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Given how beat up the front is, it's possible the previous owner just didn't take very good care of the game.
I got my copy of ALttP from Amazon, where I get all my retro games. I've always had good luck with Amazon, except for that one time when I ordered Mortal Kombat 3 for SNES, and somehow got a copy of Q-Bert 3 with an MK3 sticker.
I got my copy of ALttP for $44.99.
I need your help to determine if my copy of Link to the Past is a repro.
At the very end of the day though nobody is forced to go over the budget. you can stick to the 60$ budget as stated. if you go above that more power to you. especially since it's hard to prove + in combination with market prices varying from day to day. and prices for stuff really being dependent on where or when you get your stuff.
Since you can't really prove how much each invidual spend for them to spend an excessive amount, why this topic? Differences will always exist since 2nd hand goods can vary in price big time. For this reason alone it's kinda pointless conversation.If people go below 60$ with a noticable margin, yes that's an issue. but I do find it strange that we have a topic for the opposite. Isn't it pretty fun to have a shot at getting stuff over 60$ instead of everyone getting close or a bit over 60$. if people want to give more, more power to em I'd say.
It's been introduced as something to discuss because adhering to a budget is commonplace and expected when participating in gift exchange events. A maximum exists for the same reason that a minimum does—again, to ensure that gifts given and gifts received are equal, both on an individual level and group level. If there is to be no maximum, then why is there a minimum? With this logic, the event could easily be organized as one without any declared budget, leaving participants to freely send gifts of whatever monetary value—however high or low—of their choosing. With that said, I doubt many, if any, would blindly consider participating in a gift exchange with that lack of budget structure. But, based on feedback provided, that sort of format can certainly be explored. It seems you yourself are promoting it, at the very least. As you've been saying, there is no way for anyone to verify the funds spend for another's gift purchases, so perhaps ignoring a budget altogether—and instead simply asking participants to give what they think is a suitable amount—is more ideal.
QuoteSpending an additional 33%-66%, no matter what the agreed upon budget has been set as, does not sound reasonable to me, and I think many others would agree. At that amount, it is far past the point to when the budget should have just been raised higher.
In general, I see two parts to this question.
- whether we agree that the budget is a minimum (and a guide)
- whether we should allow people to exceed 'excessively' if they choose to i.e. not just exceeding but exceeding 'excessively' - whatever the word 'excessively' means for people
The actual monetary values matter little, and the poll fails to gain useful information because "excessively" isn't defined. If the budget was agreed to $200, its 33% increase to $266 is no different than a $60 budget exceeded to $80 because they share the same percentage increase.
The poll was made only to gain a general idea for where 2023's participants stand on certain issues. If this issue was wanting to gain actual results and opinions regarding the budget, we'd need to decide how much of a percentage increase (if any) should the budget be allowed to be in excess. Again, bear in mind that every gift should aim to be as close as possible to another in equal value. So, this could be a possible poll scenario:QuoteShould participants be allowed to spend in excess, past the agreed upon budget?
- No. Participants should remain within the budget, aiming for the agreed upon total as close as possible.
- Yes. Participants should be allowed to exceed the budget by 5% if they want.
- Yes. Participants should be allowed to exceed the budget by 10% if they want.
- Yes. Participants should be allowed to exceed the budget by 15% if they want.
- Yes. Participants should be allowed to exceed the budget by 20% if they want.
In the example polling question above, I capped the percentages at 20%. Which, even 20% is steep. I'm firm in my opinion (emphasis on my opinion) that a higher percentage means that the budget itself should be increased. Whatever amount the agreed upon budget happens to be, as I explained above, does not matter.
QuoteTraditionally, and with good reason, the budget for any Secret Santa event is encouraged to be adhered to, as it ensures every participant is both receiving and giving items of near equal value which prevents participants from feeling like their gift to give was worth more than the gift they received
The above was my understanding, it's a minimum and a guide. People can exceed that budget if they choose to but not to the extent where we need to use the word "excessively" exceeding = no hard feelings from anyone.
In my view, there is a difference between exceeding the budget 'within a reasonable range' vs exceeding the budget 'excessively'. Hope it makes sense
For instance, some may consider totals more than 10% or higher to be excessive, while some consider it to be 20% or higher. Of course, that is something we as a group could define together.
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