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I've noticed that a lot of collectors migrate from one retro console to another once prices or availability get out of hand. Given how much more popular it was in North America, everyone jumped on the SNES first while the Genesis spent years in the background being like "hey, remember me guys?" Outside hardcore Sega fans, few collected for it and because of that it was a very cheap alternative for years. I noticed around the time SNES started to dip in interest and price, Genesis and Dreamcast took off (Saturn also, but those games have been pricy for a long time). I think it's starting to cool a little, but yeah, most of the better games go for 2x, 3x, or sometimes even way more than they did just 6 or 7 years ago.


I think with inflation being so bad on everything, people have already started prioritizing what they need over things they want (ie. video game collecting). While prices are sky high on most stuff still, I have noticed things begin to slip again somewhat. This started happening naturally in 2019 and the beginning of 2020 on most retro games, however we all know what happened later on in 2020. The combo of forcing people to stay in their homes, free money, and the need for escapism drove retro gaming and many other leasure hobbies through the roof in terms of prices to levels they'd have never reached under any other circumstances. I think it'll be a long, long time before retro games return to their pre-COVID levels, with some stubbornly staying way overvalued most likely for decades to come. But I see that natural decline in interest starting to manifest itself again and combined with general inflation, I can see prices on Genesis and most other retro games drop quite a bit in the coming years. Again, we are never returning to the days of $15 Mario Kart 64 carts and $5 Sonic 3, but I can see prices returning to where they were in 2017/2018 in the coming years.


As I've stated before, my interest in spending tons of money on retro games is in a state of decline. I have an exit planned within a year or two, where I completely just say that I'm finished. My wishlists are coming down to the stuff I'll probably never get, and handful of other things I still can. Since the spring hit, I've felt an even stronger apathy towards retro collecting and a strengthened interest in modern day releases. Some say it's pointless to collect new releases with patches being so essential to their functionality, but I still wanna do it. Mostly buying PS5, and Switch games right now.

I'll probably return to some of my final hunt-downs soon enough, with retro. Mostly focusing broadly on 5th gen as I consider that my favorite retro gen, but a little bit of others as well. Still undecided whether I'll ever buy Klonoa. That one kinda stings. Might actually trade some stuff away to get it. But yeah, the retro chapter is coming to a close for me soon enough.

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General / Re: Selling/Trading Games -- 2023
« on: April 29, 2023, 09:00:41 pm »
No. Not planning to downside, probably ever. We'll see when the day comes that I've played most of my games.

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General / Re: Your Largest Purchase Pause?
« on: April 24, 2023, 05:46:14 pm »
Most of 2018 I wasn't buying anything. Was going through some tough stuff that year, my head just wasn't in the right place for indulging any hobbies.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 23, 2023, 08:07:50 pm »
Does anyone here posses the esoteric nerd skill to decrypt video game titles like "void* tRrLM2(); //Void Terrarium". What is that? Did someone just smash their face into the keyboard when they named the game? I notice a lot of these are niche games from Japan. I'd just like to know what the eff that's supposed to mean, as a name?

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 21, 2023, 08:35:27 pm »
I'd be compelled to discover a Reddit alternative, although such a thing probably doesn't exist. The Internet is becoming a more and more tightly compacted place, as far as platforms are concerned. Everyone flocks to the same websites and never considers an alternative. How many times have people threatened to boycott YouTube, and still none of it's potential rivals have ever become a drop in in the bucket to YouTube's market share.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 21, 2023, 01:51:50 pm »
You know what really super sucks about Reddit compared to forums? The mods. It has so much potential because it's so popular and everyone goes there, but it's so hard to post on Reddit. Like half the time when I post something, my topic is deleted before anyone gets the chance to read it. Sometimes it's deleted by a mod, sometimes it's just deleted by a bot that's made to just constantly delete posts. Sometimes it's because I didn't add the right "tag", sometimes I included a banned word, or I missed one of the 25 rules for that sub Reddit.  ::)

It's hard to get past the gate-keepers of Reddit. It's way over-modded, and unpopular opinions are dog-piled into oblivion as well. Sometimes an older topics will get deleted at random. It's such an over-modded mess, that it'll never be the good source for reliable information that I wants to be. People take their privileges and their arbitrary rule books WAY to seriously on Reddit.

I miss the days of poorly managed, troll infested websites like Yahoo Answers. You could find a category, ask a question and have a shot at actually getting a relevant answer if it caught the attention of an actual adult using the site. With Reddit you only get scolded for asking a question. The only thing most sub Reddit communities want to see posted is fap material, relevant to whatever their subject matter is.

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 13, 2023, 01:02:15 pm »
I think folks are getting DK Oldies mixed up with DK Newies. I suspect that place might actually be a scam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmB6blM9EY

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 12, 2023, 08:53:21 am »
Alienstudios - Thank you for putting it more eloquently than I could have myself. If we had a rep system, I'd rep you. Probably how my post should have read from the start. I couldn't put my finger on why this all irritated me as much as it did, but I think you nailed it.





If anyone doesn't believe me that they claimed to open and clean every console as part of the refurbishment it was in a comment on their "DKOldies Refurbishes Their Consoles" video which was an indirect response to the unboxing disasters going on at the time .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mZug4fT8mM
It's still there in a comment left by Ian Campbell , you can scroll down into the comments and check for yourself .
"Ian Campbell

I mean... do you expect me to believe that despite having all the staff, the cleaning station, all the equipment, etc. It's all just fake and was for show to make a video where they stage fixing a console? In reality, they just take trade-ins and shove them out the door?

...or, is there a more logical explanation? Like, someone slacking on the job, quality control missing, unchecked consoles getting mixed up, or missed occasionally. Basically, making mistakes?

Or, are they really just as you guys claim, "lying" and "scamming" their customers? I'm inclined to go with the position that sounds not only more charitable, but more reasonable, and say that mistakes are probably being made. Not everything they send out is getting equal cleaning treatment, for some reason. I doubt it's because "DK Oldies is a scam". I make mistakes on my own job occasionally. Most of the time, customers are cool about it and I just fix the mistake for them. Other times, they're total insufferable assholes about it, making wild accusations and threats over the issue, even though I still fix it for them. I hate those types of people.

Folks could probably levy the same ongoing complaints against GameStop, or any number of other video game retailers big and small. When you're getting a used console, you're not getting perfect wares, no matter how much they charge. It's used, and also old. If you don't like it, some places like DK Oldies offer returns. Go elsewhere and find something supposedly better. How can you bring a lawsuit against someone who was willing to give your money back, and you never even complained about the product until someone else told you it wasn't good enough?

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 10, 2023, 02:55:36 pm »
Victim blaming? I doubt anything more can be added to this discussion.

Help, DK Oldies took my card and swiped it. I visited their website and had no choice. They promised me a console I could eat off of, and now I’m a victim. Victim with a console that’s dirty inside. They said they’d replace it, but that ain’t right, it just ain’t right.  I’m a gamer dammit… :'( :'( :'(

How could you Joey, I hate you’re blonde hair! Some one save me from this man!!

Again, you seem to think it's more than just OK for unsuspecting people to be taken advantage of. It's kinda sick. I was wrong, you have added your true colors to the discussion.

He probably works for them...

Nah, you're just expecting too much. Ever worked in customer service? Then you know what it's like to want to strangle the entitled Karen types. Well imagine a whole mob of them parroting the same thing at you 24/7 because some influencer started to make it trendy to do so.

As far as I can see. They call their consoles "refurbished". I don't really know what that entails, and neither do 99% of their customers. Your definition of refurb could differ from my definition. But I have enough common sense to know it's not gonna be a factory refurb. I just can't get hung up on the fact that they didn't scrub the insides clean, esp when you have all these people cracking open consoles to find a smidge of residue somewhere on the board. That doesn't make anyone a "victim". Especially if you've got a year long guarantee on your purchase. Your favorite local retro shop probably isn't gonna do anything near that.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 09, 2023, 09:20:55 pm »
It gets quite dull around here, though. Not that I care to continue the conversation, but if there's not some kind of controversy going on, if feel like we can go weeks without really ever conversing around here. I doesn't seem that many are interested in talking about game collecting.

Would be nice if there were some new blood around here, all gung ho to talk about getting their collection established. You see that a lot on Reddit. On VGC, we're all just old and jaded.

Right now, I'm in a very 3DS mood. Been going hard on that.

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 09, 2023, 05:06:42 pm »
Victim blaming? I doubt anything more can be added to this discussion.

Help, DK Oldies took my card and swiped it. I visited their website and had no choice. They promised me a console I could eat off of, and now I’m a victim. Victim with a console that’s dirty inside. They said they’d replace it, but that ain’t right, it just ain’t right.  I’m a gamer dammit… :'( :'( :'(

How could you Joey, I hate you’re blonde hair! Some one save me from this man!!

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 09, 2023, 12:36:40 pm »
They're getting exactly what they deserve for selling used stuff and calling it refurbished . The people doing unboxing videos and saying they're sketchy are not one gang of evildoers . It's people from all corners of the retro gaming scene confirming it .
   Bottom line is that , regardless of price , DKOldies is advertising that they refurbish all consoles , claiming they open them and clean and repair them all as needed and they're not . Nearly all of the consoles that people have bought for unboxing videos have been dirty inside , some were filthy , a lot of the consoles were broken in some way . They don't replace thermal paste on consoles that it's a potential problem . I'm not sure why people are defending them at this point , this has actually been going on for like 3 months now .
 
Edit - I'm not saying that anybody deserves a death threat . I'm also taking everything that DKOldies claims with a grain of salt .   

From what I've heard they cherry pick customers. old regulars that buy allot get the proper service like shown in the vids those orders are given to higherups, for everyone else it's a wild card.

Those people might defend them since they get a good service

That's pretty much what I've heard . I know that they offer customers freebies to post unboxings and then they use those in their own videos . They only use and reward the positive ones .

But I've also seem them film themselves owning up to mistakes, and replacing orders and even chipping in extras as an apology. Are you contending that they'd typically just stiff any customer who's not satisfied?

They already stiffed the customer in the initial sale. lol

That's isn't how it works, and is why customer service is a thing. If you didn't like the price, then you shouldn't have bought it. It's so simple.

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 09, 2023, 12:30:35 pm »
Alright, enough of this. If anything this shows why we should keep politics off the boards. Agree to disagree.

Awwww. This is more discussion than this board has seen in the past year alone.

Let's just peel back one layer of this onion. Say you didn't have the guns to go to war with "the government". What exactly does "the government" in theory do to you, since you can't defend yourself? I'd love to know what diabolical plans they have in store for you. At least the ones swirling around in your head.

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General / Re: DK Oldies? A scandal, or just another smear campaign?
« on: April 09, 2023, 12:20:30 pm »
They're getting exactly what they deserve for selling used stuff and calling it refurbished . The people doing unboxing videos and saying they're sketchy are not one gang of evildoers . It's people from all corners of the retro gaming scene confirming it .
   Bottom line is that , regardless of price , DKOldies is advertising that they refurbish all consoles , claiming they open them and clean and repair them all as needed and they're not . Nearly all of the consoles that people have bought for unboxing videos have been dirty inside , some were filthy , a lot of the consoles were broken in some way . They don't replace thermal paste on consoles that it's a potential problem . I'm not sure why people are defending them at this point , this has actually been going on for like 3 months now .
 
Edit - I'm not saying that anybody deserves a death threat . I'm also taking everything that DKOldies claims with a grain of salt .   

From what I've heard they cherry pick customers. old regulars that buy allot get the proper service like shown in the vids those orders are given to higherups, for everyone else it's a wild card.

Those people might defend them since they get a good service

That's pretty much what I've heard . I know that they offer customers freebies to post unboxings and then they use those in their own videos . They only use and reward the positive ones .

But I've also seem them film themselves owning up to mistakes, and replacing orders and even chipping in extras as an apology. Are you contending that they'd typically just stiff any customer who's not satisfied?

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General / Re: VGC's Anonymous/"General" Topic:
« on: April 09, 2023, 12:08:34 pm »
You cant buy guns here legal that easy unless you are a member of a gunclub. And we dont have alot of those. So we also dont have that many pointless shootings in schools, bars, etc.
Yeah, im from the Netherlands, and thats in Europe. I might count 1 here in 50+ years!?

Here in the US of A, we can't have nice things.

You see, the government is comin' for us here. They're comin', and they're just gonna keep comin', and then we're gonna be forced to reenact the revolutionary war, just like we watched on the History channel. In the meantime, people just gonna have to take a shootin' up here and shootin' up there. We gotta be ready, cuz they're comin'.

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