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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2021
« on: May 15, 2021, 05:36:30 pm »
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (Nintendo 64 [NA])

-Original: https://vgcollect.com/item/5174
-Dupe: https://vgcollect.com/item/189128


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: May 04, 2021, 12:47:06 pm »
I recently updated the Box Art for this listing: Sonic The Hedgehog (Alt-Name: Sonic 2006) (Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]), and the edit was rejected.

There are 2 "Sonic the Hedgehog" releases on the North American Xbox Live:


As you can see, the Sonic 2006 listing has the incorrect Box Art (looks like someone uploaded the incorrect art back on 08-26-2019, and it was approved).
I tried to update it to be accurate (and to prevent confusion, since as of now it looks like 2 duplicates of the classic game port at a glance, and the alt-name is the only way to tell this is "Sonic 2006" version of "Sonic The Hedgehog")

Is there a way to get the art updated to the correct version for "Sonic 2006" and it be approved this time?


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2021
« on: April 22, 2021, 06:02:21 pm »




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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: December 11, 2020, 03:43:39 pm »
Quote from: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:25:07 pm
Clean is not descriptive enough and it is also a fan term in relation to this game. It is a term to be read as "doesn't have the thing the other version has" and we do not want to be referring to other versions on an entry, at least in this case. So to indicate that the one has a devil on the cover is better, than to have one be marked as "doesn't have a devil on the cover" type of descriptor.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it might be related to something along those lines, especially based on the Style Guide usually desiring something different ON the cover being included in the descriptor, as opposed to something different NOT ON the cover. So I assume a descriptor like "(censored)" or anything along those lines would fall into the same camp? Especially since we don't have any "proof" that's why the variant exists, and only have evidence of Wal-Mart receipts and Wal-Mart devil/demon censorship guidelines of the time.

It makes sense in that technical way, even if it does feel a bit "off" to add descriptors to the standard release and none to the the more oddball variants. I personally got confused when I saw the updated titles and forgot which was the standard release for a bit until I googled it a bunch, which made me reach out for clarification.

Quote from: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:25:07 pm
Also, using the term "variant" in an item title will be rejected unless that word actually exists on the item.

I saw that in the style guide and also assumed as much simply based on existing descriptors already on site. So I avoided a "generic" descriptor like that.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
« on: December 11, 2020, 02:56:38 pm »
Back in 2018, I added the very rare Speed Devils "Clean" Variant for the North American Sega Dreamcast: https://vgcollect.com/item/151251


Originally, the standard release was simply named Speed Devils (as is expected), and I named my new variant Speed Devils (clean cover) according to the style guide.

However, I see earlier this year that Admin tripredacus updated the names of both games, changing the variant to simply Speed Devils, and changing the standard release to Speed Devils (devil cover).

This seems odd to me, since I'd think we'd want to highlight the much less common variants and releases with descriptors, and leave the standard release with the standard title.

Was this simply an oversight? If I re-edit the "clean variant" to add a descriptor in parentheses, will it be rejected? Since the Admin was the one who made these changes to both titles, I assume they are the expert and would not want to attempt to overwrite their change, but since it feels "off" I wanted to double check first.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:06:51 am »
Quote from: tripredacus on December 31, 2019, 11:19:15 am
I didn't see the edit, so I am not sure of the reason. It is possible that you provide too much exposition, or the db admin thought the description was lifted from another site. One indication of this would be to use the game's title in the description, or if copyright/trademark symbols were present in the text.

A description like this is something we are looking for:
"Was removed from Xbox Live service on December 30, 2014"

Thanks, I did not lift the text or copy/paste a description from anywhere else. It was my own description of when and why it was removed from the online stores. I'll use a more casual tone this time.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2019
« on: December 30, 2019, 10:15:49 pm »
I had tried to update the (currently NA) Description of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game with info on the availability of this Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] title. Considering it was removed from the Games Store on December 30, 2014 due to the licensing expiring, and is no longer available to anyone (especially since the digital download format was the only format it was released in). This seems like a very relevant and fitting detail to add to the Description field, considering it's exactly what the Description is for, as per the Style Guide:

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The Description field should be notes about the games packaging variants/ pack ins/ collector's edition details. Or trivia about the games release, such as if it is a launch title, last title, a very limited release,  etc. This should not be filled with store descriptions describing the gameplay or hyping up the title. Plagiarizing descriptions from other sources will not be tolerated and will be deleted.

However my change was rejected for incorrect formatting, and I was directed to the Style Guide. Considering the Style Guide mentions to include exactly those details, it seems I must be missing something...

Since my Description was rejected, the notification text is truncated, but this is the (truncated) text I provided:

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As December 30, 2014, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game is no long...

I'm not sure why this info would be rejected from the one field it seems it is possible and relevant to include it in...

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Description Rejected for 'Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game'
« on: December 30, 2019, 10:14:33 pm »
Thanks, I could've sworn there was a thread for these questions, but must've totally overlooked it.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Description Rejected for 'Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game'
« on: December 28, 2019, 11:45:48 am »
I had tried to update the (currently NA) Description of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game with info on the availability of this Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] title. Considering it was removed from the Games Store on December 30, 2014 due to the licensing expiring, and is no longer available to anyone (especially since the digital download format was the only format it was released in). This seems like a very relevant and fitting detail to add to the Description field, considering it's exactly what the Description is for, as per the Style Guide:

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The Description field should be notes about the games packaging variants/ pack ins/ collector's edition details. Or trivia about the games release, such as if it is a launch title, last title, a very limited release,  etc. This should not be filled with store descriptions describing the gameplay or hyping up the title. Plagiarizing descriptions from other sources will not be tolerated and will be deleted.

However my change was rejected for incorrect formatting, and I was directed to the Style Guide. Considering the Style Guide mentions to include exactly those details, it seems I must be missing something...

Since my Description was rejected, the notification text is truncated, but this is the (truncated) text I provided:

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As December 30, 2014, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game is no long...

I'm not sure why this info would be rejected from the one field it seems it is possible and relevant to include it in...

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2018
« on: January 24, 2018, 04:31:28 pm »
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X HD Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA]

Original: https://vgcollect.com/item/25894
Duplicate: https://vgcollect.com/item/28573


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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: June 20, 2016, 10:44:05 pm »
I added a listing for Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening for XBox 360 Live to the site a while back.

According to the style guide, both subtitles and names of expansions go after a colon, which is exactly how I originally formatted it (seen above). There's an exact example of this in the style guide: Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II: Chaos Rising.

However, while searching the database, I noticed ALL the other versions had the title formatted differently, as Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. With a hyphen instead of another colon.

Examples:

So I renamed mine to be consistent with all the others, and the change was rejected. Not only that, but my original format was then altered by mastafafik to another format - Dragon Age Origins: Awakening - a format that is both incorrect according to the style guide, and inconsistent with all the other listings I was trying to match. So now it no longer matches the style guide recommended format (as my original title did), and it doesn't match all the other Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening listings either...

So, how should Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening by formatted? It seems that the mods cannot agree to follow the style guide here. And it would appear most of the current listings are all incorrectly titled in the database.

I should note that Dragon Age: Origins is an example given in the style guide as well, so removing the colon before "Origins" in my listing makes even less sense.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: March 10, 2016, 02:16:36 pm »
Okay, works for me. The UMD image I uploaded was accepted. But since the Front Box Art image that is currently on there doesn't really work for what this is, I figured a more accurate image was better than one that is less related.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: March 10, 2016, 12:19:02 pm »
Quick question about the little oddity on the PSP (NA) that is the "Hilton Garden Inn: Ultimate Team Play"
http://vgcollect.com/item/39756

I just had an edit rejected, in which I tried uploading a main Box Art image. The thing is, this game had no box, only a UMD and a PSP system were shipped to Hilton Garden Inns. Currently the Box Art is a logo for the hotel itself, not the "game" (training sim). To better represent the game, I exported a screenshot of the title screen from the game with the game title logo "HGI: Ultimate Team Play." However, this edit was rejected.

Title Screen:


Versus the current image which is a generic hotel chain logo:


In the past I've seen people say to use the title screen from in-game for any games that have no official box or box art representing it in any online marketplace. Yet in this case it was rejected, even though it seems the best case scenario for this UMD. Should I upload it again and hope for the best?

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 29, 2016, 08:04:39 pm »
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and it sounds like the box text that you're adding from overview should be fine.  I've done similar things for eShop items, and they've been ok. Hopefully one of the admins can look into it and let you know!

Yeah all the other edits were approved (anything from image, to genre, release date, etc.), but the Box Text fields are being rejected the majority of the time (they are approved maybe 10% of the time). No idea why though.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Listing Errors 2016
« on: January 27, 2016, 02:06:06 pm »
Not sure where to ask about rejected edits, so here goes:

I've recently been updating a lot of Xbox Live digital games, as many of them are using the incorrect images (using the retail box images with the ESRB ratings, etc.) as opposed to the ones from the Xbox site/console interface:

For instance, using the first image here instead of the correct second image for the digital XBox Live title:
Incorrect
Correct


While making many of these updates, I've gone ahead and added a bunch of other official info as well. In this process I have had a handful of my Box Text edits rejected. Sometimes they are approved, and other times they are rejected with no consistency. Considering I am following the instructions in the style guide, I would assume these would all be approved.

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Digital games lack a traditional box, and so they also lack box text. In this case, we can use the description text from the source as the box text. For example, if I were to add The Simpson's Arcade Game to the database, the box text would be the summary that is listed on Xbox.com.

So for the Box Text field I have been copying the summary from the game overview at http://marketplace.xbox.com/ which is the same as the summaries on the actual user interface on the XBox 360 console as well. However, these were rejected today even though I followed those instructions:

Hitman Absolution: http://vgcollect.com/item/58034
Dead Space: http://vgcollect.com/item/72669
Dishonored: http://vgcollect.com/item/63595
DMC HD Collection: http://vgcollect.com/item/94339
Battlefield Bad Company 2: http://vgcollect.com/item/69264
Alan Wake: http://vgcollect.com/item/49020
Metro Last Light: http://vgcollect.com/item/88012
LEGO LOTR: http://vgcollect.com/item/90070
Mafia II: http://vgcollect.com/item/83036
Mirror's Edge: http://vgcollect.com/item/62201
Burnout Paradise: http://vgcollect.com/item/72755

Any idea why these are being rejected? At first I assumed this sort of info fits under description as opposed to box text, since digital games have no box, but according to the style guide, they do indeed go in box text, exactly as I'm submitting them.

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