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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: seether on July 12, 2018, 06:32:15 am
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Because they hold their value for much longer and I feel like less of a chump for buying early xD
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joke--What kind of switch?--joke
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To one his/her own. Most multiplats I prefer on the PS4 and typically on these games the difference in price is minimal on the second hand market. But yes, exclusive Nintendo games typically hold their value way better than PS4 or XBONE exclusives.
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I am not aware that they hold their value better than the general market. Nintendo first party games 100% is true, overall Nintendo dev'd games hold value more than any other dev. but switch games are not all made by Nintendo so yeah... the only thing I can think of is you are not taking into consideration all of the variables that affect game value. for one the switch is only 1 year and 4 months old where as the xbone and ps4 are both 4.5 years old so there is bound to be significantly more value slip for a game that released 4 years ago vs 1 year ago (early system life games).
personally to me the game library appears to be depreciating at the same rate if lined up for system release.
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I nearly always feel conflicted.
Most times I am buying it overpriced and for the second time on the Switch because I want the portability.
But knowing I’m getting it at inferior quality to a another system I typically end up buying it for the XBoxOneX as well.
I also now trust MS more to support my current and past games on future platforms.
I no longer have any faith in SONY/Nintendo supporting my previous investments in their platforms.
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In this (and last generation) games will hold their value if they are able to be used as-is, without requiring an update to run. Cartridge games may be better off in the long run in this way. I have not used a Switch, so I do not know what the percentage of "requires update to play" games they have...
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I could care less about if it holds value or not. I just want it to be fun. If I'm selling a game, it's because I didn't like it, not because it went up in value.
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Because they hold their value for much longer and I feel like less of a chump for buying early xD
I don't buy games for holding value because I don't sell games hardly ever so it's not much of a factor. If I was into hoarding treasure for value i'd flip houses, rebuild vintage cars and collect art. Not knocking the thought process, I just never got why people are so infatuated with value in their collections as if they are only buying them with the intent to sell them down the road. I always here the "this is worth 400 bucks" whenever someone shows me something and the first thought that comes to my mind is that they really don't care about the item outside of it being rare.
I do agree that sometimes it feels magical to buy a big N game though :). They have that childhood vibe, makes you feel so happy popping in the new pokemon. It's just more nostalgic and special to me. But i'd say I enjoy XB1 as a whole more and buy more of it's games. :D.
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In this (and last generation) games will hold their value if they are able to be used as-is, without requiring an update to run. Cartridge games may be better off in the long run in this way. I have not used a Switch, so I do not know what the percentage of "requires update to play" games they have...
Switch has a much worse problem.
Several of the games:
Mega Man Legacy Collection
Bayonetta Collection
Resident Evil Collection
LA Noire
And more don’t even have all of the game content on the cartridge.
So once the servers go dark it’s not that you’ll have a buggy game, it’s that you’ll be missing large portions of the game and be unable to finish or even begin it if you don’t have it installed and downloaded already.
Check the fine print on the case.
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Because they hold their value for much longer and I feel like less of a chump for buying early xD
I don't buy games for holding value because I don't sell games hardly ever so it's not much of a factor. If I was into hoarding treasure for value i'd flip houses, rebuild vintage cars and collect art. Not knocking the thought process, I just never got why people are so infatuated with value in their collections as if they are only buying them with the intent to sell them down the road. I always here the "this is worth 400 bucks" whenever someone shows me something and the first thought that comes to my mind is that they really don't care about the item outside of it being rare.
I do agree that sometimes it feels magical to buy a big N game though :). They have that childhood vibe, makes you feel so happy popping in the new pokemon. It's just more nostalgic and special to me. But i'd say I enjoy XB1 as a whole more and buy more of it's games. :D.
You and burmingdoom missed my point entirely.
I’m not saying retained value is good for future selling. I’m saying because they retain value for longer you don’t have to feel as bad for buying close to release that if you waited a little while it would plummet in price (allowing you to buy it for less) as is the case with Sony/MS releases typically after a couple month even.
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Because they hold their value for much longer and I feel like less of a chump for buying early xD
I don't buy games for holding value because I don't sell games hardly ever so it's not much of a factor. If I was into hoarding treasure for value i'd flip houses, rebuild vintage cars and collect art. Not knocking the thought process, I just never got why people are so infatuated with value in their collections as if they are only buying them with the intent to sell them down the road. I always here the "this is worth 400 bucks" whenever someone shows me something and the first thought that comes to my mind is that they really don't care about the item outside of it being rare.
I do agree that sometimes it feels magical to buy a big N game though :). They have that childhood vibe, makes you feel so happy popping in the new pokemon. It's just more nostalgic and special to me. But i'd say I enjoy XB1 as a whole more and buy more of it's games. :D.
You and burmingdoom missed my point entirely.
I’m not saying retained value is good for future selling. I’m saying because they retain value for longer you don’t have to feel as bad for buying close to release that if you waited a little while it would plummet in price (allowing you to buy it for less) as is the case with Sony/MS releases typically after a couple month even.
My answer is still the same. If I buy a game, it's because I want to play it. Value doesn't come into my thoughts. I don't feel bad for spending money on games.
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Yeah a game dropping in price by ten or twenty bucks a few months down the line isn't important at all too me. If the game is good, then it's usually worth whatever the price I bought it at.
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You and burmingdoom missed my point entirely.
I’m not saying retained value is good for future selling. I’m saying because they retain value for longer you don’t have to feel as bad for buying close to release that if you waited a little while it would plummet in price (allowing you to buy it for less) as is the case with Sony/MS releases typically after a couple month even.
Buying close to release has nothing to do with value- anybody with even the slightest bit of experience shopping for games knows you save by waiting, every time. Buying at/close to release is about relevance. The Shadow of the Colossus remake was a huge deal- 5 months ago. Far Cry 5, God of War, Detroit: Become Human- all big releases with lots of conversation, jokes, memes- also all irrelevant now. When you buy early, you're basically buying into that community, to be part of that discussion, to be the person those who buy later (by choice or necessity) go to when they want to ask which game is really worth their money. This means that, if you're not going to play a game at release, or if you don't typically join in the discourse, it can feel really foolish to buy early- you're not getting anything out of it.
It's easier to pick up a Switch game for full price later becuase, quite simply, very few Nintendo games get that kind of saturation into gaming culture. Breath of the Wild did it, but that's... that's kind of it. Super Mario Odyssey got attention, but not to the same level. And I don't see people whipping themselves into a frenzy over Octopath Traveler's impending release- it's about the same dull roar it's had for its whole pre-release run. That's the trick- Nintendo's relevance is fairly consistent these days. It's timeless. There's no flash-in-the-pan popularity you have to catch early or miss entirely. It makes just as much sense to analyze or joke about Super Mario World for SNES as for Odyssey. You know that, whenever you buy in, there's a community waiting for you, if & when you're ready to join it. It's like being childless & buying a couple Disney movies for if your friends with kids stop by- Hotel Transylvania 3 might be 'in' now, but they won't care in 3 months & you'll have to worry about them trashing your stuff out of boredom. On the other hand- damn near everyone likes The Lion King, including adults- you may even watch it on your own.
In short- Nintendo is like Disney, in that they can get away with things their competition simply can't do.
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I don't feel bad for spending money on games.
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Oh man, I can't tell you how many times I bought a game for 60 bucks and it dropped to 40 like three or four months later. Oh my God I felt like such a chump! I only bought it because I though it would hold value but it didn't! Now I only buy games for the Switch because they sell for more on the used market cuz I'm smart xD
Seriously though, who buys a game for msrp and then sees it discounted and starts "feeling bad" about it? As long as you feel like you got your money's worth, what difference does 10, 20 or even 30 or more dollars make? It's like those people who stand in line on Black Friday to save like four dollars on a product.
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I kinda get what Seether is saying. For me its not that games hold their value as much as it is that I tend to wait to buy games that I know will go on sale in six months to a year and will also have all the DLC included. The Switch absolutely has games that I know wont be any cheaper anytime soon so I'm less hesitant about buying them as soon as they come out (Octopath Traveler and Captain Toad should be in my mailbox tomorrow!)
Like a lot of us on here, I buy a ton of games, and I've seen too many $60 games drop to $20 within a year of their release. Instead of buying 1 game on day one, i can pick up 3 games later on!
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The majority of first party titles from the big N hold their value foreva!
Me love you long time, amirighte?
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My answer is still the same. If I buy a game, it's because I want to play it. Value doesn't come into my thoughts. I don't feel bad for spending money on games.
Same here. I don't see why I would ever feel bad on spending money on things I enjoy and can afford.
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I could care less about if it holds value or not. I just want it to be fun. If I'm selling a game, it's because I didn't like it, not because it went up in value.
Cosign.
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Okay.
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I would say don’t buy new if it’s gonna break you. I don’t think Nintendo releases enough copies in general, so they always have that false demand and prices don’t tend to drop.
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I have the opposite feeling. If I'm given the choice between a PS4 or Switch version, I opt for the PS4 one. I've been doing this for the LRG releases where I haven't picked up any of the Switch versions unless it was only released on that system with no PS4 counterpart (though I did miss out on Slime-San :-\). I never thought about the portability thing until it was mentioned in this thread but then I never take my Switch out of the docking bay to take anywhere (though I almost took it on vacation with me). One other thing was the thing with releases where half the game is on the cart and the other half is a download. There's probably some PS4 games like that as well but it seems more common with Switch releases.
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Because they hold their value for much longer and I feel like less of a chump for buying early xD
I don't buy games for holding value because I don't sell games hardly ever so it's not much of a factor. If I was into hoarding treasure for value i'd flip houses, rebuild vintage cars and collect art. Not knocking the thought process, I just never got why people are so infatuated with value in their collections as if they are only buying them with the intent to sell them down the road. I always here the "this is worth 400 bucks" whenever someone shows me something and the first thought that comes to my mind is that they really don't care about the item outside of it being rare.
I do agree that sometimes it feels magical to buy a big N game though :). They have that childhood vibe, makes you feel so happy popping in the new pokemon. It's just more nostalgic and special to me. But i'd say I enjoy XB1 as a whole more and buy more of it's games. :D.
You and burmingdoom missed my point entirely.
I’m not saying retained value is good for future selling. I’m saying because they retain value for longer you don’t have to feel as bad for buying close to release that if you waited a little while it would plummet in price (allowing you to buy it for less) as is the case with Sony/MS releases typically after a couple month even.
I got carried away on a rant about a different topic that bugs me, not so much your post or what you were doing. Sorry if it came off condescending :).
Speaking on a basis of getting bummed when games drop though i've learned to try to conquer it, I used to beat myself up when games would plummet but I cherish the memories I have with them and although I know Forza Horizon 4 will be 10 bucks 5 years from now i'm still gonna pay 100 when it comes out because it'll still be worth it for the fun I have. I care more if retro games drop because then I knew I just did something dumb and didn't practice good patience. But with new games it's too hectic to keep track of.
Even some Nintendo games drop crazy, Most Wii U games have kamikaze crashed since Switch has remastered all of it's good games. I just think it's the sign of the times.