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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: February 02, 2024, 05:45:19 am »
Prompt: Members from all over the world participate in VGCollect Secret Santa. Therefore, unless specific items are requested based on shopping preference priority, participants should not expect the exact regional item as a gift. (e.g. NA participant requested NA Resident Evil but received JP Biohazard.)
Choice 1: I agree. Unless a specific item is requested based on shopping preference priority, participants should be willing to receive items from any region. 16.7%
Choice 2: I agree. Unless a specific item is requested based on shopping preference priority, participants should be willing to receive items from any region. However, this should only be expected when the hardware to play the item is region-free, such as the PlayStation 4 and Switch. 33.3%
Choice 3: I disagree. Santas should be willing to provide region-specific gifts based on their giftee's location, unless specified otherwise. (e.g. a NA Santa should be expected to gift their JP giftee games from Japan, not from North America.) 33.3%
Other (custom answer): This is a hard one. Generally the non-NA participants are the ones who this could be an issue for, but every time I've gotten a non-NA participant they have had a good variety of easily attainable games for their gifter. 16.7%
This question doesn't necessarily affect anyone who's wanting to avoid shipping internationally, but it certainly does affect all others. Whether you agree or disagree with the above statement, why is that?
Interesting to see such a varied response to this and think sworddude has covered how I see it as well.
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2024
« on: January 25, 2024, 08:39:41 am »
Erementar Gerad: Huuin Sarashi Kyou / Tozasareshi Uta (both referring to the same game - just alt names)
https://vgcollect.com/item/77256
https://vgcollect.com/item/260475
https://vgcollect.com/item/77256
https://vgcollect.com/item/260475
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate List 2024
« on: January 22, 2024, 01:53:52 am »
Death end re;Quest
https://vgcollect.com/item/160484 - limited edition box moved into miscellaneous category (recent edit)
https://vgcollect.com/item/176362 - to combine with the above - the limited edition box in Europe/UK is the same as the one sold in the US (with the same item number on the box).
https://vgcollect.com/item/160484 - limited edition box moved into miscellaneous category (recent edit)
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2024
« on: January 22, 2024, 01:51:29 am »https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204463.html#msg204463QuoteNo. That entry that is linked should have its art updated to include the back where the label has the console logo. Then the entry can stay in the console accessory section.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,12136.msg204464.html#msg204464QuoteAll Switch steelbooks would go into the Switch Accessory category as they (presumably) all have the place on the inside to put the Switch cart into.
This is conflicting instruction, given the entry I originally linked is to house a Switch cartridge. Nevertheless, I've updated every Switch SteelBook entry which I've observed having removable barcode information. When applicable, I've differentiated if the label is a Nintendo Switch label or a generic one. Someone else with better accessibility can update the image fields. As long as the Description field makes note of the label, that is sufficient enough for now.
I have submitted a back cover with the barcode to the one you originally linked.
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« on: January 20, 2024, 08:33:33 pm »Other than the steelbooks, re back image for Star Ocean PSP console https://vgcollect.com/item/215764. I think I submitted the correct pic originally (unless I selected the wrong one by accident) because both front and back looks almost identical. Regardless, have resubmitted. Noting that the current back image is not the back but the side of the box.
Re-submission approved. To me, even now, the front and back cover images appear the same, so I assumed earlier that you submitted the image to the wrong field by mistake.
Yes, had that feeling being the case. The only difference that I could tell is the opening flap lines at the back of the box
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« on: January 20, 2024, 06:31:36 pm »So it is best to say that if the Steelbook has the console's logo on it, that it should go into the Accessory category and if not then into the Steelbook category. It would be easier to do it that way rather than have to figure out how each and every one was sold.
This would then also include SteelBooks which come shrink-wrapped with platform-specific information but are otherwise non-discernible when opened, such as many Switch items like Pokémon Sword, seen here.
Ok - got it.
Other than the steelbooks, re back image for Star Ocean PSP console https://vgcollect.com/item/215764. I think I submitted the correct pic originally (unless I selected the wrong one by accident) because both front and back looks almost identical. Regardless, have resubmitted. Noting that the current back image is not the back but the side of the box.
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« on: January 19, 2024, 10:44:16 pm »
Need clarification between steelbooks (to be put in the 'steelbooks' category) vs platform-specifc steelbooks (to be put in the platform-specific 'accessory' category).
To be honest, didn't see we have a 'steelbook' category until recently - which may have been there for a long time...however, then at the same time, it's causing some confusion.
Even having the steelbooks with me, I can't really differentiate between the two categories / nor know which category the item/s should go into which by answering the questions from the approver/s, and was obviously thinking something not entirely the same when 'platform-specific' was mentioned (i.e. beyond just whether there's a PS / Switch logo on the case)
Re:Crystar steelbook: https://vgcollect.com/item/260201
Is this specific SteelBook platform specific? Is there any way to tell? Unlike the Switch releases which have the Nintendo Switch logo on them, is there any PlayStation logo, like with the Gran Turismo item I linked before? https://vgcollect.com/item/140114
For the above:
- It was only available with the PS4 game as a preorder bonus in Asian countries. An official item.
- In addition to the publisher name etc on the case, only SteelBook [steelbook.com] etc printed inside the case, no PS4 logo. [I double-checked]
With the above info, it should stay in the 'steelbooks' category even though it was only ever available with the PS4 game?
Did notice that's what has been done with the Shenmue III steelbook https://vgcollect.com/item/170030
With that being said, some of the other PS4 steelbooks that came with the launch/deluxe editions/pre-order bonuses don't have PlayStation logo etc printed on it either (like the traits above). So, if those are to be listed as individual items, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs being considered as platform-specific 'accessory' category?
Don't know about the Switch ones yet, will have to look through some to be able to tell whether all have the logo or not. If there are ones that don't have the logo, once again, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs the platform-specific 'accessory' category?
To be honest, didn't see we have a 'steelbook' category until recently - which may have been there for a long time...however, then at the same time, it's causing some confusion.
Even having the steelbooks with me, I can't really differentiate between the two categories / nor know which category the item/s should go into which by answering the questions from the approver/s, and was obviously thinking something not entirely the same when 'platform-specific' was mentioned (i.e. beyond just whether there's a PS / Switch logo on the case)
Re:Crystar steelbook: https://vgcollect.com/item/260201
Is this specific SteelBook platform specific? Is there any way to tell? Unlike the Switch releases which have the Nintendo Switch logo on them, is there any PlayStation logo, like with the Gran Turismo item I linked before? https://vgcollect.com/item/140114
For the above:
- It was only available with the PS4 game as a preorder bonus in Asian countries. An official item.
- In addition to the publisher name etc on the case, only SteelBook [steelbook.com] etc printed inside the case, no PS4 logo. [I double-checked]
With the above info, it should stay in the 'steelbooks' category even though it was only ever available with the PS4 game?
Did notice that's what has been done with the Shenmue III steelbook https://vgcollect.com/item/170030
With that being said, some of the other PS4 steelbooks that came with the launch/deluxe editions/pre-order bonuses don't have PlayStation logo etc printed on it either (like the traits above). So, if those are to be listed as individual items, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs being considered as platform-specific 'accessory' category?
Don't know about the Switch ones yet, will have to look through some to be able to tell whether all have the logo or not. If there are ones that don't have the logo, once again, does it mean they will end up being in the 'steelbooks' category vs the platform-specific 'accessory' category?
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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: January 19, 2024, 05:18:20 am »Personally speaking, if I had to take shipping costs into consideration, my giftee would've received only a postcard. Haha
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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: January 18, 2024, 11:58:18 pm »Shipping can be pricey, and I like to give people as much stuff as I can from their lists, so I don't want that biting into the budget.
Agree with this. While noting that shipping should be taken into consideration once you have gone over the spending limit for the items, and that can vary depending on where people are shipping to that year.
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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: January 12, 2024, 09:10:05 pm »If people go below 60$ with a noticable margin, yes that's an issue. but I do find it strange that we have a topic for the opposite. Isn't it pretty fun to have a shot at getting stuff over 60$ instead of everyone getting close or a bit over 60$. if people want to give more, more power to em I'd say.
Nobody is expecting to get much more than 60$, and nobody should expect to get more if they give more since the budget is 60$. I don't think most have an issue with this and are aware of the finer details.
Agree what what has been mentioned and a lot of the mentioned issues can be prevented and "self-managed" by the participants (which has been pretty good in the past years I think).
However, there are those hiccup moments every now and then. But...it's hard to be perfect though~~
It's technically how ignition365 has stated it in his post (i.e. why the minimum/maximum etc) - although I also don't think it has really been an issue other than the occasional hiccup moments where people had different expectations/understandings etc.
Yeah, the excessively part can make it easy to misinterpret. Some folks might genuinely feel stick to it, and some might feel it's no pressure to stick to it, but don't send a thousand dollars worth of stuff.
I'm not your mom do what you want, but sending out a thousand dollars worth of stuff, no matter how generous the thought might be, might make the receiver feel guilty for only doing or staying near the limit and it can make the other gifters feel similarly. I don't think this has really been a problem before on the high end, but it's worth noting that might be the interpretation of excessively.
I will say I have seen in previous years folks not sticking to it as a minimum though.
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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: January 11, 2024, 12:53:41 pm »Quote
Spending an additional 33%-66%, no matter what the agreed upon budget has been set as, does not sound reasonable to me, and I think many others would agree. At that amount, it is far past the point to when the budget should have just been raised higher.
That's not what the poll result is showing though or I may be looking at the result differently?
The agreed budget will matter in my view when it comes to what is considered as "reasonable" for that additional % - if it goes by % (regardless of how it looks visually).
i.e.
If the budget is set at $60, even if it is at 33% additional, it's only like $20 extra = $80.
However, if the budget is set at $100, then at 33% additional, it would go up to $33 extra = $133.
And imagine if the budget is set at $200, then at 33% additional, it would go all the way up to $66 extra = $266.
In such cases, would it not influence people to reconsider what is considered as 'reasonable' for that additional %?
I mean, people will most likely accept 33% additional at a $60 budget vs accepting 33% additional at a $100/$200 budget etc.
In general, I see two parts to this question.
- whether we agree that the budget is a minimum (and a guide)
- whether we should allow people to exceed 'excessively' if they choose to i.e. not just exceeding but exceeding 'excessively' - whatever the word 'excessively' means for people
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General / Re: VGCollect Secret Santa Feedback
« on: January 11, 2024, 10:10:21 am »Quote
10% is only 6$ though. you gotto try hard on average to spot that difference I feel even with 20% tbh which is 10ish$. I assume this is not the issue cause ye gotto try hard to spot a difference in this case. it's within the 60$ ball park in that scenario.
Yeah - %s probably not the best reference (visually on its own makes it 'look excessive' but not in reality by $
) to be used for that 'range/excessive'. i.e. If the budget is $60 and someone spends say $80-100 - the majority will probably see that as being a 'reasonable range' (once again views can differ).
However, if someone spends say $560 instead - then that's probably something different.
Regardless, hence why I mentioned originally that people can interpret/read the question and/or choices differently.
Where for example, I agree with the question statement on its own but then at the same am not sure what we are referring to when we say exceeding "excessively" when I was selecting the choices.
My interpretation of exceeding excessively was going way over the value to sort of degree where it just doesn't seem to be sensible - which ends up putting me in the "I agree and I do not agree" basket where at the end of the day I have to select one of the choices which neither really fully fits
. This could also lead to one of the reasons for the discrepancies in this question. Maybe I was just overthinking
.
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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2023
« on: January 10, 2024, 11:58:52 pm »For a physical game includes list, you typically do not need to put the game name on each line, this is true. But consider it for the more common things like the media and manual. These things you are listing are extra contents. Perhaps the name is not needed and maybe if Art Collection was Art Collection book, it would have been fine. But I recall that particular name to be the primary reason for the reject.Ok - got it~