Best way to buffer out PS3 scratches?

[rayne315]

now that is a scratch. yeah I would want that gone too.

I was hoping you guys would say it isn't a big deal, lol. Comfort me. I guess I'll have to look for a video store that resurfaces. That's like finding a dinosaur fossil these days.

If the disc works don't worry about it. im just saying out of personal taste. so long as you don't stress the disc the scratch will not expand.

Even though it works, it still bothers me. I'm going to go on a video store hunt probably tomorrow to see if someone can resurface it.

Update: After doing some research, I found that resurfacing blurays aren't the best idea. I decided to drop extra cash for a mint disc. The shit I do to ease my ridiculous collector OCD.

oh geez... I looked it up too and I can honestly say I never expected the data layer to be close to the bottom. I had just assumed it was like every other disc with it being directly under the label.

[mrfoxhound]

Yeah, well at least this thread could give someone using Google to find their answer some useful information.

Resurfacing Blu-Ray bad
Video stores extinct
Buy smart or be dumb like me and buy twice

[gf78]

The current "standard" Blu-Ray disc is double-layered, meaning that the laser can refocus and read past one layer to a second.  Currently, Blu-Ray discs have up to 4 layers and a max storage of 100GB.  Pioneer has made a 16-layer Blu-Ray disc that can hold a whopping 400GB.  But the more layers you add, the closer they get to the outer surface of the disc.  The first non-retail Blu-Ray discs were housed in a cartridge because there was no durable, protective layer to protect them and the data was very easily destroyed.  So the hard coating is good for resisting scratches, but not a good candidate for resurfacing because the data is pretty close to the surface. 

Sorry for rambling, just wanted to throw it out there.  Knowledge is power after all.   

[sworddude]

Double post - here's a photo for you to decide: http://i.imgur.com/mKFlP3Ih.jpg

You guys are turning a misquito into an elephant omg. 

It's one scratch you can't be serious. Sure It's not perfect and an above average scratch. If there were many than sure maybe but It's only one.

It must be pretty though for some people out here to collect for ps1 :p Basicly means that you cannot play your games at all.

One scratch should not be a problem at all. Even allot of minor scratches should not stop a game from working properly. Also were talking about ps3 not ps1. A ps3 disc can take way more abuse than ps1 discs before being not functional anymore.

Also I would not recommend resurfacing a disc if the game still works. Only if it is truly necesarry you should resurface a disc. Resurfacing a disc will make the disc less functional and harder to read for the console especially older consoles wich will even make loud noises after a resurfaced disc. Aside from that your disc will be tinner so your also destroying it. Only in bad cases will it improve the games otherwise your just destroying your disc for no reason.

I would rather have a functional disc full of scratches than a scratchless resurfaced disc.

[kashell]

Double post - here's a photo for you to decide: http://i.imgur.com/mKFlP3Ih.jpg

You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. 

It's one scratch you can't be serious. Sure It's not perfect and an above average scratch. If there were many than sure maybe but It's only one.

It must be pretty though for some people out here to collect for ps1 :p Basicly means that you cannot play your games at all.

One scratch should not be a problem at all. Even allot of minor scratches should not stop a game from working properly. Also were talking about ps3 not ps1. A ps3 disc can take way more abuse than ps1 discs before being not functional anymore.

Also I would not recommend resurfacing a disc if the game still works. Only if it is truly necesarry you should resurface a disc. Resurfacing a disc will make the disc less functional and harder to read for the console especially older consoles wich will even make loud noises after a resurfaced disc. Aside from that your disc will be tinner so your also destroying it. Only in bad cases will it improve the games otherwise your just destroying your disc for no reason.

I would rather have a functional disc full of scratches than a scratchless resurfaced disc.

There ya go.

[karyann]

PS3 (and other Blu-Ray) discs are VERY tricky once scratched. They do have an extra protective coating, but that's because data on Blu-Ray discs is near the surface, rather than near the label like on CDs and DVDs. Once it's scratched, it has most likely already affected data and can't be recovered. Surfacing Blu-Ray discs is extremely tricky because of this too, since the surfacing will most likely take away the data itself.

So yeah, I think you did the right thing by buying another copy. At least now you have a working game!

[mrfoxhound]

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

[sworddude]

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

You do realise that resurfacing a disc lowers the value of the game right?

A bad condition game will have higher value ofcourse but if you have an excellent or nm condition disc and you resurface it the value will go down.

Allot of collectors do not want a resurfaced disc, I for example can see if a disc has been resurfaced, It's never as perfect as a mint disc you will see the results on the whole disc. It's pretty easy to see the difference is pretty notable.

[karyann]

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

You do realise that resurfacing a disc lowers the value of the game right?

A bad condition game will have higher value ofcourse but if you have an excellent or nm condition disc and you resurface it the value will go down.

Allot of collectors do not want a resurfaced disc, I for example can see if a disc has been resurfaced, It's never as perfect as a mint disc you will see the results on the whole disc. It's pretty easy to see the difference is pretty notable.

Only if the machine is of poor quality. I used to work in a video games store with a $9000 machine, and the result was exactly the same as if the disc was new. The buffering was really light and you couldn't notice that it was thinner except with highly specialized tools or if it had to be buffed heavily, which is rare. 

[mrfoxhound]

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

You do realise that resurfacing a disc lowers the value of the game right?

A bad condition game will have higher value ofcourse but if you have an excellent or nm condition disc and you resurface it the value will go down.

Allot of collectors do not want a resurfaced disc, I for example can see if a disc has been resurfaced, It's never as perfect as a mint disc you will see the results on the whole disc. It's pretty easy to see the difference is pretty notable.

Most people probably wouldn't even be able to tell if a game was resurfaced. Probably never even crosses their mind. At least it doesn't for me. I'm sure people will just check for scuffs and scratches and then add it to the collection if it looks mint. At least the casual collectors.

[sworddude]

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

You do realise that resurfacing a disc lowers the value of the game right?

A bad condition game will have higher value ofcourse but if you have an excellent or nm condition disc and you resurface it the value will go down.

Allot of collectors do not want a resurfaced disc, I for example can see if a disc has been resurfaced, It's never as perfect as a mint disc you will see the results on the whole disc. It's pretty easy to see the difference is pretty notable.

Most people probably wouldn't even be able to tell if a game was resurfaced. Probably never even crosses their mind. At least it doesn't for me. I'm sure people will just check for scuffs and scratches and then add it to the collection if it looks mint. At least the casual collectors.

That's very true but condition is everything for me and I can see when a disc is resurfaced. The difference between a mint disc and a resurfaced disc is definitly there even if done excellent especially for more expensive games it will hurt the value. You will see marks and hardcore collectors do complain when they paid for a mint disc game wich has been resurfaced for the more expensive games.

I can't imagine how ridiculous or desirable it'll be searching for mint PS3/PS4 discs in the future if Blu-Ray's can't be fixed like a regular DVD.

You do realise that resurfacing a disc lowers the value of the game right?

A bad condition game will have higher value ofcourse but if you have an excellent or nm condition disc and you resurface it the value will go down.

Allot of collectors do not want a resurfaced disc, I for example can see if a disc has been resurfaced, It's never as perfect as a mint disc you will see the results on the whole disc. It's pretty easy to see the difference is pretty notable.

Only if the machine is of poor quality. I used to work in a video games store with a $9000 machine, and the result was exactly the same as if the disc was new. The buffering was really light and you couldn't notice that it was thinner except with highly specialized tools or if it had to be buffed heavily, which is rare. 

That's not true even if done excellent with the best machines you will see marks I know. I have seen differences in quality and better machines make it less noticable but It's still there. If you have a disc with allot of deeper scratches than even the best machine cannot make it even look slightly mint. It's not as smooth after resurfacing even if done near perfect a hardcore collector will notice this.

Besides people say that they don't see a difference while it's right in front of them It's pretty noticable. Most people aren't that picky.

Aside from that, for older consoles the discs are harder to read. In allot cases the console will make strange noises since it is working really hard to read the disc. You will destroy the laser of the console allot faster. Furthermore you will probably never have the smooth silence from before the resurface. Even scratched functional discs do not do this to a console with the **** noises.

Resurfacing is definitly not recommended for older consoles before wii era.

[mrfoxhound]

Get used to people listing discs as mint or like-new after resurfacing.

[sworddude]

Get used to people listing discs as mint or like-new after resurfacing.

Ik it happens already, for expensive games most people do note that the game has been resurfaced though. (guess more people notice resurfacing and probably complained about it)

Still though I don't mind since I get my games from lots for usually bargain prices or nothing at all. Most people don't resurface their games when selling in lots for less money than lose. I like having mint items but I accept excellent upwards condition discs with very few minor scratches. going mint is definitly not impossible but way to expensive and time consuming. I've heard stories of people rebuying one expensive game 5 times before getting it mint while losing money in the process. It's a waste. For current gen like ps3 etc mint is pretty easy to find since ps3 games usually do not have any scratches at all even when used allot.

Especially for older games such as ps1 keeping it mint while playing the game is a task on It's own. Excellent NM condition can be maintained when used but mint is not possbible for some older systems. It will get scratched at some point.

I would be pissed though if I paid top dollar for 1 game wich was supposedly mint.

[gf78]

One of the larger resellers in St. Louis called V-Stock resurfaces discs. When they are done, you absolutely cannot tell. It looks brand-new. Like Karryan said, high priced machines not only resurface but buff the disc to a perfect shine. No telltale signs whatsoever.

[rayne315]

lets see. the gaming stores around me that resurface discs based on scratches....

Disc Replay (Mega Replay)
Video games ECT.
Tod's disc shop.
Family video (like blockbuster but they also sell older ware)
Uptown pawn (the only pawnshop in the area that seems to care about their wares)
Gamestop (im actually unsure about this one, I know some gamestops do but not all do it)

I can safely say that everyone on this site has at one point in their life purchased a new Disc based game. sure their are like $10 disc resurfacers you can buy that do more harm that good (scratch doctor), disc resurfacers where you have to physically hold the disc that have the potential to do harm (based on how you hold the disc), but for the most part it is impossible to tell the difference from a good commercial disc resurfaced game and a brand new game.