SNES vs Genesis

[gf78]

I fully agree with you on that, If you don't like any of those games It's hard to believe one likes retro games.

None of the Genesis games really have any staying power.  They were fun in their time, but have become antiques that haven't aged as well as their SNES counterparts.  I've tried playing the Phantasy Star games again and they are just meh.  It's all down to personal preference, but while I feel that way about Genesis games, I'm still more than happy to play old SNES games.  Chrono Trigger is still top-notch to this day as are the old Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy games.  Mario and Zelda (even though I'm not a huge Zelda fan these days) are timeless.

[kashell]

I fully agree with you on that, If you don't like any of those games It's hard to believe one likes retro games.

Different tastes are funny like that, aren't they?

[gf78]

I fully agree with you on that, If you don't like any of those games It's hard to believe one likes retro games.

Different tastes are funny like that, aren't they?

Earthworm Jim is a game I feel the same way about, regardless of it being on both Genesis and SNES.  At the time of it's release, it's humor was funny.  I laughed at the sound effects, launching a cow, pulling my worm body out of my suit to use as a whip, etc.  It was funny.  When I went back to play it again in the last couple of years, I didn't find the humor in it.  The gameplay mechanics didn't age well.  It felt like an old game that I just didn't have any fond memories of, even though I found it fun to play during it's prime. 

Basically, some games age more gracefully than others, same as movies, wines, etc.  Back in the 80's, I loved watching Van Damme, Stallone and Schwarzenegger flicks.  Those old action movies.  Today, I can't stand Jean Claude and Stallone is take it or leave it for me for the most part.  Schwarzenegger movies though?  They have sort of morphed in my eyes into semi-comedy.  The over-the-top action of the 80's makes me laugh now.  But I enjoy the movies just the same. 

That's Genesis vs SNES.  Genesis games are as cringeworthy as watching Van Damme do the splits to a slow motion groin punch, while SNES games are still fun like Schwarzenegger.

[olly88]

SNES for me by a long way. I got my Mega Drive before my SNES, so I have loads of nostalgia for it, and I absolutely adore Sonic 1 and 2. But, going back to it now, so many times the games that I'm trying for the first time just feel really underwhelming, whereas the SNES still manages to impress me time after time.

[gf78]

On a related note, I was browsing N4G.com last night and came across a "retro review" for Illusion of Gaia for the SNES.  By far, it was one of my favorite SNES games.  It's funny, because while cleaning out ancient paperwork and receipts from my filing cabinet, I came across the original Walmart receipt for it.  Back in 1993, I paid $80 plus tax for this game!     But you know what, it was totally worth it.  Transforming into Freedan and Shadow was awesome, though you didn't get Shadow until very late in the game if I remember correctly.  Hey...23 years ago is a long time, especially when you are as old and senile as this guy!   

To this day, this game stands out among all the 16-bit generation games that I owned & played as one of my favorites alongside another Enix game, ActRaiser.  The developer Quintet was fantastic!

[kashell]

On a related note, I was browsing N4G.com last night and came across a "retro review" for Illusion of Gaia for the SNES.  By far, it was one of my favorite SNES games.  It's funny, because while cleaning out ancient paperwork and receipts from my filing cabinet, I came across the original Walmart receipt for it.  Back in 1993, I paid $80 plus tax for this game!     But you know what, it was totally worth it.  Transforming into Freedan and Shadow was awesome, though you didn't get Shadow until very late in the game if I remember correctly.  Hey...23 years ago is a long time, especially when you are as old and senile as this guy!   

To this day, this game stands out among all the 16-bit generation games that I owned & played as one of my favorites alongside another Enix game, ActRaiser.  The developer Quintet was fantastic!

Illusion of Gaia was fun. I didn't like how Nintendo censored so much of the stuff in our version, but that's because Nintendo is Nintendo. Did you play Terranigma? Never getting a US release of that game was such a travesty. >_<

[gf78]

Illusion of Gaia was fun. I didn't like how Nintendo censored so much of the stuff in our version, but that's because Nintendo is Nintendo. Did you play Terranigma? Never getting a US release of that game was such a travesty. >_<

Playing Illusion of Gaia at the time it was out, I didn't know what was censored so I didn't miss it.  In the years since, I haven't followed much about it but that seems par for the course with Nintendo.  Everything was censored or just altered for no apparent reason.  Look at the horrific box art for games like Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy compared to their beautiful Japanese counterparts. 

I never played Terranigma, but it looks fantastic.  I might have to download it to give it a try.  We missed so much here like the original Star Ocean, Front Mission, the Romancing SaGa games, several Final Fantasy titles (until they were released on PlayStation) and Bahamut Lagoon.  Such a shame.

[thecrypticodor]

It's absolutely apparent that the Genesis can't hold a candle with the ridiculous amount of JRPG's on the SNES. But if I were on a desert Island and could choose only one JRPG between both systems I'd choose Shining Force 2 in a heartbeat before any on the SNES.

I don't know why all the hate the Genesis is getting there's tons of fantastic games available for it.

Rocket Knight Adventures
Shining Force 1&2
Phantasy Star Series
Streets of Rage series
Gunstar Heroes
TMT The Hyperstone Heist
Contra Hard Corps
Mega Bomber Man
Castle and World of Illusion
Castlevania Bloodlines
Thunder Force III and IV (Lightening Force)
Comix Zone
Ghouls “N Ghost
Herzog Zwei
Shiniobi III
Ranger X
Dynamite Headdy

I really could go on

I actually like that most Nintendo devotes don't appreciate the Genny. It's nice to be able to still buy the majority of it's titles for under $30.

[gf78]

It's absolutely apparent that the Genesis can't hold a candle with the ridiculous amount of JRPG's on the SNES. But if I were on a desert Island and could choose only one JRPG between both systems I'd choose Shining Force 2 in a heartbeat before any on the SNES.

I don't know why all the hate the Genesis is getting there's tons of fantastic games available for it.

I actually like that most Nintendo devotes don't appreciate the Genny. It's nice to be able to still buy the majority of it's titles for under $30.

I'm far from a Nintendo devotee, but having owned both systems simultaneously in their prime, then returning and playing them today - the Genesis and it's games just don't hold up to the SNES and it's library. 

[turf]

It's absolutely apparent that the Genesis can't hold a candle with the ridiculous amount of JRPG's on the SNES. But if I were on a desert Island and could choose only one JRPG between both systems I'd choose Shining Force 2 in a heartbeat before any on the SNES.

I don't know why all the hate the Genesis is getting there's tons of fantastic games available for it.

Rocket Knight Adventures
Shining Force 1&2
Phantasy Star Series
Streets of Rage series
Gunstar Heroes
TMT The Hyperstone Heist
Contra Hard Corps
Mega Bomber Man
Castle and World of Illusion
Castlevania Bloodlines
Thunder Force III and IV (Lightening Force)
Comix Zone
Ghouls “N Ghost
Herzog Zwei
Shiniobi III
Ranger X
Dynamite Headdy

I really could go on

I actually like that most Nintendo devotes don't appreciate the Genny. It's nice to be able to still buy the majority of it's titles for under $30.

It's not hate for the Genesis.  There are some really good games (Just not Sonic).    The Genesis is good.  I have several games for it.  It just doesn't have as many great games as the SNES. 

That's a damn fine list you made there.     

[shfan]

As with a similar topic, I don't pretend to know which is 'better', only which I prefer, and I've got to say it's the Megadrive. A massive amount of the SNES' landmark titles never made it over here to Europe, hell we didn't even get SMRPG, let alone FF IV/VI, Chrono Trigger or Earthbound. We got Lagoon though..

Streets of Rage 2, to me, runs rings around any beat 'em ups on the Megadrive, SNES or anything comparable, it's something I play regularly to this day. Soleil (Crusader of Centy) and Wonderboy in Monster World are both easy to beat and short, but offer some of the slickest, most genuinely fun gaming I've experienced.

That's not to say the SNES doesn't have a place in my heart or is in any way something I don't care about, Zelda III and SMW are two of my favourite games, but the MD's catalogue had a lot more interest for me. The graphics and sound of the MD wasn't a negative thing in my opinion, like a lot of its catalogue it reminds me a lot of slightly earlier games, which is no bad thing.

[dashv]

As with a similar topic, I don't pretend to know which is 'better', only which I prefer, and I've got to say it's the Megadrive. A massive amount of the SNES' landmark titles never made it over here to Europe, hell we didn't even get SMRPG, let alone FF IV/VI, Chrono Trigger or Earthbound. We got Lagoon though..

Streets of Rage 2, to me, runs rings around any beat 'em ups on the Megadrive, SNES or anything comparable, it's something I play regularly to this day. Soleil (Crusader of Centy) and Wonderboy in Monster World are both easy to beat and short, but offer some of the slickest, most genuinely fun gaming I've experienced.

That's not to say the SNES doesn't have a place in my heart or is in any way something I don't care about, Zelda III and SMW are two of my favourite games, but the MD's catalogue had a lot more interest for me. The graphics and sound of the MD wasn't a negative thing in my opinion, like a lot of its catalogue it reminds me a lot of slightly earlier games, which is no bad thing.

I have to agree with your Streets of Rage 2 comment.

I love me some Double Dragon. But honestly Streets of Rage 2 is the definitive side scrolling beat em up for me.

I know a lot of people like Final Fight. But that always felt to me like I was controlling a piece of lumber.

Streets of Rage (2 and 3 especially) had great controls and fluid game play.

[sworddude]

As with a similar topic, I don't pretend to know which is 'better', only which I prefer, and I've got to say it's the Megadrive. A massive amount of the SNES' landmark titles never made it over here to Europe, hell we didn't even get SMRPG, let alone FF IV/VI, Chrono Trigger or Earthbound. We got Lagoon though..

Streets of Rage 2, to me, runs rings around any beat 'em ups on the Megadrive, SNES or anything comparable, it's something I play regularly to this day. Soleil (Crusader of Centy) and Wonderboy in Monster World are both easy to beat and short, but offer some of the slickest, most genuinely fun gaming I've experienced.

That's not to say the SNES doesn't have a place in my heart or is in any way something I don't care about, Zelda III and SMW are two of my favourite games, but the MD's catalogue had a lot more interest for me. The graphics and sound of the MD wasn't a negative thing in my opinion, like a lot of its catalogue it reminds me a lot of slightly earlier games, which is no bad thing.

I have to agree with your Streets of Rage 2 comment.

I love me some Double Dragon. But honestly Streets of Rage 2 is the definitive side scrolling beat em up for me.

I know a lot of people like Final Fight. But that always felt to me like I was controlling a piece of lumber.

Streets of Rage (2 and 3 especially) had great controls and fluid game play.

Final fight had some issues but is still a nice series to collect and play for.

Streets of rage 3 has terrible music, I have that game. Does make sence why it is more uncommon because It's a copy of streets of rage 2 with worse music.

Streets of rage vs final fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo5wUyxBM8Q

Streets of rage 2 vs final fight 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNi-2bKOo6M

Streets of rage 3 vs final fight 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkqVt7aS_AA

Castlevania blood lines vs Super castlevania IV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaozEmSDvLA

Contra hard corps vs contra III alien wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0jH4Q92AY

Nintendo's mario might be way better than sega's sonic but I do not come to this system for games like sonic. I come for some real retro games. There are plenty more examples. Sonic games are really mediocre except for the casino night lvl and super sonic wich is awesome. Other than that sonic games are mediocre. With all respect for people who like Sonic games. I just don't like the sonic games that much.

I do not care that games like for example street fighter are by a tiny margin better on the snes since the sounds are slightly better while grapics are on par and music is better on sega. Wonder why? I could play an arcade perfect port of street fighter II on a ps1 upwards consoles that's why. However these games stay exactly the same in the nintedo e shop etc since these are not arcade ports but console excusive games, but games like street fighter are downgraded arcade ports. There is no reason to play street fighter II on a console when having an arcade perfect port on any of the newer console. Like the snes controller more than a ps1 or ps2  ps3 etc controller? Get an arcade stick it's not that hard.

[ComanderSheppard]

Doesn't Genesis do what Nintendont?

[gf78]

Doesn't Genesis do what Nintendont?

Yep.  Flickering sprites, music that sounds like it's in a tin can and ultimately forgettable titles that didn't stand the test of time.