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Title: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: oldgamerz on January 13, 2019, 05:14:13 pm
When you buy a video game or something like something you already have that is in limited supply, why do some of you claim to keep others away from it. If I wanted to be selfish I would use my money and buy up everything video game and music CD related. lets say I was vary rich and bought up every last copy of a vary fun limited release video game you wanted for your collection and just put it on a shelf or storage facility how would you feel about me?

Many people on here may not respond to this topic, but I made it anyway. I don't mean to call anyone out but part of this comment is because of my religion and belief that taking everything for myself will cost me in the end (nobody lives forever). (my belief is do onto others as you want done to yourself) I am not perfect either and I do own many games and CD in fact I got a ton of stuff.

Please don't curse me out I am only trying to express how I feel.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: hoshichiri on January 13, 2019, 07:06:50 pm
I cannot fathom the idea of buying anything for the sole purpose of keeping other from having it. Why? Why be so utterly vindictive towards people you will never meet? Why tie money up in the sole pursuit of being an ass?

Now, having said that- doing something that benefits you at the expense of someone else? I can understand that to an extent. Buying things to flip, for example- you're denying someone else a chance at a deal, but at least there's a reason... you want to turn a profit. It's not an attempt to actively hurt another collector, it's just you trying to help yourself out. Now, trying to buy all of a limited thing to control the supply & slowly drip them out for ever-increasing profits is a dick move- but it's also very risky. You may have the current supply, but in such a situation I imagine the people who own the rights would likely re-release the item, killing your resale value.

Personally, I enjoy when you can split the difference on things. For example- years ago, I found 2 Sega CD memory carts at a flea market. One was in box for $5, one was loose for $1. I knew someone online I was going to see at a con soon who wanted one, so I sold her the loose cart for $25 (I think). A tidy profit for me, but about half of the Ebay price at the time for her- everybody wins!
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 13, 2019, 07:10:34 pm
I'm sure you can find a couple people that collect just to say they have it and others can't, but in general I think that's gonna be a pretty uncommon mindset, especially since most people don't have the money to throw away on that kind of ridiculous collecting.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: ferraroso on January 13, 2019, 07:13:56 pm
Well, whenever I find some duplicates of games I already have for cheap (like ¥100) I give them to a friend who I know will appreciate it, so I don't think I'd consider myself an egoistic collector, haha. And I do the same when I buy a lot of games in which there are some duplicates as well.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: Cartagia on January 13, 2019, 07:18:34 pm
Personally, I enjoy when you can split the difference on things. For example- years ago, I found 2 Sega CD memory carts at a flea market. One was in box for $5, one was loose for $1. I knew someone online I was going to see at a con soon who wanted one, so I sold her the loose cart for $25 (I think). A tidy profit for me, but about half of the Ebay price at the time for her- everybody wins!
This 100%.  I am all about making a profit if I’ve found a good deal, but I’m not going to price gouge.  I make a few bucks and the buyer gets a good deal.  Win-win.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: droaa on January 13, 2019, 08:33:21 pm
Im not petty as a whole so this doesnt cross my mind and its not like Im out there denying anyone anything. I just want to play.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: pizzasafari on January 13, 2019, 08:55:22 pm
I'm going to buy every game in the world and use them to build a giant monument to my glory, upon which I will sit and force all other gamers to grovel at my feet for the chance to potentially play one of my games. They never will, of course, but they don't need to know that. You guys can watch me play if you want though.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: oldgamerz on January 13, 2019, 09:47:14 pm
Too raise the stakes, let say your game or games were stolen or caught in a fire, flood, divorce (etc), how would you replace them if there was no more for sale of that exact item. What if you lost everything? Or imagine someone else who had all of it and a fire or flood happened to them.

I am not trying to be a dick but a disaster could happen. I am not trying to be a trouble maker so mods please don't get angry with me,

they don't even manufacturer some of those games anymore at least in the United States
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: bikingjahuty on January 13, 2019, 09:59:26 pm
I'm not sure I understand the question since when people collect they are often doing so with the mentality of obtaining a specific game for themselves, whether it's for their collection or to flip. I don't think there is anything inconsiderate about that since anything that is for sale at any store, garage sale, flea market, or whatever is fair game and it's no business of mine or anyone else what the buyer ends up doing with their purchase. So yes, I do only think of adding a game I want to my collection or slipping it so I can buy more games, but that doesn't make me or anyone else a bad person.


With that said, I've never bought a game out of spite or bought a game just to make sure another collector/reseller didn't get it. I buy games simply because I'm interested in them for one reason or another, none of which include making sure a specific person isn't getting it. I've known one collector that tried ruining deals for others or places where cheap games could be found, but that's it. I have seen collectors undercut other collectors which is certainly douchy, but compared to that one collector they are saints. I've never done anything like that and never would. My passion for video games and collecting do not come before my morals and beliefs which are not worth any deal, no matter how good it is.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: oldgamerz on January 13, 2019, 10:02:36 pm
I've never collected out of spite for anyone else or bought something just to deny someone else from getting it. Everything I've bought I bought because I genuinely wanted it for one reason or another, none of which included keeping another collector from getting the game. With that said, I do flip games I already own or have no interest in so I can use that money towards more games, but my intent is not to screw another collector. Everything at stores, whether they are game stores, thrift stores, garage sales, flea markets or whatever is fair game; another collector or reseller has just as much of a chance to be there when I game gets put out as I do and purchase it regardless of their intent with what they bought. I've missed many deals by minutes or seconds and yes, it sucked, but I didn't hate the person who bought whatever it is I wanted too. Likewise I don't begrudge someone for finding something I would really want. Sure, I get jealous, but it's mostly innocent and I mostly feel happy that they found it, especially if they're a collector that really wanted the game(s) they found.

this is a good way to be in my own opinion :)
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: bikingjahuty on January 13, 2019, 10:08:09 pm
I've never collected out of spite for anyone else or bought something just to deny someone else from getting it. Everything I've bought I bought because I genuinely wanted it for one reason or another, none of which included keeping another collector from getting the game. With that said, I do flip games I already own or have no interest in so I can use that money towards more games, but my intent is not to screw another collector. Everything at stores, whether they are game stores, thrift stores, garage sales, flea markets or whatever is fair game; another collector or reseller has just as much of a chance to be there when I game gets put out as I do and purchase it regardless of their intent with what they bought. I've missed many deals by minutes or seconds and yes, it sucked, but I didn't hate the person who bought whatever it is I wanted too. Likewise I don't begrudge someone for finding something I would really want. Sure, I get jealous, but it's mostly innocent and I mostly feel happy that they found it, especially if they're a collector that really wanted the game(s) they found.
 

this is a good way to be in my own opinion :)


change my response a bit, but mostly the same jist.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: emporerdragon on January 13, 2019, 11:24:42 pm
I've never bought something out of spite, but I have kept something out of spite.

I own a truly unique item in the game Team Fortress 2 (retired item, only one in existence, so no more will ever appear), but I've basically shot down every offer on the thing, even though I have no real attachment and have had rather generous offers (last one was ~$150). There's just something about the offers that make me just want to keep it, becoming a dead end to their collecting aspirations.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: ivorysoul on January 14, 2019, 01:23:43 am
There's a difference between hoarding and collecting. If you're just buying stuff up to keep in a storage somewhere to lock away forever it's pretty selfish, but most everyone here and fellow collector's don't do this. I just did a Goodwill run recently and instead of buying up every cheap game I saw whether I had it or not, I left the ones I already had for others to find, including consoles. I only need one of every console unless it's some type of special iteration. There are people who buy up entire shops and hoard it or flip it on eBay and it goes against every collector's merit.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: vivigamer on January 14, 2019, 03:31:19 am
I have been considerate of others before and it back fired. I've sold games for a very generous price on eBay only to find the next week they're selling it for more  - Since then i've just not bothered.

I do often give my spares or cheap games I don't need to chairty stores though.

I can't say I've ever been in the postion to deprive something from someone really.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: Cartagia on January 14, 2019, 09:26:27 am
I have been considerate of others before and it back fired. I've sold games for a very generous price on eBay only to find the next week they're selling it for more  - Since then i've just not bothered.

That's not really a backfire, though, is it?  You got what you asked for, what does it matter to you what they do with it afterwards?  I mean, you didn't make as much as you could have, but you knew that would happen when you listed at good low price.  The reseller may be annoying, but it doesn't really affect you.  Who knows, maybe they never even sold it at their mark-up price.

I will say that something satisfying is buying something out from under someone who isn't a collector and just buying to resell.  As long as you are willing to pay market value you'll always win, too.  I've had one ask me before after winning an in-person auction "Why did you drive the price so high?  You aren't going to get anything for it!" (in a more derisive tone than that of course), and they never seem to comprehend the answer - "Because I'm not selling it, I'm keeping it."
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: hoshichiri on January 14, 2019, 10:16:37 am
I have been considerate of others before and it back fired. I've sold games for a very generous price on eBay only to find the next week they're selling it for more  - Since then i've just not bothered.

Well yeah, don't do that! Ebay is not the place to try and offer deals to collectors, the net's too wide- you're going to end up with resellers.

My deal offerings have always been on forums or in-person. I would never have sold my spare NES for half of market value at random, but for a co-worker trying to help her husband set up a game room? The story about catching him looking in the box & giggling the day before they went out to buy games was worth the lost 'profit'. Plus, there's something great about the confusion/gratitude from messaging someone on a forum & offering them a free game(s).

Donating to secondhand stores can be a little hit-or-miss. I've known people who worked in such places, and it's not uncommon to get resellers who literally sit in the building, open to close, to get to every restock cart first & check for good stuff- to the point that the restockers push the cart out the back door & walk away, knowing it's going to get mobbed. At the same time- no guarantee those resellers know what to look for game wise. I once got a tip that a bunch of boxed & loose Atari games had been donated, they'd let me know the day they went out. But that day- I had food poisoning. I couldn't get to the store until the afternoon the day after. Only a handful of loose carts were left... but amongst those was H.E.R.O. for the 2600. Flipping that paid for the rest of the games I bought that day, I'm really amazed no one picked it up!
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: wartoy on January 14, 2019, 03:38:02 pm
Let see I have two copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga for saturn and this is why.A store had a lot of games that thay wouldn't break up believe me I tried to get them to. It was 600.00 and money was tight about 20 games 4 Tomb Raider, 2 Resident Evil, Dark Savior,Doom,Guardian Heroes,2 Mr.Bones,Myst,the above mentioned Panzer Dragon Saga and about 7 other titles I needed and 1 system. I only wanted Guardian Heroes,Dark Savior,Mr. Bones,RE2 to replace my disc only copy and Doom to replace my disc only copy.and the 7 random games plus I figured a back up system would be a good idea. After I did it I was kicking myself because the 12 games I needed and system weren't even worth 600.00 but shortly after that. All those games rose in value I ended up getting one of the best deals ever. Now with that said I dont buy games online I dont sell games online (im very old school)  I dont hord games but sometimes shit happens and I get stuck with extra copies. If a fellow collector I new wanted it I would be happy to hook them up I have done this in the past. I guess im very lazy but I dont feel like shipping games across the country. I would never intentionally buy somthing just to stop someone else from getting it.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: seether on January 14, 2019, 04:18:42 pm
I'm not saying I don't care about other collectors but there are specific instructions in my will to bury me with my game collection.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: marvelvscapcom2 on January 14, 2019, 07:53:06 pm
People who buy things just so others can't have it are a bit nutty  ;D.  They should evaluate their psychological behaviors and probably suffer from clinical sociopathic tendencies.  I think their is clear deviant intent.  Even beyond something a reseller would have.  Because scalpers do have a motive of making money.  Someeone buying something so others can't have it is even beyond that.  I don't think i've seen someone like that. 


If I became filthy rich i'd probably buy like almost every game.  But only because I truly love them and want to read every box and hold every game and see them all come together in stacks.  Not because I wanted to hold them from someone.  :)


I hate people who do that.  I know a lady who is competitive and buys games to flaunt to people as well.  Which is a bit annoying but still not as bad as it being the sole intent because she does enjoy them too. 






Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: betelgeuse on January 15, 2019, 08:23:34 pm
Most of the dupes I have are from back in the day when I was heavy into collecting. I knew a lot of people who played games and we would trade our finds.
A lot of other dupes I have were bought off the clearance racks or bins. I wouldn’t call that depriving collectors. I would buy stuff I knew I collected and the hope was to trade it for something down the road that I missed.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: pzeke on January 18, 2019, 12:47:32 pm
The only time I would buy a game or any other collectible for that matter that I already own would be either because it was part of a lot or because the price was so good I couldn’t pass it. With some obvious exceptions, the idea of owning more than one of the same thing just doesn’t fit in my brain. I sell whatever I have multiples of. And this is coming from someone who obsessed in buying as many variant covers of a comicbook as possible.
Title: Re: Are You Ever Considerate Of Other Collectors OR Do You Only Think Of Yourself?
Post by: cirno on January 19, 2019, 11:53:58 pm
Ill put it this way...I won''t judge others for their actions too much, but I would never, ever be caught dead being that guy who buys everything on a shelf and prevents anyone from getting it