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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: retrew on May 24, 2017, 10:45:59 pm
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I thought that would grab some attention. What I mean by worthless is unless someone is backing up every game update and DLC for every 7th gen console and beyond a lot of the games people buy for nostalgia will be incomplete broken messes. What does everyone else think?
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Depends on the games, but it could be said that certain games from this gen and last gen, primarily on the Xbox and Playstation side, will struggle in the future without their updates, running poorly from the start or with bad bugs.
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I kinda like the Wii U.
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There are groups out there that actually do keep games, patches, and DLC archived. However, while the actual servers are up and running, you don't see them too often in public as the companies consider it a form of piracy and will ban the account/console if they detect it.
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Honestly, I find it hard to believe that they'll ever take down the shops. On the other hand, the PSP store is already down, DSi went down earlier this year, and the OG Xbox had DLC and such and that is not available too.
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I'd love to see, before end of support, the various platforms offer ways to access patches and such offline.
But so far, all three of those are easily hacked/modded, I just don't know how readily available DSi content is for modchips.
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I agree with Ignition a bit. I think we should be getting close to a state where all our data (digital, DLC, patches, etc.) should be transferable. Well, I hope so. Maybe patches will eventually be made available in the future, even if things go against the consumer.
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Which ones are in 6th gen? I keep thinking about procs when I hear this term.
Perhaps I can sum things up, but I think that basically any console that is just a low-end computer is worthless as a game machine, and have more value as a media player (DVD/BD/HD-DVD/streaming).
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Which ones are in 6th gen? I keep thinking about procs when I hear this term.
Dreamcast, GameCube, Xbox, & PS2
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Also, the Wii hardly uses patches. I'm only aware of one game that had a patch (Skyward Sword).
Personally, I hope that both 360 and PS3 will support offline patching. I believe both systems support similar functionality, so an effort plus making patches available for download through their respective websites.
When Sony shut down the PSP version of the Playstaton Store they still allowed users to download already purchased software and online multiplayer. They also released a PC tool called Playstation Network Downloader that would allow you to download PSP content to your PSP from the Playstation Store through your PC.
I honestly expect Sony to keep up this practice for any future systems that reach end of support.
Here's hoping that continues.
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Most patches and updates aren't to fix game-breaking glitches, though (there are exceptions, I know). They're usually small updates or small bug fixes. Most games you can play right out of the box without internet or updates (at least the campaign/story modes).
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Most games from the other generation will still be highly playable even after the support for them dies. So saying they will be worthless is a pretty inflammatory statement. The worst thing I can see happening with some games that do not depend on online play is patches not being available that fix game breaking bugs.
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With consoles, I feel like they are a dying breed. As much as I do love consoles, sadly they are slowly dying off. A lot of things now of days is either going on PC or on Mobile. With how the world is most people are on the go a lot. so things like smartphones, psp's, NDS's and such are more used. While PC's are all over the place and they are used for everything and easy enough to access one. While console you have to buy it and setup it up in your house and make more time for it than the other two. Like some jobs, you can take a break or have lunch and play a game on a computer at work, or your own laptop or smart phone or such. You don't have an easy time to play a console. Of course, you can try to make time to play on a console but when you add in everything else in someone's everyday life it could be a lot harder to make time for a console vs the rest. On top of the price for games and such too. I rather not see console die but I feel like it's heading there.
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I do not see consoles dying off at all.
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I don't play on PC because my PC (for the most part) is for work. I don't put games on my computers because I like to keep work and gaming separate. So I very much prefer console gaming.
I know I have Steam account and Stealth Inc. 2 on my old laptop: I never even booted it up though :P
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Playing games on a phone sucks. Consoles are so much better.
Yeah, PCs are good for that, too. But a lot of people (me included), don't like gaming on a PC. I personally don't like the keyboard/mouse set-up, I much prefer a controller. And I don't like worrying about compatibility, patches, 3d cards, etc. A console is just pop in and go.
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Honestly a lot of people work behind a computer all and sometimes they just don't want to sit behind or even deal with a computer but want to just play a game. Also if you're worried about patches/DLC just get the GOTY/greatest hits/whatever the hell else those are called since those usually containt that stuff...
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I just figure someone's backing up most of this stuff... some of it will inevitably become lost to the sands of digital time.
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This is why the PS4 Pro and XB1X really put a span in the works for my longterm collecting of those consoles: I will want to play these games on original hardware, but with the best performance, so I'll have to buy the upgrades and then get started with all the game updates once again. Trouble is, I absolutely love my Forza XB1 revving up and was very happy with my Nathan Drake bundle.
For Wii U, this is fine so long as my consoles don't give up on me. However, people can print off these inlays and this highlights the importance of buying sealed for me, which ij turn would be problematic when buying later down the line after the servers are gone.
I'm sure we'll see a comprehensive Netflix style library available to us at some point, which isn't the same, but I hope the solution comes sooner than later.