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karyann

Xbox digital games categorization
« on: August 24, 2015, 07:47:52 pm »
The other admins and myself are currently reworking some game categorization, and we would like some additional input from you on the Xbox digital games (through all 3 Xbox generations).

First of all, what we are looking to achieve is to regroup all digital categories under the Xbox Live main category, with a naming convention probably similar to that of the Playstation Network as to keep things tidy and consistent.
(If you want to compare the categories listing, you can do so here: http://vgcollect.com/browse )

Our question for you is the following: what sub-categories would you see/prefer? What would be both accurate and intuitive, as to avoid confusion but still be true?
You can suggest to fuse some categories together as well as to create new ones.

If you need more clarification, don't be afraid to ask. Thanks!
« Last Edit: August 24, 2015, 07:50:40 pm by karyann »

telly

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2015, 01:30:43 pm »
Thanks for bringing this up and allowing our feedback :D So I'm guessing it will be categorized as "Xbox Live", with a sub-category depending on the console?

So like how its Playstation Network (PS3) [NA] or Playstation Network (PS4) [NA], it would be Xbox Live (X360) [NA], etc.?

I guess some categories to consider including within Xbox Live would be Xbox Originals, but I'm not sure if Xbox Live Arcade should have it's own listing or not, I don't think PS3 has it's own separate listing for it's indie/arcade stuff, but maybe XBL arcade should if it has a separate hub to download from, much like PS1/2 classics does?

On the topic of PS1/2 classics, I'm going to make another thread topic to talk about the whole category of PS1classics, because I had a question about them a little while ago.
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karyann

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2015, 08:58:52 pm »
Thanks for bringing this up and allowing our feedback :D So I'm guessing it will be categorized as "Xbox Live", with a sub-category depending on the console?

So like how its Playstation Network (PS3) [NA] or Playstation Network (PS4) [NA], it would be Xbox Live (X360) [NA], etc.?

I guess some categories to consider including within Xbox Live would be Xbox Originals, but I'm not sure if Xbox Live Arcade should have it's own listing or not, I don't think PS3 has it's own separate listing for it's indie/arcade stuff, but maybe XBL arcade should if it has a separate hub to download from, much like PS1/2 classics does?

On the topic of PS1/2 classics, I'm going to make another thread topic to talk about the whole category of PS1classics, because I had a question about them a little while ago.

Yes, this is something that has been bothering me... While it's technically an official division in the Playstation Store, PS1/2 classics as a separate category here makes it confusing and easy to make duplicates if a user doesn't know that it exists, and since it could technically be listed under both PS1 Classics and Playstation Network (w/e) [w/e]... This is why we would like some user inputs, since in the end it's going to be used by everybody.

gamingpenguin

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Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 05:37:33 am »
Woo, I been waiting for this :P all those digital Xbox one games annoy me :P

I agree with telly though pretty much, I think anything that can be downloaded digitally on the 360 should be in a 360 category, it would just make things simpler and less confusing.  Same with the Playstation and the classics category (I don't have much knowledge of Playstation) but it seems to me if its downloadable on a PS3 it can go into the PS3 category and the classics category isn't needed. With the 360 covers you should be able to tell if its an arcade game or an indie game.

I hope that makes sense. :)

Side note, will there be an Xbox One Japan category?

karyann

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2015, 03:39:51 pm »
Sorry for the delay!

Thanks for your input. As for the Japanese XBone category, I'm adding it to the to-do list and will do that at the same time as the XBL and NN changes :)

telly

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2015, 03:49:59 pm »
I don't want to sound pushy, but I was wondering if there was a decision made yet concerning the issue with PS1/2 classics, and whether Xbox would have the same treatment, being subdivided into categories for Originals, Live Arcade, etc. :)
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karyann

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2015, 06:50:33 pm »
I don't want to sound pushy, but I was wondering if there was a decision made yet concerning the issue with PS1/2 classics, and whether Xbox would have the same treatment, being subdivided into categories for Originals, Live Arcade, etc. :)

We're still thinking about how to make it all work out, but the Playstation Network will be reworked too if needed, depending on the final decision for Xbox! Everything is still under way and we'll keep you all updated as soon as things are official :)

telly

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2015, 09:08:09 pm »
I don't want to sound pushy, but I was wondering if there was a decision made yet concerning the issue with PS1/2 classics, and whether Xbox would have the same treatment, being subdivided into categories for Originals, Live Arcade, etc. :)

We're still thinking about how to make it all work out, but the Playstation Network will be reworked too if needed, depending on the final decision for Xbox! Everything is still under way and we'll keep you all updated as soon as things are official :)

Sounds great, thanks for the update and all the great work! I'm excited to see what it will look like. :)
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telly

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2015, 06:09:56 pm »
At some point I'm going to try and find and list all the Xbox games that already have a "digital" version listed on the site, so we can just transfer those over to the new digital categories without having to make new ones. Would that be helpful at all? :)

For example, Shovel Knight
Digital: http://vgcollect.com/item/83025
Physical: http://vgcollect.com/item/86177

Ori and the Blind Forest
http://vgcollect.com/item/83024

#IDARB
http://vgcollect.com/item/76995
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 08:47:41 pm by telly »
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Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 11:08:31 am »
Under Xbox Live

Xbox Live Arcade [Region]
Xbox Live Xbox Originals [Region]
Xbox Live Games on Demand [Region]
Xbox Live Games (Xbox One) [Region]
Xbox Live Indie Games [Region]

Currently on the Games on Demand service on Xbox 360, original Xbox titles are included in the category.

Xbox One doesn't seem to differentiate Full titles from Indie/Arcade/Retail, all games get full 1000 gamerscore now if I'm not mistaken.  All titles are treated equally according to the service on Xbox One.


karyann

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2015, 12:48:32 pm »
At some point I'm going to try and find and list all the Xbox games that already have a "digital" version listed on the site, so we can just transfer those over to the new digital categories without having to make new ones. Would that be helpful at all? :)

Yes, that will definitely help! Thanks :)

telly

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2015, 03:43:33 pm »
Great! No problem :)

It's important to note that according to Xbox.com, all Xbox One games with a physical release have a digital release as well. So I'm just listing the games that are digital and already on VGC right now. There are probably a lot more games to actually add to the database
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/games/digital-game-faq

I went through the listing to find games that were digital: it seems that the digital games have the wider "Xbox One" title, with no ESRB rating on the box art.



I went through the whole NA listing, but I don't want to do anymore [EU] [JP] if this isn't going to be helpful, so feel free to let me know if this is too much or whatever :)

I didn't research every game out there, but I figured if some of these listings are supposed to by physical releases, then they still need a digital listing for the reasons I stated above. Most digital games listed in Xbox One are the Indie titles right now, there are exceptions like Shovel Knight. That being said, you guys can edit this as you like (cross of stuff as it gets added, delete inaccurate entries, etc.)

EDIT: I'm noticing that Xbox 360 already has a splitting of digital categories, so I guess it's only Xbox One that needs the switch. I don't know how the digital categories will be organized in the future however, so if the admins need any help with that that I'm not aware of however, I can help with that too! :)

Xbox One Digital Games List

Ori and the Blind Forest
http://vgcollect.com/item/83024

#IDARB
http://vgcollect.com/item/76995

[Prototype 2]
http://vgcollect.com/item/87400

[Prototype]
http://vgcollect.com/item/87399

AirMech Arena
http://vgcollect.com/item/84931

Another World: 20th Anniversary Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/76036

Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China
http://vgcollect.com/item/82344

Battlefield 4 - Premium Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/87954

Call of Duty: Ghosts - Digital Hardened Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/87943

Castlestorm - Definitive Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/73222

Chariot
http://vgcollect.com/item/72170

Child of Light
http://vgcollect.com/item/60366

Costume Quest 2
http://vgcollect.com/item/87913

Crimson Dragon
http://vgcollect.com/item/56898

Escapists, The
http://vgcollect.com/item/81319

Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious
http://vgcollect.com/item/80921

Geometry Wars 3: Dimensions
http://vgcollect.com/item/73224

Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams Director's cut
http://vgcollect.com/item/78839

Goat Simulator
http://vgcollect.com/item/86134

Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/63353

Halo: Spartan Assault
http://vgcollect.com/item/53700

Happy Wars
http://vgcollect.com/item/82884

Jackbox Party Pack, The
http://vgcollect.com/item/73228

Killer Instinct
http://vgcollect.com/item/53016

Killer Instinct Classic
http://vgcollect.com/item/56497

Killer Instinct: Season 2 Ultra Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/69942

Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
http://vgcollect.com/item/78188

Limbo
http://vgcollect.com/item/76035

Magic 2015
http://vgcollect.com/item/78514

Massive Chalice
http://vgcollect.com/item/84952

Max: The Curse of Brotherhood
http://vgcollect.com/item/61483

Mega Coin Squad
http://vgcollect.com/item/87402

Monopoly Plus
http://vgcollect.com/item/87403

Never Alone (Kisima Ingitchuna)
http://vgcollect.com/item/73225

Neverwinter
http://vgcollect.com/item/81153

Outlast
http://vgcollect.com/item/69943

Peggle 2
http://vgcollect.com/item/51810

Pinball Arcade
http://vgcollect.com/item/73230

Pinball FX 2
http://vgcollect.com/item/73227

Pool Nation FX
http://vgcollect.com/item/81154

Powerstar Golf
http://vgcollect.com/item/60997

R.B.I. Baseball 14
http://vgcollect.com/item/63234

SMITE
http://vgcollect.com/item/88141

So Many Me
http://vgcollect.com/item/86514

Strider
http://vgcollect.com/item/55957

Strike Suit Zero: Director's Cut
http://vgcollect.com/item/66009

Styx: Master of Shadows
http://vgcollect.com/item/69941

Super Time Force
http://vgcollect.com/item/60996

Tembo the Badass Elephant
http://vgcollect.com/item/86968

Valiant Hearts: The Great War
http://vgcollect.com/item/66291

Viktor Kalvachev's Blue Estate: The Game
http://vgcollect.com/item/79818

Volgarr the Viking
http://vgcollect.com/item/72169

Warframe
http://vgcollect.com/item/80033

World of Tanks
http://vgcollect.com/item/87839

Worms Battlegrounds
http://vgcollect.com/item/73226

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood
http://vgcollect.com/item/83494

Zombie Driver Ultimate Edition
http://vgcollect.com/item/73229

« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 12:39:50 pm by karyann »
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karyann

Re: Xbox digital games categorization
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 12:41:59 pm »
It's important to note that according to Xbox.com, all Xbox One games with a physical release have a digital release as well. So I'm just listing the games that are digital and already on VGC right now. There are probably a lot more games to actually add to the database
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/games/digital-game-faq

I went through the listing to find games that were digital: it seems that the digital games have the wider "Xbox One" title, with no ESRB rating on the box art.

Someone submitted a batch, and I changed the rest with your list. Thanks for the list! :) The digital Xbox One NA games should mostly be in the right category now.