight. Royal Rumble start isn't too bad. And yeah, they are straight up doing a kind of Final Deletion type of setup for New Day and the Wyatts with some fight going on at the "Wyatt Compound". That and McMahon stating who will get Smackdown and RAW will make tonight worth watching probably. I see that the CWC is happening this Wednesday, so I'll probably watch that.
Ah yeah, Nakamura vs Balor on NXT. I'll have to get my subscription back up for all this good stuff this month.
I know I'm not watching with HD, so the quality wasn't the best for the New Day/Wyatt bit, but man the editing, filters, and shaky cam were kinda bad. It's like there was no real build up for this either. They just kinda tossed New Day into a field and then had some back and forth beat downs. Was kinda underwhelming, yet still more entertaining than Final Deletion lol
And basically as expected, Stephanie is running RAW and Shane O gets Smackdown. Next week on RAW, they'll pick their own General Managers to basically help run things, so I assume this could be where things get more interesting.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 12, 2016, 10:59:28 am
Well, I liked the Wyatt Compund match. I know, I'm a hypocrite since I gave the Hardyz' Final Deletion Match so much crap.
But it didn't come off quite as cheesy here. It really fit considering The Wyatt's characters. And it was a bit creepy the way it was filmed and how it went down; the Hardyz's match just felt like a low-budget spectacle.
That said, it wasn't perfect. I know they were trying to make it creepier by doing this, but I hated the random images that were thrown in-between frames. It made the action hard to watch. (Reminded me of that god-awful camera in the Transformers movies.) I think it would have worked better if it were filmed like normal, but still use the basic same idea or going to their compound and getting mind-fucked.
What did you guys think of the Wyatt Compound match?
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Post by: burningdoom on July 12, 2016, 11:38:48 am
***SPOILERS AHEAD***
So Shane McMahon is new Commissioner of Smackdown, and Stephanie is the new Commissioner of Raw. But now they have to pick General Managers for their shows on Raw next week?
Is it just me, or does that seem a bit redundant? Do we really need both a Commissioner and a General Manager for both shows? Aren't they pretty much the same position but with different names?
Anyways, who do you think are in the runnings for these positions? Who are your picks?
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Post by: burningdoom on July 12, 2016, 11:53:44 am
I'm pretty excited for this release. Over 7 hours of unreleased matches and footage from the Attitude Era is promised!
Well, I liked the Wyatt Compund match. I know, I'm a hypocrite since I gave the Hardyz' Final Deletion Match so much crap.
But it didn't come off quite as cheesy here. It really fit considering The Wyatt's characters. And it was a bit creepy the way it was filmed and how it went down; the Hardyz's match just felt like a low-budget spectacle.
That said, it wasn't perfect. I know they were trying to make it creepier by doing this, but I hated the random images that were thrown in-between frames. It made the action hard to watch. (Reminded me of that god-awful camera in the Transformers movies.) I think it would have worked better if it were filmed like normal, but still use the basic same idea or going to their compound and getting mind-fucked.
What did you guys think of the Wyatt Compound match?
It was better handled than Final Deletion, but I thought the filming was pretty bad. Too much filters and shaky cam. It also felt abit too random with them kinda just showing up in a field and maybe it would actually involve more interaction between them, because what New Day and Bray Wyatt do is talk well. It wasn't terrible, but they could've done it way better. I have to wonder if this is them building up for New Day to lose to the Wyatts. They've tried other things with New Day, so maybe they turn the Wyatt family into a tag team trio? I think we are at the point with either Battleground or Summerslam being the point they drop the belts. I think they need something refresh them abit and we could use new hype in the tag team scene.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 13, 2016, 01:04:39 pm
My dream picks for General Managers would be Flair for Raw and Bischoff for Smackdown.
They were the two greatest Raw GMs we ever had.
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Post by: doafan on July 13, 2016, 01:26:28 pm
Is it just me, or does that seem a bit redundant? Do we really need both a Commissioner and a General Manager for both shows? Aren't they pretty much the same position but with different names?
Anyways, who do you think are in the runnings for these positions? Who are your picks?
Want to believe that Stephanie and Shane need to have some free time after managing the companies these past months and that's why they want to have a General Manager that represent each show anyways my picks are Vicky Guerrero for Raw and Daniel Brian for SmackDown ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on July 13, 2016, 09:22:23 pm
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 18, 2016, 07:45:12 pm
The last RAW before Smackdown Live and the draft tomorrow. The GM reveals are happening tonight to kickoff RAW. Word is that Stephanie is likely picking HHH, because power couple authority angle continuing, though Shane could be the interesting one. Someone like Daniel Bryan coming back for this is a rumor, though that might be pushing it. Shane will have the interesting pick i think since I'm sure they are gonna have a good guy for it to counter the heel leaders of RAW.
Lucha Dragons have already broken up before the draft to go as singles, though if they both make it onto the same show, they'd probably just be back together anyways. I'd say they'll stay together as neither are super strong on their own, though Kalisto was fine for a little bit, he just got treated kinda poorly with his Ryback feud. I feel like they are stronger and better together as tag teams, especially since the tag team division isn't the strongest right now.
Also it's being said that 6 people will be brought up from NXT. American Alpha is a group in the recent talks, so that would make 2, I assume it has to be Balor and Bayley, which would be four...I feel like they'd do another woman, though I don't know who, Nia Jax maybe? And then they could totally do something crazy like Nakamura, though I felt them doing Balor and Nakamura last week on NXT was them getting that done with because they won't be putting Nakamura on the main shows for abit longer till they get a new batch of guys in as replacements. Plus, Balor is totally teasing the draft right now, so it basically is gonna happen lol
I still need to watch the CWC stuff now that I got my subscription back to the network. I heard good stuff about it.
*EDIT*
Big swerve on the RAW GM choice!
I thought they were going for a heel angle, but nope! Nope! Big nope! wow lol Mick Folely, that's totally cool XD
And Shane turned out to having the choice expected and I'm all over Bryan being back in just any capacity. It's now become the battle of the beards, though Bryan is a lot more clean cut now lol This could could get nuts lol
I love this bit between Cena/Enzo & Cass/The New Day vs The Club/Wyatts. Cena is basically just playing "Old Man Cena" during it lol This tag match will likely be a complete mess, but hopefully an entertaining mess. And it turned out to be very entertaining. Usually anything above a 3 on 3 tends to get hard to follow, but they handled this one real well that you get plenty of great moments. Enzo purposefully wanting Bron was great lol
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Post by: burningdoom on July 19, 2016, 02:52:17 pm
With all the excitement at WWE with The Draft, don't forget that we get 2 edition of TNA Impact this week.
Tonight on Impact a special edition as Destination X goes live! X-Division Champion vs. World Champion in title vs. title match between Eddie Edwards and Bobby Lashley.
Then on Thursday this week, Impact moves to Thursdays with a special extended episode as stars battle it out for the #1 Contendership to the Heavyweight Title.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 19, 2016, 05:42:08 pm
With all the excitement at WWE with The Draft, don't forget that we get 2 edition of TNA Impact this week.
Tonight on Impact a special edition as Destination X goes live! X-Division Champion vs. World Champion in title vs. title match between Eddie Edwards and Bobby Lashley.
Then on Thursday this week, Impact moves to Thursdays with a special extended episode as stars battle it out for the #1 Contendership to the Heavyweight Title.
I barely keep up with NXT and I'm behind on the CWC as it is. I never had too much interest in TNA anyways. Like if Final Deletion was their biggest bit of hype recently, I can't seem myself getting interested in that lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 19, 2016, 07:47:34 pm
And the new era is coming up soon for WWE. I'm kinda hoping for a few surprises, less so who is going where, but more with the NXT call ups and if they have any other special things in store. This is kind of the opportunity to really shake things up.
*EDIT* Things are going different than I thought. I figured that Smackdown might be more of the "new era" guys, but Finn Balor is now on RAW. Seems like it could be more evenly split than I thought. It's not completely unexpected though as Balor is a hugely popular guy, so it makes for him to go to the main roster. I feel like a surprise pick would be Nakamura to Smackdown, but I don't feel like it'll happen quite yet.
Also, this is the first time I've ever seen this, but they are keeping Smackdown running in a smaller box on the side, no sound, while they play ads in a bigger box next to it lol Smart to keep promoting your new show like this.
Is it just me or are the rosters getting overly weighted towards RAW? I know they get more choices being the longer show, but seems like they are just absorbing quite a lot of more people, like I didn't think they could get all of the New Day at once, but Shane only picks Bray Wyatt and not the rest of the Wyatt family? I mean, maybe they can pick them at some point, but Smackdown is lacking tag teams right now and they are down like 7 people in comparison.
Wow, they are breaking up the Club already. My guess is that Gallows and Anderson will join up with Balor and make the Balor Club maybe. American Alpha going to Smackdown is good. Finally a tag team for them, but they are looking pretty lonely right now on the roster lol
And yup, the other choice from NXT was Nia Jax. Seemed like a good possibility alongside Bayley. I wonder who gets her.
Overall, some shakeups, but surprised that Bayley isn't going. I thought her and Balor would be the big choices, but instead Jax, Angela Bliss, Carmella, and Hype Guy that I don't know are coming up, alongside Balor and American Alpha. Guess they need to keep some big women names on the roster till they build up the female list again, since without Jax, I think Asuka and Bayley are the only top women over there right now.
They really should've voted for Nakamura instead of Mojo Rawley lol
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Post by: burningdoom on July 19, 2016, 11:34:26 pm
I think Smackdown got some of the best pics between Ambrose, AJ Styles. Orton, and Bray Wyatt.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 20, 2016, 03:08:56 am
Eh, I'd disagree. RAW gets Rollins, Balor, Zayne, KO, Cesaro, The New Day, Banks, Enzo & Cass, Anderson & Gallows, Rusev, and Lesnar. Smackdown got Ambrose, Styles, Orton, Wyatt, and American Alpha. Garbage Tag Team division for Smackdown also. Ascension? Breezango? Vaudevillains? Uso's are okay and American Alpha are good, but that's it. Womens division is bad also, like there's Becky, but they have no idea how to use her and they are just gonna continue the lame feud with Natalya. Maybe Bliss and Carmella will be something, but I've not seen more than a match or two of theirs. Also I hope either Bliss and Carmella are face characters. Like every female superstar seems to be a heel outside of Becky, who unsurprisingly, has had like every partner turn on her. Need some Bayley and Becky tag team action going on!
I know RAW needs to be the lead, but this seems like a bad pull for Smackdown. There's nothing saying they couldn't just hire a few more guys soon, drag up an extra NXT person or two after Battleground or Summerslam, but I don't think this looks good for Smackdown right now. Speaking of, who gets people from NXT? Is there like a rock, paper, scissors for people Nakamura? Joe? Bayley? Asuka?
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Post by: doafan on July 20, 2016, 10:28:21 am
I think Smackdown got some of the best pics between Ambrose, AJ Styles. Orton, and Bray Wyatt.
Hey wait a minute pal don't forget that they got Cena too (lol), but indeed Raw got more wrestlers than SmackDown...
Raw: Seth Rollins, Charlotte, Finn Bálor, Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar, The New Day, Sami Zayn, Sasha Banks, Chris Jericho, Rusev (with Lana), Kevin Owens, Enzo & Cass, Gallows and Anderson, Big Show, Nia Jax, Neville, Cesaro, Sheamus, Verdad Dorada, Titus O'Neil, Paige, Darren Young (with Bob Backlund), Sin Cara, Jack Swagger, Dudley Boyz, Summer Rae, Mark Henry, Braun Strowman, Bo Dallas, Golden Truth, Alicia Fox, Dana Brooke, Curtis Axel
SmackDown Live: Dean Ambrose, AJ Styles, John Cena, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Becky Lynch, The Miz (with Maryse), Baron Corbin, American Alpha, Dolph Ziggler, Natalya, Alberto Del Río, Los Usos, Demon Kane, Kalisto, Naomi, The Ascension, Zack Ryder, Apollo Crews, Alexa Bliss, Breezango, Eva Marie, The Vaudevillains, Erick Rowan, Mojo Rawley and Carmella
... didn't liked that Owens and Sami are on the same brand, Zayn really needs to start shining by itself and this feud needs to end as soon as possible cause in my opinion this rivalry only slows down Sami's career so hope that it can end at Battleground anyway what the hell happened to Nakamura and Samoa, was expecting the full show to see their names on the list and they never came out and before I start to work because am already at the office but decided to share my opinions instead of doing my job, what will happen to Heath Slater ?
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Post by: burningdoom on July 20, 2016, 12:58:49 pm
So there wasn't like a single surprise entrant in the draft. With all the rumors swirling before the Draft, I figured we'd get at least one past star returning.
Still an exciting episode of Smackdown, but I was a little disappointed that we didn't get a surprise.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 20, 2016, 12:59:50 pm
Really?! We lose The King, just when he was getting back into his heel role groove again. And instead we get freaking David Otunga?! Who was clamoring for David Otunga?!
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 20, 2016, 03:54:48 pm
JBL on Smackdown? Uggh, way to drag Smackdown...down... I don't care that Lawler is gone, I've long not cared for him. RAW is doing better with Graves there, though Saxton is still super bland. I don't know Otunga, so I can't say anything about that.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 20, 2016, 03:57:37 pm
Saxton is fine, IMO. Just a straight play-by-play guy. He's definitely better than Cole.
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Post by: burningdoom on July 20, 2016, 03:58:54 pm
Saxton is fine, IMO. Just a straight play-by-play guy. He's definitely better than Cole.
He is, but he just feels so bland. I don't mind Cole on commentary, he's usually fine and feels like he has abit more personality. I always hated JBL usually. There's being a heel and then there's being obnoxious. Ranallo is probably the best they got and I think Graves is usually pretty right on with what I heard in NXT. I am surprised to see Lawler go though after getting reinstated. Reading more on it, Lawler isn't leaving at least, he's just leaving commentary on Smackdown. Seems like he's just stepping into the role that Booker T has right now.
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Post by: doafan on July 20, 2016, 08:00:51 pm
Am more concerned about the fact that Like Harper might have announced his retirement from the company via Twitter, he wasn't part of yesterday's Draft so it might be true, honestly I want to see him back but that injury and the independent movie that he filmed took his past weeks away from the WWE universe :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 20, 2016, 08:17:01 pm
Am more concerned about the fact that Like Harper might have announced his retirement from the company via Twitter, he wasn't part of yesterday's Draft so it might be true, honestly I want to see him back but that injury and the independent movie that he filmed took his past weeks away from the WWE universe :'(
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Damn, I was wondering why they weren't talking about Harper at all in the draft. I thought he was a pretty solid big guy wrestler as he was always fairly quick. I'm curious if it's actually a retirement or just kayfabe shenanigans, because it looks like he was still playing up things on twitter through the month, so unless something surprising came up, he should've been coming back next month. Really don't want to see him go, because he's basically the best of the Wyatt family next to Bray. Rowan is fine, but not very interesting in style and Bron is just simply big dude and is abit limited in his style as most guys his size tend to be.
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Post by: doafan on July 21, 2016, 07:30:17 pm
Damn, I was wondering why they weren't talking about Harper at all in the draft. I thought he was a pretty solid big guy wrestler as he was always fairly quick.
He is a solid wrestler that's why I had the idea until I saw that message at his account that maybe he would appear at Raw to make a team with Braun Strowman, that way they can still be part of the Wyatt Family in that brand, it would be a good idea since have never seen Strowman by itself in the company, hope that Harper can manage one way or another to still be part of the WWE :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 23, 2016, 04:02:12 pm
Well, tomorrow we got the last WWE PPV with the combined roster, so lets see what we got...
WWE Champion Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins (Triple Threat Match) - I feel like Ambrose will lose it, Rollins will get it back, that way for the start of the brand split, RAW retains the belt for awhile and they can really get Rollins back into the thick of it. I'm cool with this. I like Ambrose, but I like Rollins a lot more lol
John Cena, Enzo Amore & Big Cass vs. The Club - A weird matchup, but this could be fun I think.
Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens - This will also be a good match, but I hope this is them dropping the feud for awhile.
The New Day vs. The Wyatt Family - This one could be alright, both are competent groups, and it seems like they are trying to play up the weird mind games stuff with Wyatt, as they had a match before and Xavier was practically being hypnotized. I don't think this is for the belt and they probably won't drop the belts anyways.
Sasha Banks and a partner to be named vs. Charlotte & Dana Brooke - Kinda done with anything Charlotte, but I'm curious who will be Sasha's partner.
Intercontinental Champion The Miz vs. Darren Young - Don't care too much about this in particular, but I hope The Miz loses it, I hate him lol
United States Champion Rusev vs. Zack Ryder - Maybe Rusev loses it, I'm not sure. I feel like Ryder deserves it after getting shafted by The Miz for the IC Belt.
Becky Lynch vs. Natalya - I like Becky, but this is such a stupid feud. I hope Becky wins at least, they've been treating her like shit.
The Usos vs. Breezango (Kickoff Match) - Could not care less.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 24, 2016, 08:12:23 pm
Came into the show just as the women's match started and whoa! Bayley is Sasha's partner! Maybe she will get called up sooner than later! Short but sweet match, I'm cool with that and it's nice to Bayley, even if it's only for this match. It sounds like she'll be sticking in NXT for at least abit longer, maybe get another go on NXT Women's belt against Asuka.
I like the mindgames angle with Wyatts and New Day, though not sure what the point is when Wyatt and Rowen are going to Smackdown. Maybe this how they shake apart the New Day and they lose the belt because of it? Might be an interesting angle.
Rusev vs Ryder was okay, but it kinda went how I expected with Rusev retaining.
I really hope KO and Zayne are done for abit after this. Both are great, but there's only so much they can do with each other after all these matches. Oh shit, botch by Zayne, could've been real bad. Unfortunate botches today as Big E took a nasty fall onto his head jumping through the ropes, but getting caught up. Botch aside, that match was great. Even if I am getting tired of them battling, they give it their all. Really selling the story of the match too which is awesome.
Was Natalya a heel before this? This feud makes no sense, especially since they were apparently friends. A mixup in a match and that's all over with? Zayne and Owens made sense, this does not lol And another loss for Becky and I assume the end of a feud that no one wanted.
Don't really care about this Darren Young angle with Backlund, but I really want him to win over Miz lol I feel like Miz retains, only because they need a belt to go to Smackdown, since Rusev is taking the US belt to RAW and New Day have it for Raw also and I bet anything Rollins wins it tonight, taking it from Ambrose. Shenanigan DQ. Meh. Miz retains for Smackdown.
Enzo is truly a gem. Always so much fun on the mic. Great tag team action with Cass also utilizing their size differences. Incredibly smart stuff. Great match, lots of good spots, but man that ending was super sloppy by Cena lol
Missed the Highlight Reel with Jericho and Orton, used it as my break time, so I don't know if anything cool happened there. I am hoping Orton RKO'd Jericho just because it's Jericho lol
The best thing about this Triple Threat match with the former Shield mates is that there's a 66% chance I'll like the outcome lol Ambrose could retain, Rollins could take it back, and I'm positive they won't give it to Reigns, because that would be disastrous for the start of the new era happening now. Oh wow, Ambrose won! Very nice, I'm cool with that. Smackdown take the belt!
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Post by: doafan on July 25, 2016, 03:41:20 pm
Will leave my impressions after the event cause I totally forgot to add them before the event, lol ;D
* The Usos vs. Breezango (Kickoff Match): Didn't saw it and I don't regret it. * Sasha Banks and Bayley vs. Charlotte & Dana Brooke: Started to watch the show when this one was practically ending. * The New Day vs. The Wyatt Family: Would like to say that I enjoyed this one but since the Wyatt Family was separated this match make no sense to me, was watching the cellphone instead of watching the match, to bad that they didn't put the belts on the line here. * United States Champion Rusev vs. Zack Ryder: Saw only the results of this one, was expecting to see Ryder as the champ. * Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens: The best fucking match of the Battleground event, at my opinion they totally stole the show also it was me or Sami cried at some moment of the match ?, saw this one at the computer cause my cable provider was experiencing problems with the service so need to watch it again to see if am wrong or not, I swear that I heard an announcer saying that he did it also had to admit that didn't expect the result of this one but I love it just hope that with this we can finally close this feud if not forever just for a while. * Becky Lynch vs. Natalya: This feud makes no sense so I went to the bathroom and to the kitchen. * Intercontinental Champion The Miz vs. Darren Young: Saw this one only for Maryse, she looked so freaking hot to bad that they didn't focus the camera on her that much, about the match I didn't put my full attention on it so can't say that I saw it. * John Cena, Enzo Amore & Big Cass vs. The Clu: Enzo is nuts maybe not as crazy as the lunatic but damn he was the best of the six wrestlers in the ring, was expecting to see Styles team as the winners but after seeing Amore's performance definitely theit team had to won this one, will rank this one as number three. * WWE Champion Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins: My wife was more excited than I, she is kinda obsessed with Dean right now about the match it wasn't the best but indeed was very cool to see the three of them in the ring and making team to beat the hell out of Reigns, if I have to rank the matches this should be number two.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 25, 2016, 05:46:29 pm
Yeah Zayne was showing a lot of emotion at the end of the match, where he flung KO into the turnbuckle and then collapses against him and Zayne holds him like "I've beaten my friend, now I have to finish him." He sold the shit out of it and then finished it back and looking like he was broken up. Not all out crying, but he made the match seem important, which is what mattered.
*EDIT* Totally forgot it was Balor's debut on RAW tonight. He was put into the running for the brand new WWE Universal Champion Belt that RAW is making cause the belt to Smackdown last night. Balor was great. I don't think they'll give him the belt on his first go, but having him in the running is great. He fought it out in a Fatal 4 Way that was really good and then he'll face the winner of the next Fatal 4 Way to be #1 Contender. It'll either be Jericho, Reigns, Zayne, or Sheamus. I'm hoping Zayne of course, cause Balor vs Zayne would be awesome since I never saw them fight in NXT, but again, both are the new guys and I'm unsure if they'll give them their due. I'm worrying about Reigns winning and we get another freaking Reigns vs Rollins thing. I'm so hoping not.
I'm fine with Balor vs Reigns tonight, but Reigns better not win. I don't want to see Reigns vs Rollins yet again. I know Rollins will end up winning it, but Balor vs Rollins at Summerslam would be sick.
Small design aspect that changed for RAW that feels pretty different, is that the commentator table has been moved from ringside to somewhere away from the ring and slightly more elevated. This takes away something that has been a key element in wrestling for as long as I've been watching since the 90's. Maybe they'll bring them back in to ringside for PPV matches, but no longer are people thrown out of the ring and then able to use the tables for big upset moves. I wonder if Smackdown has plans for the same. All I know is that I can't wait for a brawl to happen its way up there and destroy the new setup lol
Glad that Sasha became champion. She's great and I'm glad we are done with Charlotte shenanigans. They got old quite awhile ago.
After that, I missed everything else as I ended up working on getting a spare computer working, but turns out Balor beat Reigns! He gets a championship shot at Summerslam! Yes!
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 26, 2016, 08:17:56 pm
And we get out Smackdown Live start tonight. "6 Pack Match" for the #1 Contender against Ambrose at Summerslam. The 6th member of this match will be chosen out of a Battle Royal tonight, with Wyatt, Cena, Styles, Ziggler, and Corbin already to go in the 6 Pack Match. I assume it's basically just a free for all match like a fatal four way or triple threat.
I wonder if they are going to create their own women's championship belt, like RAW created their own men's championship belt, though the women's side of things is very small. Only 7 wrestlers currently. Then again, I realize that RAW only has 9. I wonder if we'll start to see a talent influx soon.
Also Smackdown is getting their own PPV "Backlash" on September 11th and RAW is getting"Roadblock" for December 18th. Summerslam is mixed and so might Clash of Champions, though no one is sure about that being that it's right after Backlash.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 01, 2016, 08:22:12 pm
Enzo continues to be just the best. I don't know if there's a better new personality than him.
Also, wow, Mixed Gender Tag Match. I wonder how this will go. Flair and Jericho vs Banks and Amore.
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Post by: burningdoom on August 02, 2016, 11:32:40 am
"I want to make a certified G deposit in Sasha's bank."
lol. Enzo just keeps killing it every week!
Toto, I don't think we're in the PG-era anymore.
***SPOILERS AHEAD***
Paul Heyman: "Orton is not man enough to put the RKO on Lesnar."
BOOM!
"RKO! RKO! RKO!"
How awesome was that last night?! That RKO literally came out of nowhere!
And then the escape into the crowd, awesome.
It felt a LOT like DDP vs. Macho Man with DDP's guerilla tactics he was using (since Mach was in the nWo at the time).
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 02, 2016, 06:28:36 pm
"I want to make a certified G deposit in Sasha's bank."
lol. Enzo just keeps killing it every week!
Toto, I don't think we're in the PG-era anymore.
***SPOILERS AHEAD***
Paul Heyman: "Orton is not man enough to put the RKO on Lesnar."
BOOM!
"RKO! RKO! RKO!"
How awesome was that last night?! That RKO literally came out of nowhere!
And then the escape into the crowd, awesome.
It felt a LOT like DDP vs. Macho Man with DDP's guerilla tactics he was using (since Mach was in the nWo at the time).
It's made better when you remember that he's a Smackdown guy, so it's basically him invading the rival brand, simply to RKO their biggest guy lol I loved that. I wasn't super excited for their match before, but now I'm hoping for something cool.
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Post by: doafan on August 03, 2016, 05:42:11 pm
About the last Raw show from July have to say that didn't liked the fact that Stephanie blamed Reigns for losing the match against the lunatic to be quite honest I was expecting that at least tried to figure it out how to recover it, don't like either that they decided to create a new belt instead of bringing back the old World Heavyweight Championship what I did liked is that Kevin and Sami didn't had another of their classics fights, really expect that the feud between these two can have a break for a long time and about Balor's what can I say, loved his performance and the results of his matches.
About SmackDown was expecting a bigger celebration for Ambrose but I guess that it was ok also I was highly surprised to see a new female champion in an aired show, some friends say that this will be WWE primary show, guess that they are kinda right since Cena and Styles are there but they need better ot try something better to do it, haven't seen the two latest shows cause am kinda busy this days repairing my wifes vehicle but really expect to see them this Saturday or Sunday.
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Post by: doafan on August 15, 2016, 05:33:56 pm
SummerSlam is almost here so before I forget to leave my comments will leave them right now, where I have to say first that am kinda surprised and sad at the same point that Sami Sayn is not at the following list anyway and as always am not interested in all the matches so will gonna leave my impressions on those that for sure am gonna watch :
Brock Lesnar (with his wife) vs. Randy Orton: Singles match Finn Bálor vs. Seth Rollins: Balor of course is my favorite here, to bad that the one that will fight against Rollins is the normal Balor and not the demon king but since he will fight against this version at tonight's Raw show am ok with that, at least for now. Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler: Despite the fact that at my home we love Ambrose, my wife is kinda obsesed with him and I have to follow her decisions, I do want to see Dolph as the new champ, is not a lie that he deserves to hold the belt for a couple of months, the guy really knows how to do his job well done. Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte: Singles match for the WWE Women's Championship John Cena vs. AJ Styles: Really expect and want to see Aj as the winner here, even when there are no title on the line I do expect to see a great performance from the phenomenal from Cena I can't and I don't expect anything cause he always use the same moves from each event/show. The Miz (with Maryse) vs. Apollo Crews: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship The New Day vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson: Want to belive that after the surgery or treatment that Big E received from the "doctors" he well be unable to be part of this match, being honest I'll be surprised if he appear at one of this month shows, he practically went nuts and am also sure that the only thing that he Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. Chris Jericho and Kevin Owens: I'm expecting a lot of this match and practically it's because of the past promo from Kevin against Cass where he said that he used to respect the big guy when he was part of NXT and now he doesn't because he is carrying the dead weight of Enzo, guess that the fat of Owens kinda spoke more that usual cause some people think the same way, I really don't give a shit just want to see him kicking Jericho's butt. Rusev (with Lana) vs. Roman Reigns: Singles match for the WWE United States Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 15, 2016, 07:31:09 pm
Lesnar vs Orton could be alright, but I don't expect too much out of this. I like Lesnar, but I've had my fill of him over the pas year or so. The Beast is cool, but I don't think he himself is as interesting as say an Undertaker type of tough guy. I am interested in all the RKO's out of nowhere that should happen lol
Balor vs Rollins is probably the match of the night. I don't know who I want to win more, though I expect it to be Rollins. Balor is too new to suddenly win their new belt, but I wouldn't be against it.
Ambros vs Ziggler. Not a big Ziggler fan, but this could be alright. I think Ambrose will retain, though I wouldn't hate it if Ziggler won.
Cena vs Styles should be another good match, but I hope Styles wins and this is kinda it. Styles needs to move on to someone else.
New Day vs Club. I think we are getting to the point that a tag team championship changeup should happen. No sure if it should go to them, but I'd be good with seeing some heel champions running with it for abit.
Amore/Cass vs Jericho/Owens - I'm not a Jericho fan, but this should be a fun match.
Miz vs Crews. Just lose it, Miz. I have no interest in you. I don't have any in Crews really either, but I'm not annoyed by him lol
Rusev vs Reigns. This could be an alright match. I think this is the level that Reigns needs to stay at for awhile. He's not top level material, so keep him going around this level for awhile.
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Post by: burningdoom on August 18, 2016, 04:43:11 pm
So is it just me, or does it seem like Reigns is coming off as the heel in the storyline between him and Rusev, even though they are trying to make Reigns out to be the good guy?
I mean, interrupting the wedding segment, insulting the bride, and knocking her into the cake is a pretty dick move. And if it was real, it would be fully understandable that Rusev would be so pissed. Am I wrong?
BTW, that was a surprisingly good match on Raw between them. It kind of makes you wonder why they did it before the very same match at the PPV.
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Post by: doafan on August 18, 2016, 08:44:01 pm
The fuck is wrong with the WWE they have suspended three wrestlers today, am talking about Eva Marie, Alberto del Rio and Paige there isn't that much information at the official page about this, they just said that the violated the wellness policy, these mothafuckas suspended Paige at her 24th birthday come on, you have to be an asshole if you are trying to fuck an special occasion like this >:(
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Post by: burningdoom on August 18, 2016, 08:58:27 pm
I don't feel bad for them at all. The rules are very clear on the Wellness Policy. They chose to do whatever drug it was they did. It's only their fault, no one else's.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 18, 2016, 11:46:55 pm
Yeah, plus it's not as bad as CM Punk finding out he was let go on the day of his wedding lol
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Post by: doafan on August 19, 2016, 01:07:21 pm
Yeah, plus it's not as bad as CM Punk finding out he was let go on the day of his wedding lol
That was the worst and practically a kick in the nuts to Punk ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 19, 2016, 10:20:17 pm
Zayn is making it mostly onto Summerslam. He'll be tagging with Neville against the Dudley's in the pre-show. No real build up, but I'm guessing we get that Dudley split from this that they've been teasing. Makes sense to do there or at least on the following RAW. I'll likely miss the entire pre-show, which doesn't matter too much since it's just the pre-show, but I hope I make it back in time for the main show. Driving to Miami with some friends to hang out at a proper arcade.
In the meantime, NXT Brooklyn is tomorrow which should be good. We got Bailey vs Asuka, Nakamura vs Joe, and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to Bailey and Joe coming over to the main roster. I could see Bailey going to RAW unless they want to bolster the weak Smackdown lineup with her. I feel Joe goes Smackdown, because again, they need to bolster Smackdown.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 20, 2016, 08:42:34 pm
I realized how out of the loop I am on NXT lol Been a good few weeks or longer since I last watched NXT.
Aries vs Jose - Some good spots in this one, though it felt a little sloppy at times.
Billie Kay vs Ember Moon - I guess Ember is new, but she has some good moves. Kay I don't know at all, but clearly this is a match to show off Ember. Love her red contacts, outfit, and entrance. She has some pretty fantastic moves. I haven't really been impressed by a lot of the newer women wrestlers since I got back into wrestling, mostly just like...Bayley, Banks, Asuka...Ember is a nice new addition.
Roode vs Almas - I haven't even see Roode fight before, but man have I heard his theme song alot lol GLORIOUS! Love this gimmick. Feels like a more classic wrestling gimmick. I guess this is Roode's first real match in NXT perhaps? I could see why they are pumping it up for him with the kind of entrance he got lol "This is Glorious"...I'm okay with this being a brand new chant lol Think I remember Almas now, being a relatively newer guy who use to be a masked wrestler. He has some good moves for sure.
Some sort of wrestler tease with the only word "Sanity" shown among some chaotic imagery. Usually they at least show a silhouette or something, but guess we'll find out soon enough lol
The Revival vs. Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa - This match was crazy. I wasn't expecting much at first, though the revival can be fine, but it got intense. Lots of close spots and hype moments. These two guys are guaranteed to make NXT or main roster after CWC is over if they haven't already as I know some CWC guys are already getting put onto the rosters and there's a big Cruiserweight push coming up on the main roster. Definitely a must watch match. I gotta catch up on the CWC.
Asuka vs Bayley - I love a match when I'm cheering both on. I feel like Asuka will retain, just because I expect Bailey will be coming up to the main roster, but I could be wrong. Both are just so much fun to watch. Asuka with her crazy style and attitude and Bailey being the most charming of babyfaces ever. The crowd sounds just as split too on this which is the best. Another solid match here, showing why both are great at what they do. The end really does feel like a Bailey send off to me in a big way.
Nakamura vs Joe - Amazingly classy intro for Nakamura with a guy playing violin live lol Match is heavily weighted towards Nakamura I think with the fans lol Still support for Joe, but Nakamura is such a huge fan favorite. Another great match going back and forth.
Overall NXT still does it well, even the weakest match, which I felt was Aries vs Jose, wasn't bad, it just wasn't anything special. Ember's match was meant to be short and show her off, so that worked, Roode's was much the same, but was still a solid match. Everything else is great.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 21, 2016, 09:15:06 pm
Swear to god, the STF by Cena might one of the single worst looking holds ever. It never looks like it's actually squeezing anything. I don't know if I've seen anyone else do anything remotely this bad, at least not currently on the roster. How the hell is this a signature move? This and how poorly he usually sells moves always drive me nuts in Cena matches, otherwise, a good match at Summerslam with Styles lol
Bummed about the Flair vs Banks match. Banks loses it way to fast and it was a sloppy match. You could see the telegraphs for a number of spots from a mile away, though there was one great looking spot with Charlotte trying to slam Banks from the second rope and it getting reversed, but it's just annoying, because I know they can do better.
Skipped the IC belt, because I could not care less about that match and I knew Miz would retain. Sheamus and Cesaro was fine, nothing new. Enzo & Cass vs JeriKO wasn't too bad, KO and Enzo are just too much fun.
So apparently people HATE the Universal Championship? Like the fans were hyped at the entrances for Balor and Rollins, but then they tuned right out, with mocking chants and it took like half the match for them to mostly stop and actually get into the match, which was great. I couldn't figure out what the problem was, but whenever they showed the belt during the match, they booed. It was super weird. I don't really see the big issue with the belt. It's just the World belt in red. Seems simple enough to me.
And Rusev vs Reigns was canceled because Reigns kicked Rusev's ass before the match could be started. Kay.
And Lesnar vs Orton ends in a TKO because Lesnar turned Orton's head into a blood fountain. I can't tell if the blood geyser was legit or not because it was crazy nasty, but it did turn into a kayfabe story moment though, so I can't telt for sure. Overall, very weak end for Summerslam after not having the US Championship match.
A couple particularly good matches though. I feel like Styles vs Cena was at the top, followed by Rollins vs Balor, and then Ambrose vs Ziggler. It might've been a tougher choice between the top 2, but the fans ruined like half of the Rollins vs Balor match by shitting on the belt for so long. Fuck you, crappy audience! The belt isn't even that bad and you almost killed a fantastic match over it.
Also can Brock get kicked out for being on roids or something? I'm honestly getting tired of him by now. He has like three moves and some strikes. He's boring. I don't really care that he's like the most agressive guy because legit fights other people, at this point, he's just dull. The only downside is that we would miss out on Paul Hayman being his advocate, which is usually great, but Brock is boring and him completely annihilating Orton the entire time except for two RKO's is lame. Orton is multi-time champion, but they treated it like a squash match. They'll probably have a rematch at either Backlash or Clash of Champions.
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Post by: doafan on August 22, 2016, 07:27:53 pm
Brock Lesnar (with his wife) vs. Randy Orton: There are no words that can describe what I say, seriously WTF did I saw? Had the idea that I was watching the WWE and not the UFC, as always am disappointed about the moves of Lesnar, the same shitty ones that he uses every damn time also had no clue why this match was the main one, there was no belts on the line neither an storyline behind this feud, just hope that we can see Orton in the next weeks cause the poor dude practically was raped in the ring.
Finn Bálor vs. Seth Rollins: Still can’t believe that Raw didn’t asked for a re match or manage one way or another to perform some kind of invasion against SmackDown to get back the belt back about the match this was pretty cool (not my favorite one) but I insist I didn’t liked the fact that they decided to use Demon King so fast.
Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler: The second best match of the night, was expecting to see a new champ I mean Ziggler deserves a chance for the title and dunno if it’s only me but Dean lately hasn’t archived anything neither doing something crazy.
Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte: Didn’t saw it but I heard that Sasha lost the belt because she has some issues with her back and that she is scheduled for medical evaluation, it’s kinda bad that she already lost it this fast, now I don’t know who the hell will took it from Charlotte’s hands.
John Cena vs. AJ Styles: Thanks to Styles I won a hamburger, for me this was the best match of the event and not because of Cena, he practically did the same moves again and again, dunno if it’s arsenal it’s that limited, usually don’t pay that much attention to his matches or if it’s because of the WWE policies but AJ sold this match with a clean victory, now I hope that this feud can finally end.
The Miz (with Maryse) vs. Apollo Crews: Didn’t saw it but am pretty sure when I say that didn’t missed anything good except for The Miz wife, Yumi Yumi.
The New Day vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson: Big E did came to help his unicorn brothers, being honest the other two didn’t had a chance against The Club the bad part about the result was that there were not more samples to get collected.
Enzo Amore and Big Cass vs. Chris Jericho and Kevin Owens: Missed this one because my daughters wanted to eat pizza and really wasn’t expecting this match to be the first one, know the result cause my wife told me about it but will need to see it tonight.
Rusev (with Lana) vs. Roman Reigns: I demand a rematch, well can’t ask for one since there was no match, damn it was expecting to see a new champ, wonder if they are going to say anything about this one at tonight’s Raw.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 22, 2016, 08:14:40 pm
Shit! Balor did injure himself last night. He had to relinquish the Universal belt on RAW because of it. Super lame. I know when it happened too I think, when he was chucked at the barrier, because he grabbed his arm in a way that didn't seem like the usual kayfabe sort of way handling damage. Incredibly rough way to start his time in RAW.
Series of matches for the belt to be done tonight to have a fatal 4 way next monday for the belt. So far it's Rollins, KO, and up next it could either be Cass or Rusev, and Reigns or Jericho.
Apparently the Dudley Boyz are looking to leave WWE? I thought they were working to an angle were they are splitting up, because they kept attacking each other on accident. I guess their contract is up too. It's possible this is just a story and it's them ending the team and they'll go on solo, but not sure. I wouldn't be surprised since they went from being alright, to kinda just lame heels. I thought they were gonna get another tag team championship go, but I guess not.
Oh man, I called that injury for Balor last night. I thought for sure when the camera was turning away that it looked like he was trying to pop it back into place, but couldn't tell. He worked the rest of the match after screwing up his arm that bad. They confirmed that today and showed the replay.
Oh dang, Bailey is going to RAW. thought she would go Smackdown, maybe get something going with Becky, but seems they want the hugger for RAWWonder if we find out that Joe is coming to Smackdown tomorrow.
One of these days, Strowman might actually have a real match in RAW. This has to be like his 5th squash match lol We get it! He's a tough guy! Now actually have him wrestle! lol
Damn, Samoa Joe got hurt at Takeover it seems, but it doesn't sound like it'll put him out for too long with a dislocated jaw that got popped back (Lot of dislocations this weekend lol). Still expect him to go Smackdown tomorrow though.
So Dudley Boyz aren't retiring? I thought it might be a work, going through the whole thing, just to get stomped by Gallows and Anderson. I can't imagine they'd leave after getting wrecked like that.
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Post by: doafan on August 23, 2016, 01:56:29 pm
Damn need to watch yesterday's Raw and tonight's SmackDown also the Kickoff show, to much to see and no free time to do it anyway am kinda surprised that nobody has talked about the altercation that Jericho had with Lesnar at the backstage of SummerSlam, dunno if Y2J was acting cool or maybe he was really concerned about the condition of Orton but I can say that have to admire him cause one way or another not everybody wants to mess with Brock also is well know that he is the gold mine of Vince and practically he has some kind of inmunity ???
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 23, 2016, 08:08:52 pm
Big night for Smackdown, as they are bringing in their own belts for the women and the tag team. Great looking tag belts for Smackdown I think with the blue leather and silver metal.
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Post by: burningdoom on August 24, 2016, 12:53:57 pm
Damn need to watch yesterday's Raw and tonight's SmackDown also the Kickoff show, to much to see and no free time to do it anyway am kinda surprised that nobody has talked about the altercation that Jericho had with Lesnar at the backstage of SummerSlam, dunno if Y2J was acting cool or maybe he was really concerned about the condition of Orton but I can say that have to admire him cause one way or another not everybody wants to mess with Brock also is well know that he is the gold mine of Vince and practically he has some kind of inmunity ???
It was a work. If it was real, I'm sure Lesnar would've gotten more than the slap on the wrist that is a $500 fine. I mean, think about how much that guy makes. And the fact that both shows focused on what happened the next two nights.
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Post by: doafan on August 24, 2016, 06:52:09 pm
Just wondering if somebody saw yesterday the Talk Smack show after SmackDown, the Miz was pissed off because Daniel call him a coward and the Awesome totally went nuts even Renee was surprised about his reaction, guess that he took the comment so damn serious cause even his voice is different, da fuck with him, dunno what he smoked but I want some of that too :P
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 26, 2016, 03:01:02 am
I feel like "Pipe Bomb" is abit much for this, but I did finally watch it, and I can see why it's doing well. That's one of the better, real feeling, promo's I've seen in a long time. That felt like serious passion and I think Miz working in some real issues into it helped it out. I personally am not the biggest fan of him, though he is a good at what he does. The problem with heels sometimes is that you either like them, or you don't. I find his heelness abit annoying, like Jericho's. They just don't work for me like Rollins, or KO, or Bray Wyatt, but that was a good sell on Miz's part. I hope they can really utilize it and work this aggression into the show in some way. I'd love for them to make the IC belt a bigger deal, because with people like Kalisto and Ryback, they showed no real respect for it. It would be interesting to see if they can't give it a boost with Miz running it, even as a cheating heel.
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Post by: jupiter on August 27, 2016, 01:40:20 am
I only watch NXT currently, with ppv from the main show's sprinkled here and there.
Most recent NXT Takeover matches were decent. Tag team match stood out. The one I was disappointed with though was the main event. It did not step up to the level I had assumed it would. I was pretty hyped for that match. Going to rewatch to confirm though.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 27, 2016, 02:00:59 am
I only watch NXT currently, with ppv from the main show's sprinkled here and there.
Most recent NXT Takeover matches were decent. Tag team match stood out. The one I was disappointed with though was the main event. It did not step up to the level I had assumed it would. I was pretty hyped for that match. Going to rewatch to confirm though.
The Nakamura vs Joe match? Yeah I wouldn't say it was the best ever, but NXT events at least seem to be generally good most of the time. It's sadly the main roster that tends to pump out a lot of poor PPV's.
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Post by: jupiter on August 27, 2016, 04:49:27 am
I only watch NXT currently, with ppv from the main show's sprinkled here and there.
Most recent NXT Takeover matches were decent. Tag team match stood out. The one I was disappointed with though was the main event. It did not step up to the level I had assumed it would. I was pretty hyped for that match. Going to rewatch to confirm though.
The Nakamura vs Joe match? Yeah I wouldn't say it was the best ever, but NXT events at least seem to be generally good most of the time. It's sadly the main roster that tends to pump out a lot of poor PPV's.
Indeed. I was pumped for that match.
I lost interest with the main roster years ago, end of attitude era. I watch every now and again as indicated but it never grabs my interest much.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 29, 2016, 11:06:18 pm
Well I did not expect that at all! HHH intervenes, surprising both Stephanie and Mick by putting the pedigree to Reigns and THEN Rollins, making Owens champion! KO has the belt! Normally I'm iffy on shenanigans in matches, but this was straight up shocking and now we got KO as champion. If this was anyone else, I might be more perturbed, but I could see this turning into interesting story stuff. I mean we already had our legit winner with Balor, so this is okay.
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Post by: doafan on August 30, 2016, 10:29:25 am
Dunno if what happened yesterday was scripted or not but KO was kinda surprised in fact everybody in the arena was surprised as hell, the look of his eyes tells me that he wasn't expecting that result maybe am wrong or not but don't have to say that totally love the results of this match, my wife in the other hand is so fucking pissed off, she was expecting to see if not Reigns at least Set as the champ, can't wait to see what happens at the next Raw show and before I leave to the office have to say that the twitter account of the champ has more activity than usual, pay special attention at Seth's comment ???
(http://i.imgur.com/2GYM4pZ.png)
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Post by: burningdoom on September 01, 2016, 10:53:21 am
K-O Mania has arrived.
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Post by: doafan on September 03, 2016, 01:10:29 pm
These past days was reading and seeing a couple of videos where all of them said that the result from this past Raw was completely unknown for all the staff/wrestlers with the only exceptions of Reigns, Rollins, Vince and Triple H being this last one the one that had the idea of making Owens the new champ, why ?, because Hunter wanted to have a real reaction not only from KO, practically he wanted to have a chain of reactions from everybody I mean the ref, Step, Nick, the commentators so that way the public have a big one and hell we did have it.
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Post by: burningdoom on September 03, 2016, 02:19:43 pm
Dave Metlzer said that it was all pre-planned with everyone involved. They were just doing their job and being good actors.
""Owens was so convincing that there were people who believed they had swerved him on the finish, but this was not like Lesnar vs. Orton at all, and everyone involved knew what was up and were just good actors." Dave Meltzer, WON"
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Post by: doafan on September 03, 2016, 02:28:26 pm
Don't forget The Miz vs Daniel Bryan they did an awesome job to, in fact the champ was the one that totally sold the idea that he was pissed off also am kinda sad to know that Owens already knew about the result of that match but he is a pretty good actor, totally sold me the idea with his expressions, what the fuck he's doing at the WWE, give this fat dude a contract for a movie and in a couple of years he will be winning some Oscars ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 09, 2016, 12:06:42 am
Anyone else watching Lucha Underground? Just started watching it and it's pretty entertaining. I like that it's very "real", nothing kayfabe breaking, well produced, it's very slick with some good wrestling in it. I'm not really a "wrestling" fan, I'm not interested in indie stuff and just seeing matches, I need entertainment, production, worked into it, and this is really good with just the first few episodes.
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Post by: doafan on September 11, 2016, 02:06:26 pm
Dunno what the hell I was doing that didn't had a chance put the list of the matches that will be part of tonight's Backlash so here it is :o
Dean Ambrose vs. AJ Styles: Singles match for the WWE World Championship Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Naomi vs. Natalya vs. Nikki Bella: Six-pack elimination challenge for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship The Usos vs. The Hype Bros: Tag team match to qualify for the tag team tournament final TBD vs. Heath Slater and Rhyno: Tag team tournament final for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt: Singles match The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 11, 2016, 02:29:51 pm
Dunno what the hell I was doing that didn't had a chance put the list of the matches that will be part of tonight's Backlash so here it is :o
Dean Ambrose vs. AJ Styles: Singles match for the WWE World Championship Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Naomi vs. Natalya vs. Nikki Bella: Six-pack elimination challenge for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship The Usos vs. The Hype Bros: Tag team match to qualify for the tag team tournament final TBD vs. Heath Slater and Rhyno: Tag team tournament final for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt: Singles match The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler: Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship
Ambrose vs Styles should be good, Usos vs Hype Bros could be maybe something, mostly because Usos have turned heel now. I want Orton vs Wyatt to be good and there's a good chance it will. Miz vs Ziggler could be something too, but we'll see. The women's match could be alright if it goes well, since multi-women matches usually feel so lackluster.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 11, 2016, 05:00:02 pm
Well shit, Orton might be out of Backlash. Apparently he's not medically cleared or something, which might've been good to get done before pushing the whole pointless Wyatt angle.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 11, 2016, 08:32:20 pm
Came in late and ending up catching a real terrible botch by Naomi and Natalya lol Though I'm glad Becky got the belt. They've treated her like garbage for months now, so hopefully this is a big change for her.
Uso's have definitely gone heel. No colors, don't think they had the intro, no face paint, black and white wrestling gear, different attitude. Seems like a more proper heel turn compared to like The Dudley's when they did and all they did was just get rid of the tables and act a little mean lol
Miz vs Ziggler is actually a good match. The problem I have with The Miz, is that because he's usually playing the chickenshit heel, the coward, it usually makes for a lame heel to get into. Now that they are pushing the fiery "respect" me aspect since the Daniel Bryan interview, it's helped to boost him up, because he still plays that chickenshit heel, but it feels like something more now. I actually care about what is going on, even if the Ziggler feud is kinda weak, especially with him getting another belt run so soon after losing to Ambrose.
Not even mad that The Miz won with shenanigans, because I expected it, and there's enough of story to it all that it feels engaging. I can hope they keep this building to something and we get a good loss to someone else worthwhile.
So that's how they make Orton not being cleared work, they kayfabe Wyatt destroying Orton earlier in the day in the background to make him forfeit. Better than them just canceling things I guess...Oh! Turning it into no DQ match by bringing out the big red machine Kane versus Wyatt, which technically there is previous feud material to work with and no Wyatt family to step in! I'm all for this switch, I haven't seen Kane legit fight in a while. Nice bit of Randy at the end to make it work well enough.
*EDIT* Just realized something, but they started using Hulk Hogan soundbytes and images with their recent network commercials again. I guess after all the insane success he had against Gawker and with enough time passed, they might look at bringing him back, if Hogan even wants to since he's like a gajillionaire now lol
I'm cool with Slater and Rhyno winning the tag belts if American Alpha can't get them lol The free agent shenanigans was entertaining and they made this whole thing work and made me like Slater abit more after the whole Social Outcast thing.
And a pretty solid match of Ambrose vs Styles. Now Styles really is the "Face that runs the place".
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Post by: burningdoom on September 13, 2016, 06:18:58 pm
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Post by: jupiter on September 20, 2016, 09:13:23 am
^ Bwahahaha
Excellent.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 25, 2016, 08:28:29 pm
TJ Perkins, the CWC champion has an amazing intro theme. Retro chiptune style, very Mega Man'ish along with a retro game intro video. One of the better intros I've seen in awhile. Very unique.
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Post by: doafan on September 26, 2016, 01:52:48 pm
I almost miss Clash of Champions and not only because these past days have been in a damn rush almost all time also because Backlash wasn't the show that I was expecting anyway started to watch yesterdays show at the beginning of the match between Sami Sayn and Chris Jericho guess that started at the right time wasn't expecting the result of this one but am ok with this, about the match between Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks vs. Bayley have to say that am not surprised that Rick's daughter retained the belt but still need to watch it again cause started to rain when it was almost in the middle of it and for a couple of minutes the internet went down, it seems that we got a new US Champion I took this match as my bathroom time, no am not kidding I did took a shower and when came back to the room my wife wasn't mad about the result so immediately assumed that Roman is the new champ oh but she did get mad as hell when KO defeated with the little help of his best friend in the entire world Y2J, this morning she was still pissed off about the result, about me what can I say, totally love it.
So today is the day. The future of wrestling changes forever, one way or the other today. TNA is up for sale, and today is the do or die day, a decision has to be made. WWE and Billy Corgan (President of TNA) are two of the bidders. There is also two mystery bidders (one being rumored to be Jeff Jarrett, who is rumored to want to rebrand it as GFW). Obviously, WWE just wants the tape libary.
So if WWE buys it, TNA is done. If Corgan buys it, he will have full reign to run TNA, but in an entirely different direction. Who knows what the mystery buyers will do, but if one is Jarrett, then TNA becomes GFW.
I am eagerly awaiting today's news...
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Post by: burningdoom on September 30, 2016, 01:51:01 pm
With the possible sale and end of TNA Wrestling happening today, I thought it would be fitting to share some of our favorite matches, wrestlers, and memories of TNA Wrestling. What are some of yours?
I LOVED TNA from about 2006-2011. I honestly thought they put on a better show than WWE during those years. This was after The Attitude Era and Ruthless Aggression Eras had ended in WWE and the PG-Era was starting to go full-swing, and I never was a fan of the PG-Era.
During that time, TNA had a HELLUVA tag-team division, women's division, and their oh-so-awesome X-Division. All of those divisions were exciting, fast-paced, and the talent was hungry.
Guys like The Motorcity Machineguns, Beer Money, Big Hernandez, Austin Aries, Christopher Daniels, A.J. Styles, Bobby Roode (so underrated), Jay Lethal, and Eric Young were tearing it up! And then you also had legends like Booker T, Scott Steiner, Sting, Kevn Nash, and Kurt Angle. They REALLY had a great all-around roster during those years.
I'd say my favorite matches were probably the 5-match series between Beer Money and The Motorcity Machineguns. Some of the best tag-team matches I have EVER seen (except for maybe the legendary, early TLC matches in WWE).
My favorite moment was without a doubt when Jay Lethal came out and out-Flaired Ric Flair. That was gut-bustingly funny watching Flair freak out about it, while Jay Lethal continued to be Flair.
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Post by: doafan on September 30, 2016, 08:52:01 pm
So if WWE buys it, TNA is done. If Corgan buys it, he will have full reign to run TNA, but in an entirely different direction. Who knows what the mystery buyers will do, but if one is Jarrett, then TNA becomes GFW.
It is today ?, damn just hope that the WWE don't purchase the company or it will suffer the same destiny as the ECW and the WCW :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 30, 2016, 10:32:10 pm
Never watched TNA, so I have no real feelings towards what happens to it. WWE gobbling up more brands isn't exactly the best, though a bought out TNA could see some talent from there could go WWE's way, even if some of it was already people who quit or were let go from WWE to begin with at some point.
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Post by: doafan on September 30, 2016, 10:59:22 pm
I used to watch TNA and still have a lot of matches in some DVD that's where I knew about the existence of AJ Styles, guess that I started to watch their shows because of Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy it's kinda rare that know that Matt is there too I don't like the show any more :-\
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Post by: burningdoom on October 01, 2016, 01:36:58 pm
So at least Bound For Glory is still on. Good for the TNA fans, that would suck for them to lose the biggest show of the year that has already been advertised. Sales talks are still continuing.
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Post by: doafan on October 02, 2016, 10:07:48 am
Was reading yesterday that old good Vince give some money to the company so that way they can continue with the show is this true ? also saw and dunno if it's true that this bastard only want the rights of the videos from this company because he can have the origins of some of his currently superstars aka AJ Styles, Sting also the material of Kurt Angle, Dudley Boys, Christian and more, what do you know about this ? :-\
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Post by: burningdoom on October 02, 2016, 01:22:07 pm
Was reading yesterday that old good Vince give some money to the company so that way they can continue with the show is this true ? also saw and dunno if it's true that this bastard only want the rights of the videos from this company because he can have the origins of some of his currently superstars aka AJ Styles, Sting also the material of Kurt Angle, Dudley Boys, Christian and more, what do you know about this ? :-\
I seriously doubt it was McMahon that funded Bound For Glory, because the subsequent TV tapings for Impact were also funded. If McMahon only wants their tape library, it would make little sense to keep Impact going, that's just money down the drain.
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Post by: doafan on October 02, 2016, 02:26:50 pm
Saw a video a couple of minutes ago that TNA will be running at least until December but the future of the company for the next year is still unknown about the tape library kinda makes sense to me, if he manages to get them he can sell the origins of some of his stars like something "exclusive" I say it this way cause almost everybody on earth know the origins of these wrestlers it would be cool if ROH can help the TNA dunno why they haven't formed an alliance with PWG, seeing the three companies working together with some crossovers aka Invasion but we outstanding :o
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Post by: doafan on October 12, 2016, 12:46:45 pm
Totally missed No Mercy and being honest I really don't care that much, am not saying that we are getting to many damn events but am unable to watch all of them, I even haven't had a chance to watch this past Raw and Smackdown only managed to watch the last match of both shows, the one between Chris Jericho and Seth Rollins was ok guess that am saying this because haven't seen the storyline behind Y2J list but the one that it took my complete attention was the one between AJ Styles and James Ellsworth where Ambrose was the special referee, can't believe that the gave this jobber the opportunity of beating the champ and that he will have a chance to get the phenomenal belt next week, everybody knows that this is a joke but this will be in the records and someway or another this is a good thing for this rookie, he even have some followers at his Twitter account (https://twitter.com/realellsworth) ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on October 12, 2016, 01:01:09 pm
GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 12, 2016, 03:58:57 pm
It's funny to see how many people want Goldberg vs Lesnar to happen, when we go back to when they did fight over a decade ago, everyone hated that match lol
I haven't been keeping up with the regular show, though I did catch Cena vs Styles vs Ambrose at No Mercy. Was a good match and interesting that the "main event" was the very first show. I also heard that Miz and Ziggler was a good match surprisingly, since they've gone at each other so much, but they apparently been making this thing work between them by having Ziggler put up his career. I'll probably watch Smackdown and Raw next week, very much for the Goldberg return to see what happens.
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Post by: burningdoom on October 12, 2016, 04:02:19 pm
It's funny to see how many people want Goldberg vs Lesnar to happen, when we go back to when they did fight over a decade ago, everyone hated that match lol
That's because they were both ending their wrestling careers, and knew it going into the match. And they both gave us crap work as a result. That was an exception. Most of the time, both Lesnar and Goldberg are pure intensity. And Lesnar is still contracted with WWE, so at least he won't be doing a cop-out match.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 12, 2016, 07:31:07 pm
That is true. Maybe I'm just not excited for this on part because of Lesnar. I was on the Suplex City train for awhile, but he's been booked as such a monster so much, that you can basically expect what will happen too much. I don't think I've really been into him since the Undertaker feud ended. Maybe if they book Goldberg as just as big of a monster, we could get a really big match out of this.
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Post by: doafan on October 25, 2016, 12:21:10 pm
Haven't seen the latest shows of Raw and Smackdown, well yesterday I only saw the main match from the red show between Owens, Rollins and Jericho which by the way was pure lame, don't like what the writers are doing with Kevin but since I can't do anything to change that managed to get a "backup copy" of some amazing PWG matches and the one that saw yesterday between The Young Bucks against Super Dragon and Kevin Steen was pure gold, even created a Dailymotion account just to share it with the rest: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4yzyfb ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 25, 2016, 02:23:32 pm
I've been half watching the shows lately. The Goldberg return last RAW was pretty good and maybe we'll get more of a fight perhaps with them going at each other that won't simply be suplexes. That's getting old for me. Hell in a Cell this week could be interesting perhaps, so we'll see there.
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Post by: victorlazarus on October 27, 2016, 12:28:59 pm
It's funny to see how many people want Goldberg vs Lesnar to happen, when we go back to when they did fight over a decade ago, everyone hated that match lol
That's because they were both ending their wrestling careers, and knew it going into the match. And they both gave us crap work as a result. That was an exception. Most of the time, both Lesnar and Goldberg are pure intensity. And Lesnar is still contracted with WWE, so at least he won't be doing a cop-out match.
Its funny, as when I watched that match, at the time I didn't know why the crowd was so angry.
I feel like they are only bringing Goldberg back to wipe away the blemish on Brock's record. Although Brock is a mega draw, it feels strange for them to so heavily promote a fighter who left for another sport, and use that to push him as a legit fighter, as he was cheating in his lat UFC fight. With no issues for part time performers in WWE, I wouldn't be suprised if he ended up looking like Marvel's Abomination.
MVL.
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Post by: burningdoom on October 27, 2016, 12:49:07 pm
TNA's downfall is making WCW's demise look like freaking Candyland.
Now many of the talent are either suing or threatening to leave TNA for WWE after most of the talent's checks were not issued after the last set of tapings (tapings that Fight Network paid for to bail out TNA).
Add that to the fact that Billy Corgan is still in the middle of litigation with TNA in court, and this is just a media circus event. Billy Corgan is suing because he paid for the tapings before last; and the deal was that if Dixie defaulted on any payments, he would get creative control of TNA. Well, she has defaulted, and he hasn't gotten the control. Hence the lawsuit.
HOW ARE THEY STILL OPERATING?!
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 31, 2016, 05:50:13 am
So apparently there was some good stuff at Hell in a Cell from what I'm reading? Apparently KO vs Rollins had great spots and there was some good stuff for the first women's Hell in a Cell match along with them being the main event which is history first for the company, though hearing who won makes me feel abit "meh". Too much back and forth with the womens belt, though maybe it'll be Bayley's turn soon enough.
Not currently subscribed, but I might do so before the next PPV so I can watch this also.
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Post by: doafan on November 07, 2016, 06:34:43 pm
Not currently subscribed, but I might do so before the next PPV so I can watch this also.
You have to subscribe to the WWE Network or at least sign for your free month cause Survivor series is almost here and my opinion or at least for the matches that have been announced it will be a great show, my hype It's over 9999! and am not kidding just check the list and there are a lot of missing wrestlers:
5–on–5 Survivor Series men's elimination match: Team Raw (Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, Roman Reigns, Braun Strowman, and TBA) vs. Team SmackDown (AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, and Baron Corbin) : Cant't wait to see tonight's show just to know if the fifth man in the red team it will be Seth Rollins or Sami Sayn, really expect to be the last one, wouldn't mind to see KO and Sami teaming one more time. 5–on–5 Survivor Series women's elimination match: Team Raw (Charlotte Flair, Bayley, Nia Jax, TBA, and TBA) vs. Team SmackDown (Nikki Bella, Becky Lynch, Alexa Bliss, Carmella, and Naomi) (with Natalya) 10–on–10 Survivor Series tag team elimination match: Team Raw (The New Day (Big E and/or Kofi Kingston and/or Xavier Woods), TBA, TBA, TBA, and TBA) vs. Team SmackDown (Heath Slater and Rhyno, The Hype Bros (Zack Ryder and Mojo Rawley), American Alpha (Jason Jordan and Chad Gable), The Usos (Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso), and TBA) Singles match: Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman) vs. Goldberg Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship: Dolph Ziggler vs. TBD (From the Raw roster)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 07, 2016, 09:23:43 pm
Just confirmed that Rollins is the last spot on Team Raw. The Team Raw for Tag Teams are Enzo & Big Cass, Anderson & Gallows, Sheamus & Cesaro, and Golden Truth.
Zayn will be there though at the show as he's going after Ziggler for the IC belt.
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Post by: doafan on November 08, 2016, 11:44:02 am
Just wondering if we are just waiting for the announcement of the last SmackDown team or if are going to have another matches, dunno maybe we can have some extras at the KickShow about the incursion of Rollins don't want to admit it but was kinda predictable just want to know how the hell this Team will work at the event and of course hope that we can have the IC belt at Raw, Sami deserves a title at the company, the last one that he had was from NXT :'(
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Post by: burningdoom on November 08, 2016, 01:48:26 pm
To reply to an earlier comment:
People are into Goldberg vs. Lesnar because they are both icons. People that don't watch wrestling at all know who Lesnar and Goldberg are. It's a no-brainer match.
The reason the last match between the two of them went down the way it did is because both guys were retiring from the sport, and it was their last match. We know how entitled Lesnar acts, still, and Goldberg also had a big head about him. So Lesnar didn't want to lay down for Goldberg, and Goldberg was pissed that Lesnar wouldn't play ball. So they both gave a lackluster final performance. At least that's what I read about it, obviously I don't know from a personal account.
This time around, that's not the case. Lesnar is a superstar, and is happy to be there this time around. And Goldberg won't want to look bad for his big comeback match. I think it will go much more smoothly this time around.
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Post by: doafan on November 08, 2016, 06:35:13 pm
A last minute new has been filtered around the web, it says that the team SmackDown as suffered a last minute change, Baron Corbin has been removed from the team because of a knee injury that he suffered when was facing Kalisto, the good thing is that the little guy is not going to take his place, he will be replaced by SmackDown Commissioner Shane McMahon :o
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 08, 2016, 08:20:34 pm
I don't...why would Shane be put in to replace Corbin? There's like a half dozen guys at the very least who should be put in there instead. Why not Crews? Or Miz? What about an older filler like Kane or Cena? I thought Shane was good in his fight against Undertaker, but Shane to me is not a wrestling draw. He's good being in charge of Smackdown, playing the guy in charge, but this makes no sense. It undermines the roster and a match that should represent what would generally be considered the best of either side.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 14, 2016, 04:44:36 pm
Geez, this weekend has so much wrestling. 2 hours NXT Takeover Toronto on Saturday, 6 hours of Survivor Series (2 for kickoff, 4 for show) on Sunday, and then we can also count the 3 hours of RAW on Monday and the 2 hours of Smackdown on Tuesday. No wonder there's talk of cutting down on the number of PPV's happening lol
Gonna watch both of the shows this weekend. I haven't really kept up with a lot of wrestling lately, choosing to skip on the TV shows for abit (Glad I did with all that Ellsworth nonsense they had going on with Smackdown lol), other than watching some of the Goldberg stuff.
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Post by: doafan on November 15, 2016, 02:48:31 pm
Did you saw yesterday Raw ?, can't wait to see tonight's SmackDown anyway about cutting down the PPV's I like the idea, being honest there are so many and I don't even watch the NXT shows, always give priority to the ones of Raw and have missed two of SmackDown cause is not my favorite brand ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on November 15, 2016, 02:52:12 pm
^ Haven't watched it yet. I usually watch my wrestling later in the week, after my sci-fi and superhero shows are watched. In other news...
I just got The WWE Network FREE until the end of January 31st!
And I've already claimed my free month, long ago. So this awesome!
I'm not sure how or why exactly, but I got an email (former subscriber) saying that I qualified for it. Sweet!
I had planned on ordering it anyways for Lesnar vs. Goldberg, but was waiting until the day of, to maximize my subscription time. REALLY glad I waited, now.
Anyone else get this offer?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 15, 2016, 03:54:43 pm
It's apparently given out to a few people who've let their subscription lapse for a few months. I didn't get it myself as my subscription lapsed sometime before Hell in a Cell. I don't watch Smackdown and Raw too much at the moment, I mostly just go to Cagedsideseats.com and get the news of what happens there.
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Post by: doafan on November 15, 2016, 09:47:40 pm
I just got The WWE Network FREE until the end of January 31st!
And I've already claimed my free month, long ago. So this awesome!
Anyone else get this offer?
You lucky bastard no offense of course guess that I will never gonna qualify cause the only subscription that I have performed was the free one ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 16, 2016, 01:03:51 am
Undertaker made an appearance on Smackdown to announce his return to kick some ass and made it clear to the Smackdown team that they need to beat down the guys at RAW. Might even do something at Survivor Series. Definitely another perk to watching Survivor Series this weekend.
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Post by: doafan on November 16, 2016, 03:36:29 pm
Undertaker made an appearance on Smackdown to announce his return to kick some ass and made it clear to the Smackdown team that they need to beat down the guys at RAW. Might even do something at Survivor Series. Definitely another perk to watching Survivor Series this weekend.
Call me crazy but I got the idea/feeling that he's gonna take the place of old good Shane also you didn't mentioned that Sami is not going to battle against Ziggler, he's gonna fight against The Miz cause this mothafucka won the belt yesterday with a little help of the hottest Maryse, damn my wife was seeing me with those killer eyes that she has when a gorgeous or voluptuous lady appears on TV ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 16, 2016, 03:46:30 pm
Damn, I didn't catch that. Ziggler really didn't last long lol I'm cool with that as Miz vs Zayn should be fun. I'm expecting interference, I just hope not. That was practically every win for The Miz during his time and it gets annoying after awhile. It killed Charlottes big streak for me, because Ric was getting involved in every single match.
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Post by: doafan on November 18, 2016, 12:03:32 pm
Of course that will be interference from Maryse but I really don't care cause at the events she always looks outstanding anyway I almost forgot to say that there will be another match between The Brian Kendrick vs. Kalisto for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship where if Kalisto win SmackDown LIVE will get the entire Cruiserweight division, dunno if this one will be part of the Kickshow but indeed will see it too ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 18, 2016, 03:39:50 pm
Both are good, so I'm curious to see who wins. Could make the night interesting if Zayn wins over Miz, taking the IC Belt to Raw and if Kalisto wins, the Cruserweights go to Smackdown, though I feel like either won't happen. Raw is the main shown and has the time available to fit the cruserweights into the show without cutting out anyone else.
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Post by: doafan on November 20, 2016, 01:01:34 pm
Won't gonna be able to watch the show, at least not today cause my wife wants to go out and have a dinner at Taco Palenque so will avoid the Internet for the whole day until I download my copy of this event anyway here at my predictions for tonight show:
Brock Lesnar (with his fat and ugliest wife) vs. Goldberg: The last one has to win, somebody needs to teach Lesnar some manners. 5–on–5 Survivor Series elimination match: Raw will win this one for sure and not only because the super best friends KO & Y2J are there also because the ex Shield members are kinda trying to copy the friendship from Owens and Chris also don't forget that Strowman is there. 5–on–5 Survivor Series elimination match: SmackDown boobs team I mean Nikki Bella and Carmella, this will not going to be the typical bathroom match, maybe it will be but after it is over :-* Brian Kendrick vs. Kalisto: Kendrick for sure, as said before SmackDown doesn't have the time on air for the Cruiserweight division. The Miz vs. Sami Zayn: Samy will definitely gonna bring the Intercontinetal championship to Raw also he needs a fucking belt.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 20, 2016, 02:45:32 pm
I watched NXT Takeover last night and as always, a great show. I don't think I saw a bad match. That Tag Team Championship match though was likely the best match of the night, even though Nakamura vs Joe was great. Kinda hoping with Joe winning, that it means we could see Nakamura moving up soon as I'd love to see someone else fighting for the belt. Maybe we could see Roode pushing for it.
As for tonight, no real predictions for the big team matches, but I'd love for Goldberg to win. As you said, Lesnar needs to be knocked down legit. I'm tired of the Beast rampaging all the time and I feel this is the best they could do. Honestly kinda tired with Suplex City. (What are you even going on about knocking Sable? lol)
I figure Kendrick will win, though I hope it's a good match. If Kalisto doesn't mess up, he can be good.
And I'm guessing Zayn wins to be IC champion. Think it's time to see him get some belt action.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 20, 2016, 07:04:47 pm
There were apparently two kinda nothing matches on the kickoff show, where Kane beat Harper and there was a 3 on 3 Cruserweight match, but apparently nothing special. Good to see Kalisto getting a title match on the main show. It was bad when he was IC champion vs Ryback at Wrestlemania and with the issues that show had, they wrestled the kickoff in a half empty stadium.
Survivor Series is starting with the 5 on 5 Team Womens match.
Unrelated, but Finn Balor has apparently made an appearance in place of Mick Foley for an ICW show in Scotland, where he actually went into the ring. Didn't fight other than hitting someone in the gut with a pipe, but him being in the ring is a good sign I think for his return eventually.
Slightly unrelated, but I might love Naomi's style. One of the cooler looking outfit setups with the glowing intro and all the flair attached to it. The loose fabric boots gives me an Ultimate Warrior vibe and she had like these tassle shoulder wear that made me think Macho Man.
Nia Jax might be the Stroman of the Raw team lol Kayfabe, Smackdown is definitely lacking a powerhouse. I wish we could see like a Chyna type show up. Chyna did men and women related stuff, but I think it would be great to mix up the sizes more like Jax brings. Dana Brooke was apparently a bodybuilder, but never seemed to really have the build and she is TINY, like barely over 5 foot while Chyna was 6 foot. Another 6 footer would tower over even a Nia Jax, though I understand why they wouldn't, since Jax is supposed to be this big powerhouse, when she's only 5'10", though when compared to most of the roster, she is still quite large.
Bayley vs Charlotte is clearly the next big push lol
Please tell me I'm not the only one who isn't on the Ellsworth express? That he's legit signed...I don't know. Has he even really wrestled? I know he got stomped by Stroman and there was a thing where he got wrecked and then given a win over Styles, but does he actually do anything?
Can we put Maryse into a cage suspended over the ring please? I am so fucking tired of interference wins. When they do it like a dozen times in a row, it doesn't make me hate The Miz as a heel, it just makes me hate matches they participate in, because I know it's almost guaranteed to happen.
Kinda lame that Team Smackdown didn't get an intro really and wow...I thought they were gonna bury Smackdown, but they just booted New Day out of the fight right from the start. The biggest guys on Raw next to Enzo and Cass in terms of popularity. That's interesting, though I think this will be kind of a mess as huge team fights like this tend to be lol God damn, that Gable roll into suplex against Cesaro looked amazing lol While it wasn't an amazing match, there were a few good spots here and there. I loved the continued throws outside. I think there were like 3 or 4 in a row lol
I feel like we could see a Smackdown win in the big singles match. Smackdown can't get buried too hard or it just makes their second brand look too weak. Kalisto won't win and Smackdown can't just have that scummy Miz win. That's my prediction now.
Kinda love that every count-out is being chanted as "10" because of Tye Dillinger lol Yikes, the crowd is dead for the Cruiserweight Championship. The quietest I've seen all weekend, though I didn't see the two kickoff matches. A few good spots here though. And a Baron Corbin run-in to disqualify...Didn't he get injured or something which was why Shane was stepping in for the big team match? I don't...I don't know what is going on.
Owens and Jericho hugging in the ring. The Bromance is real, I love their dynamic together lol It hasn't gotten old. Man, I thought the Reigns hate train had died down a little, but it's big in Toronto apparently lol Jesus Christ, Strowman chucked Styles out of the ring so haphazardly, he's incredibly lucky he missed his head all the way down the tumble. It could've been nasty. RKO Out of Nowhere never gets old lol And another amazing jump from Shane. I commend the guy for giving his all, but man...That's gotta be rough lol Okay, I laughed at Ellsworth causing a count out. I still don't like this gimmicky mascot indie dude, but that was some good use for him. Man, I have to wonder if Shane actually was hurt. That was a nasty hit he took from Reigns.
Oh Randy Orton...Your RKO's are a thing of pure joy and beauty. While this big single battle was messy, there were a lot of good spots I thought. More exciting than I was expecting and worth watching.
Don't know where Goldberg vs Lesnar will go, but I hope we get a good match. I don't just want a million suplex's to happen. Two spears on Lesnar right off the bat. I'm so glad they aren't making Lesnar the unstoppable beast. Both men need this, even if Lesnar wins.
WHAT WHAT WHAT. I don't...Holy shit. Spoilers for this, but holy crap that was an instant. I guess they want to prolong this rivalry, but man. That was just devastating. While I would've rather had a proper fight, this is great story telling, this puts down Lesnar like it needed to oh so very much. He's no longer the conqueror. Interesting stuff.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 21, 2016, 01:46:26 am
In aftermath news, It does seem like Shane legit might've taken too big of a hit against Reigns. He looked fairly out of and it was confirmed that Orton even consoled Shane's kids at ringside to reassure that he will be okay, breaking character. He might've just taken a big header since he did make his way up the ramp with help and wasn't stretchered, but hope he's alright. He can't keep doing these insane moves. Probably his last go of it I'd say, but he did much more than I ever thought.
Also it looks like a guarantee that the Royal Rumble will see the Goldberg vs Lesnar rematch in January. The squash made sense to do, even if it was disappointing.
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Post by: burningdoom on November 21, 2016, 12:45:15 pm
Everyone seems to be praising the Goldberg vs. Lesnar match. I don't get it. 10 years ago, everyone was bitching about their match because it was so short. So what's different this time around?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 21, 2016, 03:05:32 pm
Everyone seems to be praising the Goldberg vs. Lesnar match. I don't get it. 10 years ago, everyone was bitching about their match because it was so short. So what's different this time around?
I think it's because of what comes afterwards, though I wouldn't "praise" the match, I'd just understand it's story potential. The first time it was short and everyone hated it because they knew they were leaving afterwards. This one is buildup to another big match and it was great at putting down Lesnar, of which this was the first time since Undertaker low blowed him I believe. It knocked down the Beast, elevated Goldberg, and now the next one should hopefully be a proper match for both.
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Post by: doafan on November 21, 2016, 03:21:27 pm
Everyone seems to be praising the Goldberg vs. Lesnar match. I don't get it. 10 years ago, everyone was bitching about their match because it was so short. So what's different this time around?
Tell me that you didn't enjoyed the last match even if it was shorter than the last one, honestly I was more hyped for the less than 3 minutes that this match took (03:20:45 - 03:22:11) that for the entire show about this last one will leave my comments tomorrow cause am at work in a non labor day but who cares if they are going to pay me the triple, am about to leave the damn work, came here just for nothing cause there were no problems and also was able to watch the event here without distractions ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 21, 2016, 03:40:15 pm
Nah, the team matches before it were better. I hate squash matches lol I appreciate the story telling and buildup for Lesnar vs Goldberg, but I was hoping for a match.
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Post by: darkragnorok on November 24, 2016, 12:50:33 pm
Nah, the team matches before it were better. I hate squash matches lol I appreciate the story telling and buildup for Lesnar vs Goldberg, but I was hoping for a match.
To be fair, Goldberg hasnt been in the ring in 12 years and between the hype up to the match to the match itself, he didnt really have much time to prepare to have an actual match plus tweaking your shoulder days before doesnt help. Also the squash in a way pays tribute to why Goldberg got so over in WCW and that was squashing fools left and right.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 24, 2016, 04:24:53 pm
Not saying it doesn't make sense, it's just all this buildup and hype for a squash match and I hate squash matches lol I respect it from a story point of view, but it's just unsatisfying for the finale of the show. Luckily the singles teams before was good enough to make up for it and it seems like Shane managed to survive it well enough as he showed up on Smackdown no problem.
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Post by: doafan on November 25, 2016, 02:04:16 pm
Well since no one have mentioned it seems that he will be looking for the belt because at last Raw show Goldberg mentioned that Step asked him: Do you have one more title run after you also he will be the first man at the Royal Rumble event so maybe KO will have a new opponent :o
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 26, 2016, 05:49:59 pm
TLC is coming up on the 4th, which hopefully will be good. It's been turned into a Smackdown event though and it does seem abit of a basic PPV. Ambrose vs Styles for the belt with the full TLC spread, Lynch vs Bliss, Bella vs Carmella no DQ, Miz vs Ziggler in a Ladder match that I assume is for the belt, and then an interesting mixture of American Alpha vs Orton and Wyatt. I haven't watched the tv show lately, but apparently they are all buddy buddy now I guess. This is for a shot at going after Rhyno and Slater for the belts. Also there's Kalisto vs Corbin in a chairs match. Styles vs Ambrose could be something good along with miz vs Ziggler. I'm also very interested to see if American Alpha is gonna get put over by some big guys like Orton and Wyatt.
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Post by: doafan on November 29, 2016, 02:11:26 pm
Yesterday Raw show was pretty intense and not only because KO and Y2J apparently broken up their friendship, was laughing my ass of when this happened, always had the idea that in this "relationship" Jericho was the girl that cry for everything and Owens the guy that doesn't care about what her girlfriend wants or need also Kevin had a match (not for the belt) against the Boo guy, a match that he lost but the rare here is that this match was not the last one of the night, the last one was between The Boss vs Charlotte for the belt with the stipulation Falls Count Anywhere where not only Sasha has become for the third time the Women Champion surprisingly the match was so damn good and the best part is that Ric Flair himself recognized Banks victory when he came into the ring :o
This highlights are even much better than the ones that the WWE has at their channel.
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Post by: burningdoom on November 29, 2016, 02:43:02 pm
My DVR chose not to record Raw last week for whatever reason.
I'm watching the beginning of this week's Raw, and apparently, the week my DVR screws me, is the week that Rollins and Owens has the match of the year for the main-event!
...and now I'm a Hulu subscriber.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 10, 2016, 10:58:56 pm
Haven't watched wrestling in abit, probably gonna maybe not watch too much in the way of RAW or Smackdown for awhile since it's sort of a hassle to get setup for it every Monday and Tuesday on the TV, though I will probably watch Roadblock, but I was just reminded of something I must watch, which is that WrestleKingdom is coming back at the beginning of the year! It's NJPW's Wrestlemania and for the past two years, it's been great to watch. I know little about most of the wrestlers other than like The Young Bucks and Kenny omega, but there's always good wrestling. I just need to find out how to watch it lol
Also, Cody Rhodes, who left WWE, has joined the Bullet Club over there, so he might debut at the show. His promo was great, spinning his father's legacy of the American Dream to a heels version of "The American Nightmare". That's good stuff.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 14, 2016, 02:13:30 pm
Arn Anderson and Sid Viscious get into a bloody, brutal scissors fight (real life):
Oh man, that's just brutal! Did you guys know about this? I originally learned about in an interview I saw with 2 Cold Scorpio, who witnessed the fight. Then I Googled it and came across this graphic, and detailed account of it.
Both these guys literally tried to kill each other! I don't see how they didn't get arrested.
Sounds like Sid went over to continue a heated argument (or turn it into more of a fight), and Arn is the one that stabbed Sid first after Sid tried to back off when he saw the scissors in Arn's hand.
Then after he got stabbed, he understandably saw red and it just turned into a bloody scene from a horror movie on both sides!
What's crazy is that even though Arn is the one that stabbed Sid first, Sid is the one that was booted from WCW while Anderson only got a suspension! That Four Horsemen pull gets you a lot.
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Post by: doafan on December 14, 2016, 02:37:51 pm
Cody Rhodes is now part of the Bullet Club ?, damn that's a good fucking new, the latest NJPW event was the Wrestle Kingdom 10 and only because of the match between Styles vs. Nakamura anyway now that you have mentioned the Young Bucks I wonder if the Briscoe Brothers are still part of this company ?, these dudes are serious business anyway Roadblock is almost here so at this moment this is the list of the official matches that will place this next Sunday:
Big Cass vs. Rusev - Singles match: This match will take place at the kickshow so am not going to see it, really don't like the matches that are before the show, the only bad thing of not seeing this one is that am totally gonna miss Lana's outfit. Kevin Owens vs. Roman Reigns - Singles match for the WWE Universal Championship: This is the match that am not going to miss no matter what happen, am expecting to see Y2J at some moment in the match helping KO but after what happened at the last Raw show I still have my doubts but am pretty sure that if Cena v2.0 wins I'll riot am fucking serious about this. Seth Rollins vs. Chris Jericho - Singles match: Had the idea or maybe I read at someplace but right now don't remember where that Jericho will no be at the WWE this next year because he has some schedules with his band so this is another one that am not going to miss, my wife hate him and Kevin so much even when she knows that I'm a big fan of Owens. Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte Flair - 30–minute Iron Man match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship: The match might be good but am tired of these two, the womens division of the red brand practically belong to these two ladies which by the way make me sick. Rich Swann vs. T.J. Perkins vs. The Brian Kendrick - Triple threat match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship: This will be my bathroom/dinner match, I don't like the Cruiserweight Division neither none of the wrestlers that are there, I might know Kendrick from years ago when he was teaming with Paul but London was my favorite from this team, didn't knew that he fought Steen at PWG. Sami Zayn vs. Braun Strowman - Singles match with a 10-minute time limit: This is the match that really deserves to be at the Kickshow, if Sami wins this one it will be pure shit, don't get the wrong idea because I do love his performance but don't believe that the WWE is going to give him the push like Cena or The Rock to beat the big guy, when Foley announced that he will be part of Smackdown seriously was expecting to be true.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 14, 2016, 03:39:07 pm
That arena will explode if Roman gets the Universal belt while also having the US belt lol I'm fine with him on the mid tier for now, it's a good place for him, but they know they can't get him over again. He's still getting booed as champion. It'll probably be a fun match, but I hope to see something different from Roman.
This is apparently the last Banks and Charlotte will feud, which is great, because it got old a long time ago.
I'll watch the Cruserweight match, but I'm not excited for it. TJ Perkins is cool, I think he's a good guy to watch and great intro.
I'm curious to see what will happen with Zayn and Strowman. I think it's time that Strowman got knocked down, because I don't know if he has yet. I know how they are pushing him, but him getting taken down by Zayn would be a great push for Zayn and could fire up the big guy which is good story. Then again, it'll probably just be close and Zayn will get destroyed, sadly lol I do wish he would get the push he deserves, maybe a shot at the US belt or something.
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Post by: doafan on December 14, 2016, 09:20:53 pm
Then again, it'll probably just be close and Zayn will get destroyed, sadly lol I do wish he would get the push he deserves, maybe a shot at the US belt or something.
An opportunity for the US belt is the perfect choice I really was expecting to see him with the IC belt but later remember that this belt belong to KO first and if the writers are doing their jobs they definitely would not gonna give the same belt to Sami, he doesn't deserve to be the shadow of Owens cause he really needs to shine by himself.
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Post by: doafan on December 18, 2016, 01:35:11 pm
We got another match for today's event and it will be for the Raw Tag Team Champions where The New Day will have to defend their title against Cesaro & Sheamus, call me nuts but am pretty sure that tonight we will gonna have a new Tag Team champions, after all they became the longest reigning tag team champions in WWE history these past days ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/It1MJVT.jpg)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 18, 2016, 02:03:33 pm
I saw it talked about, but expect New Day to lose. It's kind of WWE's modus operandi after records are set from what I read lol This is good though as New Day really do need to lose it. I love the guys, but they've gotten abit stale and I think it's time for them to try something different to refresh themselves. Need a fire put back into them. It's weird how they went from a team I hate, to a team I love.
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Post by: doafan on December 18, 2016, 02:13:31 pm
I saw it talked about, but expect New Day to lose. It's kind of WWE's modus operandi after records are set from what I read lol This is good though as New Day really do need to lose it. I love the guys, but they've gotten abit stale and I think it's time for them to try something different to refresh themselves. Need a fire put back into them. It's weird how they went from a team I hate, to a team I love.
What I wonder is if they lose the belts are they still be working as a team ?, to be honest I don't see this guys working apart just like The Shield.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 18, 2016, 02:20:46 pm
I saw it talked about, but expect New Day to lose. It's kind of WWE's modus operandi after records are set from what I read lol This is good though as New Day really do need to lose it. I love the guys, but they've gotten abit stale and I think it's time for them to try something different to refresh themselves. Need a fire put back into them. It's weird how they went from a team I hate, to a team I love.
What I wonder is if they lose the belts are they still be working as a team ?, to be honest I don't see this guys working apart just like The Shield.
Well they were working apart before, I could see them doing more one on one stuff now without the belts holding them back, though I don't see them splitting either. New Day is still a prominent team tons of people love. Without the belts, they can work on new material and ideas abit more freely I think.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 18, 2016, 08:26:33 pm
Yup that is it. New Day are done as champions. Good fight though. Lots of the usual New Day shenanigans that always kept them from being real "faces", but these guys are still great. I don't expect Sheamus and Cesaro to be champions too long since they hate each other lol Could be fun for abit since you don't see teams like this all the time.
Zayn vs Strowman worked well enough. It was never going to be much of a wrestling match with the size difference, but they made it work and I guess it had good story potential, but I don't really know where this goes from here. Sure, Zayn is proven to be a badass with his pride intact, but he can't keep feuding with Strowman and it's not gonna really go anywhere.
Jericho vs Rollins was a pretty solid fight and about how you'd expect it to go.
Cruserweight championship was kinda boring actually. Lots of holds. The most exciting thing was at the end lol Neville comes out and just stomps the top Cruserweight guys. He's gone full heel. Even the crowd was into it as they were just not into the match too much I think.
Sasha vs Charlotte was one long ass match, but overall it was pretty good and gets rough at the end as Sasha nose I think got busted up and she's a bloody mess. You don't see that often in womens matches. One hell of a way to end this feud, though I wish Sasha had won. If anything, I'm almost fine with a Charlotte win here, because this one is legit. All the months of Charlottes bullshit with people intervening, all of the bullshit heel shenanigans that shouldn't go for as long as they do, tonight was a legit long ass match and was a definitive win for her.
The boos were lighter on Reigns for once. They were still there, but maybe people are starting to soften on him just a little lol Not quite the John Cena split though where you have definite cheers and definite boos lol Match was good though and went how I expected, though with a slight twist at the end that was pretty good. Feel like maybe they'll start leaning towards a Shield team with Roman and Seth. They've done the reunion a few times now, they don't seem to hate each other anymore, and it could certainly work to mix things up for abit with them in the tag team circuit.
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Post by: doafan on December 19, 2016, 07:15:29 pm
Big Cass vs. Rusev: Managed to watch this match and really can't believe how the hell this one ended. The New Day vs. Cesaro & Sheamus: Finally but even when I don't have anything against the two new champions and seeing how these two are always fighting wouldn't mind if they lose the belts in a near future against Gallows and Anderson, these mothafuckas deserve to wear the belts. Sami Zayn vs. Braun Strowman: Have to say that I changed my bathroom match for this one, did loved that Sami was able to "resist" the 10 minutes but the presence of Foley with the towel wasn't necessary, really hope that this will be the last match between these two or if maybe Strowman wanted to have a team partner I wouldn't mind if that would be Zayn. Rich Swann vs. T.J. Perkins vs. The Brian Kendrick: Didn't saw it but will have to give it a chance at least just to know what the hell did the Elf made. Seth Rollins vs. Chris Jericho: Seriously needs to watch tonight's Raw to wee what comes next. Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte Flair: Holly shit it seems that all the blood was real and not like the one from Reigns, even when I saw the match and a picture through twitter (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Ah4ZkXEAArlD5.jpg) still can't believe that it was real. Kevin Owens vs. Roman Reigns: To be honest still have my doubts about if Jericho really helped KO with that Codebreaker, need to watch tonight's RAW.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 19, 2016, 07:25:32 pm
Kevin Owens vs. Roman Reigns: To be honest still have my doubts about if Jericho really helped KO with that Codebreaker, need to watch tonight's RAW.
To me, I think it's very clear that the friendship is over for good and that what is on Jericho's mind is trying to get a shot at the belt. It's been made out to be that he might only have so much longer at the company as a wrestler, so maybe one final big push for him would be to get the belt, maybe hold it for a few months before someone like Balor can get it back.
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Post by: doafan on December 19, 2016, 07:31:30 pm
To me, I think it's very clear that the friendship is over for good and that what is on Jericho's mind is trying to get a shot at the belt. It's been made out to be that he might only have so much longer at the company as a wrestler, so maybe one final big push for him would be to get the belt, maybe hold it for a few months before someone like Balor can get it back.
If they don't give the belt to Roman or Goldberg am happy with that but a big push for Y2J would be nice, gotta run from the office to my home cause don't want to miss the show ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 19, 2016, 09:23:46 pm
I'm pretty sure they won't go for Roman, just cause they know better till they can get him over, so I think they'll keep him US champ for abit longer and maybe we could do some tag team for abit. I don't expect Goldberg as he's like Brock right now. He does a few things here and there, but he's just a spectacle. Like Undertaker isn't going to get a belt shot lol
*EDIT* Turns out I might be wrong on Roman. Because of Jericho intervention, Jericho will be in a cage for a title match between Reigns and Owens. Their fight was good, so I'm sure this'll be fine as they try to figure out a way to deal with it so he doesn't win.
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Post by: doafan on December 20, 2016, 06:34:07 pm
*EDIT* Turns out I might be wrong on Roman. Because of Jericho intervention, Jericho will be in a cage for a title match between Reigns and Owens. Their fight was good, so I'm sure this'll be fine as they try to figure out a way to deal with it so he doesn't win.
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Post by: doafan on December 26, 2016, 09:11:36 pm
Yesterday was bored and was checking the WWE page when I noticed that at the Superstars section (http://www.wwe.com/superstars) AJ Styles was not holding his belt just like everybody else, want to believe that this is only a mistake :
(http://i.imgur.com/wO8U7oY.jpg)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 26, 2016, 11:29:14 pm
It's a very odd mistake to make as I was pretty sure he had his belt before when I browsed the last awhile back. I don't think it's a screw up in that he'll be losing tomorrow and they changed it early, because I can't see them giving it to either Corbin or Ziggler in a throwaway match like this that I don't think had too much build up. I'm going to put up to a simple picture error for now.
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Post by: doafan on December 27, 2016, 08:47:15 pm
Mistake or not what it's for sure is that we got a new Smackdown Live Tag Team Champions thanks to Orton ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/LjEZrNo.jpg)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 27, 2016, 11:42:11 pm
Damn, I knew American Alpha were gonna get the belts eventually, but I thought Orton and Wyatts were gonna have it longer lol
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Post by: doafan on December 28, 2016, 12:16:28 pm
Did you had a chance to watch the match ?, I haven't seen it because I was at the office but my wife did saw it and she says that Orton intentionally punched Harper :-\
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 28, 2016, 03:34:28 pm
Did you had a chance to watch the match ?, I haven't seen it because I was at the office but my wife did saw it and she says that Orton intentionally punched Harper :-\
Ah, no, I haven't been watching the TV shows at all. Watched the shortened match on WWE youtube and yeah, Orton smacked Harper in the face. It was hard to tell if it was intentional or a botch in that Gable was supposed to make Orton accidentally hit him, because he plays it off as that he was hit and then hit Harper, but not sure. Could just be something that Orton did on purpose.
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Post by: doafan on January 03, 2017, 05:26:30 pm
Watched the shortened match on WWE youtube and yeah, Orton smacked Harper in the face. It was hard to tell if it was intentional or a botch in that Gable was supposed to make Orton accidentally hit him, because he plays it off as that he was hit and then hit Harper, but not sure. Could just be something that Orton did on purpose.
Want to believe that he punched Harper on purpose just hope that we can have more of this at tonight's SmackDown about yesterday's Raw almost missed the show, started to watch it when Titus wanted to be part of The New Day so was able to watch the match between Y2J vs. Boooman Reigns, Bayley vs. Nia Jax and of course the mess that it happened at The KO Show, Jericho announced that he will be part of the 30 man at the Royal Rumble, Goldberg was the first guest at this show and he did a mess, Roman, Paul Heyman and Strowman were there too but you need to watch if for yourself ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on January 04, 2017, 01:38:54 pm
GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG!
This is one happy WCW fan, right now.
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Post by: doafan on January 04, 2017, 05:27:46 pm
A little late but we have a new Intercontinental Champion :o
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 04, 2017, 06:19:08 pm
Gonna get a subscription to NJPW and watch Wrestle Kingdom this weekend. I'm pretty stoked for it. I have more excitement for this show, with a lot of people I don't really follow or know much of (Outside of a few I know of like Kenny Omega, Young Bucks, Cody Rhodes is debuting in the Bullet Club), than I do Wrestlemania with all the wrestlers I do know and follow lol
*EDIT* Watched the pre-show Rumble and the starting special match which is two real representations from the anime Tiger Mask W, with Tiger Mask W vs Tiger The Dark. You don't get this in WWE and treated with respect. Guest appearances from fictional characters were so cheesy and dumb. It's what I like best about seeing wrestling in Japan, is the greater respect for the theatrics along with good wrestling. American audiences are too quick to shit on stuff, get loud, dumb, chants going. While the Japanese can be a bit too reserved, I do love that they compliment moves when they hit lol
Production is vastly different too. Wrestlemania is a visual spectacle that is almost bigger than the wrestlers themselves. Wrestle Kingdom is practically quiet and plain in comparison, with media surrounding the wring and the audience barely being seen from so far away from the ring. I dig it though, it's such a different and unique vibe and I'm someone that doesn't particularly like wrestling outside of WWE, because I require good production.
Oh geez, the Young Bucks lol They have three belts, the IGPW, PWG, ROH, and they made their own "Super Kick Champion" belts, real legit ones too, and came out covered in belts lol I guess they are pushing for some Hardy Brother action perhaps, so maybe they'll be making a TNA appearance. Genuinely impressive wrestlers, you can see why so much praise is heaped up on them.
Will Osprey who did a short stint in a multi-team, 3 on 3, match was insane. Crazy flips like you'd see from a Kalisto or Neville, but so damn fast.
Cody Rhodes is looking great. I never got to see him before Stardust, but he's real good here. You can see some of that similar heelness, but with less of the crazy supervillain shtick. Definitely want to see more of him like this.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 07, 2017, 04:28:14 am
Finally finished Wrestle Kingdom 11 and god damn was it good lol Okada vs Omega was insane. 45 minute match and they both went at it with some crazy intense spots. This is what I watch Wrestle Kingdom for and why I should probably watch NJPW more as WWE wishes it could have matches this intense most of the time lol Omega was nuts as he sells the crap out of everything.
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Post by: doafan on January 10, 2017, 03:30:27 pm
It seems that Jericho is doing a good job cause at his 46 years he has captured the United States belt in a handicap match between KO & Y2J vs Roman Reigns ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/xYb6q5S.jpg)
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Post by: doafan on January 26, 2017, 08:36:43 pm
Have been kinda busy these past days that haven't seen the latest shows from this past two weeks and almost forgot that this Sunday is the event damn I even had to search for this post the list of the official matches and the participants of the Royal Rumble match, for RAW we have at this moment Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Big E, Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, Chris Jericho, Braun Strowman, Cesaro, Sheamus, Big Show, Sami Zayn, Big Cass and Rusev, for SmackDown they will be Baron Corbin, Dean Ambrose, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Bray Wyatt, Randy Orton, Luke Harper and Mojo Rawley, The Undertaker has been confirmed but is brand has not be assigned, as far as I remember he always has been part of the blue team and hope that this remains the same, there are still eight unknown wrestlers to be announced, hope to see if not Nakamura, Samoa Joe, Shelton Benjamin, Kenny Omega or Kurt Angle there, can't expect all of them but I'll be very happy if at least one of the five appears at the show for the rest of the matches we are going to have:
* Cesaro and Sheamus vs. Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson for the Tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship *Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax in a Singles match * Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, and Naomi vs. Alexa Bliss, Mickie James, and Natalya in a Six-woman tag team match *Kevin Owens vs. Roman Reigns in a No Disqualification match for the WWE Universal Championship where Chris Jericho will be suspended in a shark cage above the ring * AJ Styles vs. John Cena in a Singles match for the WWE Championship * Charlotte Flair vs. Bayley in a Singles match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship * Rich Swann vs. Neville in a Singles match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 26, 2017, 09:03:45 pm
Could be a good event so I'll be watching. I haven't watched the live shows in a while, mostly just read my wrestling site for updates and I haven't watched a WWE event since the last one in December. Really curious who the surprise will be as I'm expecting at least one or two big ones and I'm not counting NXT guys. I kinda assume we'll at least get one or two there, but the rumors of Omega and Angle are pretty cool. This is the one time where I know for sure that this rumble will be better than the rumble at Wrestle Kingdom. That one was pretty bad lol Still kinda entertaining, but not very good.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 26, 2017, 09:57:07 pm
I'm definitely watching! Luckily, my WWE Network subscription expires the next day, so I have just enough time to watch.
This year's Rumble Match is STACKED! Undertaker, Goldberg, Lesnar, Jericho, Ambrose, Orton, Wyatt. Just look at that list of main-eventers, all in one match! As huge WCW fanatic, I'm very excited to see Goldberg in the Rumble!
I hope to see Owens and Styles both retain their championships. Same goes for Charolette. It would be awesome to see Jericho win the Rumble, and go up against Owens at WrestleMania. But I've heard rumors that he's getting ready to tour with Fozzy again, so I don't see that in the cards.
I'm hoping at the kickoff show, we see HBK call out Samoa Joe. WrestleTalk News was reporting that Michaels was talking about wanting a match with him. But that is something that I'm not giving my hopes up for, either.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 28, 2017, 09:30:42 pm
Some good matches at NXT Takeover. Figured since I'm gonna watch the Rumble tomorrow, I'll get my subscription up today to watch and Takeover. Good so far and it's interesting to see some new faces since I haven't been watching the regular shows. Like Sanity I had seen the teases, but never the actual group, which seems to include a woman in the team as I'm cool with a new proper team like this.
Also are the two women who aren't Nikki Cross and Asuka, lesbians? Like is that their gimmick? Holding hands like they did is a little weird lol No matter, at least we get some Asuka! A favorite of mine. It's an odd match where there's the two teammates holding hands, and then two crazy ladies on either side, but it's a fatal 4 way. Seems more like 2 on 1 on 1. I like Cross, she gives me like this Becky Lynch feel, but with a whole bunch of crazy going on. The womens match was fairly short, but it had a couple good spots. I'm interested in seeing Cross versus Asuka one on one.
Side note, it's great seeing Ghost getting a featured song on Takeover. Too often I don't care about the music they got going, but they had them and they had Airbourne a while back for another event.
Bobby Roode reminds me of like a more old school wrestler feel with his gimmick. The big shiny robe, coming out with a bunch of women, the big song lol Very Flair and such. And then Nakamura comes out on a moving flashing platform to his awesome song lol I kinda was hoping for like a whole lot more violinists this time. Like ever big Takeover event he just has more, so that here it's like over a dozen or more lol Need him to get to Wrestlemania and have a big entrance like that maybe.
And Nakamura always continuing to be a favorite. Great match.
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Post by: doafan on January 29, 2017, 12:28:04 pm
Am ready for tonight's event where I do expect to see Owens retaining his title, don't believe that the WWE writers are that stupid to give Roman the belt would love to see a clean match where Kevin can win without the help of nobody after all Jericho will be a the shark cage but got the feeling that this will not happen, maybe Y2J will find a way to escape and help his best friend or maybe Finn will gonna interrupt the match giving KO the won by disqualification, it's time for that kiddo to came back and reclaim what he never lost also expect to AJ to retain, would be a shame if Super Cena breaks Flair's world title record >:(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 29, 2017, 03:17:19 pm
I'm really hoping Reigns doesn't win either, but I'm open for all the other possibilities at the moment for the show. Kinda hoping to be surprised.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 29, 2017, 05:12:39 pm
Uggh, I hate when they do this. The Tag Team Championship is being put on the Kickoff Show. That's real shitty to do with a legitimate belt match. I know the main show is packed full with the Rumble and other championship matches, but any championship match should be on the main show, not the kickoff.
So I guess the whole Tag Team thing with Cesaro has been good for Sheamus. Feels like people are there with him now, even if he's still a heel.
I'm glad Nia Jax is here as simply a different body type, since the womens division is almost all entirely one shape it feels like, but man she is not very good on the mic. I wish we could see some more different women show up, thicker types, bodybuilder types, or just someone particularly tall. I guess they had one awhile back in the running for NXT who was practically 7 foot tall, but got let go named Aloisia or was replaced or something.
Shawn Michaels still has it lol
Charlotte vs Bailey was a solid match. Abit quick I think, but they had some good spots.
Dammit, every time I see this commercial for their WWE Champions mobile game, I keep thinking they are gonna make a new WWE All-Stars wrestling game, which was awesome lol
Roman Reigns boo level...60/40 perhaps. It's not full blown, but he still can't get over two heels that everyone love lol Oh man, Owens pulled out a Stone Cold Stunner on Reigns lol That match didn't go how I expected, but I'm glad they are pushing Strowman as they are. I think he could easily be their next big guy for the long haul.
I'm all over Neville going heel. Its a lot more interesting than the kinda super hero feel he tried before as he never had a particularly good hook. He's an amazing high flyer, but character wise, he was just kinda of standard babyface. Neville might have one of the better holds I've seen lately. So often holds barely look like they do the damage that they seem, but this looks rough and completely ties up the arms.
Missed the start of Cena vs Styles, but good so far. I'm kinda calling a Cena win, but I'm not bothered by either winning. Big impact match, I'm cool with Cena taking the win as he's tied with Flair now.
Oh yeah, Strowman is being pushed as a god dang beast. Man, Ellsworth is here lol Okay, I'm good with that quick use of him.
Oh thank god, Roman didn't win lol Orton winning is "meh", but it was an entertaining match.
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Post by: doafan on January 30, 2017, 01:47:31 pm
Roman Reigns boo level...60/40 perhaps. It's not full blown, but he still can't get over two heels that everyone love lol Oh man, Owens pulled out a Stone Cold Stunner on Reigns lol That match didn't go how I expected, but I'm glad they are pushing Strowman as they are. I think he could easily be their next big guy for the long haul.
Kinda busy at work right now so am here just to say that Austin wasn't impressed with Kevin Owens’ Stone Cold Stunner ...
Not one single surprise entrant in the Rumble, not one. That's disappointing.
Yeah I was hoping for at least one. Not even like a big NXT appearance, just Tye Dillinger, who is a fan favorite right now, but no Joe? I feel this confirms he has awhile longer in NXT. After Roode and Nakamura finish up their beef, I think it'll be Roode and Joe for awhile.
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Post by: doafan on January 31, 2017, 12:50:34 pm
Haven't seen the full Royal Rumble event, have been kinda busy these past days/weeks and totally missed the live show because I was playing Mario Galaxy 2 with my daughter but I did managed to watch later three match's the same night being the first one the match between Owens vs. Reigns where have to say that if am not complete happy am proud of the development of KO in the ring, don't remember that the match was supposed to be a no disqualification match anyway that Super Bacon Punch was hilarious but not as impressive as that Frog splash and I don't have to say that totally love that Stunner, people went nuts when they saw that move so as I, Cena vs. AJ Styles was phenomenal didn't expected the result neither that super Cena looked like a Hulk but Styles performance was awesome, Cena's moves even when he used a "new" ones where at my personal opinion lame as always, can't wait to see the highlights of today's SmackDown about the Royal Rumble expected to See Strowman being one of the latest five wrestlers that remain at the ring but I guess it was ok the way they took it out what wasn't ok was Reigns throwing out the Taker damn I even had the fear that Boman Reigns could won it but thanks god I was wrong, have to say also that was totally disappointed in not seeing not a single special wrestler, guess that Shelton Benjamin wasn't lying when he said that he won't gonna be part of the 30 men inside that ring.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 31, 2017, 04:54:12 pm
So apparently Samoa Joe was brought in on RAW to ambush Seth Rollins! Looks like Joe is coming to RAW finally.
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Post by: doafan on January 31, 2017, 06:00:50 pm
Damn it I just saw that at my lunch time I just wonder why the hell did he appeared at Raw and not at the Royal Rumble ? >:(
I understand it, its so they can give him a story right away. He's basically HHH's attack dog right now and so this will get him feuding with Rollins right away, with Rollins building up for something with HHH still.
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Post by: burningdoom on February 01, 2017, 01:37:13 pm
Goldberg vs. Lesnar at WrestleMania this year...
Again? Seriously?!
That was their last match in their last run in WWE. It was the first match when Goldberg returned to the WWE. And we JUST saw it in the Royal Rumble again.
Do we really have to see this match again at WrestleMania?
There's just so many other match-ups we could see that haven't been done with Goldberg, yet. Why not Goldberg vs. Undertaker? Goldberg vs. Braun Strowman? Goldberg vs. Orton? Or Goldberg vs. HHH?
Give us something new to see, WWE, since we know this Goldberg thing is going to be temporary.
On a side note: It's about damn time Samoa Joe made it to the main roster! He deserved a looong time ago.
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Post by: doafan on February 10, 2017, 02:41:59 pm
Didn't knew that this Sunday we will have the Elimination Chamber, damn it's only me or do we have to many events, being honest haven't seen Raw or SmackDown just the highlights from the Youtube channels that I follow anyway here is the list of the matches that officially have been announced, am not quite sure if am going to see it live but at least gonna watch two of them later the same night also am disappointed that the IC bell will not gonna be put on the line.
* John Cena vs. AJ Styles vs. Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz vs. Baron Corbin vs. Bray Wyatt - Elimination Chamber match for the WWE Championship * American Alpha vs. Heath Slater and Rhyno vs. Breezango vs. The Usos vs. The Ascension vs. The Vaudevillains - Tag team turmoil match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship * Alexa Bliss vs. Naomi - Singles match for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship * Mojo Rawley vs. Curt Hawkins - Singles match * Nikki Bella vs. Natalya - Singles match * Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James - Singles match * Apollo Crews and Kalisto vs. Dolph Ziggler - 2-on-1 handicap match * Luke Harper vs. Randy Orton - Singles match
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 10, 2017, 03:45:51 pm
I'll watch as my subscription is good till the end of the month lol I keep up with news mostly for the live stuff, but there's probably a good match here and there worth checking out. Elimination Chamber will be good, the tag team match could be fun, Lynch and James could maybe be alright, and Luke Harper vs Randy Orton should be good and that's a big story heavy match too with whats going on.
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Post by: doafan on February 12, 2017, 02:33:24 pm
Luke Harper vs Randy Orton should be good and that's a big story heavy match too with whats going on.
That's correct, this is one of the two matches that will not gonna miss, got the feeling that Randy is going to win and the other one will be the Elimination Chamber for the WWE Championship, I can bet that Cena is going to retain cause he needs to defend the title at Wrestlemania against Orton but what I want to know is how the hell is Kevin going to retain his belt against Goldberg at Fastlane, this thanks to Jericho who this past Raw made official the match between these two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbwYS8pBxuk) (minute 11:20) ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 12, 2017, 04:57:41 pm
Watched a little bit of 205 Live and caught a Jack Gallagher match, the goofy Englishman from the Royal Rumble that I had never seen before and he's not bad. He's apparently going to Fastlane to fight Neville for the belt.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 12, 2017, 11:06:09 pm
Holy crap, I had heard the talk of this happening, but I can't believe they did it. Bray Wyatt is now not only a WWE Champion, but he's headlining Wrestlemania in a match versus Randy Orton. We aren't getting Cena vs Orton! Woo!
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Post by: doafan on February 13, 2017, 11:04:37 am
Thank god we are not going to have that match anyway even when am not a big fan of The Eater of Worlds am very happy with the results of the elimination chamber, never expected to see Styles and Bray teaming but they did a good job, AJ has always was phenomenal, that Springboard 450 was simply amazing by the way the chamber has suffered some changes, I remember that the outside part of the ring was covered by steel and not by that protective floor, Dean was practically in his environment just like the announcer said he was like a kid in a candy store but The Miz was scared as hell, he was the last and the one that did the less cause he didn't beat the lunatic that was Corbin, was expecting to see at least three wrestlers against the lone wolf and not being eliminated by Ambrose but I guess that it was ok about good guy Cena he spend the last moments at the floor recovering, by the was it was only me or did the crowd boo him at sometimes of the match ?
About Randy vs Luke it was a decent match, still amaze me how Harper can move that fast for a man of his size and with those damn kicks was expecting to see him winning this match but it was obvious that Oron had to win this one, didn't saw the this one but we also got a new women champion this sure was unexpected so let's see how Naomi defends her belt.
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Post by: doafan on February 14, 2017, 10:28:01 am
Yesterdays RAW leaved me speechless I mean first we got a new Women's Champion when Bailey defeated Charlotte whit a little help of The Boss in a match that was good enough not only to been seen by me, even my wife was watching this match at my side and she doesn't like to see the ladies, we got the idea that Flair was about to retain the belt when Dana come to the ringside just to help her friend and from nowhere Sasha came too, guess that the writers finally decided to gave her a chance after all we also got a new Women's Champion at SmackDown.
But the moment that not only leaved me speechless also it broke my heart (am quite sure that I wasn't the only one) was at the Festival of Friendship when after Jericho opened his heart to Owens with some gifts and the best speech of friendship that I have ever heard in my entire life the champ decided to give Y2J his "present", I know this is scripted and have to said that it was so well done that I almost cried like a kiddo knowing this just have one question: Why Kevin WHY ? :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 14, 2017, 05:18:07 pm
Just watched it on WWE Youtube. I love that they did this big thing to end the friendship between them. Thats just awesome and a fitting way to move on.
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Post by: doafan on February 15, 2017, 01:02:37 pm
Guess that since they are not friends anymore my theory that KO will lost the belt against Goldberg at Fastlane and that Kevin will fight against Jericho at Wrestlemania has more sense now, really expect this to happen where of course Y2J has to beat the crap outta Owens, am a big fan of the fat dude but it'll be awesome if this became true, just something like what it happened with the rivalry with Sami Zayn anyway yesterday we have the first defense of the title where Wyatt retained the belt in a triple threat match against Cena and AJ Styles, damn it was good that saw it twice, first on the TV and later on the iPad ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on February 27, 2017, 05:58:36 pm
This Thursday will be an interesting night for wrestling fans.
The Jarrett era officially begins (again) this with this Thursday's episode of Impact. Dixie Carter is gone.
I will be tuned in with hopes of a renewed TNA. How about you?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 27, 2017, 06:59:48 pm
I don't watch TNA in any way, but word is that Hardy's are likely leaving TNA after contract negotiations fell through. I'm curious if they would go back to WWE and bring this new brand of crazy they created.
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Post by: doafan on February 27, 2017, 08:46:33 pm
I'm curious if they would go back to WWE and bring this new brand of crazy they created.
Oh god, no, please don't read kamikazekeeg post ;D
Not too many places they could actually go too at this point I think lol
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Post by: burningdoom on February 27, 2017, 11:40:49 pm
I find it ironic that WWE promotes anti-bullying, but the entire Raw announce team just continually talks shit to poor ole Byron Saxton for 3 hours, lol.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 28, 2017, 12:07:46 am
I find it ironic that WWE promotes anti-bullying, but the entire Raw announce team just continually talks shit to poor ole Byron Saxton for 3 hours, lol.
I swear, the only guys I can stand on the announce teams are Mauro Ranallo and Corey Graves. Cole is okay, but I really don't like JBL, Saxton, and Ortunga lol
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Post by: doafan on February 28, 2017, 12:18:27 pm
Not too many places they could actually go too at this point I think lol
What intrigues me is that yesterday The Boss twitted Matt Hardy and that this last one replied to her comment also the fact that apparently The Hardys were in Pittsburgh yesterday, this is the city where it works Joseph Maroon who is the main Doctor of the WWE, this make me think if they were doing the medical tests that they do before signing with the company ???
(http://i.imgur.com/JgnATq5.png)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 28, 2017, 01:11:14 pm
Some people are thinking they could show up at like Wrestlemania weekend for a big comeback if they do go back to WWE.
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Post by: burningdoom on February 28, 2017, 01:33:11 pm
Some people are thinking they could show up at like Wrestlemania weekend for a big comeback if they do go back to WWE.
That would depend if they have a no-compete clause in their contracts, like most WWE contracts have.
WWE's is 90 days, IIRC. And Wrestlemania is about a month out. So I think they would miss the day if that is the case.
It seems, in the last few years, they wait for big reveals until just after WrestleMania, anyways, and give the part-timers their spotlight at WrestleMania, while finishing off the previous year's storylines with the rest of the roster. And then sort of start fresh again after WM.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 28, 2017, 10:32:53 pm
Some people are thinking they could show up at like Wrestlemania weekend for a big comeback if they do go back to WWE.
That would depend if they have a no-compete clause in their contracts, like most WWE contracts have.
WWE's is 90 days, IIRC. And Wrestlemania is about a month out. So I think they would miss the day if that is the case.
It seems, in the last few years, they wait for big reveals until just after WrestleMania, anyways, and give the part-timers their spotlight at WrestleMania, while finishing off the previous year's storylines with the rest of the roster. And then sort of start fresh again after WM.
That's more what I meant as "Wrestlemania Weekend" is basically 4 days long, stretching into the Raw and Smackdown afterwards. I could see them showing up on Raw or Smackdown.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 01, 2017, 02:18:53 am
The Wrestletalk report I watched tonight says that their contracts DO NOT have a no-compete clause...
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Post by: doafan on March 01, 2017, 12:08:49 pm
The Wrestletalk report I watched tonight says that their contracts DO NOT have a no-compete clause...
Which means that they are in, that they will make random appearances, that they will be at Wrestlemania ?, come on man give me more details please ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on March 01, 2017, 12:41:20 pm
Sorry, I can only share what I saw on there. That's all the details they gave.
The rest was speculation, like if and when they'd join. If WWE would even let them use their gimmick, or if WWE would make them return to the Team Xtreme gimmick. Or if they even wanted to since creative control is a big deal to them at the moment.
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Post by: doafan on March 01, 2017, 01:02:06 pm
Or if they even wanted to since creative control is a big deal to them at the moment.
Have to say that am not a big fan of the creative team of the WWE cause they suck but if they give Matt full control of the creative side just like they do with Wyatt and his character/story I'll be happy ;)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 01, 2017, 03:06:19 pm
I feel like the only way the Hardy's would go back to WWE, is if they can keep creative control and push their crazy gimmick. Or they get one hell of a contract, but I am guessing they feel they are in a place where they do have options as they don't HAVE to go to WWE.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 03, 2017, 12:39:12 pm
Well damn, after all that speculation and wondering, it was just business as usual on Impact Wrestling. Granted, I haven't made it to the end of the episode, quite yet. So I don't know if there was a big surprise at the end.
However, we still have something to look forward to. Pope mentioned that he heard from his sources that the new owner will be in next week and big changes are coming.
BTW, am I the only that just doesn't get the popularity of The Broken Hardyz? Is it supposed to be ironic, or what? Because to me it just comes off as a really bad B-movie style.
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Post by: doafan on March 05, 2017, 11:41:07 am
In a couple of hours more we are going to have the Fastlane event so I will reveal the list of the official matches for tonight show even when I only want to see one damn match ;D
Kevin Owens vs. Goldberg - Singles match for the WWE Universal Championship: Owens his going to lose the belt and not only because of Goldberg, have the feeling that Jericho will gonna interfere here just to take revenge of KO for how he broke the relationship but also am not so sure of this and the reason is that Kevin 100% dedicated at the show, matches and all that stuff related to the WWE when the other one just made some random appearances just to create the hype among the oldest fans, don't get the wrong idea but since we haven't seen Y2J around RAW these past days he seriously need to be here, so hope that the lazy writters from the company can make a proper job. Neville vs. Jack Gallagher - Singles match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Really expect to see the gentleman as the new CW champion so hope that don't you dare to judge me * Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson vs. Enzo Amore and Big Cass Tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: I bet some tacos that the champions will gonna retain the belts. * Rich Swann and Akira Tozawa vs. The Brian Kendrick and Noam Dar (with Alicia Fox) Tag team match: Dunno who they are so I only expect this match to be part of the Kickoff show. * Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe Singles match: Already have seen the best that these two can offer at the contender's 2-out-of-3 falls match that was aired this past Mar. 9, 2016 at NXT. * Bayley vs. Charlotte Flair Singles match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship: Don't have anything against Bayley but why the hell do I have to see Rick's Flair again. * Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax Singles match: If Sasha win I will riot, seriously wont gonna watch this one mainly because am not a big fan of these ladies * Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman Singles match: No am not gonna watch this, hell no, so fuck you Roman and all your empire.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 05, 2017, 03:09:16 pm
Almost forgot that was today. More excited for the Owens match because I think this will be the first time Goldberg actually wrestles unless I missed him doing so on TV. His two moments with Brock Lesnar were instant and done with lol Should be good though with Owens in it. The rest is a mixed bag of good and okay, but not sure if I'll watch it. Bit of a messy weekend for me and I think I just want to play more Breath of the Wild lol
*EDIT* Oh, well I'm glad I didn't up my subscription. They did ANOTHER instant knock out, but this time for the belt? I'd say the same thing even if wasn't KO...that was really fucking stupid. So all of this build up and what? Two part timers are now fighting for the belts and the likelihood of Brock winning it is now sky high with him getting punked twice now, making it nearly a guarantee? Whenever I hear people saying that Smackdown is generally doing better than Raw, this is basically why. They had a chance to redeem the old Goldberg vs Lesnar stink they did years ago, but they'll be going into it with this stinker of a match hanging over it? Both of them are over, but not enough when it's all too likely that Brock will just win and we don't actually know if Goldberg can even wrestle, hence them ending every match he's had incredibly quick. Man this match at Wrestlemania could really suck.
Only single good aspect of this, is that it pushes forward the Jericho and KO feud and KO maybe coming out of Wrestlemania with the US belt. One glimmer of light in this mess.
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Post by: doafan on March 06, 2017, 12:02:29 pm
Whenever I hear people saying that Smackdown is generally doing better than Raw, this is basically why.
If you haven't heard it from me before let me tell you that this is true, it's damn true about the event I saw a couple of matches even saw the beginning and the end of the one between Reigns and Strowman because my wife love the conditioner guy but the one that totally steal the show was the one between the Gentleman and Nevile, seriously never expected that Gallager was a such hardcore wrestler if you haven't seen it let me tell you that you need to see this one first, those headbutts were so fucking insane also at least at three times almost expected that the match was about to being canceled because of those awful impacts that he received at his neck, won't gonna give you more spoilers just watch it, please.
Only single good aspect of this, is that it pushes forward the Jericho and KO feud and KO maybe coming out of Wrestlemania with the US belt. One glimmer of light in this mess.
In an interview KO told that he doesn't have any interest for this belt and a glad of this cause the reputation of this belt is not what it's supposed to be anyway what I do want to see is the development and conclusion of this feud which I guess it will end at Wrestlemania so do expect to see a lot of these two at the following RAW shows, so can't wait to see tonight's show just to see what happens next.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 09, 2017, 12:44:20 pm
So my DVR didn't record Smackdown this week because the onscreen guide changed the spelling of the name from "WWE Smackdown!" (with an exclamation point) to "WWE Smackdown" (without an exclamation point)...so stupid.
And I JUST cancelled my subscription to Hulu like 2 weeks ago because they no longer have CW shows (like all my superhero shows), and with other shows they have the whole "5 episodes only" crap going on this season. So maybe I'll see it in like a month on The Network (so stupid you have to wait to see new Smackdowns and Raws on their own freaking subscription service).
Anyways, in other wrestling news: The Jarrett Era begins on Impact Wrestling tonight (it's officially no longer "TNA Impact" anymore, just "Impact Wrestling").
I know I said that last week, but apparantly WrestleTalk misinformed me, last week was the last Dixie Carter Era episode.
Wrestling was always better with two mainstream companies. But Impact will never become mainstream if you don't give it a chance. It's a whole new regime, people!
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Post by: doafan on March 09, 2017, 01:03:11 pm
Do you want to hear or in this case watch a bad new ?, I'll leave these gifs just in case you haven't heard it :'(
But not everything is bad news because Chris Jericho wants Kevin Owens at WrestleMania (http://www.wwe.com/videos/chris-jericho-wants-kevin-owens-at-wrestlemania-raw-march-6-2017) and the belt is on the line.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 09, 2017, 01:07:04 pm
Wasn't that the former week's episode? Because I saw that. ??? Braun Strowman was involved, right?
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Post by: burningdoom on March 09, 2017, 01:47:35 pm
They brought back Don West...WHY?!
He's got to be the most obnoxious announcer of all-time. At least they didn't put him on the main announce team, right now he's just being the product seller guy.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 09, 2017, 02:58:49 pm
I'm very excited for the changes! It looks like Jarrett isn't waiting for Impact to do it, either.
I tried to check out their site to get a little preview on what's going on tonight. And it's down for maintenance.
Man I hope TNA can recover with Jarrett in charge. I used to like Impact better than WWE during WWE's PG-Era.
http://www.impactwrestling.com/
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Post by: burningdoom on March 09, 2017, 04:59:59 pm
Hmm, I have a hard time believing that this wasn't scripted.
I mean, during the segment he told the people in the back to cut Cena's mic, and they did. And no one cut Miz's mic. It seems completely scripted, to me. And the segment totally set-up for Maryse vs. Nikki Bella, as well.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 10, 2017, 03:49:36 pm
***SPOILERS AHEAD!***
The new Jarrett Era of Impact Wrestling (no longer TNA) has begun!
It wasn't bad. Wasn't spectacular, but was definitely a step-up from the TNA of the last few years. It was good enough to get me to tune in again next week, with some room to improve.
Alberto Del Rio (Alberto El Patreon, in TNA), Jeremy Borasch, Bruce Prichard (Brother Love), and Dutch Mantell (Zeb Coulter) all showed up. Alberto Del Rio won the championship from Bobby Lashley, on his first night (typical TNA to grace an ex-WWE star with an immediate title run). It was actually a pretty damn good match, but it did end in the typical TNA, controversial end.
Jeremy Borasch and Josh Matthews started an announcer feud, which I've seen people complaining about already, but I thought it was kind of cool.
The Hardyz' tag-titles were handed over to Decay after a segment showing the Hardyz transporting away to continue their "Expedition of Gold".
Unfortunately, the X-Division match was still a cluster-fuck. It's a shame they can't build good storyline and feuds in the X-Division, as it's TNA's greatest asset. No one cares if every single match is 6 random guys in the ring.
Both Bruce Prichard and Dutch Mantell gave promos directly aimed at the fans. They admitted that TNA had lost it's way and stopped listening to the fans. And they promised that going forward, TNA will do better for the fans and become great again.
What did you guys think?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 11, 2017, 03:42:10 am
I had almost forgotten that Balor was supposed to be maybe coming back around Wrestlemania after his injury and he is back now! He did a house show that was a crazy 3 on 3 teamup of HHH, Owens, and Joe, vs Balor, Zayn, and Jericho. I think its too late for him to get involved in any belt shenanigans by Wrestlemania, but maybe he gets a new go at the belt afterwards? I know Rollins would be in it for that fight too, but maybe we could see something come up with Rollins and Balor coming together against a KO, Joe, and HHH threat of some sort.
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Post by: doafan on March 11, 2017, 12:50:11 pm
Alberto Del Rio (Alberto El Patreon, in TNA), Jeremy Borasch, Bruce Prichard (Brother Love), and Dutch Mantell (Zeb Coulter) all showed up. Alberto Del Rio won the championship from Bobby Lashley, on his first night (typical TNA to grace an ex-WWE star with an immediate title run). It was actually a pretty damn good match, but it did end in the typical TNA, controversial end.
I swear that I just saw the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y41LZNrrnk) a couple of minutes a go and immediately came here to post it but got the feeling that you already have leaved a comment and wasn't wrong, not a big fan of TNA anymore but I do follow the news anyway what the hell is going with Jarret cause the last that I know is that this bastard wants go the with the rights of the name and the character of Broken Matt Hardy, ROH even received and of course ignored the letter that they received from TNA where it say that ROH can't use that name because it's a trademark from them, can you explain me this a little more please.
Didn't wanted to double reply but it seems that Balor might be back, he formed a team with Jericho and Sami against Owens, Samoa a Triple H yesterday at Buffalo, New York ;D
Alberto Del Rio (Alberto El Patreon, in TNA), Jeremy Borasch, Bruce Prichard (Brother Love), and Dutch Mantell (Zeb Coulter) all showed up. Alberto Del Rio won the championship from Bobby Lashley, on his first night (typical TNA to grace an ex-WWE star with an immediate title run). It was actually a pretty damn good match, but it did end in the typical TNA, controversial end.
I swear that I just saw the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y41LZNrrnk) a couple of minutes a go and immediately came here to post it but got the feeling that you already have leaved a comment and wasn't wrong, not a big fan of TNA anymore but I do follow the news anyway what the hell is going with Jarret cause the last that I know is that this bastard wants go the with the rights of the name and the character of Broken Matt Hardy, ROH even received and of course ignored the letter that they received from TNA where it say that ROH can't use that name because it's a trademark from them, can you explain me this a little more please.
First I'm hearing about that. I didn't follow TNA either, because of how bad they were doing. I just started watching again to see what Jarrett was going to do because I used to like TNA.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 12, 2017, 06:27:11 pm
How did Randy Orton become #1 contender to WWE Title at WrestleMania exactly?
Better yet, I guess I should ask: How exacty did A.J. Styles lose his spot? The storyline writing there was asinine. They really didn't give a good a reason other than Randy Orton stepped in. A.J. had his spot earned, and after he had to wrestle Harper more than once to get it, too. Why even put him through any of that if they were just gonna give the spot to Orton anyways?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 12, 2017, 06:32:05 pm
How did Randy Orton become #1 contender to WWE Title at WrestleMania exactly?
Better yet, I guess I should ask: How exacty did A.J. Styles lose his spot? The storyline writing there was asinine. They really didn't give a good a reason other than Randy Orton stepped in. A.J. had his spot earned, and after he had to wrestle Harper more than once to get it, too. Why even put him through any of that if they were just gonna give the spot to Orton anyways?
Not really sure from what I remember reading, though I'm okay with it from a mostly story telling point of view...even if I never understood why Orton was with the Wyatts in the first place lol. Also I keep hearing that Shane might be getting involved with Styles and I have to wonder why? Like Shane did his thing with Undertaker in an okay match with an insane ending, but like...I thought that was his last hurrah. Did I just read that wrong somewhere or is it less of an actual fight and them just butting heads?
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Post by: burningdoom on March 12, 2017, 06:37:17 pm
He was the Royal Rumble winner, someone else pointed it out to me. He just lied about not wanting to cash-in on Wyatt.
I didn't get SmackDown this week, because DVR didn't record it. So I was catching up via WWE This Week on The Network, and that detail escaped me.
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Post by: doafan on March 13, 2017, 02:49:19 pm
He was the Royal Rumble winner, someone else pointed it out to me. He just lied about not wanting to cash-in on Wyatt.
Allow me to say that you missed a great match so watch this past Smackdown show but meanwhile just watch this footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHzv4NASNPg) ;)
Didn't wanted to double post just to say that cannot believe that House Shows are much better than RAW shows, take for example the last one between where we had Balor, Jericho and Sami against Owens, Samoa a Triple H which by the way it can be seen here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NpxiyriQE) at the minute 01:53 and the one between Lesnar vs Owens, fuck yeah and we have it too here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zxTdW7rG7g) ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on March 14, 2017, 01:36:51 pm
He was the Royal Rumble winner, someone else pointed it out to me. He just lied about not wanting to cash-in on Wyatt.
Allow me to say that you missed a great match so watch this past Smackdown show but meanwhile just watch this footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHzv4NASNPg) ;)
Didn't wanted to double post just to say that cannot believe that House Shows are much better than RAW shows, take for example the last one between where we had Balor, Jericho and Sami against Owens, Samoa a Triple H which by the way it can be seen here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0NpxiyriQE) at the minute 01:53 and the one between Lesnar vs Owens, fuck yeah and we have it too here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zxTdW7rG7g) ;D
Awesome! That sounds like test run for the HHH run faction that has been rumored to be the post-WrestleMania storyline.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 15, 2017, 02:01:18 pm
(http://i64.tinypic.com/mwyws7.jpg)
Holy crap! Tom Savini is a wrestling fan! That makes him even cooler than he already was, which I didn't think was possible.
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Post by: doafan on March 15, 2017, 02:11:08 pm
Guess that he is going to do some special effects to the WWE or maybe he'll try to convince the audience that Reigns is good ;D
Anyway did you saw yesterday's SmackDown need to know what the hell happened to Shane cause I was at the damn work.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 15, 2017, 02:30:29 pm
No, I watch my wrestling in segments through out the week. I'm still in the middle of Raw, haven't even made it to Smackdown yet.
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Post by: doafan on March 15, 2017, 02:55:03 pm
Didn't resisted the temptation to see it a home so I just saw the highlights, it seems that AJ Styles was fired by Daniel after he beat the hell of Shame because he won't going to be part of the main event at WM, his profile was removed from the Superstars section to the Alumni section at the WWE page, even when he was fired Shane announced that he will be fighting against the Phenomenal at Wrestlemania, now do you believe me that SmackDown is better than RAW ?, still hope that at the next Draft Sami and Cesaro can go to the blue mark.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 28, 2017, 04:02:21 pm
I'm gonna get all kinds of crap for this one probably, but...
ECW sucks. I really tried to get into it on the WWE Network. But after the initial newness of it wears off, the poor in-ring work (not everyone, but a good majority of them), the lack of long-term storylines, and the repeating of themes over and over again really shows through. After years and years of acting like the underdogs on their show, that "HOO-RAH!" attitude starts to lose meaning too.
I'm glad that WWF went into the Attitude Era, because they took what was good in ECW, and refined into something more palatable.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 28, 2017, 04:51:50 pm
I've seen bits of ECW over the years and yeah I wasn't a huge fan either. I understand the idea behind it, it was rougher, nastier, it wasn't polished like WWE or WCW or anything else like that. I'd also agree that the Attitude Era is what took that roughness and made it more actually entertaining, faults and all.
Wrestlemania is this weekend and it could have some interesting possibilities. I'm worried about some of it, unsure of others, but there could be some good stuff here possibly.
Orton vs Wyatt: WWE Championship - I'm really hoping they don't take the obvious route of putting another belt on Orton, but I could see this being good as I like Wyatt and I don't have Orton fatigue as others do who've been watching for years.
Goldberg vs Lesnar: Universal Championship - This is an unsure one. This could easily turn out to be kinda lame, just a bunch of suplex's and spears, but I'm mildly hopeful that with the build up of Goldberg domination, that they have something entertaining to pull out. Don't really care who wins anyways, they are both part timers, so it's relatively unimportant since the belt will go to someone else pretty soon afterwards I bet.
Seth Rollins vs HHH: Non-Sanctioned Match - This has real interesting story potential. I'm throwing this out there as there's been talk of a new stable happening with HHH, Owens, and Joe, which seemed clear with Joe running in to help Owens, so maybe we see the Shield run in to help Rollins. It would be kind of a rehash of HHH vs Sting at Wrestlemania, but this would be better since all the guys this time can actually still wrestle lol
Undertaker vs Reigns - This is the one I'm worried about. This is very likely Undertakers last Wrestlemania. Everyone is saying that he's just not physically capable of going on and I'm worried they use this as Reigns retiring Undertaker to get a boost. Except it won't work. They can't turn the crowd to Reigns. Normally I'd be fine with a legend putting over someone else as they go out, but this won't benefit Roman. At this point, I want to see Undertaker go out on top. I know it buries, slightly literally here, the newer talent, which isn't a great idea, but I think its the best way for him to end his career.
Shane McMahon vs Styles - I don't know why this is happening truly, I don't see McMahon needing to do this after his match with Taker which should've been a high point, and though I'm sure Styles could turn this into a good match and Shane will do some big 'ole jump again that looks great, I feel this is kind of a weak fight for Wrestlemania.
Raw Women's Championship Fatal 4 Way - Good enough story here, Bayley, Charlotte, and Sasha are good wrestlers and Jax makes for a tougher take down target, so it could be okay.
Jericho vs Owens: US Championship - Both are great guys, this should be a solid match and I'm sure there will be shenanigans here, much like there was with Owens and Zayne again on Raw.
Cena/Bella vs Miz/Maryse - This is a thing.
Ambrose vs Corbin: IC Championship - Don't expect too much out of this, but it should be fine.
Bliss vs Everyone: Smackdown Women's Championship - When you don't watch the tv show, its weird when certain matches come up. I'm not entirely sure how this match will work, I'm watching Smackdown tonight, so I'll find out, but this could be alright? Should be kinda wild.
Neville vs Aries: Cruiserweight Championship - Both are good wrestlers, so this should be solid to watch for sure. I like the more aggressive Neville. Made him a more interesting character.
Raw Tag Team Match Triple Threat - Good enough guys here, made into a ladder match last night (Sheamus got opened up nastily by a ladder on Raw), might be alright.
Andre Battle Royal - I'm a sucker for Rumble and Battle Royal matches. I could see Strowman taking it perhaps.
And that's all for just Wrestlemania. NXT Takeover is Saturday and there could be some fun stuff there.
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Post by: burningdoom on March 31, 2017, 02:35:14 pm
I'm looking forward to this. Great class this year!
I almost forgot this was tonight, that they make Wrestlemania an entire weekend thing as NXT Takeover is tomorrow and Wrestlemania is a bajillion hours on Sunday.
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Post by: doafan on March 31, 2017, 02:42:56 pm
I'm looking forward to this. Great class this year!
Thanks for remind me that it is tonight, haven't seen anything related to the WWE this past fifteen days but I do want to see this one, specially the Kurt Angle introduction ;)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 01, 2017, 09:12:32 pm
Holy crap, DIY vs Revival vs AOP could be the match of the weekend. This is incredible. The ending was kinda poor, but overall there was some incredible spots going on.
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Post by: doafan on April 02, 2017, 01:33:57 pm
Can't believe that they chanted "You Suck" at Kurt's introduction to the Hall of Fame but I have to admit that if I were part of that crowd definitely I would have done the same anyway about tonight's Wrestlemania believe it or not just want to see two matches, Owens vs. Jericho and Orton vs. Wyatt just to see if these feuds finally come to an end and we can see new ones also because practically these matches means something that some of us have been waiting for years and that's the reunion between old and new generations in a main event of course these are not the only ones, maybe HHH vs Rollins and Styles vs. Shane will be decent/fine to watch but the one between Reings vs. Taker is and I can beat my soul that it will be pure bullshit about Lesnar vs. Goldberg will give this one the benefit of the doubt, gonna come tomorrow just to see if I was wrong ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 02, 2017, 05:52:49 pm
While the Kickoff show is usually set for kinda nothing matches, I feel like they did a smart thing by putting Neville and Aries on it. This is a good match and the crowd is into it even with it being the start of like 100 hours of Wrestlemania lol I'm sure its looked at as treating the Cruiserweight match poorly, but I think it works out here. Helps that it wasn't like last year where the stadium got screwed over by issues and it took hours for people to get inside, leaving the kickoff show with a half empty stadium.
Plan: Build up this big meetup between Strowman and Big Show at the Andre rumble match. Never actually have them fight, get tossed out with minutes. Profit? Not that I expected them to win, Strowman perhaps, but man that was weak lol Maybe they settle it on a PPV. Surprised with the winner.
Corbin vs Ambrose was your usual Corbin vs Ambrose match lol No real surprises, but totally fine.
Now we on Styles vs McMahon. One confusing match that I feel could be good, mostly because its Styles. He can make gold of practically anything. Wow, Shane is actually doing it. He's looking good. I think he realized he needed to do something else as it would be hard for him to do anything as crazy as his match against Undertaker. Yeah this match is legit. I recommend this for sure.
Wasting no time in the Jericho vs Owens match. This is good right off the bat. No joke, this is an incredible start to Wrestlemania with both Styles vs McMahon, and KO vs Jericho.
The three team tag match was DELETED and became a Fatal 4 Way. This is good.
Rollins vs HHH is yet another good match. I wasn't sure how many good matches we'd get at Wrestlemania, but its been mostly good so far outside of Cena/Bella vs Miz/Maryse and the Women's Raw Championship which was just okay.
Not Bob Marley and Pitbull doing a song. Why can't we have like Metallica rocking it? I mean their song was supporting Rollins vs HHH. Get them to do some kickass medley...Man, it's complaining about the Superbowl Half-Time Show all over again lol
Bummer, weak match for Orton vs Wyatt. Not terrible and it had good ideas, but it was just an easy win for Orton in the end. Oh geez, I just realized that the whole ending of Wrestlemania could be disappointing with what is left.
Yup, Lesnar vs Goldberg was as expected. Short and predictable. Hopefully someone takes the belt off Brock tomorrow somehow at Raw so we can be done with Brock for awhile. Suplex City and Spears get pretty dull fast.
And that's it. Undertaker is done. Ending on a lackluster match, where it won't benefit Roman in any way, because of course it won't. I really wish they had put him with someone else that could've done really benefited from taking down a legend like him. Undertaker is way past time to be in the ring, but its a hollow victory for Roman.
Well, overall, this was a fairly good Wrestlemania. Cena/Miz was weak, so was Taker/Reigns, Lesnar/Goldberg. Great matches though were Neville/Aries, HHH/Rollins, Jericho/Owens, Raw Tag Team Championship, and Styles/Shane. The rest were just fine. I don't think I could say there was a truly bad match here which was nice, just weaker ones that didn't really offer much, though Taker/Reigns had some alright spots, they just couldn't muster up enough from it and there was a poor botch where it looked like Roman was trying to Tombstone Taker but either he couldn't roll him up into it or Taker couldn't lift himself into it, most likely just due to Taker running out of steam. Then it just kinda plodded to the end with a bunch of spears. I'm glad Taker got a final match to put it all to rest, but this was no Flair/Michaels.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 04, 2017, 01:00:20 pm
WrestleMania thoughts:
-Shane vs. Styles was the surprise match of the night. We knew Shane could fight, but who knew he could actually wrestle?
-Hardyz return was, of course, a highlight of the night. I'm still not sure, even after Raw, if we're getting Team Xtreme or The Broken Hardyz. WWE haven't let them talk, yet.
-Best match was actually at NXT Takeover: Nakamura vs. Bobby Roode. And the better man won. Bobby Roode is the best, most well-rounded performer in all of wrestling today.
-Awesome seeing J.R. come back. I don't know if his return or the Hardyz return was more exciting.
-Sad to see Undertaker go. But the way he exited the ring was well done. I do feel he should have went out against a legend, though, and not Reigns.
-Speaking of Reigns, I just don't understand the hate he gets. Yeah, I get it, he's no Stone Cold or Rock, but few are. For a big-man wrestler, I think he does just fine.
-I totally thought Owens vs. Jericho would be the match of the night, but it actually turned out to be one of the more boring matches.
-Lesnar vs. Goldberg...meh. We've all seen it before. And we knew Goldberg wasn't staying after WrestleMania, so we already knew Lesnar was gonna win.
-How stupid was a giant ring, above the ring, as a decoration?
-Biker slut Stephanie, aw yeah!
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Post by: doafan on April 04, 2017, 02:04:26 pm
Managed to watch almost all the matches a couple of hours later and definitely will manage to make some free time to see the Kickoff show this week anyway here are my thoughts:
Shane vs. AJ: Can't deny that it was a good damn match even when sometimes Shane was without an idea what the hell was happening in the ring but the performance of Styles saved it. Jericho vs. Owens: Being honest for a moment had the idea that KO was about to apply a Package pile driver, was expecting more of this also I see weird that Kevin managed to get the United States Championship belt since he didn't asked a rematch for the Universal title. WWE Raw Women's Championship: Only saw the entrances of the ladies where The Boss stole the show but that damn peacock dress from Charlotte leaved me speechless. Tag Team Championship: Seriously was expecting to see Broken Matt and Brother Nero at the WWE but the fact that they are now the new champs makes me forget everything, wonder what were the thoughts of Lita when she was in the same building than her EX. Nikki Bella and John Cena defeated Maryse and The Miz: Decided to watch the full match and am glad to know that people is still booing Cena and that they supported the Miz about the result and the proposal only have to say that it was Lame. Non-sanctioned match: Can somebody tell me what the hell was with HHH entrance, as far as I remember he used to have some amazing ones, Stephanie as always was so sexy and that leather pants leaved nothing to the imagination about the match well I only saw the entrance, like five minutes of it where I was more focused enjoying Step's butt, didn't care a damn bit about the result. WWE Championship: No words can describe my feelings about this one, was so fucking happy when they decided to give Wyatt the belt and now this. Universal Championship: A failed and poor attempt to fix the mess that they did at WMXX, can't believe that at this point they still don't know that a lot of suplex's and spears won't gonna make everybody satisfied, a pathetic performance of these two but am pretty sure that Vince doesn't give a shit about my opinion. WWE SmackDown Women's Championship: Didn't saw it and don't care about the result but what did piss me off is why on earth they put this one almost at the end of the show. The Undertaker: There are a lot of wrestlers that are 100 times better than Booman Reigns so why the fuck they choose him to retire a true legend like the Dead Man, there is no way that someday I'll give this ex shield dude my support, again I know that they are trying so desperately hard to make him the face of the company but is so fucking ironic that in a company where you are suppose to entertain the people with amazing skills and performance they are using the one that doesn't have any of these attributes, nothing personal with him but he stills need to cover a long pat to be the main face that runs the company, hell even Cena deserved that place and I do hate him as a person as a wrestler.
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Post by: doafan on April 05, 2017, 07:36:06 pm
Please watch yesterday's SmackDown 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8izXHKZSXw
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 05, 2017, 09:13:11 pm
I watched both Raw and Smackdown and it was great to see Revival show up on Raw and Nakamura show up on Smackdown. I'm already drooling at seeing Nakamura fight Styles again after they killed it at WrestleKingdom about 2 years ago I think. Also expecting DIY to show up on the roster soon, possibly Smackdown next week with whatever this Superstar Shakeup is going to be.
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Post by: muntyjack on April 06, 2017, 06:00:43 am
I love Vader, he is a wrestling Icon in Japan. One of the most popular American wrestlers of all time over there.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 06, 2017, 12:41:12 pm
Shinsuke Nakamura's live-played entrance was freaking epic!
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 10, 2017, 11:27:12 pm
Bit of an actual shakeup with Raw tonight. They are doing the superstar switching by having the other people come over, so for Raw, they got Miz/Maryse, Ambrose, Curt Hawkings, Kallisto, Apollo Crews, Wyatt (I assume perhaps Rowan, he's still on Smackdown on their website though), Bliss, Mickie James, and Slater/Rhyno for the tag team. I feel like Smackdown lost too much by losing the IC belt with Ambrose. That leaves no unique belt with Smackdown, while Raw gets the US belt, IC Belt, and Cruiserweight belt. I'm not sure how they are justifying this. Really makes Smackdown look abit lacking in that department, but it was a nice shift in mid tier guys for Raw.
Also, this might've been the best backstage beatdown I've seen since coming back to wrestling 2 years ago. It felt very Attitude era in its brutality and it all looked great. Strowman decimated Reigns in multiple beatdowns, leading him getting pushed off the back docks bound in a gurney and then Strowman would flip the ambulance onto its side in a fit of rage. Its too ridiculous, but damn was it entertaining and I'm not saying that in wanting a beatdown on Roman. Incredible way to make off with the heat on Roman for taking out Taker, while building up Strowman as a legit beast.
Zayn will likely go to Smackdown tomorrow which is cool and I'm curious to see who else they might allow. Looking at who is on the roster, I genuinely don't know as far as bigger names. I'd say Jericho maybe as I think he's done with the Owens feud after today. Getting him and Styles going at it would be great. I want to say Cesaro and Sheamus perhaps together? They got a match against the Hardy's at Payback, so that would guarantee them not winning, but both of them together would be good and they could do solo stuff too. Honestly, I have no idea who else. It feels like Smackdown is really lacking right now, so they could use something big for sure.
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Post by: doafan on April 11, 2017, 09:13:20 pm
Zayn will likely go to Smackdown tomorrow which is cool and I'm curious to see who else they might allow.
You will be surprised my friend ...
(http://i.imgur.com/BIxHm92.png)
... so as I cause didn't expected this and now will return to see SDL at work, yes am at the office right now ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 11, 2017, 09:16:37 pm
I was genuinely surprised Owens came over, but it makes sense as Smackdown gets the US Belt. Zayn, Owens, and Nakamura fresh on the roster is amazing.
*EDIT* The new Day are coming to Smackdown! That's a big get I think and will really spice things up there and give them a chance to go for the Smackdown belts. Also Rusev (who is recovering from injury) is coming to Smackdown and Lana seems to taking the leap into wrestling full on, so she'll most likely not be acting as Rusev's usual manager from now on.
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Post by: doafan on April 12, 2017, 02:54:38 pm
I was genuinely surprised Owens came over, but it makes sense as Smackdown gets the US Belt. Zayn, Owens, and Nakamura fresh on the roster is amazing.
Just wondering if Sami and Owens went to SmackDown together because the WWE staff decided it this way or because KO wanted to be with his friend ?, it's not a lie that the one who takes the decisions in this friendship is Kevin, clear example are the stories that he developed when both of them were part of Ring of Honor, at some point am ok having them at the blue brand but also was expecting to see Zayn do/earn something by him self anyway can't wait to see that match for the US belt between KO and AJ cause is clear as water that Owens is going to retain 8)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2b2423d6eef4e600b7561cde18abc636/tumblr_oo9sue9Q3w1u1ljrzo2_540.gif) Kevin Owens: No. Sami Zayn: Yup.
And is Bray Wyatt on Raw or Smackdown? He was on both shows this week.
Before I answer your question I just want to point out that I forgot there was a wrestling thread on this board again and R-Truth would say....my bad. As of Monday, Bray is on RAW however he does have a contractual rematch for the WWE Title which is happening at the no so much RAW exclusive PPV Payback because on the same night Owens has to defend the US Title against Jericho who is still on RAW. Now per rules of shake up because none of this made any sense, if by some off chance Wyatt lets say wins then he switches with Randy to SD and same with Owens. I thought it was winner gets the title from their brand but not the case it seems.
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Post by: doafan on April 14, 2017, 01:22:49 pm
And is Bray Wyatt on Raw or Smackdown? He was on both shows this week.
He is officially part of Raw but just for a second imagine that he manage to defeat Orton and bring the WWE Championship to the red brand, wouldn't mind to see this belt and the WWE Universal Championship in the same company, if the WWE writers are smart they can re create an event like the Invasion or revive the Raw vs SmackDown events to get the gold back to their home ::)
The following Superstars switched from SmackDown LIVE to Raw during the first night of the Superstar Shake-up:
The Miz & Maryse Intercontinental Champion Dean Ambrose Bray Wyatt Alexa Bliss Mickie James Apollo Crews Kalisto Heath Slater & Rhyno Curt Hawkins
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 18, 2017, 01:48:16 am
What they are doing with Strowman is incredible right now. On Raw, him and Big Show did one of those great "destroy the ring spots" that Big Show is known for, but it works great for this so much more as there was good buildup. The last week Roman gets wrecked in an awesome behind the scenes beat down. This week he terrorized a few stars in the back before getting slammed by Big Show and put into a match that actually went for a reasonable length, like I was worried we were gonna get like a 5 minute match, because that's all that was left, but they went 15 minutes long. Sure it was slow at times, it's got Big Show in it, but they were doing some good spots and they sold everything well. It ends with Strowman slamming show from the top ropes and destroying the ring and wins simply by being the one left standing.
Of course this could all fail miserably with Roman somehow winning at Payback, while injured, but man they are selling this guy as a god damn monster and this new tag of "Monster Among Men" is perfect. He's basically the best big guy they got right now.
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Post by: doafan on April 18, 2017, 10:52:36 am
Of course this could all fail miserably with Roman somehow winning at Payback, while injured, but man they are selling this guy as a god damn monster and this new tag of "Monster Among Men" is perfect. He's basically the best big guy they got right now.
Correction my friend, he is the man right now and now that pussy of Reigns also did you know that some fan boy started a petition wanting Strowman to be fired because he beat the hell out of Roman ? and the best part of all is that Braun even replied to the petition with the following Tweet, it might be true it might not but damn it's some good publicity for the big man 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 27, 2017, 06:02:24 pm
With Payback coming, I'm so worried they are gonna screw up Strowman. The booking for him has been amazing and his match with Kalisto on Monday was great (Kalisto is looking good right now too with his new look and theme and did an impressive job fighting a much bigger guy. That he won was done in such a great way).
I'm sure the gimmick of the match is that Roman will still be hurt and he'll do some big spots, but he can't win. It would kill Strowman I think and it won't benefit Roman anymore than it did retiring Taker. I know it's bad to have the guy who beat Taker getting stomped, but Strowman is very much the new Undertaker or new Lesnar. A massive guy who is destructive as all hell. They have a big, winning, heel with Strowman and his push has been the best I've seen lately. Like off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that has been better. Rollins to some degree in terms of the cowardly corporate heel and eventual face turn against HHH, but that had some stumbling steps.
Otherwise, I'm hoping Wyatt vs Orton is good, it sounds like it's an off-site match that'll merge into the ring, but it could be terrible if done wrong. It sucks that Wyatt is used so poorly. I also hope with him in Raw that he doesn't get Strowman back. Strowman destroying Wyatt would be perfect with his new monster persona.
Rollins vs Joe has potential as both are good.
Owens vs Jericho should be good of course.
Hardyz vs Sheamus & Cesaro could be alright, both are doing good now.
Bayley vs Bliss might be okay. I'm alright with Bayley, but still not seeing what everyone is seeing in Bliss. Like I understand she's better on the mic than most, but not quite seeing the wrestling stuff in her favor, but to be fair, I haven't watched a lot of her wrestling yet.
And Enzo/Cass vs Gallows/Anderson is just gonna be their usual thing. I still like Enzo/Cass, great personalities, but Gallows/Anderson are kinda boring heels. Especially with Gallows calling other people "nerds" and such. It's stupid. Big Cass, the huge New Yorker and the flamboyant firecracker from Jersey are "nerds"? Its a lame insult that doesn't even work for this PG era.
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Post by: doafan on April 28, 2017, 02:58:27 pm
Kinda rare that you didn't mentioned the Miz TV Show at the Kickshow, Finn Balor will be the special guest this time, I rather prefer to see this one instead of the match between Cass and Enzo vs. Anderson and Gallows about the other matches only have to say that I do almost share your opinion with all of them with just a small change, the fight between Owens and Y2J will be Awesome, I mean they have everything to steal the show, so I do expect a big match, really hope that they don't disappoint me ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 28, 2017, 04:44:26 pm
I just didn't mention it cause its not a match lol I mean, they'll probably fight for some reason, they gotta, otherwise it'll be a dead spot for the kickoff.
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Post by: burningdoom on April 28, 2017, 08:10:49 pm
So Miz wants to play Booster Gold in the CW DC Universe (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow).
I can see it. The cocky attitude, that no one takes seriously. That's just like Booster Gold. And we know he can handle the action side of the role.
My only worry: I have no idea if he can actually act or not.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 28, 2017, 08:36:46 pm
So Miz wants to play Booster Gold in the CW DC Universe (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow).
I can see it. The cocky attitude, that no one takes seriously. That's just like Booster Gold. And we know he can handle the action side of the role.
My only worry: I have no idea if he can actually act or not.
I think I've heard he's just alright, I never watched anything he's been in though, but I could see him doing a Booster Gold.
*EDIT* Geez, what a terrible name for a PPV..."Great Balls of Fire". Nothing like connecting with your under 50 audience with a song reference they probably won't know or care about and that the PPV won't actually involve any fire. As seen in this article, the one guy that does do stuff with fire, Kane, is basically done wrestling, at least for the moment, so they don't even have that lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 30, 2017, 09:09:33 pm
Enzo/Cass vs Gallows/Anderson was what you'd expect, which is fine.
Jericho vs KO was of course good, again what you'd expect out of both of them too. I love that they made the finger a part of the match from their last one. That's quality story telling.
Hardys vs Sheamus/Cesaro was another good match and I think we are about to see Broken Matt. Also didn't expect the heel turn here. Good stuff though.
God, Strowman backstage promo...Please don't lose Strowman. I also don't think there is a good way for a sneaky win here either like with Kalisto. Strowman needs to keep Roman stomped. They can make it close, but Strowman as this real monster is such an incredible push that everyone is behind.
I missed the start, but Bliss vs Bayley was actually fairly good with the latter half. There are times when the women wrestlers just aren't selling their moves right and its what leads to a complete disinterest in the matches. They were looking good here though and I'm seeing why people like the little firecracker Bliss more.
Man, more than a few people were not having that pre-recorded House of Horror setup lol As a streaming viewer, I was fine with it, it's silly, but it was alright. Should've had more going on though. Feels like they didn't really do enough with the setup. Should've been just throwing Randy and Bray through all the walls. Oh well, match could be okay. Hoping Bray wins as it would be a nice boost for him. He keeps getting all this big story moments, but then they just make him lose, killing any idea of him being a threat. He's gotta be more of a threat now being that he'll be solo on Raw.
It'll be nice when we get past the knee angle on Rollins lol Everything about it makes sense as a story angle, but I'm just tired of it at this point lol
Eh, weak ending for this. Sure, a win for Wyatt, but this whole thing was just to build for Jinder and Orton on Smackdown and doesn't make Wyatt seem threatening as he moves to Raw.
And the match for Strowman and Reigns went well...Reigns looks tough and Strowman is still a beast.
Overall, a good show, the only poor one being Orton vs Wyatt just being nothing important.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 02, 2017, 03:19:05 am
Hearing what Wyatt ended up doing last night on Raw...Is Bray Wyatt like one of the worst pushed wrestlers in years? Like Reigns is bad, because he's being pushed as the next big thing, but people don't want him. Wyatt is mostly over still, he gets all these vignettes and promos and he's good at them, his entrance is great, but it's for naught.
Bray, he gets all these big pushes, he gets Wrestlemania spots, he gets these seemingly big stories that no one else gets, but he always seems to lose. I've only be back to watching wrestling the past two years, but since then, he fought Undertaker and lost, then got a small bit with Undertaker and Kane that went nowhere. He brought Braun Strowman in and that was a thing for abit, but went nowhere and then he was split up with the draft. He had this dumb thing with Orton for awhile, he wins the belt, which was awesome, but then loses it to Randy. Then he gets his big gimmick battle, which gets worse the more I think about it, and the worse thing of the PPV, and wins only by interference. Now he's randomly attacking Finn Balor and he'll clearly only just be a filler fight between them till Balor can maybe get a match with Lesnar for the belt. I guarantee that the only reason Wyatt is doing this, is because they can do something with the demon thing Balor has.
If anything, Wyatt still somehow manages to stay in the upper echelon of matches, like he's top mid-card and main event, so I can't feel too bad for him, he's doing well in terms of placement, but come on...You can't keep building him up as this dangerous, threatening, scary, person, if he keeps losing most of the time!
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Post by: burningdoom on May 02, 2017, 12:45:27 pm
Meh, Wyatt is overrated. Way too gimmicky. Anyone could've been Bray Wyatt's character.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 02, 2017, 01:33:54 pm
Meh, Wyatt is overrated. Way too gimmicky. Anyone could've been Bray Wyatt's character.
That's what makes the character fun, because there's not much gimmicky stuff anymore in WWE. It makes him standout from others, even when he's just an alright wrestler. Like how Ambrose really only works as well as he does, because he is great on the mic, with his quick humor and attitude, despite being just an average wrestler.
A cult leader type of guy certainly isn't hard for anyone to do, but Wyatt makes it work better than most could as seen in his promos. People in wrestling doing actual characters and doing them really well, isn't very common these days.
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Post by: doafan on May 02, 2017, 01:45:37 pm
Hearing what Wyatt ended up doing last night on Raw...Is Bray Wyatt like one of the worst pushed wrestlers in years? Like Reigns is bad, because he's being pushed as the next big thing, but people don't want him. Wyatt is mostly over still, he gets all these vignettes and promos and he's good at them, his entrance is great, but it's for naught.
Really want to believe that's because he is not the kind of wrestler that Vince wants to represent the company, he is not slim neither a person with tons of muscles in few words he is not Reigns, sorry but it's the damn reality, it's a fucking shame that the Eater of Worlds is not taking the Undertaker place cause he really deserve it and got everything to make it work.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 02, 2017, 01:54:34 pm
Hearing what Wyatt ended up doing last night on Raw...Is Bray Wyatt like one of the worst pushed wrestlers in years? Like Reigns is bad, because he's being pushed as the next big thing, but people don't want him. Wyatt is mostly over still, he gets all these vignettes and promos and he's good at them, his entrance is great, but it's for naught.
Really want to believe that's because he is not the kind of wrestler that Vince wants to represent the company, he is not slim neither a person with tons of muscles in few words he is not Reigns, sorry but it's the damn reality, it's a fucking shame that the Eater of Worlds is not taking the Undertaker place cause he really deserve it and got everything to make it work.
I'm not expecting him to be top of the company or anything, he doesn't need to represent the company, I just want his storylines to work and not constantly have him thrown under the bus. The only slightly good thing that happened to him was winning the belt, but that was barely two months and didn't have anything to do with his storyline.
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Post by: burningdoom on May 02, 2017, 02:01:57 pm
I like a good character that is actually an exaggerated version of themselves. Your Rocks and Austins. Nowadays you have guys like Kevin Owens, Dean Ambrose, and Austin Aries filling those rolls. And they do it well.
But yeah, I agree, there does need to be more characters in modern wrestling, nonetheless. And for that matter, I miss managers. A LOT of guys nowadays would do a lot better with a mouthpiece. And the managers were often some of the best characters in wrestling (Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, Scary Sherri, Mr. Fuji, etc.).
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Post by: doafan on May 02, 2017, 02:03:28 pm
I'm not expecting him to be top of the company or anything, he doesn't need to represent the company, I just want his storylines to work and not constantly have him thrown under the bus. The only slightly good thing that happened to him was winning the belt, but that was barely two months and didn't have anything to do with his storyline.
Maybe not a the top of the company but my point is that those chimps writers doesn't know what to do with him >:(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 02, 2017, 02:56:18 pm
I'm not expecting him to be top of the company or anything, he doesn't need to represent the company, I just want his storylines to work and not constantly have him thrown under the bus. The only slightly good thing that happened to him was winning the belt, but that was barely two months and didn't have anything to do with his storyline.
Maybe not a the top of the company but my point is that those chimps writers doesn't know what to do with him >:(
It's like they know what to do to a point, but then when it comes to what would be the end, they screw it up. Though the writers were bad with the House of Horrors match.
"We got this creepy ass house that we can go wild with and record it however we want, what do we do?"
"How about they bump around and just punch each other a bunch?"
"GENIUS!"
They should've been chucking each other through walls, against windows, smashing each other with furniture, going balls to the wall, and then they could come back to the arena. Such a waste.
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Post by: burningdoom on May 09, 2017, 03:03:08 pm
Man, WWE just loves to tease us fans, don't they?
First they sign Jim Ross back, but then tell us there are no plans for him to announce on a regular basis.
Now we find out J.R. will be the play-by-play guy for a weekly wrestling program in WWE...that only airs in the U.K.
I should've know that, but I don't have The Network. Been trying to cut bills, so I haven't had it since WrestleMania.
Ah, yeah I understand that. Well if you ever feel like getting it again, you'll have all the UK stuff just waiting there for a binge watch lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 15, 2017, 06:19:14 pm
DAMMIT! What seemed like a minor thing, could last months for Braun. No saying how much is kayfabe or legit, but it's being said he could be out for up to 6 months. Just when everything was getting great too! The Strowman stuff was actually getting me interested in keeping up with Raw more lol
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Post by: doafan on May 15, 2017, 07:23:58 pm
Got a copy of the of the latest two Raw shows but haven't been able to see them, for what I have read from the article it says that the was injured this past week, but how ?, damn it I have to make a free time dunno from where just to see at least this past RAW :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 15, 2017, 07:28:51 pm
Got a copy of the of the latest two Raw shows but haven't been able to see them, for what I have read from the article it says that the was injured this past week, but how ?, damn it I have to make a free time dunno from where just to see at least this past RAW :'(
Apparently this is something from the Europe shows they were doing, so I'm not entirely sure, but I believe it actually stemmed from the after show spot he did where he charges Reigns by an ambulance, smashing through the ambulance door. It's possible that this is more kayfabe than fake, that he'll maybe just be out for a month or two to help with a legit injury and they'll just say he really is a monster and came back quicker than ever, but I don't know. There has to be some legit element to all of this, because there's no good reason to cut his rising stardom short right now and I'm dropping interest in the live shows because of it as what they were doing with him was awesome and I'm still waiting for the Hardy's to "Break" to get back to Raw lol
*EDIT* More rumor talk is pointing to this issue being a work, but seemingly covering for the smaller issue, which will still keep him out for a month or two. Sucks he'll be out for at least a month or two. I hope they can recover his push, because it was just so good. Apparently it might be Reigns/Brock again for the belt in July and though Lesnar NEEDS to drop the belt...Uggh, Reigns getting it again would suck. Sure he'd lose it quick to Braun or someone else, I just don't want to have to go through that again lol
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Post by: doafan on May 16, 2017, 01:33:05 pm
More rumor talk is pointing to this issue being a work, but seemingly covering for the smaller issue, which will still keep him out for a month or two. Sucks he'll be out for at least a month or two. I hope they can recover his push, because it was just so good. Apparently it might be Reigns/Brock again for the belt in July and though Lesnar NEEDS to drop the belt...Uggh, Reigns getting it again would suck.
Wasn't able to saw yesterday's show but managed to watch the match between Roman vs. Balor, dunno why but me and my wife have the idea that Roman eventually might gonna turn Hell, he almost went nuts at his last match this and the way he attacked Strowman gave us that impression hope that we are wrong but am pretty sure that until Brawn came back the writers and Vince will gonna make him practically invincible and yes, he definitely would get the belt :-\
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Post by: burningdoom on May 16, 2017, 01:53:56 pm
Remember when there was a 30-day no compete rule on championships in the WWE? If the champion refused to compete for over 30 days, they were stripped of their championship.
In fact, WWE cited that not too long ago when they stripped Finn Balor of his Universal Championship after his injury.
...so what's going on with that and Lesnar?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 16, 2017, 03:09:03 pm
Remember when there was a 30-day no compete rule on championships in the WWE? If the champion refused to compete for over 30 days, they were stripped of their championship.
In fact, WWE cited that not too long ago when they stripped Finn Balor of his Universal Championship after his injury.
...so what's going on with that and Lesnar?
Brock Lesnar gets to do what he wants basically, which is why he really needs to lose the belt. I've gotten tired of his bullshit for awhile now and the whole Goldberg thing just made it so much worse.
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Post by: burningdoom on May 16, 2017, 03:40:10 pm
It's really hurting the title picture. It's a huge hole in Raw. The main-event scene should be about chasing that strap.
But at the same time, it is bringing more prestige to the IC title. Last night on Raw, it was kind of cool having that main-event intro to a IC match.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 16, 2017, 05:06:52 pm
It's really hurting the title picture. It's a huge hole in Raw. The main-event scene should be about chasing that strap.
But at the same time, it is bringing more prestige to the IC title. Last night on Raw, it was kind of cool having that main-event intro to a IC match.
True, but isn't it just Ambrose and Miz again? I feel like I remember that going on in Smackdown. Part Timers like Lesnar definitely should not have the belt though. Doesn't sound like he'll drop it till at least July, so another 2 months of nothing going on with the belt.
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Post by: doafan on May 16, 2017, 07:16:25 pm
True, but isn't it just Ambrose and Miz again? I feel like I remember that going on in Smackdown. Part Timers like Lesnar definitely should not have the belt though. Doesn't sound like he'll drop it till at least July, so another 2 months of nothing going on with the belt.
Was about to say that Sami deserves a chance for that title (in fact for any) but he is now part of SmackDown so that will no be longer possible but anyway we need a new IC champion cause Ambrose has been kinda lazy this past months but The Miz again ?, I mean come on they have a lot of wrestlers there that deserves a chance :'(
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Post by: burningdoom on May 16, 2017, 08:37:10 pm
I'm still a big Ambrose fan, have been since he debuted in WWE. So I'm all for him keeping the title.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 16, 2017, 10:01:58 pm
I'm still a big Ambrose fan, have been since he debuted in WWE. So I'm all for him keeping the title.
Oh I agree. He's not a particular great wrestler, but a ton of fun to watch character wise. It's just that I'd probably rather other people involved than resuming a similar fight they had on Smackdown.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 17, 2017, 06:02:04 pm
While not all doom and gloom, I like the talk from Matt Hardy about wanting to do something with Bray Wyatt as Broken Matt. That would be amazing and could be the first time in a long time that Bray has something to work with that makes sense and could be fun and a long running thing.
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Post by: doafan on May 17, 2017, 06:09:08 pm
Just wondering if Mahal is on steroids ?, yesterday it was very clear with those damn close ups that this dude have earned a freaking physique but that bacne at his chest doesn't came by itself ???
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 17, 2017, 06:25:01 pm
Just wondering if Mahal is on steroids ?, yesterday it was very clear with those damn close ups that this dude have earned a freaking physique but that bacne at his chest doesn't came by itself ???
Probably. He's freaking jacked.
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Post by: doafan on May 17, 2017, 06:28:05 pm
So what the hell has happened with the wellness policy ?, don't want to believe that the WWE is making an exception just with him or maybe they are just looking the other side :-\
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 17, 2017, 06:53:07 pm
So what the hell has happened with the wellness policy ?, don't want to believe that the WWE is making an exception just with him or maybe they are just looking the other side :-\
I have no idea how anything they do works there. Like Brock Lesnar actually got caught juicing in UFC, he's suspended right now, but is still in WWE, but I've heard of people who get caught in the wellness policy and suspended, but that could include more than just if you take roids. Like Jinder clearly is taking stuff, he's one of the most ripped guys on the roster right now, it's obvious, but maybe as long as he isn't caught, they don't care.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't matter to me. Not really impressed with him anyways. I kinda liked the heel idea, attacking peoples notions of diversity, as it is a heel move utilizing a good idea, but then he just has two randos doing his dirty work, which just makes him a generic heel. I think he's only getting a push due to them starting up the WWE market in India right now.
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Post by: burningdoom on May 18, 2017, 12:38:18 pm
Honesty, I don't understand why steroids are such a big deal in wrestling anyways. It's not like it's a "performance enhancer" for them, the matches are all pre-determined, it's a show. It's not the same as a football or baseball player getting an unfair advantage.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 21, 2017, 02:52:27 am
Not posting the play-by-play for the NXT Takeover, but overall good show as NXT usually does. That ending though. Man it was well done. I won't spoil it if anyone is watching it tomorrow or monday.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 21, 2017, 08:18:40 pm
Heel Ziggler called Nakamura "boy"...Ziggler is a year younger than Nakamura lol
Breeze and Fandango took a really stupid gimmick and have kinda made it work. Funny stuff lol Normally shenanigans in a championship is annoying, but this is fun I think.
Ellsworth really needs to go away. Even as a joke comedy jobber, he's just annoying. I barely even liked him when other people liked him lol Becky Lynch has a sick look right now. Large hair that is sorta mohawk-like with braids on the side. Back at Wrestlemania it was very Horizon Zero Dawn-like, but way cooler here as her own thing.
Don't really mind about Jinder getting the belt, other than I'm glad Orton is done with it. He's a boring champ, so maybe with Jinder as an actual character, they'll do something interesting now. He's also kinda over too. Just as many cheers as boos.
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Post by: doafan on May 22, 2017, 02:18:33 pm
Breeze and Fandango took a really stupid gimmick and have kinda made it work. Funny stuff lol Normally shenanigans in a championship is annoying, but this is fun I think.
Indeed it was funny but they also were pretty serious even for a moment got the idea that we might had a new tag team champs ;D
Can't believe that totally forgot about the event, if it wasn't because my wife ask me before went to bed if I wasn't to watch it would totally missed and that would be bad cause really liked almost all the matches, three of them took my full attention, 1.- glad that Sami didn't lost this time but had the feeling that this feud will gonna continue for a couple of weeks (if not months) 2.- the same will happen to KO and AJ because of that count out which by the way I didn't liked but guess that re match would be better and of course the main 3.- between Orton and Mahal, guess that Randy used extreme force (or maybe it was the biggest botch) against the Singh brothers he even made an expression when he attacked the second brother ...
... about the result of this match am glad that we have a new champ, for now just want to see if what Owens said at yesterday Talking Smack about the new champ is true.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 22, 2017, 03:01:10 pm
I don't think it was quite a botch on Randy's part, it was just that Randy was spinning a guy that was way outside his weight range and it spun him too much along with the guy jumping abit too high. Luckily he landed on the plastic cover and not on his head (Seems more shoulders, arms, and neck). Luckily the guy was up later, so he was mostly okay, but man it was scary to watch live lol
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Post by: doafan on May 22, 2017, 03:14:56 pm
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Post by: doafan on June 03, 2017, 12:33:47 pm
Didn't knew that tomorrow we are going to have the event Extreme Rules where being honest I haven't been seeing RAW lately but haven't missed any episode of SmackDown Live, after the Draft had the idea that the blue show was much better and after the latest changes without a doubt it has become better, was watching the red brand because of Strowman but since he is out for a while won't gonna watch it until he returns into action, anyway here is the list of the matches that we are going to have this Sunday, if I manage/convince my wife to make some boneless and some homemade pizza I'll watch some matches or at least the one for the Tag Team Championship ;D
Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Samoa Joe - Fatal 5-Way Extreme Rules match to determine the #1 contender for the WWE Universal Championship Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz (with Maryse) - Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship if Ambrose is disqualified, he will lose the title. Alexa Bliss vs. Bayley - Kendo Stick on a Pole match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship. The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro and Sheamus - Steel Cage tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship. Neville vs. Austin Aries - Submission match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship. Rich Swann and Sasha Banks vs. Noam Dar and Alicia Fox - Mixed tag team match.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 03, 2017, 02:06:19 pm
I'll be watching since I have my subscription left, but I'm not looking forward to much. The tag team match could be good and the 5 way has potential, but that is all I'm looking at really.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 04, 2017, 10:56:44 pm
Tag Team Match with Cesaro/Sheamus vs Hardy's was pretty solid, though I kinda hate when the match is just "escape", especially with the door which is an obvious problem of the match's design, but Jeff with his high flying is always welcomed and now maybe Hardy's can do something soon to be more than champions.
IC Belt of Ambrose vs Miz was their basic match, but the story aspect involving Dean trying not to get DQ'd and Miz trying to DQ Ambrose really elevated the match to be something more. Miz is a pretty top notch heel.
Fatal 5 Way was great. Lots of good spots, everyone looked strong, and a surprise win by Joe! He was honestly the last person I expected to win out of the 5 guys and it was well earned. I'm kinda curious if this means that his match will try to turn into a submission match like Brock did against Undertaker. In terms of story, Brock being raw power, you want to get him to the ground and try to take him out that way than purely doing hits, so it makes sense for them to do.
I don't know what they are doing with Neville and Aries anymore. It's been going on for awhile now, Aries has been taken out at 3 title shots now, and it just makes him look bad. One thing to keep Neville strong, he's a great dominate heel for that division, but this does nothing but continue to bury Aries. They put on good matches, but I thought for sure Aries would win this.
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Post by: doafan on June 08, 2017, 01:14:16 pm
Rich Swann and Sasha Banks vs. Noam Dar and Alicia Fox: Didn't saw it. Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz: Seriosuly a disqualification match in Xtreme Rules, what the hell were they thinking. Alexa Bliss vs. Bayley: Didn't saw it. The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro and Sheamus: Honestly started to watch this one but at some point was tired of it so decided to do other things, just came back to see the ending of this one. Neville vs. Austin Aries: Didn't saw it. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Samoa Joe : Totally wasn't expecting Samoa's victory, the match as expected took my full attention, loved the team work of Samoa/Bray by the way this past RAW got better when Heyman came into the ring, can't wait to see if Joe can beat the hell of Lesnar just hope that the writers don't fuck up the plan or the history cause they are making a good job with Joe ;D
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Post by: burningdoom on June 08, 2017, 02:44:22 pm
Honestly, I'm having trouble paying attention to wrestling lately.
While the talent on WWE is tremendous (I feel they have the best roster they've had since the Attitude Era), all the talent in the world can't help WWE's atrocious creative. The storyline and matches are still just far too predictable, and every episode feels the same. If I miss a Smackdown or Raw, it's not that big of deal because it's just business as usual at WWE and everything feels so similar.
I had such high hopes, too, with all this influx of fresh, hungry talent.
Frankly, WWE is boring lately.
On a side note, though, I LOVE that the real Goldust is back. I HATED what they did to his character over the years. And I've always loved the original incarnation of Goldust.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2017, 03:34:15 pm
Yeah I'm not too worried about watching the live shows lately outside of PPV's. Waiting for something to happen, like Strowman returning or Lesnar to drop the belt so that something can be done with it again. Or the Hardy's to break or something.
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Post by: doafan on June 08, 2017, 03:52:13 pm
or Lesnar to drop the belt so that something can be done with it again
He is going to lose it against Samoa Joe at Great Balls of Fire (LOL who was the asshole that came with this ridiculous name for an event), what ?, I can dream too.
Eventually this will happen but they can accelerate the process if they decide to pay the right amount of money to whoever is in charge of the TNA right now, want to believe that you are talking about the rights of Broken Matt and Brother Nero and not about that some of these poor two break any part of their bodies at the ring ;D
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Post by: doafan on June 16, 2017, 10:29:49 am
Still can't believe that we are going to have another event this next Sunday and am not going to miss this one, well at least am interested in three matches
Jinder Mahal vs. Randy Orton - Singles match for the WWE Championship: No matter what Jinder has to retain, with or without help he has to retain the belt. Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles vs. Baron Corbin vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Shinsuke Nakamura - Money in the Bank ladder match for a WWE Championship match contract: Sami or Nakamura, in that order has to win the contract. The Usos vs. The New Day: Tag team match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Natalya vs. Tamina vs. Carmella - Money in the Bank ladder match for a WWE SmackDown Women's Championship match contract Don't care who wins this one but really can't miss the mess that they Naomi vs. Lana: Singles match for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 16, 2017, 03:15:10 pm
Hopefully some good stuff from this one. Jinder definitely has to win, pushing Orton out of the championship picture for awhile. Definitely want Sami or Nakamura to win the MITB match. Also not really interested in who wins, maybe Becky, but hopefully a womens ladder match is good as I believe this is the first one. And then the other two are just "Yeah sure", even though I always enjoy The New Day.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 16, 2017, 03:41:46 pm
Have you guys seen what this shit-stain on the wrestling industry (Vince Russo) is up to, now?
This is his "public apology" to Eric Bischoff. Which is really nothing more than a pathetic, rambling attempt to make a jab at Bischoff through the internet becuase he's jealous that Bischoff still gets work from the WWE from time-to-time.
He did a similar "apology" to Jim Cornette recently for the same damn reason. Russo then challenged Cornette to a debate, which Cornette responded by challenging Russo to a fight.
If you get a chance, watch these. And then, I want to hear what you guys think about all of this.
Vince Russo Publically "Apologizes" to Eric Bischoff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duD_sm-wMjk
Vince Russo Publically "Apologizes" to Jim Cornette: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsq3wn9_X0
Cornette Responds to Vince Russo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HErBP9e6H9A
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 16, 2017, 04:05:20 pm
My knowledge isn't deep enough to really know what is going on, but isn't Russo widely considered to be one of the guys who screwed up a ton of things over his years in the industry and despite frequently being problematic, continued to get work for no damn good reason? He also just seems to be a general shitbag of an individual reading about some of his podcast talk. Not gonna pretend that any of the guys are angels, but just seems like Russo is trying to fling shit and see what sticks.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 16, 2017, 04:10:23 pm
Yes, Russo is largely responsible for the demise of WCW. Ratings tanked under his watch and his nonsensical storylines. He's the man that put the belt on David Arquette.
He was such a cancer to the industry that recently Dixie Carter (TNA) had to secretly pay Russo because if their network found out he was involved at all, they would have cancelled TNA. Which did happen, and they did get cancelled (forcing them to move to their new network).
And now he's just desperate for attention.
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Post by: doafan on June 16, 2017, 05:59:22 pm
recently Dixie Carter (TNA) had to secretly pay Russo because if their network found out he was involved at all, they would have cancelled TNA. Which did happen, and they did get cancelled (forcing them to move to their new network).
Well this is new for me, guess that I'll have to read a couple of articles just to know what a mess this cancer did to the TNA.
Yes and gotta love Cornette's reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPVuHJbbGp8
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 18, 2017, 08:18:02 pm
Hype Bros vs Colons - It's a nothing match, Hype Bros won because people like them more than the Colons lol
MITB Women's Ladder Match - I'm actually pretty excited for this as due to them never using women in matches with any serious gimmicks...ladders, tables, chairs, etc (That kendo stickmatch between Bliss and Bayley was bad)...so this should be fun as it gives them something more to do. I'm pulling for Becky in this one as she's always been abit of a favorite despite being used so poorly since coming to the main roster. Great that they are kicking off the show with this.
And Ellsworth bullshit won it for Carmella. Fuck this Ellsworth garbage. The first women's MITB match and it's won by a guy coming in to win it for the woman. God this is stupid. The crowd isn't having it either. This isn't legit heel heat, this is "That was a garbage ending" heat.
Uso's vs New Day - PLEASE SAVE THIS SHOW, NEW DAY! I'd like them to win, but please just be a good match. Poor botch with Big E and one of the Uso's lol Unfortunate, but it happens. Oh my god...Count out win for New Day, that doesn't net them the belts...Oh my god, this show...
Naomi vs Lana - Honestly, before, this was like a nothing match for me, but now I'm just hoping to get something out of this. Please let this be at least something. I don't care who wins, just give me a good, complete, match. Oh my god...I just realized that Carmella has the chance to cash in on this match with her bullshit win from before. Please no. And it happened...please don't be bullshit...Not a good match, but at least Carmella didn't actually cash-in, just teased. Lana doesn't seem to be particularly good.
Maria Kanellis? Looking it up, some former WWE wrestler from the Mid-2000 roster coming back? Nothing for me as I didn't watch WWE during that era.
Mihal vs Orton - These last two matches really need to be good, because so far it's been very disappointing even if there was good stuff in the Women's MITB match and New Day vs Uso. Screwy endings make for annoying times. Good start for this one. I didn't know this was Randy's hometown, so there's some good crowd hype going on and he seems more intense than usual. Personally felt he seemed to be just going on auto-pilot for awhile and wasn't anything more than a "RKO Outta Nowhere". And there we go, a win for Jinder. There was some good stuff going on and it had a proper end. A solid match.
Ascension vs Breezango - I know it was a comedy angle, but the reveal was the only other obvious tag team? lol Sure, whatever lol Hilariously, the only legit match so far on the main show in terms of an undeniable win lol
MITB Men's Match - Hoping for Nakamura or Zayn on this one, but I'm cool with most anyone getting it other than maybe Dolph. Should be good though. And there goes Nakamura with a run in from Corbin stomping him, likely taking him out of the match...Oh my god, this PPV...
Well this match turned good and got better, but man, Corbyn winning feels anti-climatic, but now I think at least we can look forward to Nakamura vs Styles matches lol I don't know the last PPV that felt this unsatisfying, even if there were good matches going on.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 19, 2017, 10:17:05 pm
Remembered that RAW was on, so I came back to the show in progress literally just as Strowman returned to the show, causing Reigns to lose a match and then get slammed and setup a match for Great Balls of Fire between them in an ambulance match lol I guess I needed something more to perk me up after last nights PPV.
And the hits keep on coming. They break up DIY and they've broken up Enzo and Cass. It's like WWE doesn't want us to be happy. When I see people quitting WWE because of the booking and writing, I can't blame them. When at any point have there been issues with them that this makes sense? They make it out that Cass has hated it since NXT, but come on, that's been years! This is such a weak reason with the lamest build up. I know they weren't really doing much with them, but like what now? They've built Enzo as a light weight that gets beat, but had Cass to back him up and Cass isn't anything on the mic, so that's where Enzo would fill in. They were the type of tag team that complimented each other really well. Sometimes with this company...
Also apparently Roman is just automatically #1 contender for Lesnar at Summerslam? Cause he can just do this? We know Joe isn't going to win it at Great Balls of Fire, so this is just gonna be a rematch of the Wrestlemania between them, but we won't have a Rollins save? Yeah, people would just love another Reigns championship go, because Lesnar has to lose it soon, but man I do not want Reigns to win lol
*EDIT* I hate that Enzo and Cass were broken up in such a poor way, but they did sell it incredibly well. I just hope they both aren't left squandered separated. As I read more, seems like Enzo could go the way of more of being a manager/valet, in the likes of Jimmy Hart, which would be cool since Enzo isn't exactly known for his top quality wrestling ability and it focus him onto what he does best, which is talk alot.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 20, 2017, 10:27:17 am
So Booker T is now a heel announcer? Or was he just a little salty on Raw this week?
BTW guys, if you're on Facebook, and want a drama-free wrestling group, I've got a small wrestling group I've ran for a couple years now. It started as just a group of guys that were in a comic group that were also wrestling fans, but it has grown a little bit. Still a pretty small group, though, at 180 members. A lot of us both keep up on WWE currently and are old-school fans. No trolls, and a friendly atmosphere. Feel free to join us:
Remembered that RAW was on, so I came back to the show in progress literally just as Strowman returned to the show
For some unknown reason decided to watch yesterday's show and my expression when I saw the ambulance was FUCK YEAH and am glad that they decided to continue with this feud.
Also apparently Roman is just automatically #1 contender for Lesnar at Summerslam? Cause he can just do this? We know Joe isn't going to win it at Great Balls of Fire, so this is just gonna be a rematch of the Wrestlemania between them, but we won't have a Rollins save? Yeah, people would just love another Reigns championship go, because Lesnar has to lose it soon, but man I do not want Reigns to win lol
Being honest this idea never come to my mind, mainly because really love the idea that Samoa can actually won the belt, I mean they are doing things pretty good with these two and without a doubt Joe will be a badass champ but what you think can also happen, if they decide to give Reigns another shoot for the belt they literally will throw everything to the trash can, really hope that you are wrong man.
I hate that Enzo and Cass were broken up in such a poor way, but they did sell it incredibly well. I just hope they both aren't left squandered separated.
Incredible ?, come on man they need to give Enzo ASAP an Oscar for his performance, his expression and that tear totally broke my heart but what really piss me of is that the writers decided to make Big Cass a Heel and not Roman, everybody hates Reigns and that's one of the reasons why they he needs to be part of the bad boys, it would sell even even more this way, dunno what the hell they are thinking but this rupture of the SWAFT team can work in so many different ways.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 20, 2017, 09:51:28 pm
And just like I thought they would do, they stripped Carmella of the briefcase and are redoing the MITB match next week. Dammit, McMahon. This offers no story value, this doesn't enhance any of the people involved, and all it does is cheat people who pay for the network, to have the actual outcome of the match happen on TV instead. This is why ratings suck for WWE right now, because people get annoyed with the bullshit. I don't even know if I'll watch Great Balls of Fire, because that name sucks and I just am losing interest. For every good thing, there's just as many bad things.
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Post by: doafan on June 28, 2017, 02:52:45 pm
Am just gonna leave these images here from yesterday's SmackDown Live :o
Yup. So WWE fucked up the first match...just so Carmella could keep it. The worst writing and I heard the response was very tepid. Every time I think the company is going in a better direction, we get crap like this. I wonder if Vince retiring would solve anything...
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Post by: doafan on June 28, 2017, 05:32:59 pm
Yup. So WWE fucked up the first match...just so Carmella could keep it. The worst writing and I heard the response was very tepid. Every time I think the company is going in a better direction, we get crap like this. I wonder if Vince retiring would solve anything...
Awkward silence ... anyway did you get a chance/managed to saw this past Raw, precisely the part of Samoa and Lesnar ? ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 28, 2017, 06:04:10 pm
Yup. So WWE fucked up the first match...just so Carmella could keep it. The worst writing and I heard the response was very tepid. Every time I think the company is going in a better direction, we get crap like this. I wonder if Vince retiring would solve anything...
Awkward silence ... anyway did you get a chance/managed to saw this past Raw, precisely the part of Samoa and Lesnar ? ;D
Nah, I skipped the shows this week, though I happened to catch Enzo & Big Cass on RAW. I still don't like the angle, but Enzo is so good, he makes it work. I don't know where he goes from here, but he's just a great character. I did see that bit on Samoa and Lesnar, I guess Lesnar really sold a choke lol Lately I've just been watching the clips of the live shows on youtube when they come up.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 04, 2017, 11:27:09 pm
Anyone using NJPW World to watch stuff? I subscribed once back at I think the beginning of the year to watch WrestleKingdom, but it was kind of a pain in the ass to quit it and I was just curious if it's any easier now. Really want to watch the G1 Special as it sounded awesome.
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Post by: doafan on July 09, 2017, 10:28:35 am
Not really but I do like to watch some of their matches days later when they became "available" and it's seems if the rumors are true that am gonna be looking for some matches in a near future, after Austin Aries leaved the WWE a lot of people where I do include myself expect to see this wrestler at NJPW, really hope that this can be true cause the guy didn't had the push he deserved, the one that got it an in a non live event was AJ Styles, the phenomenal won this past July 4 at SmackDown Live the Independence Day Battle Royal which gave him the right to go for the US belt that KO was holding at the Battleground event but the bastard won the belt this past Friday in an U.S. Title Match at Madison Square Garden, just wonder how the hell this victory is going to affect not only this next SmackDown Live show but also the event that we had scheduled for this July 23, damn it am more excited to see how the writers are going to fix this than the fact that tonight is the Great Balls of Fire Event and I practically don't give a shit about it, well at least am pretty sure that am not gonna miss the match between Samoa and Lesnar, I do expect a lot of this match so really hope that they don't disappoint me :'(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 09, 2017, 02:51:53 pm
Yeah it was really stupid for them to do it at a house show. I've read up on it and how it's good for business to try and boost the live shows, but I can't imagine it does that much and all it does to take something away from the people that watch on TV or the Network, which is where the majority lies. Oh well, it's not the worst thing I've seen them do lately lol
Still not sure if I want to watch Great Ball of Fire or not...still got a couple hours to figure that out I guess.
*EDIT* Eh, I'll watch it. Might be a couple good matches here and I get Battlgrounds coming up in the month.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 09, 2017, 09:22:55 pm
Rollins vs Wyatt - About what you'd expect. Perfectly reasonable match that they usually do.
Enzo vs Cass - No matter how this began or where it goes, Enzo is damn good at selling it all. Gave one hell of an impassioned speech at the start. Of course this was never going to be an actual match, Enzo was gonna get squashed, which is now I'm just unsure where it goes. Cass will go onto singles matches, but what is Enzo really gonna end up doing? To me, he's the more interesting part, so we'll see.
Hardy's vs Cesaro/Sheamus - I didn't know this was gonna be a 30 minute Iron Man match based on 3 falls I think (Or maybe most falls by the end?), a first for tag teams, and all guys involved are good, so this might be something memorable. Definitely was a good match, though there was an unfortunate botch where either the ref counted too fast or Cesaro came in too late to break up the pin and it was a legit three-count pin and people got pissed for abit when it didn't get counted. Still fun though.
Bliss vs Banks - This was a pretty good match lol I wasn't expecting too much, but lots of good spots and hilariously Bliss is apparently double jointed, so she was able to fake a busted arm as a distraction. Had me think it was real for a second lol
Ambrose vs Miz - It's the usual match you get with these guys. Miz just has a bunch of distractions and Ambrose puts up an alright fight.
Reigns vs Strowman - This match has potential to be great and I really hope it is. Strowman is legit one of the things that excites me in WWE right now. It's Strowman, it's Nakamura and the likely upcoming Nakamura vs Styles match, and maybe New Day and Hardy Boyz. Lots of brawling and overall pretty good battle of just smashing each other. I'm happy with this one. This took a turn I didn't expect either. Roman went very heel on him, though not in a way that'll end up mattering much for a character change, because of course Reigns won't be going heel.
Hawkins vs Slater - Purposefully spur of the moment match between them with the aftermath of Reigns and Strowman so they can fill time while dealing with the Ambulance. Like a 3 minute match lol Well it's a PPV payday for them at least. I'm wondering if they planned for this to take as long as it did. This Ambulance door won't open lol That went way better than I expected between Strowman and Reigns lol
Joe vs Lesnar - I was wondering how they were gonna pick things up after the monster match of Reigns and Strowman, but Joe charging Lesnar and bashing him before the match even starts is a great way to start it lol I knew it wasn't super likely that Joe would win, but I thought they were building up really well to a possible win for him with how he really just wrecked Brock for most of the match. Joe still looked real strong though, so it's not a bad loss for him. Lesnar just needs to drop the belt and move on. He's just a part timer that tosses out suplexes and F-5's. It's boring.
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Post by: doafan on July 23, 2017, 12:40:51 pm
We are going to have the Battleground event tonight, honestly am not that interested since I really don't believe that KO can recover his belt also cause am pretty sure that Sami will continue being a jobber same thing will happen to Rusev and Corbin but anyway here is the list:
Tye Dillinger vs. Aiden English - Singles match Jinder Mahal vs. Randy Orton - Punjabi Prison match for the WWE Championship The Usos vs. The New Day - Tag team match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship John Cena vs. Rusev - Flag match Charlotte Flair vs. Becky Lynch vs. Natalya vs. Tamina vs. Lana - Fatal 5-Way elimination match to determine the #1 contender for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship at SummerSlam Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Baron Corbin - Singles match AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens - Singles match for the WWE United States Championship Sami Zayn vs. Mike Kanellis - Singles match
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 23, 2017, 01:29:56 pm
It's a reasonable lineup, nothing too exciting though. The Punjabi Prison match lends itself to at least being different, so Orton won't be as standard as usual hopefully. Usos vs New Day could be good and I really hope New Day wins. Kinda good to see Rusev back, so maybe there is something there perhaps. And I'll of course watch a Nakamura match, just not sure what we'll get out of Corbin. Styles vs KO will of course be good, but yeah, he probably won't win it back.
*EDIT* Was kinda surprised that KO won the belt back, but it was a solid match. The ref being down went abit too long, but I like the combination of submissions leading to the count, even if it was a more subtle end.
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Post by: doafan on July 27, 2017, 10:16:19 am
Was kinda surprised that KO won the belt back, but it was a solid match. The ref being down went abit too long, but I like the combination of submissions leading to the count, even if it was a more subtle end.
Indeed it was a solid match, in my case it was the only match that I saw from the whole event (was pretty tired) and after seeing KO as the US champ for third time went to sleep, anyway we arrived yesterday from a trip with my family so didn't saw this past SmackDown show, did I missed something interesting ? ???
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 27, 2017, 05:19:30 pm
Was kinda surprised that KO won the belt back, but it was a solid match. The ref being down went abit too long, but I like the combination of submissions leading to the count, even if it was a more subtle end.
Indeed it was a solid match, in my case it was the only match that I saw from the whole event (was pretty tired) and after seeing KO as the US champ for third time went to sleep, anyway we arrived yesterday from a trip with my family so didn't saw this past SmackDown show, did I missed something interesting ? ???
KO already lost the belt after Jericho came back on Smackdown and got into a triple threat match with KO and Styles lol
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Post by: doafan on July 29, 2017, 02:10:36 pm
Thanks for not letting me know who won that match, honestly had the idea that since Jericho just came back into action he might have won the title, no, is not a belt, is a title that was Owens yelled to a fan who was asking him where it's belt was and the mothafucka replied that is not a belt is a title you dumbass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4bTpz86W8) anyway the match was really good and still can't believe that they are giving the US Championship more prestige than the WWE Championship also can't wait for the match between Nakamura and Cena.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 29, 2017, 04:19:49 pm
Yeah I'm interested to see what can come out of Nakamura vs Cena. Cena had some good matches with Styles and while his recent Rusev match wasn't very good, I think he gets kinda energized going up against these new guys.
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Post by: doafan on August 04, 2017, 01:04:50 pm
Yeah I'm interested to see what can come out of Nakamura vs Cena. Cena had some good matches with Styles and while his recent Rusev match wasn't very good, I think he gets kinda energized going up against these new guys.
Well he sure was energized as hell, they do started started SmackDown show pretty good with Kevin and Styles but they do ended the best possible way, the match kept me entertained not one time but two cause later that night I saw it again online even have to admit that when Cena was about to perform his second attitude adjustment to Nakamura had the idea that he might won the match but that reversal and that bizarre suplex that almost break Cena's neck was hilarious, am pretty sure that it was a mistake but a good one cause it totally sold out the result of the match ;D
Totally agree but it was a good match, if you are fan of Nakamura as I am you definitely have to see this one ;)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 20, 2017, 05:37:38 am
Takeover Brooklyn 3 was good as expected. NXT almost always brings it. Didn't quite have as many must watch folks for me and even Asuka is just alright as I've seen her and Ember fight enough already though good spots as usual.
Summerslam is a big one this time, just in terms of match amount.
Styles vs Owens will of course be solid (As long as ending doesn't get screwed up like last time) as they are both great guys.
Nakamura vs Mahal will be...interesting. I don't think Nakamura will win, I got a feeling they want Mahal to keep it abit longer, but you never know, dreams can happen lol
The 4 Way for the Universal championship should hopefully be awesome as Lesnar won't be able to do his usual routine, which is boring, Strowman is here, which is awesome, Roman the worker is enough, and Joe is good, so unless things get fucked up, this should really be the highlight.
A number of others have potential to be good I hope, but there are a ton. 13 matches in total with the kickoff.
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Post by: doafan on August 20, 2017, 01:46:36 pm
Hell I don't gonna watch all the matches, there is to much wrestling to see these days but at least am not gonna miss three of them ;)
Akira Tozawa vs. Neville - Singles match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship The New Day vs. The Usos - Tag team match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship The Hardy Boyz and Jason Jordan vs. The Miz and The Miztourage - Six-man tag team match Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe vs. Braun Strowman - Fatal 4-Way match for the WWE Universal Championship Naomi vs. Natalya - Singles match for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship Alexa Bliss vs. Sasha Banks - Singles match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship Randy Orton vs. Rusev - Singles match Jinder Mahal vs. Shinsuke Nakamura - Singles match for the WWE Championship Big Show vs. Big Cass - Singles match Finn Bálor vs. Bray Wyatt - Singles match John Cena vs. Baron Corbin - Singles match AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens - Singles match for the WWE United States Championship Cesaro and Sheamus vs. Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins - Tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 20, 2017, 08:06:27 pm
Just what the fuck is the point in anything with Enzo anymore? Everything I've seen with him is him just getting stomped. Why have this big cage thing and set up this awesome escape spot, just to have him get kicked once and downed and then have him stomp Big Show right after? It's completely anti-climatic. Oh this will put over Cass so well. He stomped the guy he's been stomping since the split and Big Show was heavily hurt, so it was a guarantee he'd lose. Oh yeah, Cass is ready for the main event scene. Enzo is a fun character, but I just don't see the point anymore.
Urggh, hopefully Sasha isn't actually hurt. Didn't like how she was selling her shoulder at the end.
I didn't end up watching everything as I wanted to watch Game of Thrones at a certain point, but I skimmed through most of it. I think the only one I didn't watch was Cesaro/Sheamus vs Ambrose/Rollins. I did manage to watch the Fatal 4 Way and while it didn't end like I wanted, it still was pretty great. Just lots of big guy brawling and Strowman continues to be the best. Most of the show was pretty watchable outside of a few pointless matches.
*EDIT* I had read before that Enzo has tons of backstage heat, not really liked by many, but I guess it's pretty bad and it could be that the fans alone are the only thing keeping him around, which does explain why he is getting buried so bad. I hate it because he's one of the few that does really well on the microphone I feel and the crowd is with him on practically anything. Feel bad for Cass though as he just injured himself on RAW last night and will probably be out for awhile. Asuka also got injured, but against Moon at Takeover which will put her out for a month or two.
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Post by: doafan on August 22, 2017, 10:21:57 am
Totally missed the event but my wife spoiled me the results later that night now I really don't know if want to see it ???
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Post by: burningdoom on August 22, 2017, 12:50:52 pm
I heard people raving that the A.J. Styles vs. Kevin Owens match was match of the year material. I didn't see it myself, but I'm not surprised from these two.
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Post by: doafan on August 22, 2017, 01:01:09 pm
Thanks, will gonna make some free time tonight just to watch this one but only because is my man KO 8)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 22, 2017, 05:36:27 pm
I heard people raving that the A.J. Styles vs. Kevin Owens match was match of the year material. I didn't see it myself, but I'm not surprised from these two.
I only saw parts of it, but didn't think it was anything more than their usual matches in particular. I mean, their usual matches are always pretty solid, but I never really felt like this match became anything more other than them interacting with Shane every so often.
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Post by: doafan on August 23, 2017, 11:18:13 am
I only saw parts of it, but didn't think it was anything more than their usual matches in particular. I mean, their usual matches are always pretty solid, but I never really felt like this match became anything more other than them interacting with Shane every so often.
Managed to watch it and the one from yesterdays SmackDown show, they were pretty solid an kept me entertained the full match but still can't say that it can be consider of year material, at least it wasn't as good as the one that Kevin Steen had with Christopher Daniels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a-u8Ug5Hvw) in the past, this match is pretty intense by the way am glad that Shelton Benjamin have finally arrived and that he will be part of SmackDown and not RAW, I don't watch the red brand anymore ;)
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Post by: burningdoom on August 23, 2017, 11:32:55 am
About damn time! How long will it be now before Roode gets the gold? It's just a matter of time...
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Post by: doafan on September 25, 2017, 12:21:36 pm
After playing on the 3DS all weekend decided to rest a little so insted I saw the three last matches of No Mercy where don't want to belive that Cena has just passed the torch to Reignsafter the match which by the eay was if not that good it kept me and my wife entertained all the time, was expecting Lesnar vs. Strowman to be the one to steal the show, no, don't the wrong idea, Strowman did kicked Lesnar's butt almost all the time but we all knew that he won't gonna won the belt, can't believe that at this point the Monster haven't one any belt, the one that did steal the show was the one between Neville vs. Nezo for the Cruiserweight Championship, the rest ... well everybody needs to see this match for themselves ;D
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on September 25, 2017, 06:22:06 pm
I ended up skipping the show to play a game with friends, so I only watched Miz vs Jordan which went about how I expected. What I didn't expect to hear was Lesnar stomping Strowman with a single F-5. Reigns went through like 3 of them back at Wrestlemania, but Strowman, who survived being smashed in an ambulance, and destroyed the ring with Big Show, can't take more than one F-5? This is the kind of stuff that causes people to stop watching WWE, because this is the absolute worst writing.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on September 26, 2017, 04:34:52 pm
I just hope that the feud between KO and Shane got better than the one between Strowman and Lesnar, I mean Owens even beated Vince a couple of weeks ago and as far as I remember Stone was one of thos lucky guys that were able to do it before, the fat dude is giving a hell of a push and of course am expecting a lot from him 8)
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Post by: burningdoom on October 02, 2017, 02:39:56 pm
It's not just Kevin Owens vs. Shane that is good right now. WWE is stepping up a lot of storylines. They are mixing reality in with the storylines, like they did in the Attitude Era, and it's making for some very entertaining stuff.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on October 07, 2017, 02:49:37 pm
They are mixing reality in with the storylines, like they did in the Attitude Era, and it's making for some very entertaining stuff.
That's what I love the most anyway am expecting great things from Hell in a Cell which of course is tomorrow also want to see if we are going to have Kevin's big butt again at Raw, the list of the official matches that have been announced are the following and since won't gonna be in front of a computer tomorrow am gonna leave also my thoughs/comments about each one of the matches:
Chad Gable and Shelton Benjamin vs. The Hype Bros: Do I really have to say who is gonna win this one ? also The Hype Bros aren't going to be a team no more. Shane McMahon vs. Kevin Owens: Fuck yeah Owens is gonna throw himself from the Cell just to made his point that he his against the Mcmahon family. Jinder Mahal vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: Jinder is going to retain don't get me wrong but we are not ready to see Nakamura as the champ. The New Day vs. The Usos: Have been reading/watching some news telling that some of the members of the New Day are injured so I do expect The Usos to win this one. Natalya vs. Charlotte Flair: without a doubt Natalya is gonna retain the title. AJ Styles vs. Baron Corbin: Styles is gonna retain, got the idea that the title will be for Tye Dillinger. Bobby Roode vs. Dolph Ziggler: Don't give a shit about this one, really don't like the "mew character" that Ziggler has. Randy Orton vs. Rusev: Would love to see Rusev winning this one, still remember when Mahal was his partner and know he's the champ.
And no Sami again, serioulsy WWE what the fuck, damn it.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 08, 2017, 08:33:40 pm
Gablejamin vs Hype Bros - It was a thing.
New Day vs Usos - This was a great way to actually kick off the show proper. Lots of good spots and probably the toughest I've seen the New Day in awhile. Just a great match.
Rusev vs Orton - I really wish they could do more with Rusev beyond "I'm foreign! Boo me!" I think he's a good wrestler and he's looking great right now, but he's just been floundering since coming from back injury. And Orton is here I guess. Haven't really care about anything Orton has done since...Like two Wrestlemania's ago? Three? That cool match with Seth Rollins. He's fine, he's just nothing character wise. It's all just RKO, nothing more. He's like Lesnar who is nothing but Suplex's and F5's, though Orton is better to me than Lesnar. The match was fine, pretty standard stuff for both.
Corbin vs Styles vs Dillinger - Did Corbin get a new intro? Cool song. Kinda curious who will come out of this one with the belt. Styles will be Styles no matter what. Win or Lose, he'll be fine. Corbin has been on the downslope since losing the MITB case, and I don't think Corbin gets anything out of this even with a win. This could be great for Dillinger and I actually kinda hope he wins. This match was actually overall fine. Corbin can fine at wrestling, he's just never been an interesting character, which leaves me uninterested, but Dillinger and Styles had some fun spots. An amazing almost accidental pin by Dillinger in this that made me laugh. Good stuff.
Charlotte vs Natalya - I know Charlotte can have better matches, but this was just kind of a slow one. Mostly just got bored.
Mahal vs Nakamura - I could care less about Mahal now, but his floor display is really cool looking lol I want Nakamura to win, but I know it's not happening. They got a big India tour coming up and they are gonna have Mahal at the lead as champion. This really just seems like a waste of time for Nakamura. Maybe with Styles dropping the belt, him and Nakamura could have some sweet matches.
Roode vs Ziggler - Haven't been watching the live shows, but been seeing the bits of Zigglers new character thing of mocking what he thinks are popular wrestlers because of flashy entrances, and him being the best pure wrestler. I think the idea works, but the problem is that I don't see this lasting for too long and just becomes yet another thing Ziggler tries to get over with. Abgain, it was fine, but I'm not getting much out of this.
Owens vs McMahon - I've only been generally following the shenanigans for this one, but I'm curious where this take things story wise. I'm hearing that Owens could use this as a reason to head back to RAW, I'm not sure, but it's Owens, so it's gonna be good and Shane can usually offer something interesting, though you want to wonder what crazy thing he'll jump off of. I can't imagine he's doing the top of the cage for a normal PPV lol
Owens is going all out here. As intense as the New Day/Uso match. This match is ridiculous, it's terrifying watching them fight on top for so long...Oh man, it's happening, the thing is happening. Ridiculous match with huge story potential.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on October 09, 2017, 01:39:20 pm
I was expecting to see Kevin jumping of the cage over Shane damn I even was expecting to see Shane going through the cell into the ring just like The Undertaker did with Mankind years ago but damn never expected what Sami has done, can't fucking wait to see what will happen next Tuesday, Owens as a face would be awesome but Sami as a Heel never came into my mind, the fuck this is brilliant :o
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 20, 2017, 05:18:54 pm
TLC is gonna be a weird, but hopefully wild show this week. There's been a big meningitis issue at WWE lately, with more than a few missing shows. It's gotten so bad, that Reigns is getting pulled and replaced with...THE RETURN OF KURT ANGLE?! WHAT?! Also with Bray out, that means Balor is getting a new opponent, who is...AJ STYLES?! WHAT?! I'm still confused on the point of the Shield battle for Miz, Kane, Strowman, Cesaro, and Sheamus, it's a weird 5 on 3 fight, with maybe someone else coming in? I'm all in for Kurt though.
We are also getting the RAW debut of Asuka, so that's at least 3 matches I really want to see.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on October 21, 2017, 09:19:24 am
For me this has become quite interesting, not only because I really want to know how the hell the writters are going to fix this mess also don't have to say that the match between Balor and Styles is gonna be pretty good neither that I have never expected to see Angle with the Shield, honestly I wasn't interesed in this PPV but now it has all my attention ;D
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 21, 2017, 03:51:59 pm
I feel there's a chance that Kurt Angle might not wrestle, because it's such a kind of throwaway thing for them to with him and not something they built, as cool as it sounds, and it would be wasted in a match where he'll likely get stomped. Maybe there will be shenanigans, or a surprise save, because they kinda have to have a save with it being 3 on 5 and one of which is Strowman. Maybe they can spin this as a way to get Kurt into some actual matches against someone.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on October 22, 2017, 11:06:59 pm
I was about 60% right about Kurt not wrestling in this lol
Also, maybe I'm just forgetting past TLC shows, but did the other ones have no actual TLC outside of one match? Why have a gimmick show if there's only one match with the shows namesake? It wasn't till the main event that I realized there was nothing going on with the actual TLC.
Other than that, this show was mostly good. If anything, it was consistent as there really wasn't a bad match outside of maybe Banks vs Fox being kinda boring, along with Elias vs Jordan. Styles vs Balor was real solid, Asuka vs Emma was the squash that was expected, but it's good to see Asuka on the main show. Everything else was fine.
The Shield vs Miz and Gang was good here and there, but the pacing wasn't great. More than a few points where it felt like the show came to a crawl, but there was one part later on that I sorta love it simply on the idea and look of it alone. I'm kinda wondering if not having Reigns here caused them to kinda rush to choreograph a different show to some degree. Overall, I had some fun with it, even if it had some issues.
Braun Strowman continues to be the best though.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on October 24, 2017, 02:43:57 pm
Can't wait to see tonight's SmackDown am pretty sure that what happened yesterday the team RAW is going to make a visit to Shane also want to know who the hell will KO and Sami going to fight, seriously hope that this two can became the next tag team champions, not for Owen but for Sami, the dude really needs to carry a belt or a championship :'(
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on October 25, 2017, 02:01:07 pm
Well, Ryder had a good time at the Raw Invasion:
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2zrgrvc.jpg)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on October 31, 2017, 12:27:36 pm
Natalia's face totally sold me her "new finishing move" ;D
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 05, 2017, 07:00:57 pm
We mostly talk about WWE here, but I love Wrestle Kingdom over in Japan every year and this year, the main event is Chris Jericho vs Kenny Omega. Normally Jericho is fine in what he does, but it'll be interesting to see Jericho in a vastly different dynamic as Wrestle Kingdom feels so much different compared to anything that happens in WWE. Can't wait for this show.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on November 06, 2017, 12:07:00 pm
We mostly talk about WWE here, but I love Wrestle Kingdom over in Japan every year and this year, the main event is Chris Jericho vs Kenny Omega. Normally Jericho is fine in what he does, but it'll be interesting to see Jericho in a vastly different dynamic as Wrestle Kingdom feels so much different compared to anything that happens in WWE. Can't wait for this show.
That should be interesting and since I really don't know that much about Wrestle Kingdom when it will be aired ?, don't want to miss it 8)
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 06, 2017, 01:17:25 pm
We mostly talk about WWE here, but I love Wrestle Kingdom over in Japan every year and this year, the main event is Chris Jericho vs Kenny Omega. Normally Jericho is fine in what he does, but it'll be interesting to see Jericho in a vastly different dynamic as Wrestle Kingdom feels so much different compared to anything that happens in WWE. Can't wait for this show.
That should be interesting and since I really don't know that much about Wrestle Kingdom when it will be aired ?, don't want to miss it 8)
I think it's streamed on NJPW's own network and it's on January 4th.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on November 06, 2017, 01:25:05 pm
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: doafan on November 14, 2017, 01:22:43 pm
Survivor Series is this next Sunday and it seems that Team Raw is going with everything, Triple H is taking the place of Jason Jordan since this last got injured against Wyatt, hope that we can have a good feud between the dude with the biggest nose at the industry with Shane (for all the mess with the Under Siege event) also the Shield will face The New Day which if am not wrong this will be the first time that these two will compete against each other, Bayley has been declared the last woman to be part of the female team, honestly am kinda sad of this cause I was really expecting to see the return of Paige at this event and most important got the idea that Owens and Zayn which are not included in any match will bretaye team Smackdown and become the newest members of the Raw roster, have my doubts about the incident where both wrestlers were sent home from the United Kingdom tour after what happened at the last SmackDown show, wonder what changes will happen tonight at the blue show.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 18, 2017, 09:48:38 am
NXT: WarGames is tonight with Survivor Series tomorrow. Gonna be weird watching NXT a little bit as I haven't watched anything from it for quite awhile. Not as many people I know even in the match in particular as most of my favorites have already gone to the main show such as Nakamura, Roode, and Asuka. Other guys I like and know aren't even on the show this time, but the big team main event sounds pretty dope though as it's a return of an old cage setup, with two rings and the teams of three entering one at a time.
Kassius Ohno vs Lars Sullivan - This was good enough as essentially a big man match. Kassius reminds me alot of like a better moving Big Cass with his moves, while Lars reminds me of like the bigger Ascension guy if he was in much better shape. They are really pushing him as this unstoppable big guy. A less intimidating Braun Strowman basically. Nothing amazing, but some of those seemed pretty legit.
Velveteen Dream vs Aleister Black - Sometimes I love stark contrast matches in terms of characters and this one is very much that. Didn't know they had a wrestler of this type, the overly stylish, effeminate, Prince, type. Don't know if he can wrestle, but he's got the character down. This is the weirdest best match I've seen in a long time. Lots of holds and character based mindgames and both are so over. This match was great.
Ended up missing most of the women's match, but I think it was a good choice for the winner.
McIntyre vs Almas - This match had some pretty good some spots and some very inventive interference from Selena.
WarGames - This is a pretty dope looking setup, based on an idea originally made up by Dusty Rhodes, it's a two ring setup in a cage, just with the roof removed so they can do air moves. This could be pretty awesome I hope. Or it'll be a mess, but probably still fun lol What a twist, it was awesome AND a mess! I love it! lol Ah man, that one Sanity tore himself open pretty bad. He was off camera for awhile, but you could just see the blood pool. Crazy match.
NXT once again does an amazing job.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on November 19, 2017, 08:11:12 pm
I feel like the women's team match at Survivor was just done to put over Asuka more, which I'm not 100% against, but man it had a lot of slop going on and was another instance of WWE burying Becky Lynch which is so unfortunate. Everything else has just been alright so far. Mostly just skimmed Miz vs Corbin and the tag team championship as there isn't much interest for me right now. Not really expecting much from Brock vs AJ or the women's championship, so hopefully the men's team match is good.
Lesnar vs Styles was about what I expected, which was Lesnar throwing Styles around most of the match with bouts of Styles getting over. Styles was still good though, but man...I hate that Lesnar still has the belt. Guaranteed he keeps it till Wrestlemania and we'll get something awful like Reigns vs Lesnar again.
If there is anything I could be happy for tonight, is that Strowman continues to be the best thing ever in WWE. The final Raw vs Smackdown match was overall good, other than I hated how much of a squash it was. Didn't help that the feed wasn't working right so I missed all of the interaction between Balor and Nakamura, even if it was likely short.
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: burningdoom on November 20, 2017, 02:07:46 pm
Caught a re-run of this, luckily (missed it the first time around).
Really good documentary. It goes more into his personal life behind the scenes than his wrestling, but it does go a little into the wrestling side of things, too.
Well worth watching if you're a fan. Very well done. However, there really isn't much here that you wouldn't have already gotten out of the WWE documentary.
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Post by: droaa on December 03, 2017, 07:09:23 pm
Caught a re-run of this, luckily (missed it the first time around).
Really good documentary. It goes more into his personal life behind the scenes than his wrestling, but it does go a little into the wrestling side of things, too.
Well worth watching if you're a fan. Very well done. However, there really isn't much here that you wouldn't have already gotten out of the WWE documentary.
Which reminds me they just recently released the trailer for the Andre The Giant documentary that HBO is doing. Wonder how that will turn out especially since WWE hasnt really done one themselves to my knowledge aside from that one VHS they had of him that then got converted into a DVD release.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 05, 2017, 06:10:11 pm
With Matt Hardy "Woken", I might have to start watching RAW again lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blgS56pESPk
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Post by: ignition365 on December 06, 2017, 08:01:03 am
With Matt Hardy "Woken", I might have to start watching RAW again lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blgS56pESPk
Haven't honestly watched Raw since the whole Matt/Lita/Edge thing... I might consider watching again assuming they don't bury Matt.
I have this feeling they are just using the Woken Matt thing to build Wyatt, and once Wyatt is properly built they will bury Matt again.
I don't see why they would do that. Wyatt will get a boost, he'll lose the overall battle, and move on to someone else. Been like that for the past few years I've been watching. I don't think there's anywhere for Wyatt to go, but there's potential to elevate both here and Matt is way more over and should do well for awhile.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 06, 2017, 04:05:45 pm
Isn't it funny how everyone is a Broken Hardy fan, yet no one was watching TNA when he was doing it? That's when TNA was about to go under (again).
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 06, 2017, 04:23:48 pm
Isn't it funny how everyone is a Broken Hardy fan, yet no one was watching TNA when he was doing it? That's when TNA was about to go under (again).
Yeah, I've only seen clips of his TNA time because I never watched TNA. I find it really amusing, and it's basically what Wyatt is doing, but with an absurd twist to it that feels like he's channeling Ultimate Warrior at times, just with less yelling. I've been interested in it from a fun character point of view and really hope WWE embrace it. We don't need him to turn into another Wyatt, where he has these great nonsensical promos, but most of the time he's just getting his ass kicked.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 06, 2017, 04:42:11 pm
I thought it was hilarious how Wyatt was trying his best to be scary, and Matt Hardy kept giggling back at him. I was literally laughing out loud. And my wife is all like, "What in the hell are you watching? What's wrong with you?"
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 06, 2017, 05:57:44 pm
I thought it was hilarious how Wyatt was trying his best to be scary, and Matt Hardy kept giggling back at him. I was literally laughing out loud. And my wife is all like, "What in the hell are you watching? What's wrong with you?"
I want to see them have an in person promo together. Two great characters just trying to get one over the other.
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Post by: ignition365 on December 07, 2017, 08:42:21 am
Isn't it funny how everyone is a Broken Hardy fan, yet no one was watching TNA when he was doing it? That's when TNA was about to go under (again).
I've only seen 2 Broken Hardy promos, and while they are interesting, I wouldn't call myself a fan of the character. I've always been a fan of Matt Hardy and I'm glad he found prominence with TNA, but I've never paid much attention to TNA.
With Matt Hardy "Woken", I might have to start watching RAW again lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blgS56pESPk
Haven't honestly watched Raw since the whole Matt/Lita/Edge thing... I might consider watching again assuming they don't bury Matt.
I have this feeling they are just using the Woken Matt thing to build Wyatt, and once Wyatt is properly built they will bury Matt again.
I don't see why they would do that. Wyatt will get a boost, he'll lose the overall battle, and move on to someone else. Been like that for the past few years I've been watching. I don't think there's anywhere for Wyatt to go, but there's potential to elevate both here and Matt is way more over and should do well for awhile.
WWE has a habit of screwing over Matt Hardy, treating him like he's only useful when he's with Jeff. He did well with ECW brand before he left for TNA again. I enjoyed his Matt Hardy V2 character, which I almost feel is a predecessor to the Broken Hardy persona. And as far as I recall, he, historically, hasn't been great on the mic, but he does absolutely well in the ring. WWE has a habit of screwing any good character just to put over someone like Reigns or John Cena.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 07, 2017, 06:10:58 pm
WWE has a habit of screwing over Matt Hardy, treating him like he's only useful when he's with Jeff. He did well with ECW brand before he left for TNA again. I enjoyed his Matt Hardy V2 character, which I almost feel is a predecessor to the Broken Hardy persona. And as far as I recall, he, historically, hasn't been great on the mic, but he does absolutely well in the ring. WWE has a habit of screwing any good character just to put over someone like Reigns or John Cena.
Well we just gotta make sure that Matt stays away from Reigns, maybe hovering more around the top of the mid card, and he'll be okay lol I don't need him battling Lesnar for the Universal belt or anything (Though I imagine him and Heyman could have some pretty interesting promos). But the potential for Balor, Wyatt, down the road with The New Day, The Miz, for those with good characters or ideas about them that could make for good interactions, because Matt is a fine wrestler, nothing amazing these days, but consistent that I've seen with him returning, it's the absurdity that I understand about "Woken" Matt which will make things fun.
Because honestly, it doesn't really feel like there are a lot of good "characters" in WWE these days. There's a couple for sure, but like proper characters on the level of Wyatt or now Matt, there's only a couple really good ones.
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Post by: burningdoom on December 07, 2017, 06:18:12 pm
^ I'm perfectly fine with that. WWE needs less characters, and less scripts. They need more off the cuff promos and guys being allowed to be creative on their own. They need that opportunity to try to one-up each other. That's what made the Attitude Era so special.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on December 22, 2017, 12:52:29 am
This is technically wrestling related, but apparently it looks like Vince is looking to reboot his failed football league, the XFL. It was a complete disaster the first time and I'm not sure I see how it becomes a thing for him. At least he'd know what to do right this time, but I can't imagine this works out.
He wants to package it as content to sell to content-hungry digital streaming services.
For sure. That's clearly the only avenue for it, especially if he can keep more control over it rather than through a tv network deal. I personally don't care as I don't watch sports at all, it's just interesting to see Vince making what is likely another poor business decision. What's next? Bring back the World Bodybuilding Federation?
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Post by: burningdoom on December 22, 2017, 12:59:19 pm
He wants to package it as content to sell to content-hungry digital streaming services.
For sure. That's clearly the only avenue for it, especially if he can keep more control over it rather than through a tv network deal. I personally don't care as I don't watch sports at all, it's just interesting to see Vince making what is likely another poor business decision. What's next? Bring back the World Bodybuilding Federation?
I think he'll have no problem selling this time around since freaking everyone is going streaming.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 05, 2018, 01:50:09 am
And once again Wrestle Kingdom turns out a fantastic show. Not a bad match on the card and the only one that could be said to be weak, was the rumble, which is just for a bit of fun, and is on the pre-show. The Fatal Four Way was impressive with only one slight botch and Kenny Omega vs Chris Jericho was one of Jericho's best matches I've seen in awhile.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 24, 2018, 03:47:05 am
One of my favorite match types, the Rumble is coming up. Always enjoy it, as while you rarely get much serious wrestling going on, it's usually entertaining for the surprise entrants and shenanigans that go on. The women's side is also getting their first Rumble ever, so that could be something fun. Not sure who I'm expecting to win this, but hopefully something interesting happens. Worried we'll get another Reigns win or something lame like that, but lets hope not.
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Post by: doafan on January 28, 2018, 02:25:18 pm
Royal Rumble is almost here and certanly am only interestd in one match ...
AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn Handicap match for the WWE Championship
... am just wondering if they will give Sami an opportunity for the belt, after all he defeated the phenomenal last Tuesday about of the rest of the matches I really don't care, heard that it will be an six hours event and honestly have been thinking months ago that we got tons of wrestling these days >:(
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 28, 2018, 02:30:56 pm
I'm interested in the two Royal Rumbles, for hopefully something interesting coming out of a Lesnar match for the championship, though I expect him to win and to be uninteresting outside of Strowman, and Styles vs Zayne and KO should be fun.
*EDIT* Oh that Royal Rumble winner. I was not expecting it, though it makes more sense now, knowing that he could choose a champion to go after. I had automatically assumed it would be Reigns, because it's clear they are gonna push Reigns for the belt at Wrestlemania against Lesnar, but didn't realize that we could get that Nakamura vs Styles match at Wrestlemania instead, which will be so much better. This made the night for me. Also that dope Rey Mysterio appearance was welcomed.
Strowman continues to have the best push I've seen in recent years. He PUNCHED the metal chair. Everything they do with him is so over the top, and yeah, stuff like lifting the Semi on his side is ridiculous, but it's part of the fun lol He sells being this big monster so well. I'm absolutely expecting a Lesnar win, but he makes this match fun. Lesnar is still an incredibly unfun guy to watch, I don't think I've liked a match of his since...His final Undertaker stuff maybe? Mostly because they were doing submissions and strikes too and it wasn't all just suplexes and F5's.
Kairi Sane, yet another reason I love Japanese wrestlers, for their unique style. Nakamura, Asuka, just awesome. They might not have the promos skills here in the USA, but they are such uniquely fun personalities and both Kairi and Asuka could have some fun matches in the future. I actually missed her NXT debut, but fun to see her here.
OH JESUS CHRIST. Vicki Guerrero. Thank god I didn't have the volume that loud lol
The Women's Royal Rumble was fairly fun. About on the level I expected with some entertaining guest spots, ignoring the screeching horror of Vicki Guerrero. I actually was sorta expecting Asuka winning, but I just realized, that both Nakamura and Asuka won their respective Rumbles. Two favorites of mine for sure.
I forgot that there were Ronda Rousey rumors. Weird show up at the end...also totally borrowing Rowdy Roddy Pipers style for some reason...and Asuka never picked her championship. I guess that maybe on Raw, Asuka will pick a belt to go after and Ronda will try for the other? Seems like it would've been better to have her show up on Raw first instead.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 29, 2018, 02:09:02 am
The Women's Royal Rumble stole the show.
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Post by: burningdoom on January 29, 2018, 11:51:07 am
Great Rumble. The Women's Rumble stole the show. They brought in everyone short of Sable. Beth Phoenix slamming Nia Jax was cool. Stroman/Lesnar was good, too, but dang did they make Kane look bad. Loved how Slater kept getting beat over and over again on his way to the ring, funny. And Mysterio was a great surprise.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 24, 2018, 06:36:57 pm
Kinda funny watching a Top 10 for Elimination pod breaking spots and how in the past like 10 years, they have to try to sell that these flimsy plexiglass sheets are like death to them. "BY GOD! THAT SHEET OF PLASTIC THAT COULD BE KNOCKED DOWN BY A LIGHT BREEZE HAS BROKEN HIM IN HALF!" It use to actually break back when Goldberg was last around, so it actually can pretend it's actually something. I wonder if it was still kinda dangerous to have around and that's why they changed. Hoping for some fun at Elimination Chamber tomorrow, I love gimmick stuff like this, Royal Rumble, and TLC. It just sucks how obvious it is that Roman is gonna win to go on to fight Lesnar. Mostly just wanting to see Braun do something nuts, like flip a pod onto someone lol
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 25, 2018, 10:41:19 pm
Anyone else kinda annoyed by the "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey thing? Like it makes no sense to attach her to Piper other than it seems he was just her favorite wrestler. Sure, the alliteration works, but it's not like she's Curtis Axel who could do a Mr. Perfect throwback being his son, and it was considered a joke gimmick when he was acting like Hulk Hogan. Is it because she doesn't have much going on character wise since she understandably doesn't have much mic/character experience? Oh well...
At least we can expect a mixed team match of Kurt and Ronda vs HHH and Stephanie eventually. Kurt and Ronda should call their team "The Olympians" lol
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Post by: ignition365 on February 26, 2018, 08:10:55 am
Anyone else kinda annoyed by the "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey thing? Like it makes no sense to attach her to Piper other than it seems he was just her favorite wrestler. Sure, the alliteration works, but it's not like she's Curtis Axel who could do a Mr. Perfect throwback being his son, and it was considered a joke gimmick when he was acting like Hulk Hogan. Is it because she doesn't have much going on character wise since she understandably doesn't have much mic/character experience? Oh well...
At least we can expect a mixed team match of Kurt and Ronda vs HHH and Stephanie eventually. Kurt and Ronda should call their team "The Olympians" lol
Her nickname in the UFC was Rowdy Ronda Rousey... so they are just carrying it over.
Anyone else kinda annoyed by the "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey thing? Like it makes no sense to attach her to Piper other than it seems he was just her favorite wrestler. Sure, the alliteration works, but it's not like she's Curtis Axel who could do a Mr. Perfect throwback being his son, and it was considered a joke gimmick when he was acting like Hulk Hogan. Is it because she doesn't have much going on character wise since she understandably doesn't have much mic/character experience? Oh well...
At least we can expect a mixed team match of Kurt and Ronda vs HHH and Stephanie eventually. Kurt and Ronda should call their team "The Olympians" lol
Her nickname in the UFC was Rowdy Ronda Rousey... so they are just carrying it over.
Ah, I never knew anything about her from UFC, so that would explain it. Still don't really like it, as it was fine for UFC as a personal homage, but it's not really a big deal in the end. I kinda just need to see her do something that makes me actually like her.
Didn't see the aftershow, but I knew for awhile that Reigns would win, it was pretty clear that he would to set up Lesnar vs Reigns. Not looking forward to another Reigns run with the belt, but it'll at least get it off Lesnar, which is the most important thing. There's talk of him going back to UFC, so that'll be a good thing to see him gone.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 19, 2018, 11:10:42 pm
Interesting thought that came up while watching some wrestling lists on Youtube, but why don't we have managers/valets anymore? Lesnar has one with Heyman, and that's a big reason he gets over as much as he does. Sure, Lesnar will always be the one in the ring, but Heyman gets him over with the big talk all the time about being the Conqueror and all that. Otherwise Lesnar is just a dull meathead who suplexes people a bunch.
It doesn't always need to be done in a way to make someone seem tough or mysterious, it works for the cowardly heel, or maybe just creating a dynamic to work off of, like kinda seen with some of that Tidus Worldwide thing, where they brought in Dana Brooke to play like a "statistician" or whatever it is she does, and Tidus kinda playing the guy in charge. Another would be Paul Ellering who is with Authors of Pain. Lana used to be good for Rusev, who's been great with other stuff lately.
We don't get as much of this anymore...Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart, Paul Bearer (Who I didn't know worked as a manager named Percy Pringle III before Undertaker), this kind of stuff can be great and can help take some of the workload off wrestlers who struggle with the mic. Best thing about it is that it's a great thing for wrestlers who maybe retired or can't wrestle like they use too anymore. Like it's unlikely we'll see Sting wrestle again, but him managing some younger hotshot? That's a good way to bolster someone up, especially if they got a good gimmick to work with. Shawn Michaels would be another as he's regularly showing up at events. Mick Foley when he comes back would perfect to have back after he's all rested up from all of his surgeries last year.
It's just an element that I think has fun aspects to it if done right and would kinda throw in some fresh voices into promos and backstage segments.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 20, 2018, 05:48:14 pm
Surprising bit of news, but WWE actually medically cleared Daniel Bryan to wrestle! I hope he can stay safe this time, but I wonder if he'll actually fit into more of a part time role than full time. He may be cleared, but he's had a few too many concussions and had a seizure after one before. We also know of the major dangers that come from too many concussions, so I feel like they'll use him sparingly. There's no way he could risk a full time schedule. This wouldn't something as barely used as Lesnar, but probably very few house shows and not wresting every single week.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 30, 2018, 03:51:41 pm
Geez, what a jump into the past...Ultimate Warrior vs Hercules? Sensational Sherry was the women's champion? Interesting times lol
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 05, 2018, 02:23:46 am
Wrestlemania weekend is about to hit with a lot of stuff going on. It starts Friday with the Hall of Fame. Goldberg, Jeff Jarret, Ivory, Mark Henry, Hillbilly Jim, The Dudley Boyz, and Kid Rock for those random celebrity reasons.
Saturday is NXT Takeover. I've been out of the loop on NXT for awhile. I think the last show I watched was War Games. Should be some good stuff here though as it tends to be. Ladder Match for the North American Championship should be good, Gargano vs Ciampa should be great, and I'm sure the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team match will be good.
Sunday is proper Wrestlemania.
-I'm always into Battle Royals, so those could be entertaining. I'm a gimmick sucker.
-Hopeful for something good with Lesnar vs Reigns as I'm pretty sure Reigns is gonna win as it seems like Lesnar is heading to UFC, which I'm glad, but I'm more interested in future possibilities now that the belt will be on a full time wrestler. Just worried that Lesnar will half ass this. I don't think he will, but we are going into the exact same situation as Wrestlemania XX, where Lesnar had a match with Goldber, and they were both leaving, and everyone knew, so they half-assed the match, and everyone booed them.
-Styles vs Nakamura should be amazing. I know it won't be as good as their Wrestle Kingdom 10 match, but these are both great wrestlers and there's a lot of build to this. I dont' think it'll be everything it could be as I believe Styles has been nursing an injury, but we'll see.
-Mostly only interested in Bryan/McMahon vs Owens/Zayn, because this is Bryan's return to wrestling. I don't know if he'll go nuts for his return, I still think he has to play it abit safe, but it should be good and the crowd will likely be going mental for it.
-And I am slightly interested for whatever comes from Strowman and Mystery Partner vs The Bar. This is a throwaway thing for Strowman, but if they get a genuinely awesome tag partner for him, an interesting surprise, I wouldn't mind it. Not thinking about special guest surprises, maybe bringing him back to his old partnership with a reincarnated Bray Wyatt could be something after the whole Ultimate Deletion shenanigans.
-Flair vs Asuka has potential to be really dang good. Both are solid wrestlers at the top of their game. Charlotte is honestly abit hit and miss, but she can really sell hits if everything goes well. Same for Asuka who is always a favorite. Curious if they are gonna end her undefeated streak her or continue it on...
That's about it for me. There isn't much bad that I'm expecting, the US championship probably being basic, Bliss vs Jax just being a thing, the IC belt being fine, Cruserweight belt being fine, and I don't know from the Rousey event. She's flipped some people into tables, McMahon can't wrestle really, so that'll leave HHH and Angle, neither of which are at the top of their game. This one is probably better for story stuff than legit wrestling quality. I'm totally fine being proven wrong.
It is annoying that the whole thing with Cena vs Undertaker seemed to be mostly bullshit. Hype building mostly. They might be there and do something in some capacity, but it's not gonna likely be a match, especially being that the show is stupidly long already. I know I wasn't there for WWE at the time, but lots of people want Taker to come out with his Biker gimmick, rather than the Deadman. Might be funny.
Then of course we got Raw and Smackdown afterwards. Crazy to have 5 days of stuff happening, but Wrestlemania weekend is always entertaining.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 07, 2018, 08:52:52 pm
God dang, that Ladder match for the North American Championship. Good chance that could be match of the weekend, it was real good and a hell of a way to kick off the show.
NXT is also nailing with these musical acts. Great lead in music at the start (mixing issues aside), Halestorm performing Ember Moon's intro. NXT once again proving to be better than the main show lol
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Post by: burningdoom on April 09, 2018, 02:01:06 pm
WrestleMania turned out pretty damn well, despite being low on starpower.
That Ronda Rousey match was surprisingly good. And she sure does wear that kilt better than Roddy Piper ever did.
And what in the hell are they gonna do about the tag champions?
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 09, 2018, 03:54:03 pm
Yeah overall it was a good Wrestlemania. Hated the main event though, because it just means we are going to have Lesnar farting around with the belt for awhile longer. Lesnar is just awful. I don't think he's had a good match in a long time now.
And that whole bit with Strowman was weird. I thought it was like a Make-A-Wish thing after first, but apparently Nicholas is just some random WWE officials kid. It's an odd, on screen, baby face thing for Strowman. It's just bad writing that makes The Bar look like jobbers. I think they just wanted to refresh the tag team scene, but I don't know why they did it this way. It's baffling.
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Post by: muntyjack on June 25, 2018, 10:37:48 am
I am a big fan of this sport
Title: Re: Wrestling Thread!
Post by: muntyjack on June 26, 2018, 08:33:01 am
I love sport and wrestling is one of my favorite. This sport inspired me to lose weight. About 6 months ago my weight was about 120kg (yeah I was really fat). So then I watch one of wrestling fight. I was amazed with that guys. So then I assigned to the gym and for faster results I even had butt lift without surgery (https://www.beautyfixmedspa.com/vacuum-butt-therapy/) procedures. I managed to get muscles and I want to inspire other ppl don't be lazy.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 18, 2018, 08:28:22 pm
I haven't watched NXT in awhile, but every time I jump back in with the occasional Takeover event, I'm reminded at how incredible NXT can be, especially compared to the main brand. Richochet vs Adam Cole was nuts. Guaranteed I will see nothing as good tomorrow at Summerslam as I saw here. The event isn't even over yet too as I'm sure Ciampa and Gargano will be nuts too lol
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Post by: burningdoom on September 06, 2018, 01:56:35 pm
Helluva Raw this week, huh?
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 05, 2019, 10:19:14 pm
Man, if you want to jump back into wrestling, watch today's NXT Takeover: New York. I know NXT regularly kills it, more than the main show ever usually does, but man, not a bad match here and they ended it super strong. I haven't watched anything in a good few months, figuring I'd jump back in for Wrestlemania which is usually good enough to watch, but man this Takeover was a great time.
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Post by: ignition365 on May 17, 2019, 09:38:27 am
So I've gotten back into wrestling, like for real. I've been watching Raw, Smackdown, and Main Event. Probably won't get into 205 Live, but might give NXT a chance because it sounds like it's pretty damned good. I'm looking forward to seeing if AEW can become a real true competitor for the WWE now that Impact is sliding.
Money in the Bank sounds like it's gonna have some really good matches... I'm really considering signing up for the trial for WWE Network so I can watch it.
It might be that I've been out of the loop watching for so long, but a lot of the stuff going on at MitB sounds like it's going to be real good. I'm interested in how Becky Lynch's two matches will play out. I really expected them to do a thing where Charlotte and Lacey would have to fight to see who would get the advantage of fighting Becky second. I'm particularly a big fan of Nikki Cross, so her recent addition to the MitB match intrigues me. When he was younger Shane McMahon had some interesting matches, but he's looking pretty old and I'm not much of a Miz fan, but they seem to be putting together a decent emotionally driven storyline for the two of them and throwing them in a Steel Cage might promise an interesting fight... I'm sure there will be plenty of shenanigans. I'm not really invested in the men's MitB match, but I'm expecting Strowman to interfere with the match setting up a long term rivalry with Sami Zayn.
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Post by: doafan on May 19, 2019, 12:46:09 pm
Haven't been watching wrestling for real these past months, in fact what I have been doing is to read and watch the results of the matches/events from a couple of webpages and some folks that I follow at Youtube, for Money in the Bank have one good theory that would love to see at the event and this is Kevin helping Sami to get the briefcase then Sami helping Kevin to won the belt of champion and when KO were celebrating Zayn can betray is friend and exchange the briefcase for the championship, crazy but possible 8)
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Post by: ignition365 on May 20, 2019, 09:09:25 am
Yikes was the final MitB match terrible. Personally I hate Brock Lesnar, he's such a lazy fucking wrestler, I don't know why WWE puts him over so much. His matches suck, his promos suck, he sucks... he doesn't even full commit either.
I don't know what I honestly was hoping for with Becky Lynch, I think I was just hoping they'd let her remain Becky 2 Belts for a little while longer, but she had to drop one at some point unless they were planning to unify. They did pretty well to have her drop the title without it making her look bad. 2 back to back fights, interference loss, and then they immediately had Flair lose the title. Hearing "9 time champion" all I hear is 9 time loser, 9 time person who probably held the belt for less than a month. I like hearing shit like how AJ Styles is one of the longest reigning modern champions, that he held the belt for like a straight year, that's more impressive than holding the title 9 times... especially when you only hold the title for what? 5 minutes?
Women's MitB match was interesting, I enjoyed it well enough and they had enough going on that it was a pretty great fight. I tuned out the Cruiserweight fight as I'm not actively paying attention to 205 Live, so I don't really care. Elias match was oddly a squash match, which was disappointing because seeing his recent matches it looked like he'd be able to pull a good match out of Reigns... who in my eyes is about as charismatic in the ring as Lesnar... I'm exaggerating, nobody is as bad as Lesnar.
Shane/Miz match was a tad disappointing. That constant Shane being a bitch and trying to literally slip away. I don't know if they still do Hell in a Cell PPV shit in the summer, but that's my expectation as the next step for these two.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 20, 2019, 05:11:11 pm
I was thinking of watching MITB, then held off as I wanted to see where things were going lately, but then I saw that Brock Lesnar won the MITB without fighting at all and that's basically one of the worst things they could've done. I was alright with Lesnar when he came back and there were some fights here and there that were okay, but for like the last...two years I think, he's done absolutely jack squat. His matches are boring and he's held one of the belts hostage for far too long. Like does this mean that Lesnar is just gonna hold yet another title hostage as he part times his way to a paycheck?
Stuff like this is why WWE is in the dumps among many other things and keeps me from being excited about keeping up with stuff. The only time WWE really seems to get something right, is with NXT. I don't watch the regular show, but Takeover and War Games continue to be pretty damn great. The reason those tend to do well? Not under Vince McMahon's watch.
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Post by: mark1982 on May 21, 2019, 05:11:12 am
I watched MITB as well... talk about a let down with Lesnar winning, I was actually rooting for Andrade - that Sunset powerbomb to Finn Balor on the ladder was insane!
Want a Los Ingobernables champion in the future for WWE ;D I believe Andrade will have his time, guy is amazing in the ring.
The AJ Styles match with Seth Rollins was the best match of the night. Was hoping AJ turns heel again, maybe bring Undisputed Era with him to the main roster and raise hell like in his Bullet Club days... sigh, will it ever happen..
Well, AEW Double or Nothing is just around the corner, looking forward to see Jericho in action again, along with Kenny Omega, sheesh it feels like ages since these guys been in a ring.
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Post by: ignition365 on May 21, 2019, 10:17:16 am
I wasn't aware that WWE Network didn't get the live shows, so I wound up watching Raw streaming on some sleazy looking website. I mostly only tuned in because of the whole Mick Foley is debuting a new championship thing. I was really expecting them to try and unify the World/Universal belts or introduce like a TV title or something. Then Mick started talking and EVERYONE thought it was going to be the hardcore title... but no, it's just a 24/7 belt to be used as a comedic bit. Crowd booed like crazy when he revealed it wasn't the Hardcore Championship.
So I think I won't be keeping a subscription to WWE Network knowing that I still need Hulu to watch Raw and Smackdown, since WWE Network gets the episodes staggered like a month and a half back. If I can't watch the weekly stuff live, I don't think I'm going to pay $10/month just to watch 1 event a month. I'm certainly not going to subscribe to cable or Hulu Live TV because that shit costs way too damned much for something I'd only use to watch wrestling.
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Post by: mark1982 on May 21, 2019, 10:44:16 am
Holy hell that belt is atrocious... I just saw. And they bring back Mick Foley for that?
I think the only real appropriate reaction here is to just move along and don’t make eye contact..
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Post by: ignition365 on May 21, 2019, 10:50:09 am
Holy hell that belt is autrcious... I just saw. And they bring back Mick Foley for that?
I think the only real appropriate reaction here is to just move along and don’t make eye contact..
Without any modicum of respectability, this title is a full on joke. We'll have title changes during house shows and it'll just overall be a terrible thing and devalue the idea of being a champion.
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Post by: ss4moku on May 22, 2019, 10:54:34 am
I watch WWE through mainly 2 dubious sites, but they work really well and get the job done in my opinion.
I watch all their weekly shows including the somewhat ok 205 Live. NXT and NXT UK are their strongest stuff, mainly because Vince isn't involved.
I don't understand how it's totally cool that Lesnar won the MITB match, and there was no backlash storyline-wise. Remember the first MITB women's match, and because of how Carmella initially won it, they did a rematch? Guess you can't expect that sorta reaction since it's Brock, he's lazy, and he probably would've been taken out like Big Show was in a previous MITB, laid out underneath a bunch of ladders. Can't have Brock looking weak unless it's someone like Roman Reigns facing him lol
That 24/7 championship is interesting, but so far there's no substance to it. At least the Hardcore championship they had some decent matches. This just looks like whoever has the belt is going to hide and run in the backstage area worse than Crash ever did.
Well, I'm looking forward to next week's TakeOver XXV. Not sure how well that Super ShowDown the week after is gonna be, but Goldberg vs. Undertaker might be pretty bad. Maybe next WrestleMania we'll finally see Taker vs. Sting. But I have doubts they'll ever pull that trigger, especially considering what happened with Sting. They're not getting any younger lol
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Post by: doafan on May 23, 2019, 09:45:12 am
Every damned time I decide to watch a ppv, it's gotta end with Brock Lesnar being Brock Lesnar. God I hate hat guy.
The worst part is that he won the Universal title, again :'(
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Post by: mark1982 on July 15, 2019, 12:57:41 pm
at least AJ Styles is heel again with Bullet Club guys. Just one lacking, come on down Balor and join the club, after all he started the whole thing in Japan :)
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 15, 2019, 02:56:53 pm
Yeah I didn't watch the PPV, but hearing that Lesnar cashed in and is champion again, shows why I'm not watching the PPV's. I know he had to the cash-in and maybe he won't ruin things again for months on end, but man that still sucks.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 12, 2019, 12:00:04 am
Only saw this with clips, but this has to be one of the best debuts/redesign of a wrestler in quite a long time, especially in terms of embracing a gimmick. Also the first time since I've come back to wrestling that I felt like Wyatt is in a real good place if creative continues to handle this well, unlike all the failed pushes he's had over the past couple years. It feels like a legit Attitude Era type of feel to the character, that he would be duking it out with Mankind and Undertaker and The Brood, which is fitting that he did get to "Mandible Claw" Mick Foley a few shows back lol
As much as I love a good technical wrestler like Richochet or hard hitting guys like Gargano and Ciampa, I love a good gimmick and you just don't see that as much anymore. Now we just have to see if WWE Creative is willing to keep embracing this character or screw it up like they usually do lol
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Post by: ignition365 on August 12, 2019, 09:08:58 am
The show last night was pretty okay. Even the preshow wasn't terrible. I'm glad Lesnar doesn't have the belt anymore. That match... was something. All Lesnar can do in terms of wrestling is just a full on finisher fight. No fighting, no wrestling, just back and forth finishers until it's over... which just really shows how weak Seth Rollins finisher is. It's a god damned head stomp.
I would've much rather seen the Women's Tag match on the main card rather than see that Trish Stratus match. It was a very subpar match, felt like it belonged on one of those Saudi Arabian Super Show PPVs. Mildly disappointed that there was no Tag Title matches. The Fiend's (Bray Wyatt) match was pretty squash, his entrance was pretty cool old school Taker throwback, I did always love Taker's shtick back in the day where the lights would go down and he'd just appear. The mask helps convey the creepiness that they always try to portray with Wyatt. But ending the PPV on a squash match... very meh, my only guess is they are going to push this gimmick HARD. Also, Kofi x Orton was odd. The match ended in a ring out, which the crowd didn't seem happy with, kind of a weak way to end a big title match.
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Post by: ignition365 on January 27, 2020, 03:05:30 pm
I don't have many places to go and chat about wrestling so I'm gonna rant here about last night's Royal Rumble.
1) Sheamus x Shorty G - They televised segments for this rivalry or whatever and then it was a dark match, boo.
2) Andrade x Humberto Carillo - Again, they made a huge deal out of the thing with Andrade and his US reign... and it's a dark match, boo.
3) Reigns x Corbin - I heard a lot of folks actually enjoyed this fight, I didn't really watch it as I was getting my kid ready for bed, but I don't care for Corbin or Reigns, so it was an easy skip for me.
4) Women's Rumble - So much good stuff went on in this, but the whole time I'm watching it, I'm thinking to myself, who would WWE push to win this thing. They've been pushing Bianca Belair pretty fucking hard, but she already has a title match with Ripley at Takeover Portland, so it's non sensical... plus I really don't care for her. She ends every match holding her head... is it your hair? Do you have undiagnosed brain damage? Is this how you sell hard fought matches? I don't know, I don't like it. While WWE wants to act like NXT is on equal ground as Smackdown and Raw, I don't think they'd let an NXT star win one of these things just yet, not until the ratings justify it and NXT ratings just aren't good enough. Over half the competitors were NXT or Unsigned/Retired folks, so that didn't leave much. Kairi is really good, but with Asuka getting a shot and them having the belt, no, I don't think so. I'm still expecting a Bliss-Cross x Kabuki Warriors Tag Title match at Mania, so that knocks out a handful. I love Sarah Logan, but I knew she was gonna get jobbed again. No way they are pulling Fire & Desire, or Lana and Liv from their respective promos. That pretty much guaranteed a Raw winner with the only reasonable winners maybe being Flair, Naomi, or Natalya. Personally not a fan of Flair, she's so stale at this point and I hope she jumps to Smackdown. Anyway, overall enjoyable match, I figured Otis would save Mandy at least once, but I'm pleased to say while watching, I didn't see it coming, so it pleased me. Naomi's little parkour thing was kinda funny and I enjoyed it. Beth Phoenix and Natalya kicking ass was pretty dope, I still hate the turning on your friend trope. I'm a huge fan of Bliss-Cross so it was nice to see them work together and not betray each other, I'm constantly concerned they are going to do that because it's very much a Bliss thing to do based on her history. A lot of the NXT stars looked pretty damned bad ass. Just overall a great showing. The Santina thing annoyed me a little because it belittles what great is going on and just makes a joke at the expense of having another competitor in the match. I'm glad to know that Kelly Kelly being in the match was a last minute thing and not planned, because I was not a fan of it. She is very much a relic of an era when women's wrestling was slapping, hair pulling, and overly sexist maneuvers.
5) Bayley x Evans - Especially with the placement of this match, I expected this to be a quick match with no title change with a possible build up to a real fight at whatever their February event is. Match ended with a roll up which is always weak and a non end to a story. So this will likely continue.
6) Fiend x Bryan - Premise for the fight is good and they built the fight up well, but we knew this wouldn't be the end of the Fiend's reign. This is the first Fiend match I've seen and I'm glad that I never had to experience the "red lights" that I heard people talk about not being there last night. Match went pretty well, but the end was so abrupt and anticlimactic, I didn't care for that.
7) Lynch x Asuka - I had heard about WWEs plan for this match a long time ago when some Raw match went a certain way and there were talks that WWE didn't mean to end the match that way so they could properly build a Lynch/Asuka rivalry. I didn't buy into the promos, but I knew it'd be a great showing because they are both fantastic competitors. Fantastic match with the ending I expected and I think several people called.
8) Men's Rumble - I'll preface this with the statement that I hate Brock Lesnar, always have, always will. The first ~25 minutes of the match were just torture for me. He just flicked people around like a napkin ball. And when people did manage to stack up, they didn't focus on Lesnar solely so he managed to continue. I'll also state that I hate the cliched turning on your pal thing, it's so over played and I hate it. Once Lesnar was out the match kind of picked up to its usual stuff, pretty good overall. Glad to see Edge in there and kick some major ass. The AOP/Rollins thing got tiresome quick and luckily they ended it rather quick I felt. Match started stupid slow and stupid and gradually built to a real good match. Kind of cinches that McIntyre is going face. Will be interesting to see because he seems very Orton in that he has a heel face and swagger.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 27, 2020, 04:17:05 pm
I was gonna watch the Rumble, because it's one of the few shows for wrestling I kinda like outright, no matter what is going on, because it's kinda dumb, but like it's the kind of dumb I've enjoyed since I was a kid lol, but I I was worn the hell out on Sunday and ended up passing on it. I might go back and check out both the women and men's match and maybe the Fiend/Wyatt and Becky/Asuka match.
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Post by: doafan on January 27, 2020, 07:02:13 pm
Haven't seen any show/event in a while but I still watch the news and results of these thanks to a youtuber, this guy got some pretty good predictions for this Royal Rumble and he was so damn right that I decided to watch at least the men's rumble, have to say that am not dissapointed with the development and results of this match, in fact am very impressed in how good it was 8)
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Post by: ignition365 on January 28, 2020, 12:23:03 pm
So it sounds like Edge is back, and they're having him feud with Orton to ease him back into things. They've got good history and chemistry and Orton is fantastic in the ring.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 10, 2021, 11:14:12 pm
Been a long time since I watched much wrestling, but I figure I would check out Wrestlemania since it is having an audience, even though I know almost nothing about the stories going on. Gotta say, they are selling way too much for this guy Bad Bunny, some rapper I've never heard about before. Like he's surprisingly good for a non-wrestler, one of the better guys I've seen actually, he's apparently a pretty big fan of wrestling, but he shouldn't be beating down Miz and Morrison who've been wrestling for nearly 20 years each lol
That being said, holy crap, Bad Bunny did a Canadian Destroyer on Morrison on the outside perfectly. That's really impressive lol I'm actually curious of other celebs that have done nearly as good of a job as this. Actually a real good match.
Braun and McMahon was solid enough for not being too much of an actual wrestling match, I always like when Braun gets to tear something up and McMahon loves falling/jumping from cages lol Lashley versus McIntyre was okay, the women's tag stuff was fairly rough, and Cesaro vs Rollins wasn't too bad. I like that they are doing a two day event rather than like a 6+ hour slog that Wrestlemania usually is. Hope they keep this setup.
Bianca is pretty impressive. Real good agility and quite strong, usually they push this type of thing with bigger wrestlers, for women it would be Nia Jax or Tamina, . I only really knew her from a short bit of NXT I watched where it seemed like what most of her gimmick was whipping people with her hair lol Some good stuff here for sure. I don't know how they've been pushing Bianca up till this, but she could be a real great women's champion as long as they don't screw up the storytelling like they are often want to do lol Also man, that hair whip just doesn't ever stop being so nasty lol
Overall, not a bad first day for Wrestlemania. They were very smart to put Banks and Bianca on last, it was a way better match than Drew and Lashley. The only weak match of the night being the women's tag match.
Wish I could say I'm looking forward to Zayne vs Owens tomorrow, but they put Logan Paul in the match and that's just a complete mood killer. Also not looking forward to the Orton and Fiend match...I mean isn't this like their third PPV battle now? They had that pretty awful match a couple years back at Wrestlemania, and they did that house fight which was also pretty bad. I guess the only way it could turn out okay is if Bray wins, because if he doesn't, I feel like it guarantees another burial of the character...by Orton again...OH GOD WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS, WHY DOESN'T WWE LEARN!
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Post by: weirdfeline on April 11, 2021, 08:46:48 pm
Bad Bunny was really good.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 11, 2021, 09:05:18 pm
He must've been training for months, it's wild how good he was. I still think they ran him too long, it was sorta ridiculous to have a rapper in there on even footing with two veteran wrestlers, but he killed it.
Ended up spacing on watching Day 2 of Wrestlemania and can't go back through the stream on Peacock for it till it is done, so gonna go and watch it later after it's finished.
*EDIT* As goofy as all this Fiend stuff can be, I think it's still fun...Like I'm going into the Orton vs Fiend match expecting the worst, that this thing is going to be another burial of Bray Wyatt again by Orton, but I hope not lol I do like how Slasher villain The Fiend is, the whole burning him, just to come back is very Jason lol And...Orton once again beats Bray for some lame story reason. Like at least The Fiend is continuing after this, but all the buildup for that half-assed match at Wrestlemania? Also everyone hated that, so yes, once again another terrible Bray and Orton PPV match lol God, one RKO took him out? He was acting indestructible beforehand, but only one RKO? Didn't someone at some point take multiple RKO's before going out? It infuriates me that WWE keeps screwing things up with the writing so much with wrestlers like Bray. Like they just can't figure out interesting ways to end anything.
Zayne and Owens have had their good times over the years, should be a good match I hope...not sure I am into this conspiracy theory thing they are doing with him, but he seems like he's having some good fun with it and always had that kind of high energy that works for this character and all that hair and beard helps sell it more...Anything with Logan Paul can piss right off though. It's a seriously lame inclusion to this. It was overall a good enough match, these two really know how to sell hits damn well and the energy they have together is great. Though I can appreciate somewhat Logan playing the douche and getting a stunner for it. The only use he's good for in this lol
Holy cow, Sheamus is so just so dang white, and with the shine on his body and the camera not cutting on his entrance, I thought I was looking at footage of the next WWE2K game lol I haven't seen too much of Riddle beyond a bit of him in NXT, so I don't know how this goofy stoner bro thing he has going on is working lol A little slop in the match by the end, but not too bad. Oh geez, that ending though, Riddle took a boot right to the mouth from one heck of a move.
Big E is just a good time, I've been a fan of New Day for a number of years now and all three of those fellas are great. Never was much for Apollo, a fine wrestler, but never stood out for me. Some good spots, though an interference win for the belt is never a great way for a win, especially from a wrestler making his first appearance...
I'm a huge Asuka fan, like they haven't really handled her the best all the time, but she's such a great character with her style and attitude. Rhea I don't know too much, other than she's built and looks like an absolute badass lol She looks like she can absolute beat someone down. That singer for New Years Day is a little rough though lol Some great hard hitting stuff here, like I skipped the earlier women's tag team match, because I really don't expect too much out of most of those wrestlers involved, but Asuka has that hard hitting Japanese style and Rhea seems like she can keep in there with that. Not sure if the ending was quite big enough for ending Asuka's run as champ, but not too bad overall.
I last left Bayley when she was going heel...I have no idea what she is doing here, is she like the embodiment of a "Karen"? lol I guess they just don't have too much for her right now.
I'm actually very interested to see this final match with Daniel, Roman, and Edge. Bryan was playing heel last I saw him, I hadn't seen Roman since he'd gone heel, but I've been wanting to see something like this with him, and Edge, I haven't see him since he came back to wrestling, so we get three good dudes in one match and I hope it pans out in this main even match. Also is it just me or is WWE's new production makin certain things look like a videogame intro for some wrestlers? Like how they are holding on wrestlers for long times down the ramp in smooth shots, and with the lighting and maybe even some sort of framerate difference? It's so weird that I noticed this two or three times today. I do like two of these wrestlers are known for their spears, and they worked that into the match lol Overall not a bad match, they really sold all these hits pretty well.
I think overall, while this Mania didn't have a lot of the craziness it tends to have, there wasn't a whole lot of bad going on. That Fiend match sucked, and the first women's tag team match was kinda nothing, and I skipped their championship match, but otherwise I was into it. I had been out of wrestling for awhile, I was tired of the stories they were telling, and then 2020 hit and they lost the audience, which is a lot of what helps push matches, it is not the same without a crowd, it's why I can't watch much indie wrestling, the production and crowd of a show like WWE does a lot for my enjoyment. I might jump back in for abit now. See where things head from here.
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Post by: blaisezebrataur on June 21, 2021, 04:11:54 pm
I've been a fan of wrestling since 2002 and always have been a WWE fan since that was the first show I ever watched. My first ever memory was Shawn Michaels standing up from his wheel chair after having been hit in the back by his former friend Triple H. Since then I've always only really followed WWE, I did use to watch TNA(Now called Impact Wrestling) but when they went head to head with Raw, I stopped watching them.
WWE currently is still the best product of any wrestling company out there despite what others would say. Is it as good as it once was? No and it never will be, got to change with the times and enjoy the present.
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Post by: burningdoom on June 21, 2021, 04:45:21 pm
I've been a fan of wrestling since 2002 and always have been a WWE fan since that was the first show I ever watched. My first ever memory was Shawn Michaels standing up from his wheel chair after having been hit in the back by his former friend Triple H. Since then I've always only really followed WWE, I did use to watch TNA(Now called Impact Wrestling) but when they went head to head with Raw, I stopped watching them.
WWE currently is still the best product of any wrestling company out there despite what others would say. Is it as good as it once was? No and it never will be, got to change with the times and enjoy the present.
Both AEW and NWA are better. WWE is abysmally bad in 2021.
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Post by: blaisezebrataur on June 21, 2021, 05:31:19 pm
I've been a fan of wrestling since 2002 and always have been a WWE fan since that was the first show I ever watched. My first ever memory was Shawn Michaels standing up from his wheel chair after having been hit in the back by his former friend Triple H. Since then I've always only really followed WWE, I did use to watch TNA(Now called Impact Wrestling) but when they went head to head with Raw, I stopped watching them.
WWE currently is still the best product of any wrestling company out there despite what others would say. Is it as good as it once was? No and it never will be, got to change with the times and enjoy the present.
Both AEW and NWA are better. WWE is abysmally bad in 2021.
I can't speak on NWA because I haven't seen their shows, but AEW I've seen five shows and those are much more abysmally bad compared to WWE. AEW might have the talent to compete, but man their product comes across me so boring.
At the end of the day we can like and watch anything we like, and I'm not going to insult people's view like I've seen a lot of people do in the wrestling community.
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Post by: weirdfeline on March 21, 2022, 09:57:32 am
It looks like Daniel Bryan is going to be forced to retire. I just started watching wrestling last year around the time CM Punk left and Daniel Bryan quickly became my favorite. It's kind of sad that he just came back from injury and now he's injured again. Jeff Hardy is apparently injured now as well. I mainly watch WWE but I watch TNA sometimes to see Jeff Hardy.
This is my first post on this forum and I feel like such a downer.. well, at least Neville is a really fun to watch new talent!
This was my first post and it's funny how everyone I mentioned is now in AEW.
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Post by: weirdfeline on April 03, 2022, 12:34:06 am
Stone Cold Steve Austin just had his first match in 19 years and it was amazing.
Cody Rhodes is back in WWE.
Somehow what seemed like a skippable night of WrestleMania actually delivered. Night two will be even better.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 03, 2022, 01:18:28 am
Decided to watch it, because I was a little bored, even though I haven't watched WWE in quite awhile. Really underwhelming as a product for awhile now, especially with a lot of the people that left, and while I haven't really gone to watch AEW, which seems way cooler these days, that first night of Wrestlemania wasn't bad.
Uso's vs Nakamura/Boog was alright, I've long been a Nakamura fan, felt bad for Boog getting injured in that one spot.
Drew McIntyre vs Corbin was eh, I'm okay with McInteyre, he's a solid enough big man, but I've never liked Corbin much and his gimmick is just weird.
Rey vs Miz with others was fine, I only half watched it, Logan seemed to do fine, but I could care less about the guy.
Bianca vs Becky was pretty solid, great build, crowd was super into it, nice to see Bianca get the belt back after one of those awful and lame quick championship flips they love to do that are really annoying and almost always very unsatisfying.
Cody vs Seth was another solid one, it's definitely interesting to see Cody return and get to be himself without being saddling with the Stardust gimmick, which I thought was kinda fun at the time, but this definitely feels like something he has way more control with, so hopefully it's a good run for him.
Charlotte vs Rousey I barely watched, don't care too much for either.
And KO/Austin was not bad at all, it was obvious what was gonna happen, but they went fairly hard and Austin took a lot of bumps I didn't expect. It's totally fine for just one more run for Austin in his home state.
Overall, the first night was totally fine, nothing crazy exciting and there's way less for me on Night 2. Mostly just Brock and Roman which could be fine, and that's about it, maybe Edge vs Styles, the rest I'll pass on.