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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: June 07, 2016, 02:05:01 pm »

Some duplicates from the Sega Ages 2500 collection on PS2[JP]:

Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 11: Hokuto no Ken
http://vgcollect.com/item/79775
http://vgcollect.com/item/104384

Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 25: Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box
http://vgcollect.com/item/32828
http://vgcollect.com/item/104385

Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 29: Monster World Complete Collection
http://vgcollect.com/item/32829
http://vgcollect.com/item/104386

Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 32: Phantasy Star Complete Collection
http://vgcollect.com/item/32832
http://vgcollect.com/item/104387



As you can see all the duplicates have been created by the same person one after another including the 'Series' word in the title. What do you prefer for the database ? With or without 'Series' ? BTW I've created a new entry for the Vol. 10 that was missing and there are few others to do yet.

And there's also the original 'Sega Ages' collection on Sega Saturn. In the database, games are not always listed with 'Sega Ages:'. Is it OK if I edit the titles ? (I have one among them to add to my collection).

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: June 05, 2016, 05:29:31 am »

A bunch of duplicates in the Sega Saturn [JP] category :

X-Men: Children of the Atom
http://vgcollect.com/item/30472
http://vgcollect.com/item/104649

Vampire Hunter: Darkstalkers' Revenge
http://vgcollect.com/item/19252
http://vgcollect.com/item/35162

Real Bout Garou Densetsu Best Collection
http://vgcollect.com/item/43945
http://vgcollect.com/item/68007

Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special - Kakuchou RAM Cartridge Tsuki (Okaidoku Set)!!
http://vgcollect.com/item/66314
http://vgcollect.com/item/67869

Super Robot Taisen F Kanketsuhen
http://vgcollect.com/item/33246
http://vgcollect.com/item/91410

Steam Heart's
http://vgcollect.com/item/27178
http://vgcollect.com/item/92113

Sonic Jam
http://vgcollect.com/item/27494
http://vgcollect.com/item/103909

Black/Matrix
http://vgcollect.com/item/33028
http://vgcollect.com/item/57586

Toh Shin Den S (again!)
http://vgcollect.com/item/42171
http://vgcollect.com/item/62693

...the last, I'm sorry for this one cos I'm the one that created the duplicate even though I used the search function. At least I put all the informations in the listing so maybe you can merge both. It's for the special edition of Dead or Alive :
http://vgcollect.com/item/42535
http://vgcollect.com/item/105366

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016

« on: June 05, 2016, 05:09:47 am »

Spine cards are usually quite important for those who collect Japanese CDs (not just games, but music CDs are this way too) so yes the Spine card should be there if we can get it. But it is also understandable that sometimes we cannot find a good picture of a game with the spine card in, or we may have games without them (I know I certainly do).

I would say the appropriate image types would go in this priority:
1. Image of front including spine card. This is how a sealed game would look.
2. Image of front including full jewel case if the plastic jewel case inlay is *not* plain black plastic (or the standard release container)
3. Image of the front insert/manual

The above is true for most game releases including things like PS2, Nintendo 3DS or whatever. We would want a full front shot for PS2 games that did not come in the black case (blue EU releases, red Greatest Hits, etc), Nintendo 3DS had some games that came in a red case, etc. Or Dreamcast games that were released under the All-Stars imprint where the manuals are the same as the normal release.

Now for identification purposes, many people are not aware there are different versions of a game, or a person may think we have the wrong picture if they do not have or know what the spine card is for. It may be worth noting on the Virtua Fighter Kids item Description field that the jewel case has a clear inlay and it says Virtua Fighter Kids in the insert which is viewable on the front edge. Toshinden S has the black inlay, which is common and doesn't need to be noted.

Regarding the back cover image, the pictures you have been uploading are what the back cover were to look like if it was removed from the jewel case and flattened. It shows the edge parts. This is fine for an entry where no picture exists, but if one already exists (and is correct) it should not be replaced with one showing the edges. I said "spine" to mean the portions of the physical back cover that appears on the spines of the jewel case, not the spine-card itself.

PS: for anyone reading these posts and wonder about a spine card. In Japan, a piece of printed paper is put onto the edges of a CD sold at retail containing the product name, sometimes the price and usually the barcode. This is why you find a lot of Japanese CD games not having a barcode on the back, because it would have been on the spine-card. For collector's purposes, the spine may or may not have been glued onto the jewel case at manufacture, so if a new item is removed from shrink-wrap, the spine card may also fall away. It is easy to be damaged or lost, which is why you will find CD releases with a spine card to often be sold or worth more than ones without. Spine-cards were also used on some Japanese LaserDiscs and perhaps other media types as well.

Thanks for the clarification

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016

« on: June 02, 2016, 03:50:37 pm »

Those two are a case, a judgement call. Some times it would be accepted, sometimes not. Here is the reason.

First, the image size you pick gets shrunk by the website. So 200x200 is the maximum size. Admins can compare the 2 images (old and new) in the small size and if there is little or no difference, it can be rejected. Sometimes people will try to put in new image that is just bigger and is exactly the same afterwards. So the original file size doesn't matter in the end.

In the 2 examples posted Toshinden S the image you chose to upload show less of the front than the existing ones. It is fine to have a photo with the spine card showing. This is part of the original package and should be in the image we use.

Virtua Fighter Kids front includes the spine part of the jewel case. You can see that it is clear and it says the game name in there. It is important for this to be visible in the front image. The same is true for US Dreamcast games, where 2 different versions cannot be determined by the manual, but what the jewel case edge has on it. Full front image is better to keep in this case of Virtua Fighter Kids rather than just what the manual/jewel case insert looks like.

Thank you for taking the time again, I appreciate. As you previously told me in this thread about the back cover to upload without spine card, i wrongly assumed that was also the case for front covers. I get it.

But it also depends if the jewel case is "clear" or not then ? I don't want to annoy you and other admins with future unecessary image edits so I prefer to make it clear.

I did test everything at 200x200 with Virtua Fighter Kids & Toh Shin Den S and that's what we get. So you actually prefer to display the covers in that order, right ?

#1 > #2 > #3

...but Toh Shin Den S doesn't have a "clear" jewel case with text or information so the spine of the case isn't interesting, right ?

#1 > #2 > #3

Sorry, I know I can be a nerd sometimes !

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016

« on: June 02, 2016, 12:56:15 pm »

I rejected your edit to add [UK] to the title. For an EU category, a game's English release will not have a [UK] in the title unless there is an English EU version that exists also.

Also, I did reject 1 artwork change, as you have been putting spines in the back artwork image. The others that were permitted were due to no back artwork being on the entry already. In the future, make sure to upload back images without the spine if possible.

I saw your reply yesterday, thank you for explaining to me. I'll remember that.

I have one more question cos I tried to update 2 front covers that got rejected :

Toh Shin Den S http://vgcollect.com/item/42171 the cover has a spine card so I wanted to edit with a 798x798 .jpg scan 266ko (without spine)
Virtua Fighter Kids http://vgcollect.com/item/19253 the cover is the whole jewel case, I thought it would be better with a 1396x1396 .jpg 880ko scan (without spine again)

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: June 01, 2016, 03:55:49 pm »

I edited both with informations and pictures while adding to my collection but there are duplicates also :

Toh Shin Den S (Sega Saturn [JP])
http://vgcollect.com/item/42171
http://vgcollect.com/item/91705

Toh Shin Den URA: Ultimate Revenge Attack (Sega Saturn [JP])
http://vgcollect.com/item/52010
http://vgcollect.com/item/98236

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: May 31, 2016, 02:57:56 pm »

Sega Ages I Love Mickey Mouse/Fushigi no Oshiro Daibouken & I Love Donald Duck/Georgia Ou no Hiho for Sega Saturn [JP] :

http://vgcollect.com/item/62454
http://vgcollect.com/item/71022

...also Street Fighter Zero 2 for Sega Saturn [JP] :

http://vgcollect.com/item/19251
http://vgcollect.com/item/33243

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: May 29, 2016, 03:33:43 pm »

I noticed 2 lists for "4 Wheel Thunder" on Dreamcast (EU)

The first one from 03-29-2014 : http://vgcollect.com/item/57860
The second one from 01-04-2016 : http://vgcollect.com/item/94729 It does have a back cover picture that refers to this edition : T-9706D-61 / 820-0296-61 / English - Spanish - Italian

Message edit :

MTV Sports: Skateboarding Featuring Andy Macdonald for Dreamcast [EU] has 2 different pages :
1st http://vgcollect.com/item/94731 this one has the US cover but still in EU category
2nd http://vgcollect.com/item/96895

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016

« on: May 29, 2016, 10:04:30 am »

Hello, I'm new to the site. I update my collection and try to add as many informations as possible for each game so I edit a lot and I create some new entries too. One edit I've made has been rejected cos "Information Already on File" but it was not.

It is the first Grandia II Dreamcast (EU) that was on the site. It was empty so I added all the informations for the [UK] version including pictures, as I supposed it was the 'main' version for most people here before but the name edit has been rejected : http://vgcollect.com/item/46736

Those are the different versions I created btw : http://vgcollect.com/item/105261 (Grandia II [DE]) & http://vgcollect.com/item/105262 (Grandia II [FR])

Can people/admins tell me if it's fine to leave it that way without the [UK] in the name ? (cos it now has the uk number and barcode I added)

PS : I wasn't sure if I had to post this here or in the 'duplicate' thread