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Title: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 20, 2013, 11:12:02 pm
Trying to find the first Skyrim game to play, I see there are several ones and some elder scrolls mixed with it or something very confusing.  What is the first Skyrim game?  Thanks for any responses.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: soera on December 20, 2013, 11:15:44 pm
Elder scrolls is the series. Skyrim is the latest version.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: turf on December 20, 2013, 11:36:11 pm
Soera: dropping knowledge like a boss.

This is the place to come with your game questions. We'll handle that noise.

Game questions. None of that technical mumbo jumbo. We be talking games up in here. Titles are also acceptable.  Tech Specs are better left to those that care/know about numbers.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 20, 2013, 11:56:04 pm
If you're trying to collect the numbered Elder Scrolls games of the series, they recently released Elder Scrolls: Anthology for the PC a few months ago.  The collection also includes all of the applicable expansion packs/downloadable content.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: bobster on December 21, 2013, 12:38:55 am
There was elder scrolls (I think that was all the first one was named) then came elderscrolls II: Daggerfall. I believe those were both PC only. After that was Elderscrolls III: Morrowind. That was PC and Xbox (the original xbox). Then came Elderscrolls IV: Oblivion (PC and xbox 360?). Then Elderscrolls V: Skyrim.

I started from Morrowind on and was satisfied with just those lol. Tried daggerfall and it was just too old school of a PC game for me.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: pacpix on December 21, 2013, 01:07:07 am
The main series goes in this order:
1. Elder Scrolls: Arena
2. Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
3. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
4. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
5. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Their is also a few spinoffs:
Elder Scrolls: Battlespire
Elder Scrolls: Redguard
Elder Scrolls: Travels (Released for the N-Gage)
Elder Scrolls Online (Not yet released)

You can download Arena and Daggerfall for free from the official website, but I recommend using Arena Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Files) and Daggerfall Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files) because getting these games set up in DOSbox is a lot of work.  I have not played Daggerfall much, but I did enjoy the time I spent playing Arena,  I gave up after the second dungeon though as it was very clunky, difficult, and was requiring more time than I cared to spend on it back when I played it.  The only other game I have played is Oblivion and I really like it.  I have not spent a whole lot of time in it, but I completed the Dark Brotherhood campaign and it was awesome.

I would take MJMaranan's advice and purchase The Elder Scrolls Anthology (http://www.amazon.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Anthology-Pc/dp/B00E9I1FPI) since it has all of the games from the main series.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: soera on December 21, 2013, 01:10:27 am
I enjoyed Morrowind. I played that bastard so much its what caused my girl who sold all my game collection off while I was at work one day to do so. I also have Oblivion and Skyrim. Step son has played both and prefers Oblivion a lot. Skyrim apparently has weird bugs that have never been worked out.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 21, 2013, 01:27:07 am
Soera: dropping knowledge like a boss.

This is the place to come with your game questions. We'll handle that noise.

Game questions. None of that technical mumbo jumbo. We be talking games up in here. Titles are also acceptable.  Tech Specs are better left to those that care/know about numbers.

What the heck??   lol

This don't mean I ask too many questions does it?  ???
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 21, 2013, 01:28:08 am
There was elder scrolls (I think that was all the first one was named) then came elderscrolls II: Daggerfall. I believe those were both PC only. After that was Elderscrolls III: Morrowind. That was PC and Xbox (the original xbox). Then came Elderscrolls IV: Oblivion (PC and xbox 360?). Then Elderscrolls V: Skyrim.

I started from Morrowind on and was satisfied with just those lol. Tried daggerfall and it was just too old school of a PC game for me.

Should I go straight to the ps3 versions or start with Morrowind for the original xbox?  I just don't want to begin with the newer one's and miss out on some epic story.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 21, 2013, 01:30:18 am

I would take MJMaranan's advice and purchase The Elder Scrolls Anthology (http://www.amazon.com/The-Elder-Scrolls-Anthology-Pc/dp/B00E9I1FPI) since it has all of the games from the main series.

I may have to do this.  I would just have to wait to get a gaming pc or laptop
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: htimreimer on December 21, 2013, 04:17:39 am
You can download Arena and Daggerfall for free from the official website, but I recommend using Arena Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Files) and Daggerfall Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files) because getting these games set up in DOSbox is a lot of work.
that's a bit of an understatement, arena and daggerfall are so poorly programmed that getting them running on a old system let alone new one is almost impossible and even when you do get them running they constantly CTD
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: turf on December 21, 2013, 07:47:49 am
Soera: dropping knowledge like a boss.

This is the place to come with your game questions. We'll handle that noise.

Game questions. None of that technical mumbo jumbo. We be talking games up in here. Titles are also acceptable.  Tech Specs are better left to those that care/know about numbers.

What the heck??   lol

This don't mean I ask too many questions does it?  ???

It is 100% meaningless. I was just being silly and running my head. Keep asking your questions.  How else do you learn?

Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: pacpix on December 21, 2013, 12:37:41 pm
You can download Arena and Daggerfall for free from the official website, but I recommend using Arena Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Files) and Daggerfall Setup (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files) because getting these games set up in DOSbox is a lot of work.
that's a bit of an understatement, arena and daggerfall are so poorly programmed that getting them running on a old system let alone new one is almost impossible and even when you do get them running they constantly CTD
Yeah definitely I spent a few hours trying to install them.  If you use the Arena Setup and Daggerfall Setup files though everything is done automatically and you just have to click the executable.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 21, 2013, 02:19:39 pm
Should I go straight to the ps3 versions or start with Morrowind for the original xbox?  I just don't want to begin with the newer one's and miss out on some epic story.

As much as I love The Elder Scrolls Series, you don't really need to play all of them as it's not like your choices will impact the next installment or need to finish the previous to understand the next game's events.  All of the stories are pretty epic considering that you always start out as a prisoner of fate.  What happens next is basically up to you.  Whether you follow the storyline, take a different path such as joining a guild or murdering everyone, or buy/steal a house and hoard loot.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: burningdoom on December 21, 2013, 02:40:36 pm
Should I go straight to the ps3 versions or start with Morrowind for the original xbox?  I just don't want to begin with the newer one's and miss out on some epic story.

As much as I love The Elder Scrolls Series, you don't really need to play all of them as it's not like your choices will impact the next installment or need to finish the previous to understand the next game's events.  All of the stories are pretty epic considering that you always start out as a prisoner of fate.  What happens next is basically up to you.  Whether you follow the storyline, take a different path such as joining a guild or murdering everyone, or buy/steal a house and hoard loot.

And as long as you're invested in each Elder Scrolls game, you actually want a break from such an involving game after finishing playing it. So playing them back-to-back like that would get you pretty burnt out on them, probably.

I never played the first 2 games. I tried a while back on my XP machine when Bethesda offered them free on the website at first, and it was such a pain in the butt to figure out how to get them to work on my system I gave up.

But before that, I had played Morrowind first anyways, on Original Xbox. And it absolutely amazed me with how large and at the same time detailed the world was. I loved the sense of exploration.

That said, I'd still suggest starting with Oblivion on PC, PS3, or Xbox 360. It's such a huge step-up from Morrowind and really is when the series hit it's stride. To tell the truth, after the initial wow-factor wears off of Morrowind (which in today's day and age playing it for the first time probably won't wow you), it gets pretty dang repetitive.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 21, 2013, 02:44:03 pm
Should I go straight to the ps3 versions or start with Morrowind for the original xbox?  I just don't want to begin with the newer one's and miss out on some epic story.

As much as I love The Elder Scrolls Series, you don't really need to play all of them as it's not like your choices will impact the next installment or need to finish the previous to understand the next game's events.  All of the stories are pretty epic considering that you always start out as a prisoner of fate.  What happens next is basically up to you.  Whether you follow the storyline, take a different path such as joining a guild or murdering everyone, or buy/steal a house and hoard loot.

And as long as you're invested in each Elder Scrolls game, you actually want a break from such an involving game after finishing playing it. So playing them back-to-back like that would get you pretty burnt out on them, probably.

I never played the first 2 games. I tried a while back on my XP machine when Bethesda offered them free on the website at first, and it was such a pain in the butt to figure out how to get them to work on my system I gave up.

But before that, I had played Morrowind first anyways, on Original Xbox. And it absolutely amazed me with how large and at the same time detailed the world was. I loved the sense of exploration.

That said, I'd still suggest starting with Oblivion on PC, PS3, or Xbox 360. It's such a huge step-up from Morrowind and really is when the series hit it's stride. To tell the truth, after the initial wow-factor wears off of Morrowind (which in today's day and age playing it for the first time probably won't wow you), it gets pretty dang repetitive.

Works for me!  I ended up getting Oblivion from gamestop this morning for 10 bucks so I'll find out about.  Tho' I had to exchange it because the first one they gave me would not even load in my ps3, so i had to go back and exchange it for the same game which works fine.  I m going to prob try it after redemption.

I did learn one thing there that I am upset about tho.  My 360 games say they output to 1080p but ps3 games mainly 720p.  If I knew that, I would have gotten the 360 first to play in 1080p but i guess it will be ok  :)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 22, 2013, 10:19:49 am
If I remember correctly, The Elder Scrolls games / downloadable content on PlayStation 3 have been problematic and may even be incomplete.  That's what I remember hearing, anyway.  Frustrating as, console-wise, I preferred most of my games genre on Sony consoles.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 22, 2013, 08:01:37 pm
If I remember correctly, The Elder Scrolls games / downloadable content on PlayStation 3 have been problematic and may even be incomplete.  That's what I remember hearing, anyway.  Frustrating as, console-wise, I preferred most of my games genre on Sony consoles.

I got mine as a physical copy for the ps3.  I don't have internet connection for my ps3.  Is the physical copy incomplete or just downloadable?
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: burningdoom on December 22, 2013, 08:33:49 pm
If I remember correctly, The Elder Scrolls games / downloadable content on PlayStation 3 have been problematic and may even be incomplete.  That's what I remember hearing, anyway.  Frustrating as, console-wise, I preferred most of my games genre on Sony consoles.

I got mine as a physical copy for the ps3.  I don't have internet connection for my ps3.  Is the physical copy incomplete or just downloadable?

He's talking about the expansions.

I'm not a PS3 gamer, so I could be wrong,  but I thought it was only Skyrim that didn't get the expansions due to compatibility issues with them. I thought Oblivion did get the Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine expansions.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: xstonekinghtx on December 23, 2013, 01:31:05 am
but if he have game of the year edition will come with both expansion, as well for skyrim
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 23, 2013, 05:40:07 pm
Unfortunately mine is not a game of the year edition  :(  I'll have to grab that one when I can.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 24, 2013, 12:51:14 am
I got mine as a physical copy for the ps3.  I don't have internet connection for my ps3.  Is the physical copy incomplete or just downloadable?

He's talking about the expansions.

I'm not a PS3 gamer, so I could be wrong,  but I thought it was only Skyrim that didn't get the expansions due to compatibility issues with them. I thought Oblivion did get the Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine expansions.
Oblivion-wise, the Horse Armor Pack isn't available for the PS3.  Not really a big deal, 90snostalga, I just point unimportant stuff out to soothe my ego.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 25, 2013, 01:41:53 pm
I see the computer compilation Elder Scrolls with all of them is on sale for only 40 bucks at works 26th-28th.  That's a great deal
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: burningdoom on December 25, 2013, 02:12:31 pm
I got mine as a physical copy for the ps3.  I don't have internet connection for my ps3.  Is the physical copy incomplete or just downloadable?

He's talking about the expansions.

I'm not a PS3 gamer, so I could be wrong,  but I thought it was only Skyrim that didn't get the expansions due to compatibility issues with them. I thought Oblivion did get the Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine expansions.
Oblivion-wise, the Horse Armor Pack isn't available for the PS3.  Not really a big deal, 90snostalga, I just point unimportant stuff out to soothe my ego.

Horse armor is really just cosmetic, too. It doesn't really protect your horse all that much.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 26, 2013, 12:52:56 am
I see the computer compilation Elder Scrolls with all of them is on sale for only 40 bucks at works 26th-28th.  That's a great deal
Yes.  Elder Scrolls Anthology is an amazing deal.  If you don't have a Steam Account yet, you'll need one to redeem the game key for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

Horse armor is really just cosmetic, too. It doesn't really protect your horse all that much.
Looking back and researching...  The Wizard's Tower and The Thieves' Den are also not available.

It may not be a big deal but I am mentioning this to prove my point when I stated that the PS3 versions of the Elder Scrolls Series are either problematic or incomplete.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 26, 2013, 01:46:12 am
I see the computer compilation Elder Scrolls with all of them is on sale for only 40 bucks at works 26th-28th.  That's a great deal
Yes.  Elder Scrolls Anthology is an amazing deal.  If you don't have a Steam Account yet, you'll need one to redeem the game key for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

Horse armor is really just cosmetic, too. It doesn't really protect your horse all that much.
Looking back and researching...  The Wizard's Tower and The Thieves' Den are also not available.

It may not be a big deal but I am mentioning this to prove my point when I stated that the PS3 versions of the Elder Scrolls Series are either problematic or incomplete.


Thanks.  It's fine I like complete games too.  I'm thinking of starting Oblivion after I finish Red Redemption but, I seen that 50 dollar complete pack with all the elder scrolls on pc at wal mart that I'm getting itchy to get it so when I have a gaming pc or lap top one day, I can play them complete on there.  Still debating on it tho'
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: bobster on December 26, 2013, 12:42:34 pm
I saw Newegg has the anthology for 40 bucks today.

Here's a link to the sale. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832136039&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL122613&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122613-_-EMC-122613-Index-_-PCGames-_-32136039-L019A)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: burningdoom on December 26, 2013, 01:14:08 pm
I see the computer compilation Elder Scrolls with all of them is on sale for only 40 bucks at works 26th-28th.  That's a great deal
Yes.  Elder Scrolls Anthology is an amazing deal.  If you don't have a Steam Account yet, you'll need one to redeem the game key for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

Horse armor is really just cosmetic, too. It doesn't really protect your horse all that much.
Looking back and researching...  The Wizard's Tower and The Thieves' Den are also not available.

It may not be a big deal but I am mentioning this to prove my point when I stated that the PS3 versions of the Elder Scrolls Series are either problematic or incomplete.


Thanks.  It's fine I like complete games too.  I'm thinking of starting Oblivion after I finish Red Redemption but, I seen that 50 dollar complete pack with all the elder scrolls on pc at wal mart that I'm getting itchy to get it so when I have a gaming pc or lap top one day, I can play them complete on there.  Still debating on it tho'

It's true you don't get the full game. I was just saying that if he does get it on PS3, he's not missing out on much. He still gets all the actual missions, quests, guilds, storylines, etc.

The Towers/Bases are a really cool addition to the series, too. They look fan-freaking-tastic. But IIRC, there is no actual missions or storyline connected to them (same as the horse armor).
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: tripredacus on December 26, 2013, 03:26:10 pm
PC version is really the way to go because of mods. And the fact that you can fix your game when it eventually breaks using the console. And there are other mods that act as patches to the game that fix bugs, etc.

And you can probably get away with skipping Daggerfall. It did not even work properly when the game came out. There were no CTDs back then by the way. ;)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on December 27, 2013, 01:44:19 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Dragon Mod for the win!  Oh yeah...

I think I read an article somewhere that Sony is opening the PS4 to allow mods, at least to a point.  Anyway...  There are so many amazing mods out there, I'd probably need at least a day to look for just some I want to download and install.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on December 31, 2013, 01:48:35 am
I finally got around to play Oblivion on the ps3 for the first time ever!  And my first response is "confused".  I guess I'll have to play and explore a bit more but it is so much.  The controls, the journal menu with all the options and items, over whelming so far.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: pacpix on December 31, 2013, 03:37:08 am
Yeah it takes a little bit to get used to, but once you figure it out it is a lot of fun.  For me, what helped me get into the game was to join one of the guilds and play out that storyline, I highly recommend the Dark Brotherhood storyline.  Or just walk around and discover stuff, that is what makes the game so fun.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: MJMaranan on January 04, 2014, 01:56:03 am
Now that system choice has been done away with, let's talk races.  Which is your race of choice?

I received a lot of flack from fellow fans for my choice but I enjoyed and continue to choose Imperial.  Nord and Breton are in a tie for distant second.  I always try to model my character to resemble an epic version of myself too, if given the opportunity.

Would anyone else like to share their choice of race?
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: pacpix on January 04, 2014, 03:07:58 am
I usually pick a Nord.  I did have one Dark Elf thief in Elder Scrolls: Arena though.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: 90snostalga on January 04, 2014, 02:15:18 pm
The character I picked is Argonian although I do not know what I'm doing yet,  this reptilian creature looked the coolest  ;)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: pceslayer on January 13, 2014, 09:37:52 am
I do believe the PS3 version has superior draw distance and a slight edge graphically over the 360 version.

Each species and gender have their ups and downs. If you want to make the game near impossible, play as a female Dark Elf and make her a thief. About two hits and you're done for! lol
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: burningdoom on January 13, 2014, 07:00:41 pm
Redguard. That "Adrenaline Rush" ability, pretty much makes your character able to overpower anything, at least once a day.