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Site Feedback / Re: DLC
« on: April 30, 2011, 05:10:09 pm »
Yeah, I too feel they should be in a subset under the original game, at MOST...  I can't think of a good way to implement this across the board, because most games don't have DLC.  To me DLC is about as consequential as a manual or poster.  Listing it in notes doesn't seem quite right, but giving it its own status along with a game seems kind off too.  hm...

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Site Feedback / Re: Informationator's big ugly to-do list
« on: April 29, 2011, 04:30:51 pm »
Take a look at my post in the new dupes thread.  I don't know how much of a strain the logic I mentioned there would put on the database when tons of people are searching, but it seems like it'd be a rather simple solution.  Then again, I'd have to see the query to know :P  What seems simple conceptually can sometimes end up being a nightmare to code.

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Site Feedback / Re: Informationator's big ugly to-do list
« on: April 29, 2011, 12:52:59 pm »
Scott and Info: We're idea people!
Matt: KILL ME NOW

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Site Feedback / Re: Informationator's big ugly to-do list
« on: April 29, 2011, 10:55:04 am »
Thanks for the feedback guys.  To be clear, these aren't complaints, just discussion points/areas of improvement : ).

Here are some additional thoughts about some of the categories you all have been discussing:
1) Regarding the merging of game data with collection data, I can see how it could be scary publicizing that information, but in my mind, as long as the community is strong and the functionality of the site is good, people will keep coming here.  If users want to see the data for their games in full, they'll have to manually go into each game and record the categories in a spreadsheet, which isn't practical.  From a personal standpoint, it would be nice to have the game data included, because sometimes I want to do in-depth sorting to see how many game I have from a given developer, or the release dates, or some other trend that I'm just curious about.  Knowing I can't get it from here means I have to maintain my own personal spreadsheets, which creates double work for me if I want to use the site.  I see a detailed export as a feature that would make this place more of a "one-stop-shop" for people who want to really dig into their game data and maintain a robust, detailed log of their games.  Otherwise, I imagine some users would tire from having to do double-work because the website can't satisfy the level of detail accessibility they're looking for in a database.

2) The reason I think quality should have its own section, is because you can't sort by notes, because it's inconsistent.  I'm thinking more from a database standpoint here, but well, real life situation: I have a lot of "excellents", a number of "very goods", a few "fairs" and a couple of "poors" in my collection.  At some point in the future I hope to have a complete collection of SNES games.  At that point I intend to go back and revisit the quality of my games, replacing goods, fairs, and poors with very goods and excellents.  With my personal spreadsheets as they are, I can sort the data easily and produce a list of games to replace.  By using the notes feature of the website, I'd have to manually go into each game to see what I put.  I'd argue that it'd be better to have an option that not everyone will use, or that not everyone will use CORRECTLY over none at all, because user data is distinct from game data and won't negatively impact the quality of the public game information.  That way, we could have a sortable column for game quality as well as the notes section where people will have the option to dig into why the quality is what it is e.g. "Small tear in top-left quadrant of label" or "Significant yellowing on back half of game cartridge."

3) Regarding quantity, I can see what you mean about having two copies in one's collection to note the differences.  So, perhaps there is a solution that can be the best of both worlds.  My thought is that users might not want to see the same game 6 times if they have tons of copies of Super Mario Bros. or something.  Perhaps there could be something in options to collapse duplicates into a single line that gets expanded when you click onto the game.  This could be a hassle to implement, though, and I don't see this as a priority.



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Site Feedback / Informationator's big ugly to-do list
« on: April 29, 2011, 12:35:01 am »
Matt and I talked about some of these last night, but I figured I'd throw them out there both to have them documented in a nice place and so the community can chime in.  ...here goes!

Website:
- Login page could benefit from a "remember me" checkbox
- For exporting, have an option to merge the user's collection data with game data, that way they can have release dates, serial numbers, etc. in their spreadsheet and they won't have to maintain two spreadsheets
- I think it's more intuitive to have the Export within the My Collection area rather than on the menu bar.
- When searching for a game that has multiple versions, such as "Super R-Type", add a button to add to collection with details so that users won't have to drill down into the game.
- Add a "quantity" field to the details section of the game, since some users might have duplicates of a game.
- Add a "quality" field to the details section of a game so users aren't relegated to using the notes section to record if the game is in excellent or poor condition
- Option to add a game to one's collection when submitting a new one
- Have a Trophy Case where users can select games they want to display that they're most proud of owning.  It will display the front box art of the games.
- Searching for "The Lion King" does not bring up the game, "Lion King, The"
- Add more advance search filters (System, Genre, Developer, etc).  Ex: "Wheel of Fortune" brings up many entries, but perhaps I only want to add the SNES versions.  That'd narrow the list down to 2.
- When you go to a game details page, it will say, for example that 26 users have Donkey Kong Country.  It'd be nice to be able to click the number as a link to bring up a page linking me to all of the users that have the game.  That way, if someone is looking for one last rare game, they might be able to track down someone willing to trade or sell it.  Users can have the option to hide their name from the list with a privacy options setting.
- Options for games-per-page on the My Collection area.  Currently it's limited to 50.  I'd probably prefer it set to 100, 200, etc.  I'm sure other users have different preferences.
- PNG submissions fail.  I'm able to submit them on the game form, but of all of the updates I did to games last night, the only two titles not to have their front box images accepted were the ones that were PNG.  It needs a message saying "JPGs only" or something
- The 'cool vizualization' pie chart would benefit from some additional filters/categories.  I currently have only SNES games added to my collection, so all I see is a large circle.  Being able to split by developer or release date could be interesting.
- The PM inbox for the forum is too buried.  A small notification icon just left of My Collection could remedy the problem.
- The Browse page's formatting is a little wonky; there is a massive gap between 3DO and Atari and for other categories.  It looks like a table is being used.  Perhaps there is some way to use dual columns instead, or putting each subsystem in its own cell so there isn't such a massive gap beneath the adjacent system category.
- http://vgcollect.com/android is a bit out of date (only contains info up to 0.5.5 and we're up to 0.5.7)

Android Application:
- On my Droid 2, I have a flip-out keyboard.  The login page of the app need to flip to horizontal mode when I flip my phone.
- Login page needs a "remember me" feature.  I have a rather long username and an even longer password!
- Submit and Go Back buttons are partially cut off when clicking "Add to Collection"
- The Settings and Browse buttons are unresponsive (probably intentional at this point, but I figured I'd include it.)
- Android badge isn't working (I know you know that, but I figured I'd be comprehensive)

I'm no developer, but I'm always happy to test or query!  Let me know ^_^.  I'm sure I'll be producing many more horrific idea lists into the future haha

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General / Re: The VGC List o' Badges
« on: April 27, 2011, 06:14:51 pm »
@pceslayer All I had to do was install the app and log in and it immediately gave me the Android Beta badge.

EDIT: I am awesome at reading and realize you were asking about the normal android badge.  I never got that one.

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News / Re: 15,000 and counting!
« on: April 28, 2011, 01:31:04 am »
I updated/entered 60-something games tonight.  2/5ths of 1% of 15,000

OH YEAH

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Site Feedback / Re: genre and sub-genre
« on: April 29, 2011, 12:26:31 am »
Action could use a Run 'n' Gun subcategory

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Site Feedback / Re: Requested feature: "Add to Wishlist"
« on: April 30, 2011, 03:53:31 pm »
Love it.  I think this would be a great feature!  Good idea, Mike.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: NEW Duplicate Listing Thread
« on: April 29, 2011, 01:15:13 pm »
I'm trying to figure this one out conceptually.  I guess the search procedure would have to have a conditional statement looking for the characters ', The' then, when it is found, logically append 'The ' to the front of the name of the given game(s) for the search.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: NEW Duplicate Listing Thread
« on: April 29, 2011, 11:27:10 am »
Well I added 3-5 games in my relatively small 60-game SNES collection just the other night, so I don't know how complete the SNES section is (I did search! : P)  This could lead back to the searching flaw I mentioned in my thread, there games with a leading The such as "The Lion King" don't come up in searches due to the styling methods.

I can definitely see there being a transition period in the future where a report button is added to correct information rather than the complete form being available to modify.

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