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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Pictures from The Vanamo Online Game Museum

« on: February 09, 2016, 12:08:30 am »

On a side note, it's very cool that they're doing this.

As far as I know, it's only one person actually (who is both a photographer and a collector/gamer as well), which is even more impressive . A bit more info about the project was at his kickstarter campaign from 2013.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: February 07, 2016, 05:19:07 am »

http://vgcollect.com/item/96660
http://vgcollect.com/item/96595 -> dupe, I guess

They are two of the same items, Black and Onyx are synonyms (from consolecolors.com: DS Lite Black - AKA Onyx, AKA Smart Black - first color in EU.) The 2nd one is the one I created, though it wasn't but judging from the numbers it seems my was first? Either way, the 96660 listing have more info including box art, barcode and release date, so I think it's more accurate (though I think Onyx is more "official" term than Black, but that's arguable) than mine so I changed my collection item. Either way, they are up for merge/one of them is up for deletion.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Suggestion: Comment field for approver upon editing an item

« on: February 07, 2016, 04:59:05 am »

Currently it seems that the approver only see the original and suggested changed value when someone is submitting an edit on an item. Wouldn't it be good idea to add an (optional) field where the person suggesting the change can fill a field for the approver to read before accepting/rejecting the change? That could be for example a source for picture, a reason for the name change, or anything else the editor  could want to try to inform approver for. That kinds of fields are already implemented on most other online databases (for example MobyGames), as well as Wikipedia (in case of Wikipedia it's a public field, but I see no big reason for it to be public - it could be but don't have to - once an edit is approved it doesn't even have to be kept actually).

I just hope the idea wasn't suggested before, as I couldn't imagine what keyword to use when searching; if it is, then sorry about it 

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Video Game Database Discussion / Pictures from The Vanamo Online Game Museum

« on: February 07, 2016, 04:37:42 am »

I just recently discovered The Vanamo Online Game Museum on Wikipedia which seems to be a great quality source of console pictures (just consoles, no boxes sadly so far) - here's also a twitter to follow for those interested on the project updates - and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to upload these pictures for the hardware in database, and probably stick them up in forum as a good source for pictures to use. They are under public license (that was the aim of the project, they're totally free!) with no additional copyrights attached whatsoever, so they would be better to use than any of the official artwort (which may be copyrighter) without any issues.

Excluding the consoles not released in the US, all of them are most likely an US models (the photographer lives in the US), but I'm not sure if there are any visible differences between the US and other regional models when it comes to the console itself (I'm not talking about firmware/software, internals, limited editions/colors, stickers with model number (which are not visible in the photos), boxes and power plugs/accessories), so maybe they could be used as a photo for the releases from other regions.

If so, would it be wise to replace the current photos when there is a matching color from the Vanamo Online Game Musem? Or are the official photos preferred instead? And should it be used only for NA releases or worldwide?

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Video Game Database Discussion / Bug: items from Hardware [EU] counts as "Games"

« on: February 05, 2016, 01:41:12 am »

In "Collection Breakdown" of your profile, the Hardware [EU] (and possibly the other regions as well) counts as "Games", when clearly both the category name and the items inside suggest that it should count as "Consoles". It may also be related to the fact that they share the region tags, an oddity I reported earlier.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: January 29, 2016, 06:48:56 pm »

http://vgcollect.com/item/19549
http://vgcollect.com/item/89716 <- dupe

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Video Game Database Discussion / Hardware [Region] sections

« on: January 27, 2016, 06:15:21 am »

What's a bit of awkward is the (Misc.) Hardware section on the "Browse" list. It's the only section of "Hardware" that is split into different regions ([EU], [JP], [NA] and [OTHER]) while for the rest of hardware there is no region-based categories - it's used solely for games, with hardware having a region indicated after the name in it's title.

That leads to some confusion, with some items from the categories having additional suffix and some not. I'd suggest unifying the categories - the simplest one is to add appropriate suffix to each item from Hardware section (there isn't that much of them actually) and merge all "Hardware" categories together. Alternative solultion would be splitting all of the Hardware sections in other platforms, but that's rather lengthy task, plus some consoles are not split by regions (like some Nintendo consoles).

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General / Re: Games that Everyone Loves Except You

« on: January 25, 2016, 05:04:10 pm »

Mario series. (don't lynch me!)

But I liked Mario Golf: Advance Tour.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: January 20, 2016, 08:23:26 pm »

http://vgcollect.com/item/77724
http://vgcollect.com/item/42117 <- dupe

How is the one with the lower entry number (and in more collections) the dupe? 

I made a post about it here. Unfortunately that's because there sadly never were a clear policy on hardware naming, except for the brief section in Style Guide, especially when it comes to regions. SCPH-39000 number is for a Japanese console, but it was written as such to indicate "SCPH-39000 series", while SCPH-39004 is the exact model for Europe region (SCPH-39001 being the NA, SCPH-39002 being AU, SCPH-39003 being UK SCPH-39004 - EU and so on). It's an older entry, before the detailed regional entries was added, that's probably why it have more people in collection too.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Hardware naming

« on: January 17, 2016, 05:40:01 pm »

I do know though that "fat" in a fan name, and that "slim" is an official one. Fat should be avoided in titles, while Slim is good.

Do you still have/know the source of where Sony calls the PS2 Slim? I was having trouble locating it at the first glance in the Internet, and nor the box or the manual I have did not said anything about it at the first glance either (it's from the latest version), though I don't have a box of the earlier Slim PS2s to confirm (but a glance at box images on Google didn't said so either).

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: January 15, 2016, 03:27:53 pm »

http://vgcollect.com/item/77724
http://vgcollect.com/item/42117 <- dupe

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Duplicate Listings 2016

« on: January 13, 2016, 11:33:13 am »

http://vgcollect.com/item/16511 <- dupe; another generic model (no exact model number)

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Hardware naming

« on: January 13, 2016, 11:30:56 am »

What I'm getting at is that shape designations are redundant in a title entry where the model number already exists. There would be no time ever that a single model number could be any of the different shapes the console itself may have.

That's actually a valid point too; since we have the exact numbers, just make sure that the alt title fields are properly filled so the people looking for the "Slim" or "Super Slim" versions will find it.

Speaking of the Alt-Name though, that's another question - how to fill it properly? Alt names include PS2 (common name), PSTwo (codename for slim model), and maybe SCPH-3000x or SCPH-30000 for the regional models - technically incorrect, but some people tend to confuse it (though the very exact model number with a proper region number should be always written on sticker on the console and box, as well as in the version number in PS2 menu).

The number is more relevant for PSP though, as the PSP-1000, PSP-2000 and PSP-3000 are marketted as such in some regions it seems, while the regional numbers are x000 for JP only (x001 for US, x004 for EU etc, just like PS2). PSP-2000 IS (I don't think it's a japanese packaging, found it looking for 2003 box), PSP-2004 CW.

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Hardware naming

« on: January 13, 2016, 10:58:05 am »

I thought the official name for the 2nd slim was "Super Slim"

Dunno if it's official, but for sure it was referred as such: ex. 1, ex. 2.

I'd still prefer using that name instead of "Slim - 2nd version", as it's more concise and to the point (and also sometimes used, even if rarely)

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Video Game Database Discussion / Re: Hardware naming

« on: January 12, 2016, 07:37:45 pm »

Aren't Slim and Fat fan-terms? Wouldn't that be more appropriate either in Alt-Name or Item Description?

I was under impression that at least the "Slim" part was an official marketting term, just like PSP was marketted as "Slim & Lite", but I couldn't find anything at the box I have (It's the latest model box though), nor anything via quick googling or a web archive page (though EU part wasn't indexed properly unfortunately ). Anyone have any more insight on this matter?

Still, using Slim in the title allows to easily recognize those consoles - if we want to opt for the original titles only, why not use a parenthesis? It'll be a 2nd one unfortunately (another one specifying the model), but still gramatically correct: ex. Sony PlayStation (Slim) - Charcoal Black (SCPH-70004) [EU].

Another question is, how do we name the 2nd slim refresh? Is it regular "Slim" or  "Super Slim"? Currently one of them is called "Slim - 2nd version while the other one is just a regular "Slim