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Title: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 10, 2018, 02:36:39 am
I've basically spent the past two weeks playing Monster Hunter World and catching up on a D&D stream I stopped watching like a year ago, practically as much time as I put into Monster Hunter (over 100 hours), I listened to D&D, and while I'm not exactly looking to jump into a pen & paper game (or assisted with something like Tabletop Simulator) right now, I was wondering if there's been any good recent games in a D&D setting.  Somewhere in the just couple years only because certain RPG's I feel are tougher to checkout the more outdated they get.

It seems so ripe for it, but I never hear about any games based on it these days.  Like is there are a Skyrim/Witcher D&D equivalent?  Seems like a setup ripe for games and I know they have been made in the past, but I thought about it and not much really came up for me.  I feel like I'm just kinda wanting something with a real engaging fantasy world right now as I haven't played a pure sword and magic fantasy game in a long time and I wouldn't count stuff like the Dark Souls 3 DLC from last year, due to its lack of storytelling, or Monster Hunter World, because it has no real story or world building and is mostly to progress you towards new monsters to kill.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: emporerdragon on February 10, 2018, 03:02:44 am
For recent games, I'd say Divinity: Original Sin 2 is probably the closest you'd get to full on D&D in a game. If you want to go older, there is also the Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate series. Dragon Age: Origins can also fall into this as the game actually uses a d20 system under the hood for everything (The KOTOR games are the same way).

And if you want to go full meta, there are the Knights of Pen & Paper games, which are RPGs where you play as people playing a tabletop RPG.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 10, 2018, 03:11:41 am
For recent games, I'd say Divinity: Original Sin 2 is probably the closest you'd get to full on D&D in a game. If you want to go older, there is Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate. Dragon Age: Origins can also fall into this as the game actually uses a d20 system under the hood for everything (The KOTOR games are the same way).

And if you want to go full meta, there are the Knights of Pen & Paper games, which are RPGs where you play as people playing a tabletop RPG.

I have heard of the Divinity: Original Sin games.  i thought about checking those out since they are recent.  Not really wanting to go back too far as I have trouble getting into certain styles of older RPG's.  Going back to clunky mechanics and UI's drive me nuts lol
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: arkaneer on February 10, 2018, 07:04:09 am
I would also definitely recommend Divinity:Original Sin 2, the game is amazing.

I played it for 50 hours and then was ill for a couple of weeks and didn't get back to it, but I certainly will.

It's another massive timesink though mate. So much to see and do!
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: 98dgreen on February 10, 2018, 07:22:45 am
It isn't recent but the Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance is pretty good.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: undertakerprime on February 12, 2018, 02:20:11 pm
Well, it sure as hell ain’t AD&D Heroes of the Lance on NES  ;D

Like the previous poster mentioned, I always enjoyed the Baldur’s Gate Dark Alliance games.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: soera on February 12, 2018, 02:40:53 pm
There is actually a D&D game like Baldur's gate. Called Dungeons and Dragons heroes. Xbox OG exclusive.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: burningdoom on February 12, 2018, 02:46:57 pm
Neverwinter Nights on PC is the BEST D&D-based video game, as far as I'm concerned.

But if you're into consoles only, Dungeons & Dragons Heroes (XBox) was already mentioned. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 1 & 2 is fantastic (PS2, XBox, GameCube). And while not technically D&D, Champions of Norrath and Champions: Return to Arms (both PS2) is as close as it can get without getting sued.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: desocietas on February 12, 2018, 05:36:43 pm
I've played a little bit of the first Divinity: Original Sin game, and it still holds up very well. Great for co-op play. I agree that it's one of the best games to emulate the tabletop D&D experience in regard to lots of talking with NPCs, decision making influencing consequences, looting locked chests/rooms, and interesting skill/perk building for your character.

A looser D&D game that I played a while back was on the 3DS: Crimson Shroud though it's a less in-depth but still fun.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 12, 2018, 05:49:03 pm
I'm mostly preferring PC stuff, easier to find, unless there's a good PS4 game, but also only relatively recent stuff in the past couple years.  Neverwinter Nights seems to be getting an enhanced version releasing sometime though, so maybe I could check that out whenever it releases.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: desocietas on February 12, 2018, 06:13:12 pm
Pillars of Eternity, perhaps, as another option? I haven't played it yet, but it seems to have gotten positive reviews as well.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: arkaneer on February 13, 2018, 09:40:34 am
Torment: Tides of Numenera is supposed to be good...it can also be picked up quite cheaply for the PS4 (in the UK at least).
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: burningdoom on February 13, 2018, 01:36:50 pm
Pillars of Eternity, perhaps, as another option? I haven't played it yet, but it seems to have gotten positive reviews as well.

Got that one for Christmas. Haven't started it yet. Glad to hear it has good reviews.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 15, 2018, 03:34:04 pm
Perfect timing on the Divinity recommend, as Steam just started a big sale and the Divinity series is on sale with it.  I can pick up Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced for only 13 bucks.  Figured I'd do a headsup for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: desocietas on February 15, 2018, 05:45:55 pm
The bf is trying out Kingdom Come Deliverance for anyone who doesn't actually want the fantasy element of a D&D campaign. Feels like Skyrim (good and bad) but more as a simulation over fantasy. No magic, no dragons. I'm curious how the game turns out for him.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 15, 2018, 05:52:47 pm
The bf is trying out Kingdom Come Deliverance for anyone who doesn't actually want the fantasy element of a D&D campaign. Feels like Skyrim (good and bad) but more as a simulation over fantasy. No magic, no dragons. I'm curious how the game turns out for him.

I was kinda curious about that game myself.  Not super into pure medieval settings, but it seemed like it had some good ideas.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 16, 2018, 07:11:48 pm
Played a short bit of Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced and not sure if I'm liking the dual character setup.  It's different than just having party members in other RPG's, because they have two separate inventories and the gameplay revolves using both along with the dialogue.  The dialogue thing is weird, because then it's like I'm having a conversation with myself lol 

Also I really hate how I can't see stuff in the game like loot or placed items a lot of the time, because they don't highlight anything other than stuff that is revealed with perception.  That works in like Skyrim, because you are ground level and it's easier to see items, but you can't be at ground level in this and actually play.  Like there were lockpicks laying out in a spot, and I only found them because my mouse accidentally scrolled over them.  I know you can press alt and items in the immediate area has a big 'ole text bubble pop up, but that looks awful and I still had trouble picking loot off the ground for the first dungeon boss.  It all just seems inconvenient to me.

Really not sure if I'll keep on with the game or not...
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: desocietas on February 17, 2018, 01:17:08 am
Played a short bit of Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced and not sure if I'm liking the dual character setup.  It's different than just having party members in other RPG's, because they have two separate inventories and the gameplay revolves using both along with the dialogue.  The dialogue thing is weird, because then it's like I'm having a conversation with myself lol 

Also I really hate how I can't see stuff in the game like loot or placed items a lot of the time, because they don't highlight anything other than stuff that is revealed with perception.  That works in like Skyrim, because you are ground level and it's easier to see items, but you can't be at ground level in this and actually play.  Like there were lockpicks laying out in a spot, and I only found them because my mouse accidentally scrolled over them.  I know you can press alt and items in the immediate area has a big 'ole text bubble pop up, but that looks awful and I still had trouble picking loot off the ground for the first dungeon boss.  It all just seems inconvenient to me.

Really not sure if I'll keep on with the game or not...

That's understandable. I thought it mimicked tabletop D&D pretty well since in D&D, the DM can't tell you where every little item is and whether or not it's something you can or should interact with. Feels a little like cheating in other games because you can see everything immediately.

But yeah, I can see what you mean with how they first a team situation. It works pretty well if you have someone to play with, but I thought if you were playing solo, the personality choice you chose for the companion would then auto-determine their responses to you. However, if you chose No AI, that means you'd have to choose all the responses which, yeah, would make it feel like you were talking to yourself. If you already chose No AI, I think you'll have a chance to change it later.
Title: Re: Good D&D Based Games?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 17, 2018, 01:27:46 am
That's understandable. I thought it mimicked tabletop D&D pretty well since in D&D, the DM can't tell you where every little item is and whether or not it's something you can or should interact with. Feels a little like cheating in other games because you can see everything immediately.

But yeah, I can see what you mean with how they first a team situation. It works pretty well if you have someone to play with, but I thought if you were playing solo, the personality choice you chose for the companion would then auto-determine their responses to you. However, if you chose No AI, that means you'd have to choose all the responses which, yeah, would make it feel like you were talking to yourself. If you already chose No AI, I think you'll have a chance to change it later.

I think the item thing would've been easily fixed by just utilizing the perception range in game.  If you are within a certain distance of something, it highlights so that you can even know it's there.  Keep it within like 10 to 15 feet.  That would essentially be more like if you rolled for perception or investigation in table top when entering a location, with the DM pointing out what is in your immediate area.  I don't really need to walk into a room full of glowies, I just don't want to skip over something because it was literally too tiny to see on my screen or was lost within the debris of something else lol

That explains that abit better as I didn't understand what the AI thing really was and just ignored it.  I do understand the game is big on co-op, but sometimes that means the game isn't always the best for singleplayer.  Like Resident Evil 5 was specifically designed for co-op, even though you could totally play solo, but it was not the better experience going alone lol

I think I am gonna hold off on the game for now, just refund it as I'll just wait for another sale down the road if I really want to try it again.