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VGCollect Site Stuff => Video Game Database Discussion => Topic started by: Veilor on January 25, 2014, 06:45:02 pm

Title: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: Veilor on January 25, 2014, 06:45:02 pm
So I tried editing Pokémon Emerald with adding the ´, that edit got through yesterday on PokéPark but reverted recently when I uploaded a better box art for it. The only reason I got was reading the style guide, which I did, nothing in it states anything about such things. I don't really see a reason for it to not be there, Pokemon games still shows up if I type Pokémon and the other way around. I also believe the search engine is better now in v3?
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: matt on January 25, 2014, 08:01:21 pm
We've got some encoding issues that are messing up any of the non-standard characters. So it isn't that you are doing anything wrong - but the system just can't handle them right now. I'm looking into a solution tonight.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: foxhack on January 25, 2014, 08:12:20 pm
ACTUALLY...

I just realized that the search DOES find stuff with accents now! After I rejected Veilor's edit I did a search for Pokemon without the accent and the site spat back results both with and without it. So that's new!

Sorry, Veilor.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: matt on January 25, 2014, 08:28:15 pm
The encoding issue seems to be on the admin side of things. This area uses an old framework to talk to the database and is not pulling in data using UTF8. I think I'm near a solution...finally.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: Veilor on January 26, 2014, 02:25:09 am
np Foxhack, you were just doing your job.

The encoding issue seems to be on the admin side of things. This area uses an old framework to talk to the database and is not pulling in data using UTF8. I think I'm near a solution...finally.

ok, just let us know when it is fixed :)
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: matt on January 26, 2014, 10:12:55 am
Should be good to go. Fox and I tested it a lot yesterday and couldn't break it.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: soera on January 26, 2014, 10:41:32 am
Is this really necessary? I dont even have that key on my keyboard. It doesnt seem prudent or an efficient use of time to mess with something like this.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: matt on January 26, 2014, 11:29:34 am
Is this really necessary? I dont even have that key on my keyboard. It doesnt seem prudent or an efficient use of time to mess with something like this.

Not really necessary but fixing this also fixed all of the issue we have had with Japanese and other non-Latin characters.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: soera on January 26, 2014, 11:33:55 am
Fair enough. Just sounded a little too nit-picky to me is why I asked. :)
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: scott on January 26, 2014, 12:28:08 pm
As long as I can type in Pokemon when I search and have Pokémon pop up in the results, I'm happy haha.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: Veilor on January 26, 2014, 01:27:44 pm
Well to me it's a big thing as Pokémon is spelled liked that, and I just hate seeing it written as just Pokemon.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: soera on January 26, 2014, 03:04:17 pm
But you missed my point. My keyboard doesnt even have that option. So it makes sense to have the easiest option available. Which is Poke not the Pok with the weird E.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: Veilor on January 26, 2014, 05:13:04 pm
But you missed my point. My keyboard doesnt even have that option. So it makes sense to have the easiest option available. Which is Poke not the Pok with the weird E.

Well that's probably because you live in USA. But all keyboards can write it. You can still type Pokemon and get the results. And as I said, that is how you spell Pokémon, with the weird E.

How to get weird e 

e with acute accent
   é  ALT + 130    É  ALT + 144

more at http://french.about.com/od/writing/ss/typeaccents_7.htm
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: foxhack on January 26, 2014, 06:09:32 pm
French keyboards from Canada also have that option.

Don't blame him, he's American. Their language makes no sense. :P
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: karyann on January 27, 2014, 06:35:45 pm
Well that's probably because you live in USA. But all keyboards can write it. You can still type Pokemon and get the results. And as I said, that is how you spell Pokémon, with the weird E.

How to get weird e 

e with acute accent
   é  ALT + 130    É  ALT + 144

more at http://french.about.com/od/writing/ss/typeaccents_7.htm

Veilor, are you French/French Canadian? Or are you just picky about accuracy? Not that it's a bad thing, I'm both picky AND french Canadian  :P
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: Veilor on January 27, 2014, 10:42:16 pm
haha I'm not :P I'm Swedish and picky with stuff. If the official name is spelling it one way, it should be that way and no other way.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: desocietas on January 27, 2014, 11:10:16 pm
If search can handle the special characters and can understand the é as an e, then I'd say that we spell it properly if we can.  It's easier to type titles in lowercase, but we don't do that because it'd just look bad and doesn't accurately reflect what's on the game box.
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: foxhack on January 27, 2014, 11:24:25 pm
If search can handle the special characters and can understand the é as an e, then I'd say that we spell it properly if we can.  It's easier to type titles in lowercase, but we don't do that because it'd just look bad and doesn't accurately reflect what's on the game box.
Well, it can -now-. I've edited a few of the games, feel free to fix the others. ;p
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: karyann on January 28, 2014, 11:25:04 am
If search can handle the special characters and can understand the é as an e, then I'd say that we spell it properly if we can.  It's easier to type titles in lowercase, but we don't do that because it'd just look bad and doesn't accurately reflect what's on the game box.
Well, it can -now-. I've edited a few of the games, feel free to fix the others. ;p

Free-for-all on the Pokémon games edit, GO

 :P
Title: Re: Why can't Pokemon be listed as Pokémon?
Post by: tpugmire on January 28, 2014, 12:15:26 pm
A approved a bunch of the Pokemon edits earlier this morning.