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Title: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 21, 2018, 08:46:13 am
The Neo Geo Mini was officially announced by SNK, but we won't know more about the 40 games included in the system, the price or release date until next month. Now, some said they had access to the list of games, here what was "leaked";

    The King of Fighters ’95
    The King of Fighters ’97
    The King of Fighters ’98
    The King of Fighters 2000
    The King of Fighters 2002
    Art of Fighting
    Fatal Fury Special
    Real Bout Fatal Fury
    Garou: Mark of the Wolves
    Samurai Shodown II
    Samurai Shodown IV
    Samurai Shodown V Special
    The Last Blade 2
    World Heroes Perfect
    Kizuna Encounter
    Metal Slug
    Metal Slug 2
    Metal Slug 3
    Metal Slug 4
    Metal Slug 5
    Metal Slug X
    King of Monsters
    King of Monsters 2
    Shock Troopers
    Shock Troopers 2nd Squad
    Sengoku 3
    Ninja Master’s
    Top Player’s Golf
    Super Sidekicks
    Blazing Star
    Puzzled
    Magician Lord
    Robo Army
    Crossed Swords
    Mutation Nation
    3 Count Bout
    Last Resort
    Ghost Pilots
    Football Frenzy

I'm looking at that list, and their is plenty of great choices and questionable choices... why not King of Fighters 96, a far superior game than episode 95. Or why the first Super Sidekick and not a improved version. What about Art of Fighting 3?

Here the games released on Neo Geo MVS/AES that I would love to see on the Neo Geo Mini that are not on the leaked list;
- Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
- The King of Fighters 96
- The King of Fighters 2003
- Magical Drop 3
- Art of Fighting 3
- Windjammer
- Sengoku 1 and 2
- Neo Turf Masters
- Waku Waku 7
- Matrimelee
- Neo Bomberman

Which games would you like to see on the Neo Geo Mini? Your thought about the new mini console.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: tripredacus on May 21, 2018, 10:36:25 am
I won't buy emulators, so I won't be getting this.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: badATchaos on May 21, 2018, 11:26:51 am
I would want to see Aero Fighter, aka Sonic Wings.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 21, 2018, 01:59:18 pm
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 21, 2018, 02:15:18 pm
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?

I own a Neo Geo AES and CD, and I still prefer to play Neo Geo games on those consoles than a port. It feel more arcade authentic, no emulation bugs, slowdown or delay. And the Neo Geo arcade stick beat any controller when it's time to play SNK fighting games. But I get that the games are really to expensive. I bought mine 15 years ago while they were still at a relative decent price. These days you can still find good games for 50$ (Samurai Shodown 1 & 2, Fatal Fury Special, World heroes 2, Art of Fighting 2...).

One of my worry with the Neo Geo Mini is the quality of the emulation. Hopefully it is good has the NES and SNES mini.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: burningdoom on May 21, 2018, 02:44:38 pm
I bet it's just SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1 on cheap emulator hardware.

Since I already own that game on PS2, no need for me to get it.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 21, 2018, 05:12:16 pm
I bet it's just SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1 on cheap emulator hardware.

Since I already own that game on PS2, no need for me to get it.

SNK said it will have 40 games, while SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1 only have 16 titles. And according to the "leaked list" 10 titles from SNK Arcade Classics Vol. 1 won't be on the Neo Geo Mini.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 21, 2018, 05:15:46 pm
I would want to see Aero Fighter, aka Sonic Wings.

Agree, those 2 games are awesome and rarely ported on other consoles.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: sworddude on May 21, 2018, 07:07:43 pm
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?

to be fair you could say that with any console since most likely it is just a mere fraction of the price whether it would be a digital download or a physical copy

Battle garrega has a ps4 port wich is superior over the saturn version just to name some example.

You could potentially say it for every retro game and system that way also digital since the price difference is pretty substantial if your not going the everdrive route.

You could quit collecting for sega and nintendo systems since both have compialtion consoles or discs with most of the best games for a mere fraction of the price
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: spac316 on May 21, 2018, 09:26:58 pm
Would like to see Ninja Commando on it.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: zenimus on May 22, 2018, 04:43:08 am
Top Player's Golf -> Neo Turf Masters
The King of Fighters ’95 -> Baseball Stars 2
The King of Fighters ’97 -> Top Hunter
The King of Fighters 2000 -> Super Spy
Metal Slug 2 -> Ninja Commando
Samurai Shodown IV -> Twinkle Star Sprites

Most likely it would only have SNK produced games, maybe ADK as well.

Which would unfortunately mean a good number of excellent Neo titles are missing:

• Bust-a-Move (Taito)
• Aero Fighters 2 (Video System)
• Super Dodge Ball (Technos)
• Magical Drop III (Data East)
• Waku Waku 7 (Sunsoft)
• Viewpoint (Sammy)
• SVC Chaos (joint with Capcom)
• Breakers Revenge (Visco)
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: burningdoom on May 23, 2018, 02:48:32 pm
So I’m really not a fighting game fan. So my list will look much different than most here. Not even sure I can come up with 40 titles that I enjoy from SNK. Though the ones  I like are quite good:

1.   Crystalis (NES version) - MUST HAVE IMO, best game on the NES in my book.
2.   Aero Fighters
3.   Aero Fighters 2
4.   Aero Fighters 3
5.   Metal Slug
6.   Metal Slug 2
7.   Metal Slug 3
8.   Metal Slug 4
9.   Metal Slug 5
10.   Metal Slug 6
11.   Metal Slug 7
12.   Last Resort
13.   Magician Lord
14.   Sengoku
15.   Sengoku 2
16.   Sengoku 3
17.   Burning Fight
18.   Shock Troopers
19.   Athena
20.   Guerrilla War
21.   Ikari Warriors
22.   Ikari Warriors II: Victory Road
23.   Ikari Warriors III: The Rescue
24.   Athena
25.   Psycho Soldier (Athena 2)
26.   Vanguard 2
27.   Time Soldiers
28.   Samurai Shodown
29.   Samurai Shodown II
30.   Samurai Shodown III
31.   Samurai Shodown IV
32.   Samurai Shodown V
33.   Samurai Shodown VI
34.   Last Blade
35.   Last Blade 2
36.   The Art of Fighting
37.   Fatal Fury
38.   King of Fighters (any one of them)
39.   SNK vs. Capcom
40.   SNK vs. Capcom 2: Mark of the Millennium
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 24, 2018, 11:43:41 am
So I’m really not a fighting game fan. So my list will look much different than most here. Not even sure I can come up with 40 titles that I enjoy from SNK. Though the ones  I like are quite good:

1.   Crystalis (NES version) - MUST HAVE IMO, best game on the NES in my book.
2.   Aero Fighters
3.   Aero Fighters 2
4.   Aero Fighters 3
5.   Metal Slug
6.   Metal Slug 2
7.   Metal Slug 3
8.   Metal Slug 4
9.   Metal Slug 5
10.   Metal Slug 6
11.   Metal Slug 7
12.   Last Resort
13.   Magician Lord
14.   Sengoku
15.   Sengoku 2
16.   Sengoku 3
17.   Burning Fight
18.   Shock Troopers
19.   Athena
20.   Guerrilla War
21.   Ikari Warriors
22.   Ikari Warriors II: Victory Road
23.   Ikari Warriors III: The Rescue
24.   Athena
25.   Psycho Soldier (Athena 2)
26.   Vanguard 2
27.   Time Soldiers
28.   Samurai Shodown
29.   Samurai Shodown II
30.   Samurai Shodown III
31.   Samurai Shodown IV
32.   Samurai Shodown V
33.   Samurai Shodown VI
34.   Last Blade
35.   Last Blade 2
36.   The Art of Fighting
37.   King of Fighters (any one of them)

Many of those early titles from the 80s will be on a compilation on the Switch; SNK 40th anniversary.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: stealthrush on May 24, 2018, 03:40:23 pm
Would love to see Data East's Ghostlop added completed from prototype game similar to Star Fox 2 on the SNES Mini.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: burningdoom on May 24, 2018, 05:12:20 pm
There, updated it so my list goes to the full 40. Like I said, I'm not a big fighting game fan. So I just threw some SNK fighters at the end that I knew were fighting game fans' essentials.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: ffxik on May 27, 2018, 03:04:52 am
My only worry would be the quality.  I remember that dumpster fire that was the Neo Geo X. 
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 27, 2018, 11:11:55 am
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?

to be fair you could say that with any console since most likely it is just a mere fraction of the price whether it would be a digital download or a physical copy

Battle garrega has a ps4 port wich is superior over the saturn version just to name some example.

You could potentially say it for every retro game and system that way also digital since the price difference is pretty substantial if your not going the everdrive route.

You could quit collecting for sega and nintendo systems since both have compialtion consoles or discs with most of the best games for a mere fraction of the price

There is one key factor missing here: ownership.

Buying a game digitally or downloading a rom and playing it on an emulator or device like an everdrive is not ownership. Ownership is one of the key elements of collecting video games and when owning a specific game can be had at a fraction of what it costs on another system then people will often go that route.

The only reason to buy a Neo Geo console is to collect for it because you are really into the system. This is especially true of Neo Geo seeing how even the cheapest games for it cost as much as most more expensive games on other consoles. You have to really love SNK and have major financial resources to get into collecting for it. Sure, there are the few games that have never received a port outside the original AES/MVS hardware, but many of these games are not nearly as good as similar titles on Neo Geo hardware that have been ported.

I would LOVE to own an AES and collect for it, but in order for me to ever do this I'd have to be a lot more financially well off than I am, like as in making a quarter of a million a year or more. I know that making that much would not be necessary to collect for it, but at least to me bringing in that kind of cash would be the only way I could regularly justify paying $300+ for a single video game.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 27, 2018, 03:08:17 pm
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?

to be fair you could say that with any console since most likely it is just a mere fraction of the price whether it would be a digital download or a physical copy

Battle garrega has a ps4 port wich is superior over the saturn version just to name some example.

You could potentially say it for every retro game and system that way also digital since the price difference is pretty substantial if your not going the everdrive route.

You could quit collecting for sega and nintendo systems since both have compialtion consoles or discs with most of the best games for a mere fraction of the price

There is one key factor missing here: ownership.

Buying a game digitally or downloading a rom and playing it on an emulator or device like an everdrive is not ownership. Ownership is one of the key elements of collecting video games and when owning a specific game can be had at a fraction of what it costs on another system then people will often go that route.

The only reason to buy a Neo Geo console is to collect for it because you are really into the system. This is especially true of Neo Geo seeing how even the cheapest games for it cost as much as most more expensive games on other consoles. You have to really love SNK and have major financial resources to get into collecting for it. Sure, there are the few games that have never received a port outside the original AES/MVS hardware, but many of these games are not nearly as good as similar titles on Neo Geo hardware that have been ported.

I would LOVE to own an AES and collect for it, but in order for me to ever do this I'd have to be a lot more financially well off than I am, like as in making a quarter of a million a year or more. I know that making that much would not be necessary to collect for it, but at least to me bringing in that kind of cash would be the only way I could regularly justify paying $300+ for a single video game.

I don't know why everyone think that all the Neo Geo AES games are 300$+, I bought last year Samurai Shodown II loose for 20$ and World Heroes 2 complete for 80$. You need to search, but there is plenty of great titles for 100$ or least. When I look over great titles for NES, SNES, PC Engine, Saturn... complete in box( or even loose), they are usually in the 100-500$ price range, about the same price of an Neo Geo game complete. People just look at the 1000$+ Metal Slug games or Garou MOTW thinking they cannot affort a Neo Geo. Forget about those rare games at have a look at the more common one, there is plenty of amazing affortable games.

My guideline to get cheap Neo Geo AES games; buy japanese games (lot more commun), a game loose is usually half price if you don't care about a complete set, and I found the best deal are from Japanese sellers.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: burningdoom on May 27, 2018, 03:12:02 pm
My main issue with the Neo Geo is that most of its games are already available on other consoles in perfect or near perfect ports, which begs the question of why get a Neo Geo at all, even the mini? I had the chance recently to buy an AES for a decent price, but passed on it because getting only a couple games for it would likely cost me just as much as what I paid for the console. Not only that, but the best games for the console have already been ported so is there really a point beyond bragging rights?

to be fair you could say that with any console since most likely it is just a mere fraction of the price whether it would be a digital download or a physical copy

Battle garrega has a ps4 port wich is superior over the saturn version just to name some example.

You could potentially say it for every retro game and system that way also digital since the price difference is pretty substantial if your not going the everdrive route.

You could quit collecting for sega and nintendo systems since both have compialtion consoles or discs with most of the best games for a mere fraction of the price

There is one key factor missing here: ownership.

Buying a game digitally or downloading a rom and playing it on an emulator or device like an everdrive is not ownership. Ownership is one of the key elements of collecting video games and when owning a specific game can be had at a fraction of what it costs on another system then people will often go that route.

The only reason to buy a Neo Geo console is to collect for it because you are really into the system. This is especially true of Neo Geo seeing how even the cheapest games for it cost as much as most more expensive games on other consoles. You have to really love SNK and have major financial resources to get into collecting for it. Sure, there are the few games that have never received a port outside the original AES/MVS hardware, but many of these games are not nearly as good as similar titles on Neo Geo hardware that have been ported.

I would LOVE to own an AES and collect for it, but in order for me to ever do this I'd have to be a lot more financially well off than I am, like as in making a quarter of a million a year or more. I know that making that much would not be necessary to collect for it, but at least to me bringing in that kind of cash would be the only way I could regularly justify paying $300+ for a single video game.

I don't know why everyone think that all the Neo Geo AES games are 300$+, I bought last year Samurai Shodown II loose for 20$ and World Heroes 2 complete for 80$. You need to search, but there is plenty of great titles for 100$ or least. When I look over great titles for NES, SNES, PC Engine, Saturn... complete in box( or even loose), they are usually in the 100-500$ price range, about the same price of an Neo Geo game complete. People just look at the 1000$+ Metal Slug games or Garou MOTW thinking they cannot affort a Neo Geo. Forget about those rare games at have a look at the more common one, there is plenty of amazing affortable games.

My guideline to get cheap Neo Geo AES games; buy japanese games (lot more commun), a game loose is usually half price if you don't care about a complete set, and I found the best deal are from Japanese sellers.

The fact that you think $100 is cheap for a game is the difference right there. Most people don't think $100 is a cheap game.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on May 27, 2018, 07:56:05 pm
Less than 100$ its cheap for a Neo Geo game... but I get it it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on June 09, 2018, 09:57:34 pm
Neo Geo Mini presentation tonight

https://www.youtube.com/snkplaymoreGame
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: kypherion on June 12, 2018, 02:57:07 pm
One of the king of fighters games.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: burningdoom on June 13, 2018, 02:32:01 pm
Behold:

(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/neo-geo-mini.png?w=1000&h=563&crop=1)

And yes, you can also hook it up to your TV via HDMI. That was my first concern when seeing it.
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: ffxik on September 21, 2018, 10:24:31 pm
Well I was on the fence about it.  I happened across a review from Ashens today and it pretty much killed my interest in the thing.

So it seems the little cabinet that could is built pretty well, and the small display it has is also really good.  Hooking it up to a T.V. is where the problems start.  The minor problem apparently is that the upscaler isn't as good as the one that Nintendo is using and the picture is blurry.  The major problem is with the controllers you can purchase.  They maybe made to look like those sweet pads the Neo Geo CD came with, but are minus the micro switches in favor of analogue input.  With the way that thumbstick is designed it makes some games nigh unplayable.

You can watch his take on it here. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1NwL75xLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1NwL75xLQ)
Title: Re: Neo Geo Mini; which game you want on the system?
Post by: fredlepirate on October 08, 2018, 01:28:14 am
I bought the Japanese version. Like most review said, the mini cabinet, control and the small screen are great. When hook up on a TV, it doesn't look has good than the NES and SNES mini. You could compare to the quality from old SNK collection released on PS2 and Wii. They look and play fine, but the pixel are not sharp and bright. It also only display in 720P...

I did not bought a extra controller. I'm a huge fan and owner of the Neo Geo CD, and love the controller. But the new one do not have the clicking sound, anyone that played any old SNK system know what Im talking about. The sound and precision of the joystick/pad are quite unique. Also, SNK made the stupid choose to change the button placement, making some games (Metal Slug) stupidly annoying to shoot, jump, and use the grenade. At least they could had a option to customize the button in the option menu...

If your not a big SNK fan, pass it, or wait to see it at discount.