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| burningdoom:
--- Quote from: sworddude on July 21, 2020, 04:37:54 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on July 21, 2020, 01:57:52 pm ---I understand there's more nostalgia behind PS2 since there were more PS2 users. But still, I find it odd that the original Xbox isn't going up any. With multiplatform titles, Xbox versions are usually the best versions to get. They usually perform the best and have the best graphics, so that's the version you usually want. Plus a number of titles are backwards compatible on both XBox 360 and XBox One. --- End quote --- yes they are the best version but why would someone pick up a Xbox console for just a few games of that genre Forget nostalgia take survival horror and rpg's why would you get an xbox with few and just medium titles of that genre while ps2 has a ton. Like seriously in terms of actual rpg's you have stuff like black stone magic steel wich is pretty average. Compared to ps2 with it's godlike library for those and the cube having some of the best rpg's of that gen aswell. Yea sure Xbox version of outrun 2006 is the best but who is going to bother to get a console for just a few games. if you got a cube and ps2, your absolutely not missing much when you skip Xbox Xbox as always just lacks exclusives even OG xbox days, it was a fine console at the time, pretty impressive with them realistic games, but those games don't age well and are easily replaced by modern day equivalents. and with the genre's that do matter Xbox just dropped the ball compared to ps2 or the cube. There isnt much out there it's not nostalgia. Again them dreamcast otogi titles are nice but both the cube and ps2 have way more hidden gems to make those pretty forgettable, I'm all for the nostalgia argument but Xbox just doesnt have much that is interesting to play atm in comparison. Both the cube and ps2 have quality and quantity it's no wonder why many people ignore the OG xbox so much. ps2 and cube have so much more to offer while the xbox especially with a quick glance was just a console with tons of realistic games at the time that didnt age well. --- End quote --- Back then, sure. I can understand that argument for a full-priced, new console. But it's 2020. You can get an original Xbox for dirt cheap, so why not have the best versions? And like I said, backwards compatibility. Even if you don't have one, you can still play many of these games on your 360 or Xbox One in full 1080 HD now, which gives even more incentive to collect those games. Even then, though. Xbox had it's share of great exclusives. Morrowind alone is on an entirely different level than any other game put out that generation. Then you have Halo 1 & 2, which is probably the hottest selling game of that generation. Fable introduced a lot of people to action-RPGs. Ninja Gaiden was a masterpiece of challenge that games like Dark Souls has drawn inspirations from. Plus a bunch of unsung greats like Arx Fatalis, Dungeons & Dragons Heroes, Jade Empire, Crimson Skies, Stubbs the Zombie, MechAssault 1 &2, and others. |
| jdkw50:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on July 21, 2020, 01:57:52 pm ---I understand there's more nostalgia behind PS2 since there were more PS2 users. But still, I find it odd that the original Xbox isn't going up any. With multiplatform titles, Xbox versions are usually the best versions to get. They usually perform the best and have the best graphics, so that's the version you usually want. Plus a number of titles are backwards compatible on both XBox 360 and XBox One. --- End quote --- As mentioned somewhere in the previous comments, 1st gen xbox games really didn't age well. Gamecube games on the other hand have all aged beautifully unlike its N64 counterparts, basically all hit Nintendo titles on the GCN like Metroid, Mario, Zelda still hold up amazingly today and are exceedingly popular even with younger children still. Just look on twitch and see all the 13 year olds streaming Mario sunshine or Mario 64. Same goes for PS2, I mean some of the PS2 exclusives that came out were just incredible. The ratchet, sly fox, jak series, final fantasy and other hit JRPGs. With the GCN and PS2 so stacked with its amazing library, there was no way xbox with it's extremely limited offering of halo, ninja gaiden, mortal kombat, GTA (which btw is also all released on the PS2) could've competed. That is to say, the xbox was not a failure, fact quite the opposite. But the point is it really doesn't have the same potential in present and future collection value in comparison to the two other 6th gen consoles. That being said, with the exception of maybe very very few select xbox titles, I don't see the value of 1st gen xbox collections shooting up like GCN or PS2...like ever. |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on July 21, 2020, 05:35:21 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on July 21, 2020, 04:37:54 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on July 21, 2020, 01:57:52 pm ---I understand there's more nostalgia behind PS2 since there were more PS2 users. But still, I find it odd that the original Xbox isn't going up any. With multiplatform titles, Xbox versions are usually the best versions to get. They usually perform the best and have the best graphics, so that's the version you usually want. Plus a number of titles are backwards compatible on both XBox 360 and XBox One. --- End quote --- yes they are the best version but why would someone pick up a Xbox console for just a few games of that genre Forget nostalgia take survival horror and rpg's why would you get an xbox with few and just medium titles of that genre while ps2 has a ton. Like seriously in terms of actual rpg's you have stuff like black stone magic steel wich is pretty average. Compared to ps2 with it's godlike library for those and the cube having some of the best rpg's of that gen aswell. Yea sure Xbox version of outrun 2006 is the best but who is going to bother to get a console for just a few games. if you got a cube and ps2, your absolutely not missing much when you skip Xbox Xbox as always just lacks exclusives even OG xbox days, it was a fine console at the time, pretty impressive with them realistic games, but those games don't age well and are easily replaced by modern day equivalents. and with the genre's that do matter Xbox just dropped the ball compared to ps2 or the cube. There isnt much out there it's not nostalgia. Again them dreamcast otogi titles are nice but both the cube and ps2 have way more hidden gems to make those pretty forgettable, I'm all for the nostalgia argument but Xbox just doesnt have much that is interesting to play atm in comparison. Both the cube and ps2 have quality and quantity it's no wonder why many people ignore the OG xbox so much. ps2 and cube have so much more to offer while the xbox especially with a quick glance was just a console with tons of realistic games at the time that didnt age well. --- End quote --- Back then, sure. I can understand that argument for a full-priced, new console. But it's 2020. You can get an original Xbox for dirt cheap, so why not have the best versions? And like I said, backwards compatibility. Even if you don't have one, you can still play many of these games on your 360 or Xbox One if full 1080 HD now, which gives even more incentive to collect those games. Even then, though. Xbox had it's share of great exclusives. Morrowind alone is on an entirely different level than any other game put out that generation. Then you have Halo 1 & 2, which is probably the hottest selling game of that generation. Fable introduced a lot of people to action-RPGs. Ninja Gaiden was a masterpiece of challenge that games like Dark Souls has drawn inspirations from. Plus a bunch of unsung greats like Arx Fatalis, Dungeons & Dragons Heroes, Jade Empire, Crimson Skies, Stubbs the Zombie, MechAssault 1 &2, and others. --- End quote --- First of all yes Xbox is cheap, plus it's titles, The xbox console is however huge and heavy. Does someone want to invest space for an xbox console plus it's games. Again space could be a selling point. Your better off sticking with cube or ps2 instead in wich both consoles have options that xbox doesn't have plus a library that outclasses xbox by allot. Also how many OG xbox fans actually stuck with the console, Majority might have gotten a ps4 instead because of the lack of exclusives. maybe the majority of the XBOX one fanbase are just current gen players, There are many reasons for old fans to not get the new xbox consoles. The only advantage is a bit more power with the meme of having almost no exclusives. Still if where talking Xbox classics. Those titles are nice and all but most are either very common: fable jade empire mech assault ninja gaide etc. These are dollar titles tons of supply if there is increase it won't be much. Also stuff like mech assault do you realise how many mech games ps2 has? Ninja gaiden more like god hand ps2 being the superior option if where talking games that are hard as balls plus a ton of fun. Also While halo is legendary we live in an era where we have way to many shooters with excellent online, plus the games are common and playable on the new xbox consoles. I'd say morrow wind/ elder scroll series is a bit more hyped on PC. Daggerfall etc, let alone that it was especially skyrim that brought the hype wich was also released on ps3. Really nice that one of the earlier releases was on Xbox but for the actual origins your going for PC not Xbox. Let alone that you could argue that most people won't replay morrow wind anymore cause of witcher 3 or skyrim, did it age well I'd argue not as well as some other genre's, these kinda games will be replaced when modern equivalents come out, as will witcher 3 and skyrim at some point. Morrow wind is kinda in that awkward spot inbetween. not being old enough while being outclassed by newer titles. It's not a genre that will age well. with the exception of the really old pc stuff. And again for every hidden gem like arx fatalis, stubbs zombie or otogi. ps2 has 30 - 50 or more vs 1 xbox hidden gem and far far better options that's the issue here O and Xbox got dreamcast games big deal, because the cube got literally the top tier dreamcast games in ikaruga and skies of arcadia. Panzer dragoon orta and otogi are nice and all but pretty rough considering that is one of the big selling points of xbox for games that are worthy to play today. the gamecube also has more hidden gems than xbox and it's mascot games are top tier. Gamecube has heavy hitting titles that you can't find on even ps2 for a ton of genre's Xbox has some decent stuff, but ps2 and gamecube are godlike in comparison, let's face the facts here. You miss almost nothing by just sticking with gamecube and ps2 while skipping on xbox. Xbox will never have a value increase like ps2 or gamecube because it's library is inferior in almost every way. for a ton of genre's Xbox is literally a poor mans console it has almost nothing. Xbox is by far the lesser option out of the 3, The peaks are way lower there is less variety and there is just way less stuff out there. Xbox is and has always been an inferior sony console Came out to late, japan hates the console, lack of exclusives resulting in a lackluster library compared to the competition since Og xbox days and has only gotten worse with every new console gen. The only thing that xbox provides is competition towards sony so that's a good thing at least, especially considering that mainstream realistic racing sim and shooters are the big money makers in the industry. |
| burningdoom:
Oh well, more for me for cheap then. And the best versions of those games, at that. The only exclusives I have left for the console I still want are Breakdown and Stubbs the Zombie (I have Stubbs, digitally, at least). |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on July 21, 2020, 07:37:27 pm ---Oh well, more for me for cheap then. And the best versions of those games, at that. The only exclusives I have left for the console I still want are Breakdown and Stubbs the Zombie (I have Stubbs, digitally, at least). --- End quote --- Not all superior XBOX versions are cheaper though Looking at outrun 2006 and operation genesis. |
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