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Messages - endemonadia

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Neither the rating nor the barcode thing is definitive, in other words you are correct sometimes but not all of the time. There are instances where the same barcode is used in different countries.

As i said above, im literally holding the games from each of these releases so i can see theyre different.  I only post a change when i have it in my hands.  Therefore, i can see when a barcode is incorrectly used for multiple releases.

Ofc sometimes the same barcode is used for multiple releases, and again, if i have both in my hands and theyre the same then i dont post an amendment on the database.

For rating, again it depends. Sometimes a publisher may decide to release the UK version to EU, or not make a separate version for EU and UK and then the EU version is the same and has the BBFC rating. There are also times where a publisher does it the opposite way, where the version sold in UK is the "EU" version and thus has the ELPSA rating on it and no BBFC rating. The instances beyond that is when a publisher or distributor uses BBFC rating labels on EU/ELSPA rated titles.

Im not sure this is correct.  My understanding is that the Official Certification Office themselves will decide whether to certify a game or not, not the publisher.  Thats why videogames that are also movies will automatically get the UK movie certification for UK release (as i state above).  Its not a coincidence that all games based on movies have a separate UK release, surely thats the UK Certification Office instructing them to do so.  So the Publisher has no choice, if they want to sell the game in the UK they must apply for a UK certification.

And it looks like big game releases like Metal Gear and GTA have UK certification, maybe this is because the Certification Office demands to check and certify the game before they allow UK release?

Just my thoughts ;)

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Further to the above point is the issue of barcodes.

Basically a barcode on your database is finding itself on more than one entry.  For example the UK release, the EU release, the Platinum release etc.  And yet they all have their own unique barcodes.  So it appears to me that some barcode amendments have been rejected as you are believeing that one barcode on one release is the only correct barcode across all versions of the game.

The only barcode amendments i submit are from games that i am literally holding in my hand so i know theyre correct.

I mean ive even seen game releases that do not have a barcode in the back art image due to being included in a game bundle and yet a barcode appears in the database.  Either the backbox art is incorrect or the barcode needs to be removed.

I hope this helps :)

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The immediate reason why your submissions were rejected was due to users originally submitting entries with little to no information that properly identify an item from another. At minimum, the ideal newly-submitted entry should be submitted with at least the Barcode field entered (if present.)

I'll message you now to see what other entries need amending, as I don't remember what other entries I rejected.

I cant remember off the top of my head which specific submissions were rejected incorrectly in my opinion but i can try to explain with more detail what i think is wrong.

Basically the UK has its own Age Classifications for Movies & Videogames, so when u see that UK symbol on the box (the game front cover) then you know the game is a UK release.  The ESPL rating is European under the EU.  Obviously most games are released in English across Europe and therefore its easy to mix these up.  The vast majority of games released in the UK have the ESPL rating and the UK authorities are fine with that and dont interfere and dont add their own classification... but some games have been designated their own UK rating.  Which makes them a UK only release because this rating is not accepted in other countries (to my knowledge).

As a collector i try to find both versions of the same game but they dont always exist.

Interestingly it appears that videogames based on movies & TV have the UK rating - The Thing / The Matrix / The Incredibles / Mr Bean / Spongebob. Although there are some exceptions to this - Metal Gear Solid / Grand Theft Auto - who have the UK rating but no movie/TV release.

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I've seen worse examples


English boxed copies turned into german spanish or french box versions including region and pictures.

Im kinda new to the database, been here about a year now.  But ive found this is an issue in the PS2 EU releases. Alot of mis-filed editions under the wrong country within the EU.  Many barcodes and pics are wrong from my experience.

Ive been adding alot of images from my own collection to try to correct these errors but sometimes admin dont accept my proposed changes.

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Modern Video Games / Re: The Game Awards 2020
« on: November 19, 2020, 10:40:35 am »
Here is a full list of every category and nominations.https://www.cgmagonline.com/2020/11/18/video-game-awards-announce-2020-nominees/

Game of the Year
Ghost of Tsushima (Sucker Punch/SIE)

Best Game Direction
Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square Enix)

Best Narrative
Final Fantasy VII Remake (Kazushige Nojima, Motomu Toriyama, Hiroki Iwaki, Sachie Hirano)

Best Art Direction
Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Moon Studios/Xbox Game Studios)

Best Score and Music
Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Gareth Coker)

Best Audio Design
Ghost of Tsushima (Sucker Punch/SIE)

Best Performance
Logan Cunningham as Hades, Hades

Games for Impact
DONT KNOW THESE GAMES! lol

Best Ongoing
No Man’s Sky (Hello Games)

Best Indie
Hades (Supergiant Games)

Best Mobile
Genshin Impact (miHoYo)

Best Community Support
No Man’s Sky (Hello Games)

Innovation in Accessibility
Watch Dogs Legion (Ubisoft Toronto/Ubisoft)

Best VR/AR
Half-Life: Alyx (Valve)

Best Action
Half-Life: Alyx (Valve)

Best Action/Adventure
Ghost of Tsushima (Sucker Punch/SIE)

Best Role Playing
Persona 5 Royal (Atlus, P Studios)

Best Fighting
DONT KNOW THESE GAMES!

Best Family
Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo)

Best Sim/Strategy
Crusader Kings III (Paradox Development Studio/Paradox)

Best Sports/Racing
FIFA 21 (EA Vancouver/EA Sports)

Best Multiplayer
Among Us (InnerSloth)

Best Debut Game
DONT KNOW THESE GAMES!

Content Creator of the Year, Presented by Adobe
TimtheTatman

Best Esports Game
Fortnite (Epic Games)

Best Esports Athlete
Matthieu “ZywOo” Herbaut / CS:GO

Best Esports Team
Team Secret / DOTA2

Best Esports Event
Meh

Best Esports Host
Meh

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: N-GAGE Item Numbers
« on: November 10, 2020, 12:01:20 am »
Thanks for that i think that makes sense.

There was a smaller issue with you not accepting the Bar Codes displayed on the game artwork in favor of the barcode that appears on the wrapper.  Obviously its harder to find N-Gage games with the wrapper still on the box as the vast majority of games out in the wild the wrapper has been removed.  I guess unopened games are the main source for those.

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Video Game Database Discussion / N-GAGE Item Numbers
« on: November 09, 2020, 11:43:03 am »
I have just added alot of fields to the N-Gage Videogame database and all edits were accepted except the 'Item Number'. Im confused as to why.

I literally took the numbers direct from the spine of the game case, where almost all Videogame Catalogue numbers are located.  Below is an example of where the Item/Catalogue numbers are located on N-Gage games.



There is another (different) unique identifying number located on the cart itself, as shown in the image below.  But this number would not be used as a catalogue number by the fact that the cart lives inside of the game case, therefore its impossible to use this number in the industry, as an identifier, due to the fact you cannot see this number when its 'on the shelf'.  Its my understanding that all 'item numbers' are codes used in the games industry for stock identification purposes. 



Can someone at VGCollect please confirm which catalogue/item/identifying number is the one you find acceptable on N-Gage games please.


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