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Title: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: Warmsignal on April 15, 2014, 01:36:10 pm
This is something that plagued my purchasing decisions for several years. I would often fall victim to buying games I could do without, because I didn't know anything about them and just thought they looked cool when I found them. The truth is, not every game that looks or sounds good, is good, or is worth your dollar. This happens a lot less often to me now, because I've spent a lot of time researching games across many consoles, just out of curiosity of what's out there. There are still a few systems I I'm not too familiar with. Yesterday, I made another lame purchase based on not knowing what the heck I was looking at. I did a trade with a guy for Wario's Woods. I assumed it was a platformer, but no, it's a freaking Bust-A-Move clone. If I knew that, I never would have got the game. I only know the SNES essentials, so I wrongly assumed first party on SNES meant quality, I never would have dreamed it was a cash-in clone title with a Nintendo IP on the cover.

I guess I need to set aside another day to research every SNES game out there. Knowing absolutely everything is essential to not screwing yourself when you go game hunting. It's too bad you can't judge a book by it's cover. It seems like that's something you can do with NES games generally without having to look them up, but SNES it's a bad idea. Many SNES covers and titles are weird and misleading.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: fazerco on April 15, 2014, 01:48:06 pm
Luckely you have internet these days, so finding out what a game is like is easy  ;).
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: dreama1 on April 15, 2014, 02:47:50 pm
Check out that megaman box art.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: Warmsignal on April 15, 2014, 03:21:49 pm
Luckely you have internet these days, so finding out what a game is like is easy  ;).

Finding out what every game is like is still not easy. Too many games.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: hexen on April 15, 2014, 05:54:37 pm
You apparently still haven't played Wario's Woods... it's an interesting take on puzzle games having to run around and physically the pieces. Bust-A-Move is an inaccurate comparison to type of puzzle game.

Either way, in our age of information, it really is true that you should have no problem finding anything. If you have a smart phone, you can look up a game on the spot. Trading for something without knowledge of what you are trading for seems... I don't even know what to call it. It seems like something someone would do only if they wanted the game to be a surprise.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: zenimus on April 15, 2014, 05:59:26 pm
Mega Man box art looks amazing compared to the boxes of most US TurboGrafx-16 games.

I like most retro box art, they've got a weird sense of style that you don't find anymore. But TG16 games are pretty rough...
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: dreama1 on April 16, 2014, 10:12:46 am
Mega Man box art looks amazing compared to the boxes of most US TurboGrafx-16 games.

I like most retro box art, they've got a weird sense of style that you don't find anymore. But TG16 games are pretty rough...
final zone 2 lmao
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: instantreplay on April 16, 2014, 12:07:58 pm
Why the hell would you buy a game without knowing anything about it? XDDD
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: Warmsignal on April 16, 2014, 12:52:34 pm
Why the hell would you buy a game without knowing anything about it? XDDD

I think it's a pretty common thing to do when you're out looking at flea markets for games, and you come across something that looks compelling. You don't go to flea markets looking for specific titles, that's what eBay is good for. When you see a game called Wario's Woods, being that most Wario games are platformers, and you like platformers, one would think this is a safe gamble.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: hexen on April 16, 2014, 01:11:09 pm
Also at a flea market... you buy things you don't know what they are FOR CHEAP. $10 is the absolute maximum I would pay for an unknown,  with it likely being more like $5. How much could you possibly have payed?
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: scott on April 16, 2014, 01:11:41 pm
This is how I missed out on Persona 3 originally, I had seen P3 FES sitting on the shelf, but for some reason I thought it was a DDR clone by the look of the front cover. I never even picked up the box to read the back.

Now, years later, It's one of my favorite games of all time.  :)
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: burningdoom on April 16, 2014, 02:07:07 pm
I'm sorry, but in today's day and age of the internet and review shows and such I just have to say it: "Duh."
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: Warmsignal on April 16, 2014, 02:46:16 pm
Also at a flea market... you buy things you don't know what they are FOR CHEAP. $10 is the absolute maximum I would pay for an unknown,  with it likely being more like $5. How much could you possibly have payed?

As I stated above, I payed nothing. I traded, for something I had that was free in the first place. Yes, I'm still complaining. :P
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: dreama1 on April 17, 2014, 01:58:22 pm
I remember when I was young there was a certain magic about blind buying a game just by the art. I remember doing it with VHS tapes anyway mixed results ah.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: turf on April 17, 2014, 02:25:54 pm
I did a trade with a guy for Wario's Woods. I assumed it was a platformer, but no, it's a freaking Bust-A-Move clone. If I knew that, I never would have got the game. I only know the SNES essentials, so I wrongly assumed first party on SNES meant quality, I never would have dreamed it was a cash-in clone title with a Nintendo IP on the cover.


Give Wario's Woods a try.  It's actually a really good puzzle type game.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: Bwigdahl on April 17, 2014, 02:34:21 pm
Luckely you have internet these days, so finding out what a game is like is easy  ;).

Finding out what every game is like is still not easy. Too many games.

You can usually find videos of any game you want on youtube. At least on the main consoles, maybe some more obscure stuff is hard to find, but if I'm not sure of a game I usually just type it into youtube and i can find multiple videos of at least the first few levels... However, sometimes when I'm out I'll just pick something up I've never heard of just to try it out. I did it with a game called Battle Blaze on SNES. Sounded cool and looked cool but it just turned out to be a pretty shitty fighter (which aside from Street Fighter, I'm not really into that genre).
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: soera on April 17, 2014, 03:20:59 pm
Luckely you have internet these days, so finding out what a game is like is easy  ;).

Finding out what every game is like is still not easy. Too many games.

Well, I cant imagine anyone alive has experienced every single game made. But in your instance, it really only was one game ... which is basically about a 1-2 minute scenario online. I dont want to sound like the broken record here but honestly, just type in the game name on a search engine and watch a little game play. If you can not find a video of something, Id be fairly shocked.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: burningdoom on April 17, 2014, 03:43:17 pm
I remember when I was young there was a certain magic about blind buying a game just by the art. I remember doing it with VHS tapes anyway mixed results ah.

It wasn't as convenient as today with the internet, but it wasn't completely blind either. There were plenty of gaming magazines with both professional reviews and fan reviews.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: dashv on April 18, 2014, 02:40:18 am
I've never blind bought or traded.

And now with VG collect I have my wish list with me everywhere. Be it a flea market, retro store, forum post, whatever. I consult my wish list. Keeps me from buying crap I already ruled out. Keeps me from buying gems I've forgotten I have already!

I regularly surf, post, ask, watch, and read to find out what new and old stuff should be in my wish list.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: argyle on April 18, 2014, 09:50:30 am
I remember when I was young there was a certain magic about blind buying a game just by the art. I remember doing it with VHS tapes anyway mixed results ah.

It wasn't as convenient as today with the internet, but it wasn't completely blind either. There were plenty of gaming magazines with both professional reviews and fan reviews.

Eh, not so much in the NES days.  There was Nintendo Power, but even as a kid I got the impression that they were fairly biased.  I did do some blind buying in my younger days, but I was also less picky so I guess it evened out somewhat.  But some of my best purchases I made in those days (Mega Man, Gun Smoke, Zelda, Metroid, Punch-Out!) I made based on those awesome Nintendo demo units that used to be in every department store.  Honestly, that's one of the few things from that era of gaming that I'd really love to have in my collection, but I'm sure they go for far more than I'd be willing to pay. 

I'm not going to say I've never bought a game based on its title even today, but not a game I'd be paying very much for.  If I'm at a yard sale / flea market and I see an interesting game I've never heard of before for $5 or less, I'll buy it.  Most recent one I can think of is Rayman Rush for the PSX - of course I'm familiar with Rayman, played it since the original, but somehow I had never heard of this racing game spin-off. 
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: burningdoom on April 18, 2014, 12:09:04 pm
I remember when I was young there was a certain magic about blind buying a game just by the art. I remember doing it with VHS tapes anyway mixed results ah.

It wasn't as convenient as today with the internet, but it wasn't completely blind either. There were plenty of gaming magazines with both professional reviews and fan reviews.

Eh, not so much in the NES days.  There was Nintendo Power, but even as a kid I got the impression that they were fairly biased.  I did do some blind buying in my younger days, but I was also less picky so I guess it evened out somewhat.  But some of my best purchases I made in those days (Mega Man, Gun Smoke, Zelda, Metroid, Punch-Out!) I made based on those awesome Nintendo demo units that used to be in every department store.  Honestly, that's one of the few things from that era of gaming that I'd really love to have in my collection, but I'm sure they go for far more than I'd be willing to pay. 

I'm not going to say I've never bought a game based on its title even today, but not a game I'd be paying very much for.  If I'm at a yard sale / flea market and I see an interesting game I've never heard of before for $5 or less, I'll buy it.  Most recent one I can think of is Rayman Rush for the PSX - of course I'm familiar with Rayman, played it since the original, but somehow I had never heard of this racing game spin-off.

More than just Nintendo Power. There was also Electronic Gaming Monthly, GamePro, and Game Player's. There was even GamePro T.V. back then. But that's still not as easy as typing in a game title and getting 100s of different reviews on the internet.

But I too bought a bad game or two based on the cover back in the day. LJN being the biggest offender for me since I was a comic fan.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: argyle on April 18, 2014, 01:29:40 pm
Well those all popped up pretty late in the NES' lifespan (1989 for the first two, 1988 for the last but I don't know that I've ever heard of it before - certainly not back then). 
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: burningdoom on April 18, 2014, 01:52:32 pm
Well those all popped up pretty late in the NES' lifespan (1989 for the first two, 1988 for the last but I don't know that I've ever heard of it before - certainly not back then).

Oh man, check them out then. Game Player's was like the best game magazine back then. They covered EVERY system, not just Sega and Nintendo. And their magazines were always crammed full of stuff with tons of pages. They also put out these awesome buyer's guide and strategy guides that were high-quality and before strategy guides were a thing:

(http://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/37234.jpg)(http://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/43093.jpg)
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: burningdoom on April 18, 2014, 01:53:14 pm
Sorry about the size of those, I can't seem to find a decent sized one on Google Image Search.

EDIT: Nevermind, found some here on VGCollect that weren't so gargantuan-sized.
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: 90snostalga on April 18, 2014, 02:53:20 pm
Well those all popped up pretty late in the NES' lifespan (1989 for the first two, 1988 for the last but I don't know that I've ever heard of it before - certainly not back then).

Oh man, check them out then. Game Player's was like the best game magazine back then. They covered EVERY system, not just Sega and Nintendo. And their magazines were always crammed full of stuff with tons of pages. They also put out these awesome buyer's guide and strategy guides that were high-quality and before strategy guides were a thing:

(http://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/37234.jpg)(http://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/43093.jpg)

Yea Im with argyle.  Back when I was a kid, the only and I mean ONLY video game magazine I ever seen in a store was Nintendo Power.  I never even heard of Electronic Gaming until the PlayStation era.  But hey, I was a kid.  Yes almost every game I wanted was based on the cover lol.  Who didnt?  Games were like books to me because thats the only reason I ever got into Goosebumps as a kid.  Those freaky scary covers HUAUAHAHHAAUUUAHAHAH!!!!!   8)
Title: Re: Judging games by their title and cover is a bad idea
Post by: 90snostalga on April 21, 2014, 01:00:41 pm
I would like to add that the "Tales Of Symphonie" that I just got for the Wii was simply because I think the cover looks very cool  :D