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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: oldgamerz on October 19, 2017, 09:08:39 am
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As some of you know A new Call Of Duty game is coming and, you guessed it it's another world war 2 First Person shooter game as if they just plain ran out of ideas. I used to like Call of Duty series but in my opinion, what are they doing creating another world war 2 shooter? as if they are starting their entire franchise all over again. I am just plain sick of world war 2 shooters. world war 1 barly gets any attention and I can't figure out why. this is crazy I mean all the WWII battles are covered on the PS2 there was 4 games for original Xbox and PS2 and countless PC games featuring Call Of Duty.
this is laughable out of all wars done call of duty has to backtrack world war 2. What about the Cival War or the Mexican American war, they made strategy games for those wars instead of battlefield sims.
there is so many other ideas COD could stick with and they come up with another graphics update to the second world war >:( and come to think if it featured another war I might have just bought a PS4. of course there is Battlefield 1 but I think that is online multiplayer only
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
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The Mexican-American War and the Civil War weren't fought with modern weapons. That makes a big difference. If the weapons suck, so will the game. I didn't play Battlefield 1, but that has to be the cutoff for modern weaponry.
COD4: Modern Warfare was my jam. Modern weapons. Not future laser gun and jetpack shit. Bullets and shrapnel. That's how I like my Call of Duty.
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
Again as I feel they should be able to honor the war veterans, and that is what I thought they were doing when they first started out. I mean it all was censored even then the real horrors of war were never displayed in which I liked that aspect. but turning ww2 into a fantasy I feel is worse, it shoves the dignity of war veterans down much further than just a video game about actual battle worlds. war should never be toyed with but I always liked the history aspect of the historical games.
IMO turning ww2 into a fantasy is like saying ww2 didn't happen also without censoring like in all of the games it would turn it into brutal doom with people in which is also not good at all in my opinion.
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The Mexican-American War and the Civil War weren't fought with modern weapons. That makes a big difference. If the weapons suck, so will the game. I didn't play Battlefield 1, but that has to be the cutoff for modern weaponry.
COD4: Modern Warfare was my jam. Modern weapons. Not future laser gun and jetpack shit. Bullets and shrapnel. That's how I like my Call of Duty.
I am into single player campaigns only guys, and I like the challenge of shooting with bolt action rifles from time to time, Battlefield 1 does have some portable machine guns buy the way I seen some replays from it.
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I think it's more of a breath of fresh air going back to boots on the ground and actual war. :). I remember when I was sick of world war II shooters too but COD hasn't released one in almost 10 years and ive grown to miss world at war which was my favorite COD and since then their has been a bunch of sci fi jet pack we are having wars in 2080 on the moon b.s year after year. The fans have been almost begging for boots on the ground since they introduced the jetpacks and they never listened. I'm one of the ones who are happy to see a war game be a war game again. If I wanted Halo i'd buy Halo. Call of Duty is finally going back in their lane. Infinite Warfare is still one of the most disliked video games in history on YouTube and I agree that it's awful.
As for your suggestions I do agree that their are so many wars that games don't touch as much. Civil and Vietnam wars being 2 that really need a epic game and story. I never got why they don't make a vietnam war game. Niether COD or Battleifeld has. That war was crazy brutal and has tons of stories behind it. Revolutionary war as well. But like Turf said Civil War guns for an online multiplayer would be clunky and boring. The COD community as a whole is a community that plays a fast reflex tournamnet shooter with fast guns and quick score multipliers. The guns of the civil war era wouldn't compliment the style for online competitive.
Also Battlefield 1 has singleplayer campaign. A pretty good one too. :D.
If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
Only the Multiplayer is being butchered. In their words to "Preserve a friendly and inviting atmosphere for all players as the multiplayer is meant to have fun and get together on a social platform and not to be historically driven" but more or less it was their excuse for having their balls in a jar from SJW elites that run modern media. But SledgeHammer has confirmed in the trailer and in their forums that the campaign will be historically accurate and feature swastikas, nazi symbols, reference to the holocaust, extreme gore, and replicated battle scenes. The Zombies mode is also called "Nazi" zombies and they didn't censor the word as far as I know and it looks extremely grusome and vile compared to the other arcade looking zombies COD has had. :)
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I used to get irritated by it, especially when COD was way more popular and bigger during the B02 and MW3 days, but now it seems like more and more people don't really care. Sure, it will still sell millions, but in terms of its prevalence within pop culture and bring mentioned all the time, I've noticed it far less in recent years. Personally, I think COD is a stupid, generic series, but am not bothered by another coming out. I just wont buy it.
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I feel completely indifferent. I'm not into military-shooters, but I don't hate them either.
But is anyone here surprised by this? As long as the series continues to make tons of money, they're going to continue making the games.
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
Everybody knows the allied forces fought against the Meanie party, everyone used nerf guns and made PBJs together and had a good ole' time.
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
Everybody knows the allied forces fought against the Meanie party, everyone used nerf guns and made PBJs together and had a good ole' time.
We're actually supposed to call it the "Allied Service" now. Official vocab guidelines state that "force" is too aggressive.
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Just stumbled upon this and thought it relevant.
(https://i.imgur.com/us8az.jpg)
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Just stumbled upon this and thought it relevant.
(https://i.imgur.com/us8az.jpg)
Yep. I lol'd. That's awesome.
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I played the beta for the game and I actually liked the new mode they added called "War". It's not a new mode to FPS gaming, been around for years, but it's an attack/defense mode where people have an objective, rather than just running around with bad spawns and killstreak hell in the normal multiplayer. Multi-staged linear objective map that is actually fun. Genuinely surprised as I haven't felt like that about the series since Black Ops 1.
Then I played regular multiplayer and it's the same chaotic, unfun, mess as always with bad spawns, killstreaks that reward already winning teams, one hit kill quick shot snipers, and that really put a damper on the experience. There's good ideas, but it's held back by being a Call of Duty game lol
I don't personally mind a return to WW2, though other wars would've been interesting, though most other wars wouldn't make for a good shooter. Battlefield 1 worked well enough though. I wouldn't mind seeing Vietnam again and in particular, I'd like to see them do a fictional war, like they did with Bad Company 2.
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should have stopped after cod4
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That depends on if it's sucks or is actually good with the call of duty franchise it could go either way.I'd say our odds are about 50/50
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I don't blame Activison at all for making more games after Cod 4, lol. They'd be mad not to with how successful it was. ::) And Cod 4 had plenty of problems with fragx3, killstreaks stacking after death, the M16, etc.
And I really don't think it's hurting anybody what they're doing now. It does feel like they've run out of ideas now that they've gone back to WW2 though...
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Yawn. Another entry in the cash cow franchise focusing on dumb multiplayer modes where you can get berated by 12 year old kids with a foul mouth or a someone with ganster/ghetto language spewing unintelligible drivel non-stop. No. Thanks.
Oh, and COD would actually be worth a crap if they had a lengthy single player campaign. Because the campaigns are pretty good. Take Advanced Warfare for example, that was one of the best campaigns I've played in a true FPS ever...until it ended after ~5 hours of playtime.
If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
This is stupid and wrong on so many levels. I won't bother going in to any deep details unless I get asked. Not surprised that this is more instance of political bullsh*t being injected in to our games. I will close this with a saying... Bonus points to anyone who knows who said this WITHOUT USING THE INTERNET. :D
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Also spoken as: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it".
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Yawn. Another entry in the cash cow franchise focusing on dumb multiplayer modes where you can get berated by 12 year old kids with a foul mouth or a someone with ganster/ghetto language spewing unintelligible drivel non-stop. No. Thanks.
Oh, and COD would actually be worth a crap if they had a lengthy single player campaign. Because the campaigns are pretty good. Take Advanced Warfare for example, that was one of the best campaigns I've played in a true FPS ever...until it ended after ~5 hours of playtime.
If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
This is stupid and wrong on so many levels. I won't bother going in to any deep details unless I get asked. Not surprised that this is more instance of political bullsh*t being injected in to our games. I will close this with a saying... Bonus points to anyone who knows who said this WITHOUT USING THE INTERNET. :D
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Also spoken as: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it".
They aren't injecting political elements into the game, I think it's actually quite the opposite. With the climate as it is, I think they want to have a game with as much widespread mainstream appeal and zero controversy as possible, which wrongly takes a pivotal point in history and gamifies it too much. As it turns out, trying to have no controversy, leads to controversy a lot of the time.
On the other hand, we got Wolfenstein 2 who is embracing everything about itself, and tapping into elements of the current political climate, and making it work in its marketing, which is something only this specific game at this specific time in history can really do and boy do I want that game lol
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It is a political issue. Removing certain things because it may offend someone is by its very definition political. Just look at all of the idiots wanting to removing historical statues in the USA right now because it may or does "offend" someone. :)
That's not particularly a political issue, it's about making sure to have widespread appeal. It's more of a clear business decision than anything meant to be specifically political. I don't think Activision gives a crap about what statement they are making, it's simply "What will get us the most gamers", which means making things as a safe and generic as possible, regardless of historical inaccuracy. Also the statues coming down have plenty of reasons to be gone, being that they are glorifying the confederacy. See little issue with them being put into private collections or museums and the cheap, junk, ones tossed into the trash. Should read up a little more on them, the statues were far more insidious than simply being historical remembrance.
Care to expand what you're referring to? I haven't read or seen much about this game. Because last I checked its still about killing Nazi's yea?
Basically there was a twitter ad that they did with the words "Make America Nazi-Free Again" among something else said I think, but I forget the full deal. Taps into current issues while not seeming out of place with the game itself due to the subject matter of Nazi's occupying the USA.
CODWW2 and Wolfenstein 2 are basically two opposite ends of the spectrum right now. One is trying to be safe with broad, mainstream, appeal, the other is just "Fuck Nazi's" and is certainly getting my money...though after Super Mario Odyssey, because some jerks decided that releasing them on the same day would be alright!
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
This is stupid and wrong on so many levels. I won't bother going in to any deep details unless I get asked. Not surprised that this is more instance of political bullsh*t being injected in to our games. I will close this with a saying... Bonus points to anyone who knows who said this WITHOUT USING THE INTERNET. :D
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Also spoken as: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it".
They aren't removing historical accuracy or censoring anything, that was only a myth that misinformed articles spread before they made their announcements and released their trailers. The Swastika was visible in the campaign trailer and sledgehammer has confirmed that the symbols, verbage and battle scenes will be historically duplicated with no censoring or altering. They also reference the holocaust in the trailer, speak on the Jewish casualties and have a game mode called "Nazi Zombies" in which you kill the undead fleet of Hitler's desciples. They held no punches thankfully. :)
I hate censorship more than almost anything and I almost didn't pre order WW2 when I heard it was going to be a SJW fest but even through the turbulent and racially diviscive time in America, they still cared enough about historcial accuracy to shrug off the SJWs complaining and will keep it an authentic World War II experience. The way the media is trying to manipulate everything from the past to the present and make entire fabrications especially from the liberal elite is scary. So it's good the big titles like Wolfenstien and COD show what the facts are. I just hope it's extremely gorey and dark as the war was.
Multiplayer is a different story as it's a social hub with fictional tournament style battle meant for interaction and not political or historical accuracy. So with Multiplayer their is female soldiers and black soldiers on both sides including axis just for inclusion so people can play as themselves. Which is ok imo. :)
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If I'm not mistaken, they are removing a lot of historical accuracies from the game so as to not offend folks.
This is stupid and wrong on so many levels. I won't bother going in to any deep details unless I get asked. Not surprised that this is more instance of political bullsh*t being injected in to our games. I will close this with a saying... Bonus points to anyone who knows who said this WITHOUT USING THE INTERNET. :D
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
Also spoken as: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it".
They aren't removing historical accuracy or censoring anything, that was only a myth that misinformed articles spread before they made their announcements and released their trailers. The Swastika was visible in the campaign trailer and sledgehammer has confirmed that the symbols, verbage and battle scenes will be historically duplicated with no censoring or altering. They also reference the holocaust in the trailer, speak on the Jewish casualties and have a game mode called "Nazi Zombies" in which you kill the undead fleet of Hitler's desciples. They held no punches thankfully. :)
I hate censorship more than almost anything and I almost didn't pre order WW2 when I heard it was going to be a SJW fest but even through the turbulent and racially diviscive time in America, they still cared enough about historcial accuracy to shrug off the SJWs complaining and will keep it an authentic World War II experience. The way the media is trying to manipulate everything from the past to the present and make entire fabrications especially from the liberal elite is scary. So it's good the big titles like Wolfenstien and COD show what the facts are. I just hope it's extremely gorey and dark as the war was.
Multiplayer is a different story as it's a social hub with fictional tournament style battle meant for interaction and not political or historical accuracy. So with Multiplayer their is female soldiers and black soldiers on both sides including axis just for inclusion so people can play as themselves. Which is ok imo. :)
That actually did clarify things. I double checked the story trailer and it did have swastikas in it, which came out a month ago, so wasn't information I had, and my point about them wanting more widespread appeal was pretty right on for at least the multiplayer portion as historical accuracy (As far as CoD game would do it), isn't really important there. I'll probably rent the game to just run through the short story mode when it comes out. I don't expect it to be great, but they are usually competent.
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I'm indifferent, it doesn't really affect me. I fell off the series at Black Ops, still enjoy the prior games though.
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Dont care munch. I use to be a big fan years ago on Xbox 360 (own 7 COD games), but lost interest after COD Ghost.
I may buy another COD if I see it for 10$.
(COD4 still one of my favorite FPS of all time, it was so unique when it came out.)
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I'm not sure how I feel about more CoD. I was a big fan of MW3 and Black Ops II. But after they introduced the jet packs in Advanced Warfare, I stopped buying them. I might take the plunge for WWII, but I'm still on the fence about it.