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Title: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on October 07, 2014, 01:13:12 pm
Nintendo is releasing they're first Amiibo series along with launch of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. These "toy-to-life" figures will work with future Wii U titles and there's plans to make them compatible with Nintendo 3DS via a peripheral and the "New Nintendo 3DS" handheld line.

Is there a preferred category these should be submitted to? They probably should not be entered under Wii U because of the cross-platform (and in some cases cross-game) usage. Do they really have to be listed under the generic Accessory (http://vgcollect.com/browse/accessory) group? Frankly that scares me because it's just filled with miscellaneous things. -Mostly Skylanders figures. This kind of brings up the question: shouldn't Disney Infinity, Skylander's (along with its multiple series), and Amiibo get their own categories and/or sub-categories? I could definitely see Amiibo going under Nintendo Other at least.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: koemo1 on October 07, 2014, 02:02:02 pm
Maybe a listing as "Interactive Figurine Series"?
Skylanders
Disney Infinity
Amiiboo
Pokemon Rumble U
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on October 08, 2014, 09:29:03 am
Im okay with changing that. And the category of "Interactive figures" is definitely a good choice. At first, it was just Skylanders and there were only 36 of them when it started (I am the one who has entered over 90% of all the Skylanders in the database) but the way it is now, there are 100s of different figures just for Skylanders not to mention all the others. I agree that it should have its own separate category now.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: silversyx on October 08, 2014, 11:24:41 am
Having their own category would be great in my opinion, or maybe if there was a way to list them under multiple platforms? Like if I register my Mario Amiibo and it asks "do you use this on Wii U and/or 3DS?" or for Disney Infinity "Do you use this on: PS3, Wii, Xbox 360, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One..." Etc.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: fazerco on October 08, 2014, 01:39:17 pm
Maybe a silly question, but those skylanders, you have them for the playstation's and nintendo's. If u buy one for the ps3, doesnt that figure work on the Wii?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: foxhack on October 08, 2014, 01:40:18 pm
... I vote against multiple platforms. Those figures work on the games, regardless of the platform, so there's no point in listing them for each one.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on October 08, 2014, 02:09:17 pm
While we're on the subject, is there a reason we use the promo artwork for the Skylanders figures instead of a shot of the actual figure in its packaging?  ???
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: foxhack on October 08, 2014, 03:08:41 pm
While we're on the subject, is there a reason we use the promo artwork for the Skylanders figures instead of a shot of the actual figure in its packaging?  ???

No. I found that odd too.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on October 08, 2014, 03:41:05 pm
A new category would be cool, seeing how everyone seems to want to get in this business too. And it would de-clutter the accessory category, which would be nice too! I think it's win-win.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on October 08, 2014, 06:24:35 pm
While we're on the subject, is there a reason we use the promo artwork for the Skylanders figures instead of a shot of the actual figure in its packaging?  ???

No. I found that odd too.

Unless I'm losing my mind - and that's always a possibility - I want to say I submitted some package pics 2 or 3 months ago & they were approved.  But now I see they've been bumped down to the "alternate" artwork.  It's my OCD coming out I guess, just bugs me to not see the real package. :P
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on October 08, 2014, 07:37:52 pm
yes the figures work on every platform. The only difference is the game disc.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: critter7405 on October 09, 2014, 12:15:36 am
In my opinion I think that the figures should have there own category .... It would be a lot easier to look up and find when need be.. :P
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on October 09, 2014, 07:36:13 pm
While we're on the subject, is there a reason we use the promo artwork for the Skylanders figures instead of a shot of the actual figure in its packaging?  ???

No. I found that odd too.

Unless I'm losing my mind - and that's always a possibility - I want to say I submitted some package pics 2 or 3 months ago & they were approved.  But now I see they've been bumped down to the "alternate" artwork.  It's my OCD coming out I guess, just bugs me to not see the real package. :P

Im the one that does that. I cant stand the look of the stupid figures in the pictures and some of the items do not come in packages and stuff. The artwork looks better.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on October 09, 2014, 07:37:39 pm
Maybe a silly question, but those skylanders, you have them for the playstation's and nintendo's. If u buy one for the ps3, doesnt that figure work on the Wii?

The figures work for whatever system you have.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: fazerco on October 10, 2014, 03:26:23 am
Maybe a silly question, but those skylanders, you have them for the playstation's and nintendo's. If u buy one for the ps3, doesnt that figure work on the Wii?

The figures work for whatever system you have.

Thx.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on October 10, 2014, 10:36:00 am
While we're on the subject, is there a reason we use the promo artwork for the Skylanders figures instead of a shot of the actual figure in its packaging?  ???

No. I found that odd too.

Unless I'm losing my mind - and that's always a possibility - I want to say I submitted some package pics 2 or 3 months ago & they were approved.  But now I see they've been bumped down to the "alternate" artwork.  It's my OCD coming out I guess, just bugs me to not see the real package. :P

Im the one that does that. I cant stand the look of the stupid figures in the pictures and some of the items do not come in packages and stuff. The artwork looks better.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarwlnNgxVN2oO0U/giphy.gif)

:P

I disagree, but what can you do?  Not everyone can be right all the time like I am. ;)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on October 27, 2014, 12:29:22 pm
Do any of the admins have an consciences of this yet? They're going to be releasing soon and it would be nice to know where I can shove these?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: foxhack on October 27, 2014, 12:37:32 pm
The only person that can add categories is matt. :'(
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: hexen on January 06, 2015, 04:30:15 pm
I've noticed that the Amiibos seem to have been split in categories between Wii U accessories and Hardware accessories... I started submitting edits to the remaining few hardware accessories to change them to Wii U accessories, when I thought that maybe someone had left them that way to represent the ones that will work on 3DS games or something...?

The point is having Amiibos split in different categories seems dumb, so they should all be in one. I hear Sorea is the NFC figure man, so if you see this, please decide where they go all together. K thnx.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on January 06, 2015, 05:07:39 pm
The "New" 3DS is capable of reading amiibos (NFC), and there was a planned amiibo scanner/portal for normal 3DS models but at the moment there isn't any games that take advantage of amiibos (at least not in NA and EU). Once some games come out we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: hexen on January 07, 2015, 01:00:18 pm
I still find it REALLY annoying that like 5 Amiibos are in a different category than the rest.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: tpugmire on January 07, 2015, 04:16:54 pm
Eventually, they will get their own category. For now, add/edit them to Wii U Accessory.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on January 07, 2015, 05:44:42 pm
Its not a Wii U accessory, its an accessory period. I was the one that uploaded every single Amiibo as well as all the Skylanders. If its usable on more than one system, it cant be classified by system.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on January 07, 2015, 08:10:03 pm
I still find it REALLY annoying that like 5 Amiibos are in a different category than the rest.

Since Soera entered all the Amiibo and is good at consistency, my guess is that these 5 are probably dupes of already existing entries.


Edit: Nevermind, I think it might actually be because of the merge of dupes. We'll have to edit them back to "Accessory".  :-\
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: psydswipe on January 21, 2015, 05:58:34 am
Is there a reason the current amiibo listings don't include Super Smash Bros. in the title? It seems relevant since the game title is on the front of the amiibo packaging and above the character's name. I realize they can be compatible with other games but Super Smash Bros. is the primary game for the first few waves. Keeping the titles as is will create duplicate names once the Super Mario series hits in a few months though I guess you could number them, like Mario 2, Mario 3 and so on (though someone would have to keep track of that). Personally I'd put the game titles for these and for Skylanders and Disney before the character names, though I can see why you might want the character name first so that you can see how many variations exist for a single character.  On the other hand, putting a title first would make it easier to see all of the characters associated with a single game with the way the database sorts.

Although the figures just got their own section and this might be overkill, but maybe it would be best to give each type their own sub section under the toys. For example, Skylanders would be a category and Disney Infinity a separate category under Interactive Figures. I suppose it gets to be a bit much since they are broken down by region as well.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on January 21, 2015, 04:41:41 pm
SSB is only the initial game that Amiibo are going to be accessible on and as such, no reason to include the name. I cant imagine anyone is going to look for them by typing in "Super smash bros Wii U Amiibo Mario" and instead just searching "Amiibo Mario".

When it comes to the Skylanders, I tried to include the game they are released with (Spyro, Giants, Swap force, Trap team) but the main focus of all of the interactive figures is the figure themselves.

I honestly dont see the need to have the separate regions either. Once the figures are opened, there is absolutely no difference in which region they come from. All we need is the Interactive figure category and, if for some reason you must categorize which region you bought it in, just add it in notes.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on January 21, 2015, 08:41:39 pm
That's kinda why I suggested having a subcategory for each brand. For example if we had an Amiibo category we wouldn't have to add the word Amiibo to the end. We could have an entry Bowser - Super Smash Bros. and Bowser - Super Mario Bros (or whatever that new series is called). In either case we should have some kind of outline on the official style sheet on how to proceed with these NFC figures.

As much as I agree with the tossing of the regions for the figures, like soera was saying, there's some ppl who want to collect the different region packages. I could care less personally.
On a similar topic: I keep seeing people use region brackets on console accessories like controllers. Controllers for the most part will work anywhere. The only difference is the packaging.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on February 01, 2015, 11:46:14 am
That's kinda why I suggested having a subcategory for each brand. For example if we had an Amiibo category we wouldn't have to add the word Amiibo to the end. We could have an entry Bowser - Super Smash Bros. and Bowser - Super Mario Bros (or whatever that new series is called). In either case we should have some kind of outline on the official style sheet on how to proceed with these NFC figures.

As much as I agree with the tossing of the regions for the figures, like soera was saying, there's some ppl who want to collect the different region packages. I could care less personally.
On a similar topic: I keep seeing people use region brackets on console accessories like controllers. Controllers for the most part will work anywhere. The only difference is the packaging.

I definitely agree w/ subcategories. I don't think it would be too involved to separate them into Amiibo / Skylanders / Disney Infinity.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: DreamsDied13101 on February 05, 2015, 02:07:05 pm
I am in agreement with subcategories for the Interactive Figures. Browsing that section is a mess right now.

I appreciate the category being created initially and hopefully we can add even this next level in the hierarchy tree for it!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: psydswipe on February 17, 2015, 05:59:40 am
SSB is only the initial game that Amiibo are going to be accessible on and as such, no reason to include the name. I cant imagine anyone is going to look for them by typing in "Super smash bros Wii U Amiibo Mario" and instead just searching "Amiibo Mario".

Now they have the game name in the title in parentheses and I'm wondering if that's the new policy or if a staff member just accepted the edits without discussing it since they all appear to be title edit submissions by a fairly new user. That leads me to my next question, something I've been wondering for a while: how many staff members are there and who are they? Does each person have a specific role? I've been visiting the site on and off for years but have no idea if the full staff is listed somewhere on the site. I realize some have admin in their forum profile, though I'm not seeing a way to pull up all the forum users (and perhaps sort by their profile title).
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on February 17, 2015, 09:53:36 am
That's kinda why I suggested having a subcategory for each brand. For example if we had an Amiibo category we wouldn't have to add the word Amiibo to the end. We could have an entry Bowser - Super Smash Bros. and Bowser - Super Mario Bros (or whatever that new series is called). In either case we should have some kind of outline on the official style sheet on how to proceed with these NFC figures.

The majority of our users are not forum regulars. They will most definitely search for the word "Amiibo" when looking for them. It has to be included.

As much as I agree with the tossing of the regions for the figures, like soera was saying, there's some ppl who want to collect the different region packages. I could care less personally.
On a similar topic: I keep seeing people use region brackets on console accessories like controllers. Controllers for the most part will work anywhere. The only difference is the packaging.

You yourself explained what I was saying. Interactive figures are just like controllers. They will work anywhere and the only difference is the packaging.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on February 17, 2015, 09:57:10 am
I definitely agree w/ subcategories. I don't think it would be too involved to separate them into Amiibo / Skylanders / Disney Infinity.

With that comes Amiibo (NA), Amiibo (EU), Amiibo (JP), etc ... one for every single region, one for every different game. Its overkill. I still stick with what I said that its already too much to have each region for interactive figures as they are identical once opened.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: soera on February 17, 2015, 10:03:24 am
SSB is only the initial game that Amiibo are going to be accessible on and as such, no reason to include the name. I cant imagine anyone is going to look for them by typing in "Super smash bros Wii U Amiibo Mario" and instead just searching "Amiibo Mario".

Now they have the game name in the title in parentheses and I'm wondering if that's the new policy or if a staff member just accepted the edits without discussing it since they all appear to be title edit submissions by a fairly new user. That leads me to my next question, something I've been wondering for a while: how many staff members are there and who are they? Does each person have a specific role? I've been visiting the site on and off for years but have no idea if the full staff is listed somewhere on the site. I realize some have admin in their forum profile, though I'm not seeing a way to pull up all the forum users (and perhaps sort by their profile title).

I will say that I did not accept the edits. I can see a little bit of why they were done (why Nintendo decided to release yet another form of Mario/Bowser/Etc for another game is mind boggling and as such they are different figures with different poses and different compatibility).
Staff members. Matt is the top dog followed by Scott. The rest of us are admin who do things like merge topics, approve edits, etc. There is no one who has their own section other than Matt and Scott. The edits come to us on an additional section and the list is limited in size on what is available so that the first ones must be accepted/rejected before we have access to any others. So to wait for someone who is in charge of one area to accept theirs so that I could access whatever my area was is not feasible.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: pacpix on February 17, 2015, 10:23:58 pm
I accepted those edits as it seemed like a logical way to differentiate between the Amiibo variants of the same character, and as Soera said we cannot just leave it for another admin to address.  I guess that raises the question though, how exactly do we want to address the variations?  I am fine with the parentheses method personally, but not sure how everyone else feels about it.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on February 17, 2015, 11:30:48 pm
they are different figures with different poses and different compatibility.
From what I know, they will all have the same compatibility, but can only hold the data of one game at a time. I would compare that to Skylanders from a same generation but with a different variant, I guess (like Molten Hot Dog or Phantom Cynder which do the same thing as Hot Dog or Cynder, but look different).

I still stick with what I said that its already too much to have each region for interactive figures as they are identical once opened.

For what it's worth, I agree too that figures are all the same once opened. Would it be a good idea to revert to a "universal" category "Interactive Figures" without a region, and just add the "cover variant" for a region in the title?
For example, Pikmin 2 and the Canadian cover variant:
http://vgcollect.com/item/2233 and
http://vgcollect.com/item/35107

Except it would be NA/EU/JP/whatever. Just my two cents / idea on the subject.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on May 05, 2016, 02:49:50 pm
OK, I'm resurrecting this bad boy.

Now that interactive figures are in full swing and we're dealing with 4 full-fledged brands (amiibo, Lego, Skylanders & Disney) having them all lumped together looks extremely cluttered when browsing my collection - not to mention it defeats one of the main purposes of keeping my collection here, which is making it easy to *quickly* look & see what I already have. So I would like to re-address the topic of sub categories for each of the major brands. Looking back over the thread, I see that regions was one of the issues why this wasn't done but I don't see why you can't have one without the other. If someone REALLY cares about specifying what region their figure is from then that's what the notes field is for, right?

So what are everyone's thoughts on this a year later? Is there any logical reason at this point not to create sub categories?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 05, 2016, 03:05:19 pm
Sub-categories sound fine to me, breaking them down into the 4 franchises or whatever. Did anyone have an issue with denoting region in the title, similar to what we do for other items?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: argyle on May 05, 2016, 03:27:32 pm
Sub-categories sound fine to me, breaking them down into the 4 franchises or whatever. Did anyone have an issue with denoting region in the title, similar to what we do for other items?

Well it was brought up that it would overly complicate things, especially considering that the figures are identical across regions once they're removed from their packaging. I am neutral on that point, I can see both sides of the issue.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 05, 2016, 03:55:07 pm
Sub-categories sound fine to me, breaking them down into the 4 franchises or whatever. Did anyone have an issue with denoting region in the title, similar to what we do for other items?

Well it was brought up that it would overly complicate things, especially considering that the figures are identical across regions once they're removed from their packaging. I am neutral on that point, I can see both sides of the issue.

True, I can see that. I personally keep all my amiibo in its packaging, so it's obvious to me, but it's a good point about them being the same once opened.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 05, 2016, 11:30:47 pm
... it's a good point about them being the same once opened.
Same with most controllers. lol

I can understand wanting to differentiate western Super NES games from Japanese Super Famicom because the packaging is drastically different in most cases. Amiibo on the other hand has practically identical packaging worldwide. The only change being language and maybe a couple bundle varieties. I can't speak much for the other brands though.  As with controllers, they're more or less all the same out of their packages, and region free too.

I would not be against the idea of compacting all the Amiibo into one comprehensive subcategory. At the same time I can sympathize with the more ADHD collector who has to keep the regions divided.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 06, 2016, 01:12:35 am
Nice. I've been waiting for this subject to resurface.  ;)

As someone who's put a decent amount of work into the Interactive Figures category, I would LOVE to see sub-categories for each of the major lines. As far as how complicated the sub categories get, I don't think it's really necessary to break it down by country like most of the other categories are.

Instead of this as subcategories like this...

Amiibo Figures [EU]
Amiibo Figures [JP]
Amiibo Figures [NA]

I think it would be easier if we did something along these lines where the figure entries themselves denoted their origin...

Rosalina & Luna (Super Smash Bros. Series) (AU)
Rosalina & Luna (Super Smash Bros. Series) (EU)
Rosetta & Chiko (Super Smash Bros. Series) (JPN)
Rosalina & Luna (Super Smash Bros. Series) (NA)

I would think this way it's less complicated and no more annoying than dealing with something like this...

Mortal Kombat X
Mortal Kombat X - Limited Edition
Mortal Kombat X - Deluxe Collector's Edition
Mortal Kombat X (Greatest Hits)

Me personally I would break down the section down like this

Interactive Figures
Amiibo Accessories (for things like stands/displays/carrying cases/etc)
Amiibo Animal Crossing Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Accessories (for things like stands/displays/power discs/playsets/carrying cases/etc)
Disney Infinity Figures
LEGO Dimensions Accessories (see above)
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Accessories (stands/bags/playsets/traps/special items)
Skylanders Figures & Vehicles
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: pacpix on May 06, 2016, 01:30:33 am
^
I kind of like that idea.  Part of the point of VGCollect is listing every variant, but I can see the argument of not wanting to break down the interactive figures into multiple regions.  Denoting it in the title would ensure that the variations could still be added to the site, while keeping the amount of interactive figure categories relatively small.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 06, 2016, 02:02:12 am
Ah, I did recall one thing about the regional differences as some figures are only available in packs while available individually in another region.

If I'm not mistaken, this was the case for KK Slider, no? In NA, he's only available in the 3-pack while his Japanese counterpart is available as a single pack.

While, yes, they might not be different once you open the package for either, there might be collectors like me who keep their figures in their boxes as a collectible and having the regional variant would be useful.

Also, Flashback, I like your breakdown a lot :D
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: rayne315 on May 06, 2016, 08:38:34 am
So I have a question regarding region of open amiibos. Isnt their text on the bottom of open amiibos bases to that can give you a rough idea of where they came from?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 06, 2016, 09:07:46 am
Me personally I would break down the section down like this

Interactive Figures
Amiibo Accessories (for things like stands/displays/carrying cases/etc)
Amiibo Animal Crossing Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Accessories (for things like stands/displays/power discs/playsets/carrying cases/etc)
Disney Infinity Figures
LEGO Dimensions Accessories (see above)
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Accessories (stands/bags/playsets/traps/special items)
Skylanders Figures & Vehicles

You have my vote on this. I find it pretty useless to separate regions into their own category, and I do agree that simply specifying it in the title is clean enough for them.

These categories sound pretty complete to me.


Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: mastafafik on May 06, 2016, 09:49:30 am
I would change the "Amiibo Animal Crossing Cards" for "Amiibo Cards" as it may in the future will be cards from other Nintendo games, like Shadow Mewtwo amiibo card for Pokken Tournament.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: abe on May 06, 2016, 10:05:14 am
So I have a question regarding region of open amiibos. Isnt their text on the bottom of open amiibos bases to that can give you a rough idea of where they came from?

They seem to have serial numbers on the bottom, but I have no idea if that can actually be used to tell what region it's from. I'm not even 100% sure those are serial numbers. I don't have any imported Amiibo either, so I can't confirm if they're any different on the bottom or not.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 06, 2016, 10:34:34 am
I would change the "Amiibo Animal Crossing Cards" for "Amiibo Cards" as it may in the future will be cards from other Nintendo games, like Shadow Mewtwo amiibo card for Pokken Tournament.

Ah, really good point!


They seem to have serial numbers on the bottom, but I have no idea if that can actually be used to tell what region it's from. I'm not even 100% sure those are serial numbers. I don't have any imported Amiibo either, so I can't confirm if they're any different on the bottom or not.

I have an EU Marth and JP Robin, Lucina, Totakeke and Isabelle, if anyone wants to compare. I'll check their codes this weekend or so.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 06, 2016, 12:13:28 pm
I would change the "Amiibo Animal Crossing Cards" for "Amiibo Cards" as it may in the future will be cards from other Nintendo games, like Shadow Mewtwo amiibo card for Pokken Tournament.

Oh yeah...the Shadow MewTwo card. I forgot about that. Good catch mastafafik!  ;D
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: mastafafik on May 06, 2016, 12:21:01 pm
So I have a question regarding region of open amiibos. Isnt their text on the bottom of open amiibos bases to that can give you a rough idea of where they came from?
Almost all  products that can be sell in Europe must have a CE logo (http://www.bsigroup.com/meddev/LocalFiles/en-GB/Images/Our-services/CE-marking-logo.jpg)
If you have that mark on the bottom of the amiibo, then you have an European amiibo.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 06, 2016, 12:22:12 pm
Personally I don't understand listing every amiibo card. We don't list every e-reader card.

If you have that mark on the bottom of the amiibo, then you have an European amiibo.
That's untrue. American ones have that too. Many products have CE them because manufacturers don't know where they'll end up.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 06, 2016, 12:28:18 pm
A lot of NA products have the CE logo on them though, which lets them manufacture everything in the same way. I'm unsure if our Amiibo have it, though.

Should've read all posts before answering.  ::)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 06, 2016, 12:54:25 pm
Personally I don't understand listing every amiibo card. We don't list every e-reader card.

THIS MUST BE FIXED!   :P

All joking aside, I always did feel like the e-Reader needed it's own sub-category under Nintendo Other even though it requires the GBA to play (and DS/DS Lite or did it not fit in that?). Of course if you're going to have a category for that you'd have to not only list the games they sold for it like Excitebike and Donkey Kong Jr. but also all of those damn Pokemon e-Reader cards they shat out. Trying to track all those down sounds mildly nightmare inducing. And then there's the Animal Crossing cards. OY.  :o
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 07, 2016, 04:34:03 pm
So, to clear up the Amiibo base information thingy:

All regions have CE under.

EU Marth: 424000AAAMW3
JP Lucina code: 425000AABTW2
JP Robin/Reflet: 415000AABUW2
JP Isabelle: 395000AJAAW2
JP Totakeke: 435000AJABG1

If anyone can compare one of those from another region that'd be neat :)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 07, 2016, 10:26:11 pm
I think some people have started posting those 12 digit codes in some of our amiibo entries. Or at least I remember seeing a few with them.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 10, 2016, 04:53:27 pm
RIP Disney infinity...

http://www.disneyinteractive.com/blog/update-disney-infinity/
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 12, 2016, 12:13:37 pm
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Interactive Figures
Amiibo Accessories (for things like stands/displays/carrying cases/etc)
Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Accessories (for things like stands/displays/power discs/playsets/carrying cases/etc)
Disney Infinity Figures
LEGO Dimensions Accessories (see above)
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Accessories (stands/bags/playsets/traps/special items)
Skylanders Figures

So, can everyone vote on this or suggest modifications? Once we settle for something, I'll see with Jason when we could make the modifications. It's going to be a lot of work so it might take a while for us to sync and do it, so might as well at least get clear right now on what to do  :P
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 12, 2016, 12:17:46 pm
Is it necessary to split the accessories up?
Are we still doing regions as well?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 12, 2016, 01:44:22 pm
I don't have any open amiibos to cross check against Karyann's numbers, I'm afraid.

I still like the idea of regions, but for the sake of having a shorter list, maybe it should be a situation where we write the region code after the title. That'd be pretty annoying of course, but it's what's currently being done with other game accessories.  Otherwise, the list that we adopt might be 3 times longer for all the regions.

Also, I notice that the Interactive Figures [AU] page doesn't work - is it just because there's nothing entered for it?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 12, 2016, 01:44:32 pm
Is it necessary to split the accessories up?
Are we still doing regions as well?

Accessories don't HAVE to be split up but it would be nice I think to have a category to view just the figures themselves. LEGO Dimensions probably doesn't need an accessories sub-category as there isn't much in the way of accessories other than from a few pouches and carrying cases. In regards to Infinity though there's the playsets and power discs as well as any and all accessories such as totes or what not (I know GS carries an ornament encasement you can use for your Infinity characters). Skylanders have plenty of accessories that might clutter up their listing as well. Amiibos have a few case/bag accessories that I'm aware of but maybe not enough to justify a sub-category.

As for regions, I would think that renaming them with the region denoted in the title was a workable fix. Then perhaps you could have an "Open Figure" listing that's for all regions? Amiibos seem to be the only line that is really affected by this conundrum.  :P


So how's this look...

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures & Accessories
Disney Infinity Figures & Accessories
LEGO Dimensions Figures & Accessories
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures & Accessories
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: gf78 on May 12, 2016, 01:55:29 pm
Is it necessary to split the accessories up?
Are we still doing regions as well?

Accessories don't HAVE to be split up but it would be nice I think to have a category to view just the figures themselves. LEGO Dimensions probably doesn't need an accessories sub-category as there isn't much in the way of accessories other than from a few pouches and carrying cases. In regards to Infinity though there's the playsets and power discs as well as any and all accessories such as totes or what not (I know GS carries an ornament encasement you can use for your Infinity characters). Skylanders have plenty of accessories that might clutter up their listing as well. Amiibos have a few case/bag accessories that I'm aware of but maybe not enough to justify a sub-category.

As for regions, I would think that renaming them with the region denoted in the title was a workable fix. Then perhaps you could have an "Open Figure" listing that's for all regions? Amiibos seem to be the only line that is really affected by this conundrum.  :P


So how's this look...

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures & Accessories
Disney Infinity Figures & Accessories
LEGO Dimensions Figures & Accessories
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures & Accessories

It would definitely be helpful if the "interactive figures" section was broken down into individual product lines.  They are as independent from each other as PS4, Wii U and Xbox One. 
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: rayne315 on May 13, 2016, 12:54:53 pm
Is it necessary to split the accessories up?
Are we still doing regions as well?

Accessories don't HAVE to be split up but it would be nice I think to have a category to view just the figures themselves. LEGO Dimensions probably doesn't need an accessories sub-category as there isn't much in the way of accessories other than from a few pouches and carrying cases. In regards to Infinity though there's the playsets and power discs as well as any and all accessories such as totes or what not (I know GS carries an ornament encasement you can use for your Infinity characters). Skylanders have plenty of accessories that might clutter up their listing as well. Amiibos have a few case/bag accessories that I'm aware of but maybe not enough to justify a sub-category.

As for regions, I would think that renaming them with the region denoted in the title was a workable fix. Then perhaps you could have an "Open Figure" listing that's for all regions? Amiibos seem to be the only line that is really affected by this conundrum.  :P


So how's this look...

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures & Accessories
Disney Infinity Figures & Accessories
LEGO Dimensions Figures & Accessories
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures & Accessories

It would definitely be helpful if the "interactive figures" section was broken down into individual product lines.  They are as independent from each other as PS4, Wii U and Xbox One.

You mean like series 1 and series 2?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 13, 2016, 01:09:41 pm
Is it necessary to split the accessories up?
Are we still doing regions as well?

Accessories don't HAVE to be split up but it would be nice I think to have a category to view just the figures themselves. LEGO Dimensions probably doesn't need an accessories sub-category as there isn't much in the way of accessories other than from a few pouches and carrying cases. In regards to Infinity though there's the playsets and power discs as well as any and all accessories such as totes or what not (I know GS carries an ornament encasement you can use for your Infinity characters). Skylanders have plenty of accessories that might clutter up their listing as well. Amiibos have a few case/bag accessories that I'm aware of but maybe not enough to justify a sub-category.

As for regions, I would think that renaming them with the region denoted in the title was a workable fix. Then perhaps you could have an "Open Figure" listing that's for all regions? Amiibos seem to be the only line that is really affected by this conundrum.  :P


So how's this look...

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures & Accessories
Disney Infinity Figures & Accessories
LEGO Dimensions Figures & Accessories
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures & Accessories

It would definitely be helpful if the "interactive figures" section was broken down into individual product lines.  They are as independent from each other as PS4, Wii U and Xbox One.

You mean like series 1 and series 2?

I think he was just agreeing with the idea of them being separated by franchises rather than just all lumped together as "interactive figures" (what it is currently)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 13, 2016, 01:50:58 pm
It would definitely be helpful if the "interactive figures" section was broken down into individual product lines.  They are as independent from each other as PS4, Wii U and Xbox One.

You mean like series 1 and series 2?

Desocietas summed it up pretty well. I think breaking them down by series such as all of Disney 1.0, 2.0 & 3.0 getting their own sub-categories would be a tad obnoxious especially considering most all of them have their release denoted in their listing already (as do most all of the Skylanders). Right now I think the only hold ups are whether or not to lump in accessories with the figures (I'd prefer they not be but if the majority want it that way that's fine) and what to do about out of packaging Amiibo figures in regards to region (something I  think is a moot issue once they're opened, at worst there should be a "Open Figure/All Regions" entry for those that can't decide/determine).
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: rayne315 on May 13, 2016, 03:30:35 pm
I would either suggest putting the accessories in with the figres for what they are for OR lumping all the accessories together in one category for all interactive figures (I do not know but suspect their aren't all that many accessories yet)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 14, 2016, 03:25:18 am
I would either suggest putting the accessories in with the figres for what they are for OR lumping all the accessories together in one category for all interactive figures (I do not know but suspect their aren't all that many accessories yet)

Oooh I hadn't thought of that. I kinda like that idea.

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Figures
Interactive Figure Items & Accessories
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures

How's that look?  :)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 15, 2016, 10:04:28 pm
I'm not sure about lumping together accessories, it sounds like it could quickly become super messy and people would probably ask to change them again.

While we're on the subject though, should we rename "Interactive Figures" to "Toys to Life", since that's what manufacturers and stores call them now?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: rayne315 on May 16, 2016, 01:50:20 pm
I'm not sure about lumping together accessories, it sounds like it could quickly become super messy and people would probably ask to change them again.

While we're on the subject though, should we rename "Interactive Figures" to "Toys to Life", since that's what manufacturers and stores call them now?

personally I think interactive figures from a collectors standpoint is both more descriptive of what they are and a nicer more desirable sound than "Toys to life"

what sounds better to you:

I just finished my interactive figure collection.
I just finished my toys to life collection.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 16, 2016, 02:31:29 pm
I actually hadn't heard of the term "toys to life"! Did a quick search around to see what the various NA retailers call them:

Gamestop : Interactive gaming figures
Amazon : Interactive gaming figures
Best Buy : Toys to Life
Wal-mart: (lumped together with games)
Target: Toys to Life
Frys: accessories
Newegg: accessories
Toys R Us: poor figures... amiibo have their own category, skylanders have their own categories, and disney infinity is categorized under "easter basket fillers"  :'(

Hm, I had no idea...
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 16, 2016, 08:48:32 pm
For some reason I don't like the name Toys-to-Life because it almost sounds like a brand name or something. Interactive Figures sounds more generic and broad.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: abe on May 16, 2016, 09:04:26 pm
I too prefer "Interactive Figures" over "Toys to Life". Figures like Amiibo don't exactly "come to life" in many games and do little more than unlock stuff and things.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 16, 2016, 09:14:03 pm
very true
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 17, 2016, 01:41:55 am
I'm on the side of "Interactive Figures/Interactive Gaming Figures" myself but I wouldn't be opposed if they became "Interactive Gaming Figures / Toys to Life".  ;)

So there's a consensus on the Figure categories at least?

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Figures
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures

I went ahead and browsed Amazon on what might be considered accessories for these games...

Amiibo Accessories
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515xRGDafFL._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41udYX9mt7L._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EfvLFJXaL._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419Ff7hzRuL._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/214SqQkGnQL._AC_US160_.jpg)

LEGO Dimensions Accessories
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Hohilje0L._AA115_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Jj66aCnsL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lk5yjpLQL._AC_US160_.jpg)

Disney Infinity Accessories
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510LT9QkB7L._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61bYO9830+L._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51gJOMRi8dL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51iErBFhTkL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51nPcIQz-hL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41zO40K+bzL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eS3T7w+eL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51+Iq1tH35L._AC_US160_.jpg)

Skylanders Accessories
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QdmZMIaAL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eRrA4hMSL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KB3d6aTuL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LkSTozl4L._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511+F97CfIL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yyu7nZosL._AC_US160_.jpg) (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41pH5DQmUYL._AC_US160_.jpg)

It seems we already have sub-categories for some of these under "Swag" (I wouldn't mind it if that category got renamed  :P). The totes and bags can go under "Carrying Cases & Bags" and if possible could stand a slight renaming to "Carrying Cases, Bags & Displays" to accommodate the stands/displays. Then again, the stands could go under "Toys/Novelties" sub-category as well. I think things like the Skylander Traps and Vehicles as well as the Infinity Power Discs and Playset Pieces should remain in the same categories as their respective figures.

So based on that, how's about these categories then...

Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Figures / Power Discs / Play Set Pieces
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures / Traps / Vehicles
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: badATchaos on May 17, 2016, 08:28:26 am
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/214SqQkGnQL._AC_US160_.jpg)
I'd list the infrared amiibo scanner as a 3DS accessory.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: abe on May 17, 2016, 09:45:18 am
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/214SqQkGnQL._AC_US160_.jpg)
I'd list the infrared amiibo scanner as a 3DS accessory.

That makes far more sense than Amiibo accessory.
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: ignition365 on May 17, 2016, 11:00:41 am
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51iErBFhTkL._AC_US160_.jpg)
Woah, a Disney Infinity Waffle maker?  :p
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 17, 2016, 12:18:50 pm
Carrying cases should probably go under "swag - carrying cases" (renaming "swag" was discussed in another thread, if we settle on something it could be changed at the same time  ::) )

I think most of the accessories fit in one swag subcategory.


As for Toys to Life, I remember someone asking about it in a thread since amiibo cards aren't figures; if the general concensus is to keep interactive figures though, I see no point in changing that  :)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 17, 2016, 01:54:15 pm
Carrying cases should probably go under "swag - carrying cases" (renaming "swag" was discussed in another thread, if we settle on something it could be changed at the same time  ::) )

I think most of the accessories fit in one swag subcategory.


As for Toys to Life, I remember someone asking about it in a thread since amiibo cards aren't figures; if the general concensus is to keep interactive figures though, I see no point in changing that  :)

Maybe a change to "Interactive Figures/ Interactive Cards"? That way we can put the e-Reader cards in there too?  ;D
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: rayne315 on May 17, 2016, 01:58:53 pm
Carrying cases should probably go under "swag - carrying cases" (renaming "swag" was discussed in another thread, if we settle on something it could be changed at the same time  ::) )

I think most of the accessories fit in one swag subcategory.


As for Toys to Life, I remember someone asking about it in a thread since amiibo cards aren't figures; if the general concensus is to keep interactive figures though, I see no point in changing that  :)

Maybe a change to "Interactive Figures/Interactive Cards"? That way we can put the e-Reader cards in there too?  ;D

Im a fan of this designation and it has my vote now
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on May 19, 2016, 06:56:04 pm
I personally "Interactive figures and cards" for the sake of concision. Does it sound clear enough?
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 20, 2016, 01:47:58 am
I personally "Interactive Figures and Cards" for the sake of cohesion. Does it sound clear enough?

That works for me.  :)

So we're looking at:

Interactive Figures and Cards
Amiibo Cards
Amiibo Figures
Disney Infinity Figures/Power Discs/Play Sets
LEGO Dimensions Figures
Nintendo e-Reader Cards
Pokemon Rumble U NFC Figures
Skylanders Figures/Traps/Vehicles


Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: desocietas on May 20, 2016, 03:43:51 am
I like it!
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: telly on May 22, 2016, 01:21:59 am
I like it as well! It will be nice to see it more organized  :)
Title: Re: Amiibo & others listings
Post by: karyann on June 23, 2016, 08:39:59 am
Just a quick update to mention that this change is currently in the works! I don't know when it will be applied, but it's being worked on.