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Title: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on March 24, 2013, 02:52:20 pm
Do you have any unpopular gaming opinions?

Here are mine:

-Zelda II, Castlevania II, and Super Mario Bros. 2 are all great sequels. Different, granted, but still good.
-I HATE the N64 Controller, A LOT.
-Sonic Adventure sucked
-I loved Super Mario Sunshine
-Zelda: Ocarina of Time is NOT the best Zelda game, or even the best N64 game.
-I like RPGs, however I'm not a huge fan of the Final Fantasy games.
-I think Halo 2 is the best entry in the series.
-I like old-school Resident Evil better than the new RE games.
-I think Spider-Man: The Movie is a far better game than Spider-Man 2.
-The original XBox was my favorite console last generation.
-I prefer a great single-player campaign to a good multiplayer game.
-I don't care if a game is complete and in pristine condition. I just want it to be a legitimate copy (not pirated) and in playable condition.
-I like Sonic 3D Blast.
-I like Oblivion better than Skyrim.
-The King's Field series is far better than the Demon's/Dark Souls games.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: pacpix on March 24, 2013, 03:19:44 pm
-Zelda II, Castlevania II, and Super Mario Bros. 2 are all great sequels. Different, granted, but still good.
Definitely agree with you there. Super Mario Bros 2 and Zelda II are in my top three for their series.  I did not like Castlevania II though.

-Hydlide is not that bad, and is actually pretty fun.
-Wizardry IV is the hardest game ever.
-I did not like Wind Waker or the DS Zelda titles.
-Skyward Sword was good, but not Ocarina of Time or Link to the Past good.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 24, 2013, 03:27:53 pm
Do you have any unpopular gaming opinions?

Here are mine:

-Zelda II, Castlevania II, and Super Mario Bros. 2 are all great sequels. Different, granted, but still good.
-I loved Super Mario Sunshine
-Zelda: Ocarina of Time is NOT the best Zelda game, or even the best N64 game.
-I think Halo 2 is the best entry in the series.
-I like old-school Resident Evil better than the new RE games.
-I prefer a great single-player campaign to a good multiplayer game.
-I like Sonic 3D Blast.

I agree with all of these.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 24, 2013, 10:54:28 pm
I'm probably going to be raked over the coals for some of these...

- The N64 is one of the worst consoles of all time, and its controller is probably the worst I've ever laid hands on.
- The Dreamcast controller is also pretty terrible.
- Mario and Sonic reached their expiration date a long time ago.
- Multiplayer gaming is largely a waste of time.
- Call of Duty is formulaic crap that's doing more harm than good to gaming as a whole.
- Game review sites backed by advertising and corporate interests are universally worthless.
- The average game critic lacks the knowledge, skill, or experience to properly review even half the games they attempt to write about, particularly when it comes to shmups and fighting games.
- Unless you're dirt poor or extremely young, if you only own a handful or two games, you're not a gamer.
- Motion controls like the Wiimote and Kinect are pointless gimmicks that set this generation back by several years.
- System Shock 2 is superior to any of the BioShock games released so far.
- Fallout and Fallout 2 beat the pants off Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
- Super Metroid is still the best game in the series by a huge margin.
- The current crop of "indie games" and so-called "art games" are almost universally not worth playing, and the presumption some people have that other games are somehow not art is ridiculous and insulting.

That should be enough venom for now :p
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 25, 2013, 12:28:51 am
- The LoZ formula is stale.
- Most Sonic games are pretty awful.
- The best two Kirby games are Kirby's Pinball and Kirby's Avelanche.
- Sony has ruined their shot at the handheld market.
- The GBA is the best handheld console in existence.

Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 25, 2013, 12:40:11 am
Let's see what happens to me ....:S

The N64 Castlevania games are good.
Mainline Zelda *really* needs a serious shake up.
The PSP is last gens Saturn (as in, unpopular but has lots of fantastic Jp-only games that people won't notice for a decade)
Could not give a stuff about this upcoming Ducktales remake (the D&D games though... YES!)
It's really not that difficult to by niche games, more people should look harder.

*runs*
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 12:50:07 am
I'm probably going to be raked over the coals for some of these...

- The N64 is one of the worst consoles of all time, and its controller is probably the worst I've ever laid hands on.
- The Dreamcast controller is also pretty terrible.
- Mario and Sonic reached their expiration date a long time ago.
- Multiplayer gaming is largely a waste of time.
- Call of Duty is formulaic crap that's doing more harm than good to gaming as a whole.
- Game review sites backed by advertising and corporate interests are universally worthless.
- The average game critic lacks the knowledge, skill, or experience to properly review even half the games they attempt to write about, particularly when it comes to shmups and fighting games.
- Unless you're dirt poor or extremely young, if you only own a handful or two games, you're not a gamer.
- Motion controls like the Wiimote and Kinect are pointless gimmicks that set this generation back by several years.
- System Shock 2 is superior to any of the BioShock games released so far.
- Fallout and Fallout 2 beat the pants off Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
- Super Metroid is still the best game in the series by a huge margin.
- The current crop of "indie games" and so-called "art games" are almost universally not worth playing, and the presumption some people have that other games are somehow not art is ridiculous and insulting.

That should be enough venom for now :p

Im not going to rake you over the coals ... Im going to absolutely agree 110% with everything other than whatever the shock stuff is. Im going to add my own few things :

If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
The Xbox 360 is a huge pile of crap.  Microsoft needs to stick to computer stuff and get the hell out of the console gaming business.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: jcalder8 on March 25, 2013, 12:50:44 am
- The SNES is overrated
- Xbox Duke controllers are the best
- Throws in fighting games are not cheap
- Reproduction/Translation carts are a waste of money
- Games should focus on single player before adding multi-player elements.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: jcalder8 on March 25, 2013, 12:52:16 am
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
Not that I'm judging, I'm just wondering why you think that.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 25, 2013, 12:57:30 am
- Reproduction/Translation carts are a waste of money

I agree completely, although I have to make an exception for myself - I own a bundle of bootleg Chinese MD games... they cost me £3 each and officially licensed versions never existed in the first place (I'm talking about original Chinese MD games like Feng Shen Ying Jie Chuan, not bootlegs of Shining Force/Contra or something).

Thought of one more - XBLA is the best "console" of this gen.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: sin2beta on March 25, 2013, 12:59:10 am
Ones I have that actually seem to be popular "unpopular" picks:

- The N64 library worth owning is only about 10 games long. The controller is good for mario 64 and possibly Zelda, but that's it.
- I'm not a fan of final fantasy.

One's not mentioned (or not mentioned much)
- I like the virtual boy.
- I don't really like the PSone. The graphics were horrible and sony had the "no 2D" rule that made everything look awful.
- I do kind of like FMV games. However, kind of in a bad movie kind of way. So, that may not be unpopular.
- I prefer the genesis 3 button to 6 button. I am always disappointed that I have to switch controllers on games that require 6 buttons.
- I think this generation of gaming is one of the best.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kingrat101 on March 25, 2013, 01:20:01 am
Ooo yay! Im so glad people have said a lot of stuff I tend to hold in, to add to the list...
-I Love the gamecube, one of my favorite consoles of all time
-I think the dreamcast WAS underrated but now is getting overrated... same with Earthbound
-I think SNK put out a lot more quality fighting games than Capcom
-Not the biggest RPG fan, wheather its turn-based or not
-I HATE beat-em-ups
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: slothingXPIG on March 25, 2013, 01:37:44 am
1.I think the Turbografx is the most underrated console.
2. I liked the n64 controller.
3. I hate the price of games that cost over 100$
4. I hate Microsoft.
5. I love terrible games.
6.I think co-op is the funnest part of games(most of the time).
7.only thing fun about call of duty is the muilti-ops.
8.Call of duty is way overrated and almost can't stand people when that's all they play.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 25, 2013, 01:38:47 am
The PSP is last gens Saturn (as in, unpopular but has lots of fantastic Jp-only games that people won't notice for a decade)
Could not give a stuff about this upcoming Ducktales remake (the D&D games though... YES!)
It's really not that difficult to by niche games, more people should look harder.

*runs*

I've built up a small, but healthy PSP collection since I got one about a year ago, and I have to say, I really don't understand the hate the it gets from some people. Absolutely fantastic library, even without digging into the import side of things, and there are dozens of games I'd bet most people aren't even remotely aware of when they claim the system sucks. Gotta love an underdog, though.

I'm finding that you're right about niche games, too. While the stuff on my wishlist isn't quite as obscure as some of what you cover on your blogs, there's a lot that I've had wishlisted since 2005 or so, but never really tried to track down because I thought it would be too rare or expensive. Once I actually started trying though, I found it's a lot easier than I expected, and prices aren't any worse than anything else out there. The sole obstacle is my own income, not the market itself, and when I look at it that way, I find my buying habits change in favor of all these niche games I've wanted and just kept putting off for stupid reasons.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 25, 2013, 01:44:36 am
Oh sure! When I said "niche" I wasn't thinking of my kind of niche but just regular non-mainstream English titles - Under Defeat HD, Etrian Odyssey series, Culdcept, etc - there's a lot available but it seems people think that if it's not in the top ten of their local store it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: htimreimer on March 25, 2013, 02:42:22 am

I'm probably going to be raked over the coals for some of these...
i have the same feeling

- almost all of the games in the 7th generation are sh!t, full of over hyped and praised games and new IP's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property), old IP's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property) that went rotten a long time ago and get rebooted with no regard of what made the original any good (they also get over hyped and praised) and let not forget, the franchises that are poisoning the industry like cod and assassin's creed, hand holding game mechanics, lazy and short single player campaigns that only get fixed by adding multiplayer and DLC,
I can go on and on with this but i won't

- the n64 is an underrated classic console with a controller that just take's time to get use to

-  the elder scrolls 4 and 5 are not good games, there mediocre at best and there only saving grace is the mod community

- i hate fighting games

- the ps1 and snes are overrated

- final fantasy vii is overrated
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 08:15:37 am
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
Not that I'm judging, I'm just wondering why you think that.

Gamestop is the epitome of the wanna be gamer. "Oh you dont play FPS games? You dont know anything about gaming."
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 09:36:05 am
The N64 Castlevania games are good.

Agreed!

The PSP is last gens Saturn (as in, unpopular but has lots of fantastic Jp-only games that people won't notice for a decade)
Could not give a stuff about this upcoming Ducktales remake (the D&D games though... YES!)
It's really not that difficult to by niche games, more people should look harder.

*runs*

I've built up a small, but healthy PSP collection since I got one about a year ago, and I have to say, I really don't understand the hate the it gets from some people. Absolutely fantastic library, even without digging into the import side of things, and there are dozens of games I'd bet most people aren't even remotely aware of when they claim the system sucks. Gotta love an underdog, though.


I rediscovered the PSP sometime last year, or a bit before that. I had previously been put off with the system, because whenever I went looking for games, it always seemed like it was the same games on the shelf and the library really seemed stale. I think I had, maybe less than 10 PSP games because of it and never put much weight into the system.

Then I started discovering all the RPGs on it and it became more than "that system I can play Rondo of Blood on". Though I still dislike the PSP's leeching of the battery. I swear, every time I pick up the system to play a game, I have to let it charge.

If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
Not that I'm judging, I'm just wondering why you think that.

Gamestop is the epitome of the wanna be gamer. "Oh you dont play FPS games? You dont know anything about gaming."

So, you're saying that if I buy most of my games at Gamestop. I'm not a gamer? While I agree that a lot of the folks working at GameStop think they know everything there is to know. And there is an air of "superiority" among a lot of them. I don't see how shopping there is a negative towards a person's "gamer cred", ha. Hell, I go there looking for used current gen games all the time, I refuse to preorder from them though, unless it's an exclusive like Mirror of Fate's bonus.

But, I could prolly bet you that 80-90% of my PS2, DS, PSP, Wii, PS3 and 360 games all came from GameStop. Does that make me, a non-gamer? :P

- Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the best and last good Sonic game. 3D Blast was good and 4 gave me a bit of Nostalgia, but 3 & Knuckles still kicks both their asses.
- FPS games are a dime a dozen, like most sports titles.
- The Romance of the Three Kingdoms series is one of the best strategy games out there.
- I refuse to buy digital copies of retail Console games.
- Super Castlevania IV sucks, mostly due to the 8 way whip. And I'm glad they've never brought that mess back.
- While Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is an excellent game, Dawn of Sorrow and Order of Esclessia beat it.
- Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is not a great game, and is really kinda boring.
- Mutliplayer needs to take a back seat to a good Single Player game.
- I'm a pretty big fan of Final Fantasy X and XII.
- I don't believe in repro carts of games that were actually given a legit release in my region.
- Capcom is a piece of garbage publisher. That only cares about Street Fighter.
- Modern games aren't hard enough.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 25, 2013, 10:10:39 am
- The Romance of the Three Kingdoms series is one of the best strategy games out there.

Agreed! :D
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 11:37:54 am
- The Romance of the Three Kingdoms series is one of the best strategy games out there.

Agreed! :D

I can't even tell you how many hours I've put into either 6, 7, 8 and 9.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 11:40:46 am


So, you're saying that if I buy most of my games at Gamestop. I'm not a gamer? While I agree that a lot of the folks working at GameStop think they know everything there is to know. And there is an air of "superiority" among a lot of them. I don't see how shopping there is a negative towards a person's "gamer cred", ha. Hell, I go there looking for used current gen games all the time, I refuse to preorder from them though, unless it's an exclusive like Mirror of Fate's bonus.

But, I could prolly bet you that 80-90% of my PS2, DS, PSP, Wii, PS3 and 360 games all came from GameStop. Does that make me, a non-gamer? :P

Thats not 50% of your collection is it? :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 11:52:33 am
Well, if you consider the games I've bought, since GameStop has been a "thing". Then it very well could be 50% of the games I've bought since the PS1 generation and up. :P

Your logic is flawed.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 25, 2013, 12:22:07 pm
(1).  The 3rd Shadow Hearts game (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) was fun *AND* did NOT suck on the balls,

(2).  Radiata Stories was a good & fun game, and

(3).  Metal Saga was the same as above ("#2"),

(*WARNING*) - YES.

I know that these next two may be borderline blasphemy to some of you...SO...read the next/last two at your own risk  -and- don't say that I didn't warn ya'  :o

(4).  Final Fantasy VII, while a somewhat fun & enjoyable experience, in my eyes, is over-rated...and...about a "7/10" game, and

(5).  Crono Trigger is:  "(the same exact sentence & sentiment as #4/FF VII)".
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 25, 2013, 12:24:28 pm
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
The Xbox 360 is a huge pile of crap.  Microsoft needs to stick to computer stuff and get the hell out of the console gaming business.

Ummm, no.

1) Most of my PS2, 360, PS3, & PSP titles have come from GS. B2G1 free? Yes please.

2) The 360 is a fantastic console with the best online experience for any console to date. It also has the best controller I've ever used. Most of the multi-platform titles released on the 360 and PS3 are better on the 360 as most of them are actually designed to run on the 360 first. This isn't true of every game, but I would bet that over 50% of them fit into this category. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had an issue with either of my 360s. I've been gaming for a long time and there's a reason I have over 100 360 games and 36 PS3 games. I don't hate the PS3 at all, it's also a great console. However, Microsoft absolutely nailed it with the 360 and I'm hoping that their next console can do the same thing.

It's fun to hate on the big boys until you consider the facts :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 25, 2013, 12:25:12 pm
(1).  The 3rd Shadow Hearts game (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) was fun *AND* did NOT suck on the balls,

(2).  Radiata Stories was a good & fun game, and

(3).  Metal Saga was the same as above ("#2"),

(*WARNING*) - YES.

I know that these next two may be borderline blasphemy to some of you...SO...read the next/last two at your own risk  -and- don't say that I didn't warn ya'  :o

(4).  Final Fantasy VII, while a somewhat fun & enjoyable experience, in my eyes, is over-rated...and...about a "7/10" game, and

(5).  Crono Trigger is:  "(the same exact sentence & sentiment as #4/FF VII)".

Oh I definitely agree with you about Chrono Trigger and FF7 :D
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 25, 2013, 12:30:42 pm
I adore Chrono Trigger, but Chrono Cross? Now there's an overrated game.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 25, 2013, 12:35:02 pm
I adore Chrono Trigger, but Chrono Cross? Now there's an overrated game.

Haven't played Cross yet -but- if/when I do (from everything that I've heard about it), I'm expecting the music to be the best part of it...
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 25, 2013, 12:44:22 pm
It's fun to hate on the big boys until you consider the facts :)

My experience with the 360 has been a system built like absolute crap (and no, it's not stored in an enclosed space), up until the slim model rolled out, and a controller that's completely useless for fighting games and side-scrollers. Some decent exclusives, particularly for shmup fans who are willing to import, but better versions of many multi-platform games are also available on PC.

Funny thing about facts - they're often mutable :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 12:51:28 pm
Somehow I think this thread is going to turn into a giant troll.

Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: stethebubble on March 25, 2013, 01:00:58 pm
i agree with alot of these.

Timesplitters is the best FPS
$60 is too much for a video game that will cost $20 the following year (or cheaper if second hand)
DLC is a waste of cash and tells me games are being rushed out unfinished.
Ikaruga is the best shoot em up.
mario kart double dash was the best in the series

and the big one.  I ENJOYED BLOOD BOWL!!!!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: stethebubble on March 25, 2013, 01:04:57 pm
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
The Xbox 360 is a huge pile of crap.  Microsoft needs to stick to computer stuff and get the hell out of the console gaming business.

Ummm, no.

1) Most of my PS2, 360, PS3, & PSP titles have come from GS. B2G1 free? Yes please.

2) The 360 is a fantastic console with the best online experience for any console to date. It also has the best controller I've ever used. Most of the multi-platform titles released on the 360 and PS3 are better on the 360 as most of them are actually designed to run on the 360 first. This isn't true of every game, but I would bet that over 50% of them fit into this category. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had an issue with either of my 360s. I've been gaming for a long time and there's a reason I have over 100 360 games and 36 PS3 games. I don't hate the PS3 at all, it's also a great console. However, Microsoft absolutely nailed it with the 360 and I'm hoping that their next console can do the same thing.

It's fun to hate on the big boys until you consider the facts :)

id have to agree
the Xbox 360 controller is my fav. the PS3 is using a controller from last generation.
it also has dedicated graphics unlike the PS3's Chip (i could be wrong there)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 25, 2013, 01:16:59 pm
PS3 vs. 360 is the Godwin's Law of video games this gen, folks. Can we not go there?
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 01:18:57 pm
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
The Xbox 360 is a huge pile of crap.  Microsoft needs to stick to computer stuff and get the hell out of the console gaming business.

Ummm, no.

1) Most of my PS2, 360, PS3, & PSP titles have come from GS. B2G1 free? Yes please.

2) The 360 is a fantastic console with the best on-line experience for any console to date. It also has the best controller I've ever used. Most of the multi-platform titles released on the 360 and PS3 are better on the 360 as most of them are actually designed to run on the 360 first. This isn't true of every game, but I would bet that over 50% of them fit into this category. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had an issue with either of my 360s. I've been gaming for a long time and there's a reason I have over 100 360 games and 36 PS3 games. I don't hate the PS3 at all, it's also a great console. However, Microsoft absolutely nailed it with the 360 and I'm hoping that their next console can do the same thing.

It's fun to hate on the big boys until you consider the facts :)

1) B2G1 free of a whole lot of disk only stuff that people are trying to pawn off really doesnt sound all impressive.

2) Xbox has a horrible awkward controller that is too big and clunky. Their games mostly support the Gamestop way of thinking : FPS, racing, sports and mulitplayer online is the only way to proceed.

I hate on the big boys cause they deserve it. When a "game" store spends more time advertising that they buy iphones than anything to do with gaming, they should get out of the gaming market. And as far as this topic goes, its unpopular. Of course it seems the only one whose opinion is unpopular is mine.  :o
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 01:20:17 pm
And I agree this is going to turn into a giant troll and Im sure Ill piss off a few people in the process. But again the whole topic is "unpopular" gaming opinions.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 01:44:20 pm
Well, ya. And the only reason I mentioned the dig on buying games at GameStop is because I think it doesn't make sense. To me at least.

I could see not buying there, due to them starting cellphone and tablet trades/sales. Or because of their attitude. But I just don't understand how them being idiots makes a customer a baddie?

Hell, I look at it like any other place I might find a deal. If I can find something for cheap, I'll buy it. If they want me to reserve the latest game I don't care about, I say no thanks. Grab my deals and leave.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 25, 2013, 01:45:43 pm
1) B2G1 free of a whole lot of disk only stuff that people are trying to pawn off really doesnt sound all impressive.

I see your challenge and present you with this:

http://vgcollect.com/darko/ps2 (http://vgcollect.com/darko/ps2)
http://vgcollect.com/darko/ps3 (http://vgcollect.com/darko/ps3)
http://vgcollect.com/darko/psp (http://vgcollect.com/darko/psp)
http://vgcollect.com/darko/xbox360 (http://vgcollect.com/darko/xbox360)

If I had to estimate, I would say that ~ 70% of everything in those lists is from GS...and I don't buy games in disc format unless they are complete.

2) Xbox has a horrible awkward controller that is too big and clunky. Their games mostly support the Gamestop way of thinking : FPS, racing, sports and mulitplayer online is the only way to proceed.

Feel free to take another look at this: http://vgcollect.com/darko/xbox360 (http://vgcollect.com/darko/xbox360)

I have several FPS titles, several racing games, and even several sports games. However, I don't think there's anyone here that would disagree that the majority of the time I've spent with the system, based on my collection, has been with the many offerings which do not fall into the "Gamestop way of thinking".

The controller argument is just a preference thing.

I hate on the big boys cause they deserve it. When a "game" store spends more time advertising that they buy iphones than anything to do with gaming, they should get out of the gaming market. And as far as this topic goes, its unpopular. Of course it seems the only one whose opinion is unpopular is mine.  :o

Sony = Big Boy. I find it absolutely hilarious that people try to make an argument for Sony while bashing Microsoft this generation. MOST of the games released that you (an many others) seem to have an issue with are multi-platform. And, if they're exclusives, the other company probably has a substitute exclusive.

As far as GS is concerned...yeah, we all hate them but they do offer a service that all of us benefit from now and then.

Also, soera baited me :) He knew what was coming.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: jcalder8 on March 25, 2013, 01:47:51 pm
And I agree this is going to turn into a giant troll and Im sure Ill piss off a few people in the process. But again the whole topic is "unpopular" gaming opinions.
I agree with you on this one. I was just curious about why you thought that I never thought people would jump all over it.

When I saw the title of the thread I figured that there wouldn't be much if any discussion since the opinions are unpopular so of course most of them could start an argument.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 01:51:33 pm
I think its more along the lines of what people consider a "gamer". I watched the entire season of King of the nerds and almost every episode Danielle and Celeste were called professional gamers cause their involvement with CoD and WoW ... to me, thats not a gamer when thats your whole claim to fame and it (in a sense) exemplifies the type of person who does all their game shopping at Gamestop.

Again, there are 2 main words in the title of this topic. Unpopular and opinion. Not everyone is going to agree with me, obviously, but it is how I feel. I loathe the N64 and Dreamcast but that doesnt mean I loathe the people that use them or love them, we just disagree. I love the Saw movies series and Darko absolutely hates them. That doesnt mean he is wrong (he is, but whatever) that just means we have different tastes. Every topic on the planet has loves and hates (war, cars, abortion, politics, games, etc) and thats what makes this such an interesting planet.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 25, 2013, 01:53:35 pm
I think its more along the lines of what people consider a "gamer". I watched the entire season of King of the nerds and almost every episode Danielle and Celeste were called professional gamers cause their involvement with CoD and WoW ... to me, thats not a gamer when thats your whole claim to fame and it (in a sense) exemplifies the type of person who does all their game shopping at Gamestop.

Again, there are 2 main words in the title of this topic. Unpopular and opinion. Not everyone is going to agree with me, obviously, but it is how I feel. I loathe the N64 and Dreamcast but that doesnt mean I loathe the people that use them or love them, we just disagree. I love the Saw movies series and Darko absolutely hates them. That doesnt mean he is wrong (he is, but whatever) that just means we have different tastes. Every topic on the planet has loves and hates (war, cars, abortion, politics, games, etc) and thats what makes this such an interesting planet.

I just ate a sandwich, and it was FANTASTIC!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 25, 2013, 01:56:47 pm
Speaking of tasting things, I would appreciate it if someone would bring me donuts and fresh coffee because Monday is dumb.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 02:14:39 pm
Personally, I prefer the 360's controller. It fits nicely in my hands and is comfortable to use, I've played all nighters on that controller and never had my hands get tired. The Sixxais and Dual Shock 3 on the other hand, I don't like how it fits and I do get sore spots on my hand from long plays. Not to mention, the battery is built in and it feels light and toy like compared to the nice solid feel of the 360 controller.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 25, 2013, 02:19:23 pm
Somehow I think this thread is going to turn into a giant troll.

Hahaha!

W/ the words "unpopular" *AND* "opinions" both in the title...how could it ever not?

...'cause; ya' know...*opinions* -and- all that  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 25, 2013, 05:09:35 pm
Back to the unpopular opinions

I like the N64 Controller
I like Zelda II
I love SMB 2
I think FF VII is vastly overrated and is the single point where RPGs took a shit.
The PlayStation (PSone) is horrid.  The 3D is awful and forced. 
I don't like PC games
I have no problem with sports games coming out every year.  I've even bought a few back to back.  I like them.
Shooters don't bother me.  I've enjoyed a few.
I buy Call of Duty for the story.
I don't like Halo.  I've tried (I even just got Halo 4), but I'm just not down with it.
I think I'm done with the Zelda series. I just didn't like the last few.  I tried Twilight Princess and Spirit Tracks, but no.
The Metroid Prime Series was a mistake.  Bring back Super Metriod
Soera is wrong about everything he says.   ;)

This list could get really long.
Most of my "Unpopular Opinions" are just unpopular with the retro crowd.  I like the games.  I like the games that I like.  I don't like some games.  It's an opinion.  They're like assholes.  Everyone has one.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: sin2beta on March 25, 2013, 05:31:38 pm
I thought of one that reading the rest of the topic is bound to be unpopular.

- The 360 and PS3 are the same system. Seriously, flip a coin. It ain't the Genesis SNES days. The games look the same on the 360 vs PS3. What people criticize one system for, the other does it just as bad. They are both media hubs to the same degree. Sony has been trying to be an all-in-one entertainment device from the beginning. There are a few exclusives for each, but most are forgettable. But the systems are REMARKABLY similar and bland when it comes to identity. Neither company is focused on games. Just selling consoles. That is their business.

- Nintendo is the only company that still has a unique identity and feels like a console vs a stripped down PC. (although, I remember Mark from classic game room saying something similar in his Wii U review)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 25, 2013, 05:37:30 pm
Soera is wrong about everything he says.   ;)

This is not an unpopular opinion. This is proven to be the anti truth.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 25, 2013, 05:54:17 pm
ha nice.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: stethebubble on March 25, 2013, 06:38:26 pm
All video games are evil
they should be all sent to me to be correctly destroyed.
I will enjoy playing I mean destroying them in the near future.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: mkarasch on March 25, 2013, 11:17:24 pm
I like checkpoints.  I know it makes games easier, but I'd rather be challenged by the actual game, not by having to do the same things again and again, just to try the hard bit again.  I'm looking at you Demon's souls.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: htimreimer on March 26, 2013, 01:52:56 am
I thought of one that reading the rest of the topic is bound to be unpopular.

- The 360 and PS3 are the same system. Seriously, flip a coin. It ain't the Genesis SNES days. The games look the same on the 360 vs PS3. What people criticize one system for, the other does it just as bad. They are both media hubs to the same degree. Sony has been trying to be an all-in-one entertainment device from the beginning. There are a few exclusives for each, but most are forgettable. But the systems are REMARKABLY similar and bland when it comes to identity. Neither company is focused on games. Just selling consoles. That is their business.

- Nintendo is the only company that still has a unique identity and feels like a console vs a stripped down PC. (although, I remember Mark from classic game room saying something similar in his Wii U review)
i very much agree with you
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: thedisappearer on March 26, 2013, 04:41:20 am
I think it's sad that people try to determine "gamer cred" based upon the genres someone enjoys or the stores in which they buy their games.  What's extra sad is trying to tie those two things together to feel double superior about themself. 

I enjoyed the N64 controller, and it's probably my favorite console (though I collect mainly NES...).  I loath the rumble pak though.

I want a Uniracers sequel/remake.

Strategy guides and internet walkthroughs killed RPGs for me.  It may well be my fault for lacking the restraint to use them, but oh well.  Also, having children and a full time job may have factored in as well.  Either way, I don't spend as much time with the genre as I did 20, or even 10 years ago.

I want another Tony Hawk game, more in the spirit of TWPS 4.

Kirby games need a hardcore mode.

Majora's Mask sucked, as least as far as Zelda games go.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 26, 2013, 08:38:43 am
Would *liking* Soera count as an unpopular opinion?!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 26, 2013, 09:04:08 am
Would *liking* Soera count as an unpopular opinion?!

Yes!

I kid, Soera is my buddy, we just don't agree on a few things.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 26, 2013, 10:14:47 am
Would *liking* Soera count as an unpopular opinion?!

Yes!

I kid, Soera is my buddy, we just don't agree on a few things.

Yeah -not seeing everything the exact same way- has nothing to do w/ liking/not liking someone :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 26, 2013, 11:17:08 am
I like soera, but strongly dislike his preferences (for the most part). That's why we give each other so much shit :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 26, 2013, 11:18:46 am
Another one - for the time, the Atari Lynx is amazing. The tech they crammed into that thing is just unbelievable considering the era.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 26, 2013, 11:19:49 am
I like Soera and I agree with all his preferences. Hes like amazing. Its crazy.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 26, 2013, 11:20:33 am
Another one - for the time, the Atari Lynx is amazing. The tech they crammed into that thing is just unbelievable considering the era.

I only ask this because I don't know; do most people think the Lynx is garbage? I've admittedly never played one but it's something I've always wanted.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 26, 2013, 11:26:05 am
It's generally considered as even more of a failure than the Game Gear... which may not be untrue, but that doesn't mean that the hardware isn't good or that there aren't games worth playing, just that they didn't sell well.

Of course both of them went up against a handheld that would go on to become not just a massive commercial hit but an icon of gaming, so "failure" is kinda relative (a bit like the PSP "failing" against the DS).
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 26, 2013, 11:34:20 am
I think it's sad that people try to determine "gamer cred" based upon the genres someone enjoys or the stores in which they buy their games.  What's extra sad is trying to tie those two things together to feel double superior about themself. 

I can't speak for everyone who holds opinions that might be interpreted this way, but I think reducing these comments to simply people determining "gamer cred" is simplistic view.

The way I look at it, a lot of us have been gaming for years, sometimes decades, and have seen enough big shifts happen in the industry that we have a certain sense when things are happening, however gradually. It stands to reason that a lot of what you're perceiving as superiority is really just knowledgeable, experienced people making a correlation between certain genres, demographics, etc. and negative changes that they've observed.

I've only been here a short while compared to a lot of the others, but I figure if anyone here really wanted to wave their dick around, they'd go to GameFAQs.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 26, 2013, 12:08:55 pm
I like Soera and I agree with all his preferences. Hes like amazing. Its crazy.

I like that you're too damned lazy to even bother making an alt to post some shit like this  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 26, 2013, 01:27:39 pm
I've only been here a short while compared to a lot of the others, but I figure if anyone here really wanted to wave their dick around, they'd go to GameFAQs.

eight equals d?

JK...the community here is super nice. We just like to give each other some shit from time to time.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 26, 2013, 01:34:27 pm
I think some of this got taken way too seriously. 
Everyone's wrong except me.  My opinion is fact
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 26, 2013, 01:35:53 pm
(http://static.flickr.com/73/164438066_7fd309271c.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 26, 2013, 04:53:35 pm
Here's another one:

- SHMUPs are the only genre that requires skill.  :o
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 26, 2013, 05:06:21 pm
Here's another one:

- SHMUPs are the only genre that requires skill.  :o
Do you really think that, or are you trying to stir up the masses?
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 26, 2013, 05:37:47 pm
Nah not really. :)

Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on March 26, 2013, 07:19:07 pm
Here's another one:

- SHMUPs are the only genre that requires skill.  :o

Go beat Ninja Gaiden II on NES, then tell me that.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 26, 2013, 07:43:56 pm
lol, ya I wasn't being serious.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: thedisappearer on March 27, 2013, 06:05:02 am
I can't speak for everyone who holds opinions that might be interpreted this way, but I think reducing these comments to simply people determining "gamer cred" is simplistic view.

The way I look at it, a lot of us have been gaming for years, sometimes decades, and have seen enough big shifts happen in the industry that we have a certain sense when things are happening, however gradually. It stands to reason that a lot of what you're perceiving as superiority is really just knowledgeable, experienced people making a correlation between certain genres, demographics, etc. and negative changes that they've observed.

I've only been here a short while compared to a lot of the others, but I figure if anyone here really wanted to wave their dick around, they'd go to GameFAQs.
Possibly, but when you want to reduce a person's opinion/taste/whatever based upon where they shop and the genres they play (and engage in circular logic to tie them together and justify your opinion), you are clearly attempting to interject superiority over the person and their opinion/taste/whatever.  It's one thing for, say, cars or clothes, where there is a difference in the product, but when we are talking a case where the product is the same (minus pre-order swag), and you make sweeping generalizations, you are either intellectually dishonest, being elitist, or a combination of those (I suppose there are smaller possibilities, like a disgruntled former Gamestop employee or something as well).  While in many way Gamestop has done things which are a net negative for the industry and our hobby, in many other ways they have been a boon to both.  My ability to snatch up cheap, last generation titles on a used BOGO has been AWESOME for my collection, and I look forward to the Xbox 720 and PS4 for this reason alone.  :)  I could be reading all of this wrong, granted.  But usually when I see a "this/that" or "yes/no" argument with such black and white distinctions, I see it as a biased opinion.  And maybe *that* is an unpopular opinion.

But that's the point of a thread about unpopular opinions, right?  Hell, I encourage more people to distain Gamestop, as that's one less person who will grab a copy of a game I want before I get there. 
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 27, 2013, 09:48:42 am
but I figure if anyone here really wanted to wave their dick around, they'd go to GameFAQs.

You figure right, Insektmute :P

the community here is super nice. We just like to give each other some shit from time to time.

Truth!

Like I said earlier - I *like* Soera...I really do.

When I was just a wee-little nooblet here, he was always nice, friendly, and welcoming to me, he helped set-up a deal for me to get a sweet deal/price on a sealed copy of Suiko2, and, we've talked a lot through pm's, too...

Do I like/agree with his "Gamestop /=/ Gamer-Cred" thoughts?

Well...(hypothetical situation here)...

1).  Soera = "hardcore" gamer w/ mad skillz & tons of "gamer-cred",

2).  Disaster strikes :(

3).  Soera (in response to this disaster) has no choice but to sell his collection to a Gamestop  :'(

4).  Random person "X" buys each & every game that he sold there the following day -so-

according to Soera's theory...the new owner *OF THE EXACT SAME COLLECTION OF GAMES...is 'less-of-a-gamer'...because of *where* they bought the games  :o ::)

Well, then again, I've always had/been friends with mostly people who don't see things the exact same way that I do (I think that a band of sycophants -while maybe a novelty for a minute- would very quickly become stale & boring:)

Not only that, but, I was in a weird high school at a weird time where most of me & my friends had actually fought each other at various times...only to drunkenly make-up, hug, and laugh about it later that night :P
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kimimi on March 27, 2013, 10:13:25 am
Inspired by the hardcore/casual posts in the other topic:

People announcing themselves as hardcore gamers (outside of forum shenanigans) gets on my goat because:

A) "Hardcore" means vastly different things to different people, to the point where it's basically meaningless outside of whoever you usually hang out with.
B) The people making these declarations usually have two US Atlus RPGs and a box of cart-only Atari 2600 games they bought at a market to their name and think this makes them Lord/Lady Retrogamer of All Time For Eternity and Always.

(I know A kinda clashes with B but I'm a bit poorly so you'll have to forgive me that one)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 27, 2013, 10:18:16 am
Inspired by the hardcore/casual posts in the other topic:

The people making these declarations usually have two US Atlus RPGs and a box of cart-only Atari 2600 games they bought at a market to their name and think this makes them Lord/Lady Retrogamer of All Time For Eternity and Always.

Laugh...i...n...g

...t...o...o...

...har...d...

...at...

...the...

truth...an...d.

...hum...o...r...

...i...n...tha...t...p...o..s...t...

...to...

...pr...ope...erl...y...

r...e...p...l...y...

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Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 27, 2013, 10:35:55 am
I'm kind of confused.  Is "Hardcore Gamer" a good thing?  I don't think of myself as hardcore.  A lot of people might disagree with that after seeing the amount of shit that I own.  Playing games isn't that serious.  It's supposed to be fun.  To me (my opinion), if you're that serious about games; you have a problem.
I don't think I'll ever be considered Hardcore.  It seems like to be a hardcore gamer you have to be kind of like a hipster.  You can't like what is popular.  You have to love shit no one has ever heard of.  To be hardcore, you have to import Japanese games and learn the language just to play that RPG.  I'm not hardcore.  I like sports games and Mario.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 11:07:02 am
Good lord, I should have known that only my comments were going to be the unpopular ones. Sigh ....

I really dont even want to comment anymore. People always blow everything I say out of the water. Honestly I dont think that any comments to dispute anything in this thread should be allowed. They are unpopular gaming opinions.

Can we just delete this whole topic? Its actually making my time coming here reading this really disappointing.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 11:23:53 am
Possibly, but when you want to reduce a person's opinion/taste/whatever based upon where they shop and the genres they play (and engage in circular logic to tie them together and justify your opinion), you are clearly attempting to interject superiority over the person and their opinion/taste/whatever.

I don't know a lot of gamers here in Portland, partially because I'm a bit of a hermit, but among those I do, there's a consistent sense that a lot of them are just kinda going with what's marketed to them. They'll trumpet their opinions and the games they play, same as anyone, except it's clear that their habits are straight out of what sites like IGN and GameStop are shilling, and I consider every corporate-backed site to have questionable interests behind them.

I find it difficult to respect that kind of thing, and so when I find myself talking to these people, there are two things that tend to happen. One is that I try to help broaden their horizons, and sometimes that means coming off as a bit superior, but that can be a matter of perception too, since sometimes enthusiasm comes off as condescension. I'm glad these folks are gaming at all, but

The second thing that happens is I tend to stop after awhile and let them do as they do, because I'd rather talk to people with more similar sensibilities, which is arguably how I wound up on vgcollect to begin with.

Obviously, we don't all agree on everything, but as with soera, I like and respect just about everyone I've met here.

Which is really what it boils down to. If you're knowledgeable and experienced about something, it's can be difficult to talk to people who are less so without sounding condescending and superior, regardless of intent, and people who are on a similar wavelength tend to flock together... which is why I said if most of us here gave a crap about dick-waving, we'd go to GameFAQs. We come here instead, so it's generally not necessary.

This is way too SRS BSNS for 8:23am. More coffee buhhhh....


Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 11:33:11 am
Good lord, I should have known that only my comments were going to be the unpopular ones. Sigh ....

I really dont even want to comment anymore. People always blow everything I say out of the water. Honestly I dont think that any comments to dispute anything in this thread should be allowed. They are unpopular gaming opinions.

I wouldn't sweat it, really. I think most people that were like errwhat were maybe just seeking clarification? That's how I read it, anyway.

I happen to agree with you too, but work has been insane lately, so it's been tough to find time to post :p
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 11:59:26 am
But at the same time I seem to be alienating a lot of the people I actually talk to in here.

Ill touch on Disgaeniac's post. If it got to the point where I had to sell all my games, I think they would only actually consider buying my PS3/Wii titles. Cause everything else is considered too old for them. Which is exactly my point. Gamestop (to me) is not a game store ... its a current gen trend store.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 12:06:34 pm
The Hot Topic of video games? :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 12:08:04 pm
That about sums it up. :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on March 27, 2013, 12:08:48 pm
But at the same time I seem to be alienating a lot of the people I actually talk to in here.

No worries, man - it would take a lot more than one differing thought/idea/opinion for ya' to alienate or piss me off, brother  8)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 27, 2013, 12:19:34 pm
Ya, my apologies, as I already said in PM. I've been on edge for a bit and the last couple days have been a bit more than usual.

I'll be glad when work slows down to normal pace, and I'm moved into this house.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 27, 2013, 12:27:15 pm
Good lord, I should have known that only my comments were going to be the unpopular ones. Sigh ....

I really dont even want to comment anymore. People always blow everything I say out of the water. Honestly I dont think that any comments to dispute anything in this thread should be allowed. They are unpopular gaming opinions.

Can we just delete this whole topic? Its actually making my time coming here reading this really disappointing.

Actually, you ended up starting a discussion. You should be proud!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 12:34:05 pm
I guess so!  :o
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 27, 2013, 01:44:57 pm
I'm still pissed. I don't know why.  I'm just pissed  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 01:58:44 pm
How can you be? Look at the latest addition to your collection!!!! :D
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: scott on March 27, 2013, 02:06:38 pm
Ohhh, can we make fun of Turf now? Canwecanwecanwe?
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 02:09:42 pm
Thats a given ... I dont think we need permission. :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 27, 2013, 02:36:36 pm
How can you be? Look at the latest addition to your collection!!!! :D

I'd be pissed too if I overpaid for Earthbound :)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on March 27, 2013, 03:31:50 pm
Take your shots fellas. I didn't pay a dime for Earthbound. My wife has her own checking account. It was her money.  Now grab your pitchforks and torches.

Edit:  soera, where the hell did you find Ms. Pac-Man?  If you tell me a storage locker, I'm going to drive to OK and rob your ass.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 03:39:14 pm
Storage locker. It also had a few other games like Stadium events and Air raid but they suck so I tossed em.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: tpugmire on March 27, 2013, 04:35:57 pm
That's funny, just last week I made the comparison of GameStop to Hot Topic, when asked why I drive all the way across town to go to a particular game store, when there is a GameStop less than a block from my house.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: denniedarko on March 27, 2013, 04:58:13 pm
I think I am one of the few, (maybe only), that feels that Dragon Age II was better then Origins in every way.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on March 27, 2013, 04:58:27 pm
Why is Hot Topic a bad place?  ???

I can get all kinds of awesome metal t-shirts, gaming t-shirts, comic books t-shirts, metal posters, and CDs that are hard to find outside of the internet. And I can get all my piercing jewelry there. I even found a real metal Green Lantern ring there! (rather than plastic Crackerjack box ring)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: doctorlaudanum on March 27, 2013, 05:31:54 pm
Oh goodness. What have I walked into? My noobish self has this to say:

- I despise Resident Evil 1 and 2. Just about everything about them: the camera angles, the controls, the characters, the graphics, the story. I don't think they're scary in the slightest, and they are actually a chore to play through for me.
- I think Silent Hill 2 is overrated. Don't get me wrong, I love the characters, the plot and the music, but I always thought the original Silent Hill was so much better, if not the best one in the series. Also, it isn't scary. Not at all. The same could be said for Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem.
- I want to hit whoever decided to place the cable connecting the Dreamcast controller to the Dreamcast console on the bottom of the controller over the head with a two by four. Seriously, who thought that would be a good idea?
- The Gamecube had the best controller of all time. OF ALL TIME. It was comfortable and the buttons took forever and a day to wear out.
- I don't like a lot of cartridge games, despite having grown up on the N64.
- On the flip side, I don't like digital downloads. Maybe I just like having physical copies to satisfy my collector's drive. This is pretty much the only reason I imported a physical copy of Siren Blood Curse from the UK instead of buying it on the PSN.
- Despite being terrible at shooters, I don't think the Call of Duty games are bad at all. I actually kind of liked the original Black Ops.
- I don't think the Angry Video Game Nerd is all that funny.
- I hate it when people say that casual gaming is ruining gamer culture. What the hell do you guys think arcade and Atari games were?
- The Tales series will always be better than the Final Fantasy series.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 05:40:09 pm
I never was able to cope with RE2's controls. Loved the story and characters, and watched a friend blast through the whole thing in an evening, but I make it about 20 minutes before I give up in frustration. I still want to give the GameCube version a go one of these days, though.

SH2 was good, but definitely overrated. I always thought Fatal Frame II was one of the absolute best examples of survival horror, but people seem to habitually gloss over that series in favor of the Silent Hill vs. Resident Evil debate.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: doctorlaudanum on March 27, 2013, 05:55:20 pm
I always thought Fatal Frame II was one of the absolute best examples of survival horror, but people seem to habitually gloss over that series in favor of the Silent Hill vs. Resident Evil debate.

I like you. ;D

Siren is currently my favorite horror game of all time, but the Fatal Frame series is pretty high up there, particularly the second one. While I thought it was much too easy, even on the hardest difficulty, II had some of the best atmosphere I'd seen in a game in a long time. I just wish the English voice acting was a little stronger. The horror of the situation dissipated a bit for me the second Itsuki opened his mouth.

The Gamecube version of RE is a bit better and delivers more on the scares, but I could never get used to the controls. Can't tell you how many times I've had my throat torn out by a zombie while trying to leave a room and getting stuck in a wall instead.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 06:00:03 pm
Haha, I like that you're playing Nier. That game is hideously addicting!

I have less experience with Siren, but like you, imported a physical copy of Blood Curse. Excellent stuff, though the episodic nature sometimes kills the momentum for me. I'm just glad I was able to get it on disc, because trying to download that whole thing would've driven me up the wall.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on March 27, 2013, 06:00:31 pm
Why is Hot Topic a bad place?  ???

I can get all kinds of awesome metal t-shirts, gaming t-shirts, comic books t-shirts, metal posters, and CDs that are hard to find outside of the internet. And I can get all my piercing jewelry there. I even found a real metal Green Lantern ring there! (rather than plastic Crackerjack box ring)

Hot Topic isnt a bad place ... but they are not what they used to be. I buy my piercing stuff there too sometimes. They do sell a lot of stuff I like ... but lately when you walk in there, its not just a metal/grunge/goth store anymore. You find just as much rap shit on the shelves, Beiber junk everywhere, etc. I will say, however, that the name of the place seems to fit now. Everything they try to sell seems to be whats a hot topic, not just a specialty store like in the early days.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: denniedarko on March 27, 2013, 06:08:36 pm
I shopped at Hot Topic several years ago, but haven't been in quite awhile. Now all I think about when I hear Hot Topic is that South Park episode.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions? survival horror
Post by: htimreimer on March 27, 2013, 06:09:15 pm
I never was able to cope with RE2's controls. Loved the story and characters, and watched a friend blast through the whole thing in an evening, but I make it about 20 minutes before I give up in frustration. I still want to give the GameCube version a go one of these days, though.

SH2 was good, but definitely overrated. I always thought Fatal Frame II was one of the absolute best examples of survival horror, but people seem to habitually gloss over that series in favor of the Silent Hill vs. Resident Evil debate.
i'm surprise that no one ever talks about system shock or system shock 2 when it comes to survival horror, these are some of the best examples out there
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: sin2beta on March 27, 2013, 06:11:02 pm
- I don't like a lot of cartridge games, since having grown up on the N64.

FIFY
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: doctorlaudanum on March 27, 2013, 06:21:23 pm
Haha, I like that you're playing Nier. That game is hideously addicting!

I have less experience with Siren, but like you, imported a physical copy of Blood Curse. Excellent stuff, though the episodic nature sometimes kills the momentum for me. I'm just glad I was able to get it on disc, because trying to download that whole thing would've driven me up the wall.

Oh man. If Siren is my favorite horror game of all time, Nier is my favorite game of all time. I could go on and on about that game. I love it so much that I went out of my way to import Replicant, despite the fact that the middle-aged protagonist in Gestalt is what caught my interest in the first place. And that my Japanese is... poor. But I digress. I thought having an older character as the protagonist in a JRPG was very refreshing, and I'm still blown away by just how  likeable the main characters are. Yeah, the gameplay, while solid, wasn't anything to write home about, and the graphics could've used a little polish, but I about lost my mind when my 360 ate my original disc and I had to wait a couple of weeks for a new copy to arrive in the mail. The soundtrack also kicks so much ass.

Ahem.

While I did like them quite a lot, I always thought the Siren sequels were inferior to the original. I think the absolutely brutal difficulty of that game is what made it so scary for me. I'm also a big fan of out-of-order storytelling. I like putting my two brain cells to use and putting the pieces together on my own. But I definitely agree with you when you say that the episodic nature of Blood Curse did slow the momentum. All the more reason to buy the physical copy, I guess.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions? survival horror
Post by: doctorlaudanum on March 27, 2013, 06:27:17 pm
I never was able to cope with RE2's controls. Loved the story and characters, and watched a friend blast through the whole thing in an evening, but I make it about 20 minutes before I give up in frustration. I still want to give the GameCube version a go one of these days, though.

SH2 was good, but definitely overrated. I always thought Fatal Frame II was one of the absolute best examples of survival horror, but people seem to habitually gloss over that series in favor of the Silent Hill vs. Resident Evil debate.
i'm surprise that no one ever talks about system shock or system shock 2 when it comes to survival horror, these are some of the best examples out there

I still haven't gotten around to playing the original SS, but I really liked SS2 a lot. Those Cyborg Midwives get me every time. Unfortunately, I have a PC that implodes on itself if you load anything more complicated than Solitaire, so I'm missing out on quite a few horror musts. I still haven't been able to finish Amnesia because my comp likes to freeze up at the worst possible time. It's pretty sad that my ancient computer could handle SS2 better than my shiny new one can. I'm also awful at first person shooters.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: doctorlaudanum on March 27, 2013, 06:34:12 pm
- I don't like a lot of cartridge games, since having grown up on the N64.

FIFY

This cannot end well. I laughed anyway.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: htimreimer on March 27, 2013, 06:48:12 pm
I never was able to cope with RE2's controls. Loved the story and characters, and watched a friend blast through the whole thing in an evening, but I make it about 20 minutes before I give up in frustration. I still want to give the GameCube version a go one of these days, though.

SH2 was good, but definitely overrated. I always thought Fatal Frame II was one of the absolute best examples of survival horror, but people seem to habitually gloss over that series in favor of the Silent Hill vs. Resident Evil debate.
i'm surprise that no one ever talks about system shock or system shock 2 when it comes to survival horror, these are some of the best examples out there

I still haven't gotten around to playing the original SS, but I really liked SS2 a lot. Those Cyborg Midwives get me every time. Unfortunately, I have a PC that implodes on itself if you load anything more complicated than Solitaire, so I'm missing out on quite a few horror musts. I still haven't been able to finish Amnesia because my comp likes to freeze up at the worst possible time. It's pretty sad that my ancient computer could handle SS2 better than my shiny new one can. I'm also awful at first person shooters.
its not much of a fps, ss2 is a hybrid of many different genres, for an example, its a stealth game because it is possible hide and sneak from the enemies because they react to sounds and visual cues, its all about playing with its rpg system
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions? survival horror
Post by: insektmute on March 27, 2013, 06:57:02 pm
i'm surprise that no one ever talks about system shock or system shock 2 when it comes to survival horror, these are some of the best examples out there

I've brought it up at least once or twice in other threads. SS2 is easily among the best games ever made, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions? survival horror
Post by: darko on March 27, 2013, 11:06:14 pm
i'm surprise that no one ever talks about system shock or system shock 2 when it comes to survival horror, these are some of the best examples out there

I've brought it up at least once or twice in other threads. SS2 is easily among the best games ever made, as far as I'm concerned.

Survival Horror is my favorite genre and to be completely honest, I've never played either title. IDK why, exactly. I just never remember they're out there!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: darko on March 27, 2013, 11:13:18 pm
Oh goodness. What have I walked into? My noobish self has this to say:

- I despise Resident Evil 1 and 2. Just about everything about them: the camera angles, the controls,..., the graphics...
- I think Silent Hill 2 is overrated. Don't get me wrong, I love the characters, the plot and the music, but I always thought the original Silent Hill was so much better, if not the best one in the series...

I'm not disagreeing...just thought it was funny :)

Welcome to the site!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: brunauss on March 29, 2013, 04:52:16 pm
Mine are more business and technology related and also the driving forces behind my ambitious idea to eventually to it all myself.

#1 The area of beta testing needs to use the Bungie template as a strict guide and not deviate from it. Only improve. Beta testers should not be afraid to be outright brutal with their criticisms, so long as they know what they are talking about.
#2 Nintendo really REALLY needs to get over its identity crisis and choose either kids or core gamers. They clearly are no longer capable of addressing both needs without shorting one of them.
#3 Now that Euclidean has shown us that true virtual 3D matter is possible in a environment and it is also possible to translate polygon to digital matter, can we please PLEASE see a move in this direction at the end of the PS4 lifespan. That is where my personal project is already looking.
#4 Consoles really need to evolve at the core hardware and take what has been done with PlayStation 4 and make it scalable technology. In other words, make that computer core removable and a fully functional portable system itself already. If I can see the technology is there, then so can all these R&D people.
#5 "Behold a new Windows operating system." No its NOT. to this day Windows cannot run without DOS being the middle man. Make a clean break already and truly create a whole new operating system and stop saying its new cutting edge technology. Same goes for Xbox. You people had something with the first one and didn't bother to build on that. Instead Xbox software is now stuck in the same rut as Windows.

I think that be it for the moment. Oh look mangled bloody bodies everywhere *shrugs*
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: starbronze21 on April 02, 2013, 12:55:59 am
Oh goodness. What have I walked into? My noobish self has this to say:
- I don't like a lot of cartridge games, despite having grown up on the N64.
- I don't think the Angry Video Game Nerd is all that funny.

Oh my dear friend, you poor soul. Even tho I agree with everything there
EXCEPT FOR THE CARTRAGE COMMENT, Carts are my bread and butter and i do love them. :)
And the AVGN comment, he's the reason I got interested in retro games, he caught my eye and showed me the wonders :)

Also here's my take on this thread,

I actually think ET for Atari 2600 isn't that bad of a game, there I said it. :/
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 01:14:23 pm
I mostly hate the JRPG stereotypes that have dominated the genre. I hate super-cuticized characters. I hate overly complicated political storylines (especially when those complicated storylines don't mirror the real government at all). I hate games that have random battles every 2 seconds. And I'm not a fan of Atlus or the Final Fantasy series (at least not since FF turned into a love-story-fest).

A JRPG has to have a really good story, or some sort of unique gameplay hook for me to really like it.

As much as a "hardcore" collector and gamer that I am; you'd think I'd be all about the JRPGs like most gamers.

Don't get me wrong, though, I don't hate them all. I still have a handful of favorites: Dragon Warrior IV, Chrono Trigger, Legend of Legaia, Golden Sun.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: badATchaos on April 08, 2014, 02:03:00 pm
The Bioshock and Halo series are extremely over rated. There was nothing original from either franchise that makes them a must play.

Not sure if the next item is an unpopular opinion or not because there's a lot of people who hate COD but....
COD as ruined a generation of FPS gamers. It trained players to want continuous rewards and now when they go play another FPSs they dislike them basically because they're not COD/Battlefield consistently spoon feeding them. Now I can't play a online FPS like Team Fortress 2 or Red Orchestra 2 without someone b****ing about the game not being fast enough, no/slow unlock system, no kill streaks, unable to win, et cetera.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 02:10:16 pm
^I LOVE the Halo series. Such a cool sci-fi setting and epic sci-fi story running through those. Halo 2 is especially satisfying for the epic thrill-ride story you get out of it. And it always had great production values including the unforgettable music.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on April 08, 2014, 02:17:40 pm
The gaming..."community" is a funny & fickle thing since "hipsters" & 'Followers' very often will try to jump on the nearest bandwagon, to make someting unpopular popular and/or try to trash something popular, just 'cuz - you know...it's popular  :o

Surely it's no coincidence that you can't make a "FANatic" w/o a "FAN"  :D

One of the funniest sigs that I've seen recently was (something to the effect of):

"If you really wan't to become disillusioned with & lose interest + respect for ANY one of your favorite games/series ==> simply spend some time socializing with & getting to know that "community's" fan-base...you won't need to spend much time reading, seeing, & listening to them...to never want to be around and/or associated with any of them ever again"   :P
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: badATchaos on April 08, 2014, 02:23:23 pm
GameCube: a sexy system or the sexiest system?
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: argyle on April 08, 2014, 03:06:38 pm
First, let me say I really dislike the terms "underrated" and "overrated" because frankly, they're meaningless.  People use them as if there's some metric you can use to scientifically show something is one or the other.  All it means when you say something is overrrated is "I don't like this thing as much as the majority".  Which is fine, but just say that instead, it sounds less...arrogant.  ;) 

BTW, I believe Bioshock is the greatest new franchise this generation and could expound for hours on why I believe that, but to each their own.  ;D

I also wouldn't say the majority of gamers like JRPGs - they are very niche (just look at the sales numbers) and I'd say they're even moreso now than they were 10 years ago.  JRPG fans are vocal, that's all.

Now here's a few cases where I differ from the majority:

I hate The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.  It feels absolutely lifeless to me - and this isn't a case of the game being dated, I felt the same when it first came out.  Was a huge disappointment to me after LttP.  Majora's Mask is by far the best Zelda on the N64. 

I also dislike Mario 64.  The constant cycle of being kicked out of a world just to have to go back into it really turns me off.  I felt Spyro was a far superior series at the time.

Not to just pick on Nintendo & sound like a Sony fanboy - I absolutely hate Shadow of the Colossus.  Extremely boring game IMO, just boss fights & empty areas make it feel like a half-finished game to me.  ICO I loved, SotC I can do without. 

I really tend to dislike "artsy" games - Journey and Limbo are two good examples of this, I didn't "get" either one of them.  I enjoyed the gameplay in Braid, but thought the story was hipster rubbish that was completely unnecessary. 

Final Fantasy VIII is the best FF on the PSOne.  Deal with it.  :P

Chaos Legion is an incredible game that you probably didn't play but should have.

Deadly Premonition isn't good, and it isn't "so bad it's good" - when it comes to games, there's no such thing.  It's just plain bad. 

The 3D Ninja Gaiden games are wanna-be Devil May Cry's - and they're not as good.

The same goes for God of War. 

Coke is far superior to Pepsi, but Mt. Dew is way better than Mellow Yellow. 

People who put salt on fruit are communists.  Don't turn your back on them.

:)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: instantreplay on April 08, 2014, 03:24:24 pm
-Xbox 360 is one of the worst consoles ever made
-Call of Duty is garbage
-Halo franchise has gone down hill since it started trying to be like Call of Duty
-Heavy Rain, Indigo Prophecy, and Beyond: Two Souls are bad and anyone who likes them should be ashamed of themselves
-Halo 4 was laughably bad
-Pokemon is a game for babies
-Dishonored was one of the most boring and disappointing games I've ever played.
-2D fighting games are obsolete
-Minecraft is boring
-Goat Simulator is fun for the first 45 minutes (its boring after that)
-I don't understand why people like the legend of Zelda franchise so much. How can people say the legend of Zelda games are "amazing" when the protagonist lacks any kind of character development?
-Half Life 2 is overrated
-"unlockable" items in multiplayer games are a gimmeck and are a really lazy way to get people to keep playing a game
-Bad Company 2 will always be the best FPS multiplayer game to me
-Left 4 Dead is simply a hallway shooter with random spawning. This does not mean it has high replay value nor does it mean it is good.
-Bioshock Infinite is pretentious
-I enjoyed lost planet 1 & 2
-People who are impressed by good graphics are idiots.
-The ending to Mass Effect 3 isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I'm not saying its good, I'm saying that most people are just butt hurt fanboys who need to calm down.
-Grand Theft Auto 5 isn't a good game. It's just a bunch of assholes doing stuff.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on April 08, 2014, 03:29:10 pm
I really loved this thread.  I went back and re-read the whole thing.  Soera really pissed some folks off with his opinions.  That was good times. 

Glad to see this one come back from the dead.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: instantreplay on April 08, 2014, 03:49:52 pm
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
The Xbox 360 is a huge pile of crap.  Microsoft needs to stick to computer stuff and get the hell out of the console gaming business.

Ummm, no.

1) Most of my PS2, 360, PS3, & PSP titles have come from GS. B2G1 free? Yes please.

2) The 360 is a fantastic console with the best online experience for any console to date. It also has the best controller I've ever used. Most of the multi-platform titles released on the 360 and PS3 are better on the 360 as most of them are actually designed to run on the 360 first. This isn't true of every game, but I would bet that over 50% of them fit into this category. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had an issue with either of my 360s. I've been gaming for a long time and there's a reason I have over 100 360 games and 36 PS3 games. I don't hate the PS3 at all, it's also a great console. However, Microsoft absolutely nailed it with the 360 and I'm hoping that their next console can do the same thing.

It's fun to hate on the big boys until you consider the facts :)

Some very serious problems with what you said.

1) The xbox 360 had an atrocious failure rate. Microsoft reported that 30% of their consoles  failed within 3 years but in actuality it was much higher. Many people didn't bother with the replacement process because it was so slow and cumbersome. Personally, I said screw it and just bought another 360 because I didn't want to wait 2 months to get a new one.

2) The multiplayer experience was better BECAUSE YOU PAID FOR IT! the PS3 may not have had better multiplayer support BUT IT WAS FREE!

3) Yes, many games are better on the 360, but that does not mean the 360 is better console. The fact that Bethesda said it wasn't going to patch Skyrim on the PS3 does not mean the 360 is better.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 03:59:01 pm
hate The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.  It feels absolutely lifeless to me - and this isn't a case of the game being dated, I felt the same when it first came out.  Was a huge disappointment to me after LttP.  Majora's Mask is by far the best Zelda on the N64. 

I also dislike Mario 64.  The constant cycle of being kicked out of a world just to have to go back into it really turns me off.  I felt Spyro was a far superior series at the time.

Me too. And before the N64 (and after in some cases), I was a HUGE Mario and Zelda fan.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on April 08, 2014, 04:22:57 pm
I really loved this thread.
Glad to see this one come back from the dead.

Me too!

These are the kinds of topics & discussions that, IMO, really make the site & (most of:) the community here stand head & shoulders above many other 'popular'/'common' Gaming sites.

- All sites are made up of humans

- All of us humans can have good & bad days...sometimes being saints/sometimes being ass-holes,

- All sites (thanks to *Anonymity*) have people saying things that they'd never say to a person irl,

- Most sites & gamers have strong opinions,

(quick math equation):  strong opinions + anonymity * teens/immaturity / no consequences for anything that's said or done = the petty bickering, arguing, flame wars, etc, etc, etc that are rampant on sites & boards everywhere.

- What's different (and most refreshing) about VGC is not that we have any shortage of strong, vocal & *OPPOSING/DIFFERING* opinions - given by people on both their good days (saints) and bad ones (ass-holes); so, there's arguments & disagreements *BUT* (thank God!) there's a maturity level & a friendship level here that makes it so that we can all disagree, voice our different opinions, get mad, curse, blow off steam, -and- at the end of the day...realize that that's all it is ==> and remain close friends who think different ways, lose their temper, bitch, moan, and argue with each other W/O being thin-skinned enough to take it personally.

TL;DR

(Just like family), we may argue, bitch, and curse each other out -but- when it's all over...everyone's still friends that like & respect each other  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 04:32:35 pm
If over 50% of your games come from gamestop, you can not consider yourself a gamer.
Not that I'm judging, I'm just wondering why you think that.

I've bought sooooo many PS2, Wii, and Xbox 360 games at GameStop. When you buy those used, that's usually the cheapest place to get them.

When they were FuncoLand back in the day, I bought a TON of NES games through them as well.

And I think at 817 items in my collection, and 25+ years of gaming, I can call myself a true gamer.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: argyle on April 08, 2014, 04:40:51 pm
I think some people just don't know the suckage of living in a place where GS is your best option.  If I'm going to a b&m store for games it's either Gamestop, Wal-Mart, Best Buy or Target.  That's pretty much it.  Otherwise I'm ordering online. 

And from my experience, your local GS is as good or bad as the people who manage it & work there.  Luckily the one I frequent is staffed by some very cool people (one of the guys loves to talk niche JRPGs with me when I stop by) and I know the DM since he was a register jocky at GS years ago and he's a really cool guy too.  I've certainly BEEN to bad Gamestop's, and if that's all there is in your area I can certainly understand why you'd hate them. 
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Warmsignal on April 08, 2014, 04:50:26 pm
- Nintendo is doin' just fine, and I don't care if they ever change their ways.
- GameStop is a pretty cool chain that actually understands what they're doing in the games business unlike most of it's competitors.
- I don't care for tactical strategy RPGs (few exceptions), and I hate when they try to sell them on having "story lines" like other games that are actually fun.
- I think they should stop producing physical copies of games like Madden, and just offer subscriptions to the new updates as downloads for sports fans. Outdated sports games could almost count as pollution, and excessive waste of materials.
- Fanboys often ruin the appeal of certain franchise/publisher/developers for me. There is no such thing as an infallible game, or publisher.
- I want my darn old fashioned consoles and hard copy games that I own and have control over, and I don't ever want that to change to a click or tap on a screen controlled by some remote server. I'm looking at you Steam and PlayStation Now.
- The term "hardcore gamer" is reserved for people who have very well rounded taste in games. Not so much somebody of obsessively plays the same game or the same type of games over and over, that's more like fanboy/addiction to me.
- Gamers who hold sky high standards towards every new experience, and trash most any underdog game or accuse it of being an unworthy clone of something superior. To these gamers something is either incredibly awesome or it's the most terrible thing ever.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 08, 2014, 05:06:52 pm
I buy pretty much everything new from Gamestop, they are just convenient and have the best game supply lol Some of their practices are annoying and shitty, but I have no serious issue with them.

For me, my probably unpopular gaming opinion would be that I think all Resident Evil games before RE4 are terrible to play.  Those tank controls were miserable, I hated the static camera, and while I enjoyed the setting and played nearly every one, I could only manage to beat I think RE3 and Dead Aim, of which Dead Aim is a light gun game lol.  The rest of the time I just got annoyed with the shitty controls.  None of them even remotely compare to RE4 for me.  I appreciate their place in the gaming lexicon, but I'd rather play pretty much any of the newer RE games than go play those ones...maybe even RE6, but I'm not committing to that, because that one was pretty bad lol
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: instantreplay on April 08, 2014, 06:27:19 pm
- I think they should stop producing physical copies of games like Madden, and just offer subscriptions to the new updates as downloads for sports fans. Outdated sports games could almost count as pollution, and excessive waste of materials.

That's one of the smartest things I've ever heard someone say about the video game industry. I'm not being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 07:11:58 pm
- Nintendo is doin' just fine, and I don't care if they ever change their ways.

Funny you mention this one. I just read today on a Facebook link that Nintendo's new logo intended for mobile apps has leaked. (Of course I can't find it, now.)

If Nintendo is thinking about mobile apps, that means they no longer care about exclusives. And if that's the case, than it's very likely Nintendo is thinking about abandoning the console model.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 08, 2014, 07:31:00 pm
- Nintendo is doin' just fine, and I don't care if they ever change their ways.

Funny you mention this one. I just read today on a Facebook link that Nintendo's new logo intended for mobile apps has leaked. (Of course I can't find it, now.)

If Nintendo is thinking about mobile apps, that means they no longer care about exclusives. And if that's the case, than it's very likely Nintendo is thinking about abandoning the console model.

I thought they completely dismissed that idea, because it was absolutely terrible for them in the long run if their stuff loses exclusivity.  Nintendo isn't the kind of company that goes for the quick buck route, they play the long game.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Warmsignal on April 08, 2014, 07:39:32 pm
- Nintendo is doin' just fine, and I don't care if they ever change their ways.

Funny you mention this one. I just read today on a Facebook link that Nintendo's new logo intended for mobile apps has leaked. (Of course I can't find it, now.)

If Nintendo is thinking about mobile apps, that means they no longer care about exclusives. And if that's the case, than it's very likely Nintendo is thinking about abandoning the console model.

Or they could just create these new exclusive apps for mobile, I think they want to branch out to reach more casual consumers if they can. The Wii U will run a full course this gen, the doomsayers can believe what they want. Nintendo would never outright abandon anything, I think they're a lot smarter than that. They don't want to be the next Sega as far as consumer/investor confidence, and they aren't in any position that would force them to be. People talk like Nintendo is tanking, but they've got a good thing going and I don't see them cannibalizing that.  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 08, 2014, 08:29:27 pm
Not to turn this into a Nintendo thread (Maybe we should open one to discuss the state of Nintendo), but it's said that Nintendo has enough money in the bank, that they could operate at a loss of millions for like 30 years and still stay in business lol

Maybe that's an unpopular opinion in there...I'm sure lots of non-Nintendo fans and those who don't want to buy a Wii U would love to see Nintendo bring some stuff Mobile.  They'd never go full mobile, but I could see them doing ports of their classic games.  I think this would be a terrible idea. 

Exclusive games can be frustrating at times, there's stuff I'm gonna want on the PS4 and Xbone some day for sure, but I'm not gonna buy them for that, same goes for Nintendo and other players, but if Nintendo loses that exclusivity, they lose the one thing that makes them enticing.  When you buy a Nintendo console, you get all the exclusives and great titles and back catalog they come with.  Sure, their third party games are waning abit, mostly just in multi-platform titles (Only a bad thing when you don't have multiple systems which it would be good to eventually go like Wii U + PS4).  Not too mention, them going to mobile hurts their handheld aspect.  Plus we know that gaming on mobile phones is pretty crappy.  If it involves anything more than a "tap", it's not very good, though I could see a runner game made with Mario for a buck, where he moves on his own and you just do nothing but tap to avoid pits, enemies, and attack blocks, sell that for a buck, but no serious games for sure.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 08, 2014, 08:40:12 pm
I'm not a Nintendo hater. One look at my collection can confirm that. I was just passing along what I read. I'd hate for Nintendo to drop out of the home-console business, but the evidence keeps mounting.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: turf on April 08, 2014, 09:49:49 pm
I thought they already confirmed they were going to do mobile stuff to try to draw attention to the 3DS and WiiU? :o
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: redblaze57 on April 08, 2014, 09:58:24 pm
I thought they already confirmed they were going to do mobile stuff to try to draw attention to the 3DS and WiiU? :o

I thought so. I also thought they said that they weren't going to be porting over any of their games to phones
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: soera on April 08, 2014, 10:29:54 pm
I really loved this thread.  I went back and re-read the whole thing.  Soera really pissed some folks off with his opinions.  That was good times. 

Glad to see this one come back from the dead.

Lol apparently my opinion is still striking nerves haha.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: sin2beta on April 08, 2014, 10:43:50 pm
I liked this thread too!

Here is my new unpopular opinion: It is time for distribution to go digital. I will still buy physical over digital. But, I'm starting to realize that it is because I don't want to accept what I want. When the rumors that the nextgen consoles being digital only turned out to be false... I was kind of disappointed. And after spending time with an XBox One and PS4, it was made clear that optical drives are meaningless.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 08, 2014, 11:30:16 pm
I liked this thread too!

Here is my new unpopular opinion: It is time for distribution to go digital. I will still buy physical over digital. But, I'm starting to realize that it is because I don't want to accept what I want. When the rumors that the nextgen consoles being digital only turned out to be false... I was kind of disappointed. And after spending time with an XBox One and PS4, it was made clear that optical drives are meaningless.

I generally like digital distribution, but I'd rather there continue to be both.  For those that want it, they have physical versions which matter more with a console experience usually.  I got use to digital stuff on PC because it was nicer to use steam than to keep having to dig for my cd's in a case and input the serial keys every time. I'm coming out of the digital aspect now though as I want a collection of games, so I'm only gonna buy digital games if I'm getting something on a great steam sale.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: disgaeniac on April 09, 2014, 07:41:20 am
Physical FTW...Forever!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: argyle on April 09, 2014, 09:06:03 am
Occasionally they'll run a really good deal on a digital copy of a game on PSN and I'll bite.  Then inevitably a few months later I'll start wishing I actually had the physical copy instead, and I'll usually end up rebuying the game.  :P  So I think I'm *starting* to learn my lesson - I'm not really saving money in the long run.  ;)

There are occasional exceptions - I'll have to get 2 copies of ESO, for example, because my wife wants to play as well so one of those (mine :P) will be the CE and the other (hers) will be digital.  As long as I have one physical copy, I'm good.  ;) 
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: bobster on April 09, 2014, 09:12:10 am
*Snip*

Coke is far superior to Pepsi, but Mt. Dew is way better than Mellow Yellow. 

*Snip*
Heresy!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: argyle on April 09, 2014, 09:33:36 am
*Snip*

Coke is far superior to Pepsi, but Mt. Dew is way better than Mellow Yellow. 

*Snip*
Heresy!

You think THAT'S controversial, I also fully believe that Mr. Pibb is so much better than Dr. Pepper that it's not even remotely close.  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: bobster on April 09, 2014, 09:39:46 am
*Snip*

Coke is far superior to Pepsi, but Mt. Dew is way better than Mellow Yellow. 

*Snip*
Heresy!

You think THAT'S controversial, I also fully believe that Mr. Pibb is so much better than Dr. Pepper that it's not even remotely close.  ;)
That we can agree on :D. Pibb for life!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: argyle on April 09, 2014, 09:58:06 am
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U7-Erf3rgDI/U0VRwZz4-LI/AAAAAAAAGTQ/TKv_Jp86XCc/w680-h510-no/mr+pibb.png)

;D
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Bwigdahl on April 10, 2014, 05:34:11 pm
This was probably on someone else's list, but I had a hell of a lot of fun playing Sonic '06.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 10, 2014, 08:20:40 pm
This was probably on someone else's list, but I had a hell of a lot of fun playing Sonic '06.

And you dare to have a JonTron picture for your avatar! BLASPHEMY! lol
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: foxhack on April 10, 2014, 09:33:27 pm
This was probably on someone else's list, but I had a hell of a lot of fun playing Sonic '06.

And you dare to have a JonTron picture for your avatar! BLASPHEMY! lol

I'm so sad I'll never get to experience Sonic '06.

Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: pacpix on April 10, 2014, 11:03:53 pm
I don't watch much Game Grumps anymore, but their Sonic '06 playthrough was hilarious!
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 10, 2014, 11:37:50 pm
I don't watch much Game Grumps anymore, but their Sonic '06 playthrough was hilarious!

That game is such garbage lol
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Bwigdahl on April 10, 2014, 11:46:41 pm
This was probably on someone else's list, but I had a hell of a lot of fun playing Sonic '06.

And you dare to have a JonTron picture for your avatar! BLASPHEMY! lol

They were the reason I even went out looking for it lol. The game is only fun when playing with someone (share the love). But the experience of beating a level that seriously feels so broken that it's as if you weren't supposed to beat it is such an interesting feeling of triumph. Don't get me wrong, it is an absolutely horrible game in every way, but fun can still be had with the right people and in the right mood.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 10, 2014, 11:53:08 pm
Except for a few select must-haves, the Game Boy, while innovative, was a terrible handheld.

The screen was horrible. I remember as a kid you'd have to have it angled just right, and in just the right light to play it well. And even then, there was still faded backgrounds and lots of screen blur when there was fast-motion going on in the game.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Bwigdahl on April 10, 2014, 11:57:21 pm
Except for a few select must-haves, the Game Boy, while innovative, was a terrible handheld.

The screen was horrible. I remember as a kid you'd have to have it angled just right, and in just the right light to play it well. And even then, there was still faded backgrounds and lots of screen blur when there was fast-motion going on in the game.


I'm glad I have no nostalgia for that handheld, lol. aside from the pokemon games I don't think I've played many other original game boy games. Never even owned a handheld before the GBA and I don't ever really intend to go back to it. I think the only reason I'd ever own an original game boy would be to use it as a decoration since it is fairly iconic in appearance.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: burningdoom on April 11, 2014, 12:07:23 am
Except for a few select must-haves, the Game Boy, while innovative, was a terrible handheld.

The screen was horrible. I remember as a kid you'd have to have it angled just right, and in just the right light to play it well. And even then, there was still faded backgrounds and lots of screen blur when there was fast-motion going on in the game.


I'm glad I have no nostalgia for that handheld, lol. aside from the pokemon games I don't think I've played many other original game boy games. Never even owned a handheld before the GBA and I don't ever really intend to go back to it. I think the only reason I'd ever own an original game boy would be to use it as a decoration since it is fairly iconic in appearance.

I still have mine, but I haven't touched it in years. Why should I? Since then the Super Game Boy, GBA-SP, and Game Boy Player have all come out and are all way better options; even the Game Boy Color is a bit of an upgrade despite not being backlit.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: foxhack on April 11, 2014, 12:08:55 am
Allright, here I go:

I love the GBA, but whoever chose the sound chip for the system needs to have his kneecaps broken. It's HORRIBLE. A lot of games' audio suffered because of it.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: htimreimer on April 11, 2014, 12:58:09 am
most games from the 7th generation are ugly, things have gone more shiny and detail but so much of looks the same, the same muted color palette and the same trying to hard to be realistic, whatever happened to exaggerate character models that isn't just big muscles or big boobs, whatever happened to environments that are not even close to ones that we have on earth.

i play games for fantasy not for reality but it seems like game developers and publishers now a days, wants to make evarything familiar to us
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: Bwigdahl on April 11, 2014, 01:22:59 am
most games from the 7th generation are ugly, things have gone more shiny and detail but so much of looks the same, the same muted color palette and the same trying to hard to be realistic, whatever happened to exaggerate character models that isn't just big muscles or big boobs, whatever happened to environments that are not even close to ones that we have on earth.

i play games for fantasy not for reality but it seems like game developers and publishers now a days, wants to make evarything familiar to us

This is why I love Nintendo so much.
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: MJMaranan on April 11, 2014, 01:35:07 am
Aside from handhelds, I never enjoyed Nintendo consoles as much as others have until the GameCube.  Then I lost faith again with the Wii and will pass on the Wii U for now.

I support DRM but would rather buy physical copies, if available and especially includes a manual, for the sake of adding items to my VGCollect.

Will add some more later on...
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 11, 2014, 01:47:46 am
Aside from handhelds, I never enjoyed Nintendo consoles as much as others have until the GameCube.  Then I lost faith again with the Wii and will pass on the Wii U for now.

I support DRM but would rather buy physical copies, if available and especially includes a manual, for the sake of adding items to my VGCollect.

Will add some more later on...


For me, the Nintendo Wii killed Nintendo for me.  I didn't really have a Gamecub, so I didn't play a ton outside of a few games like Animal Crossing, Zelda, and Resident Evil 4, but when the Wii came out, I really hated it, I hated the motion controller and there were just not many good games I thought for it and after like two years of owning it, I sold it off to a friend.  There are a few good games on it for sure now, but that was a super low point for Nintendo to me.  Which is funny that the Wii did so great, but I hated it, and now that I love the Wii U, it's doing horribly LOL

That leads into an unpopular opinion I'm sure...I don't like the Mario Galaxy series.  Like alot.  I dabbled in both and man did I really not like them.  They are competent games, but I was a giant fan of Super Mario 64 and it just felt like we lost most everything good that had to me.  We lost the big hub world to explore, the interesting levels to explore, with the new hardware, I just wanted a new big world to explore and they didn't have it.  Then by Galaxy 2, they dropped any sort of what I felt was good exploration in favorite of that shitty Super Mario 3 overworld that's so completely over-used, I wish they would abandon it forever.  I don't want tiny little linear levels to run through, I want big fucking worlds to explore dammit! It's why I'm hoping with a new Mario that they decide to do something different for once.  Super Mario 3D World was fun, but it's too much of the same, it's annoying.  I just want them to take what they did with Super Mario 64 and go BIG with it using their beautiful new graphics we are starting to see come through now with like Mario Kart 8.

I REALLY love Super Mario 64 lol
Title: Re: Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?
Post by: anruiukimi on April 11, 2014, 01:44:08 pm
I never noticed this thread!

Hmmm, I love most of the Koei strategy games?
FFVII, while I enjoyed it at the time, got old really quickly? (And the graphics aged far worse than the earlier sprite graphics of previous games.)

...can't think of any others at the moment.