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The Price of PS2 Games Are Exploding
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wartoy:

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--- Quote from: sworddude on July 21, 2020, 06:20:23 am --- Multiplayer on xbox was pretty much only good for shooters and racing games, name me games that are simular to mario party smash bros or some karting game etc. it pales in terms of multiplayer unless you really like certain genre's in wich you could just go to ps2 instead if where talking consoles with lesser multiplayer options. you probably have a better shot at interesting non shooter racing games on ps2.


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I'm talking specifically about online multiplayer. If you wanted to play online that generation, Xbox was the console to get. The Playstation and Gamecube's online capabilities were horribly limited in comparison.

Also, while the system didn't have much for JRPGs (Which is because Japan hates the Xbox line, so most Japanese developers stayed away unless it was an easy port. Microsoft tried to fix that with the 360 getting exclusive games like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, but the hate persisted), it still had quite a few solid western ones like KOTOR or Morrowind.

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Sure, but most online games sold pretty well at the time, a ton of xbox titles are pretty common and worth dollar amounts, let alone that we live in an era with to many shooters and even better online than ever.

The things that mainly increase in price are rpg's survival horror, some of the best action platformers or mascot games. Xbox doesn't really have any of those or budget qaulity ones.

And while it does have some like call of cthulu, it's price is pretty much the same since people rather pick a ps2 or ps1 instead with a way better library in that department in wich tons of games are far better aswell. instead of getting an xbox for just 1 or 2 games.

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Really 1 or 2 games? Of course your welcome to your opinion but the Xbox was the most powerful system of it's time and alot of games that were released for Ps2,GameCube and Xbox ran the best on Xbox. Don't get me wrong I loved the ps2 and alot of games were exclusive but don't forget the Ps2 was released over a year before Xbox and was a huge success especially riding on the heals of the successful Ps1. The Xbox only sold 24 million units vs the Ps2 witch sold over 157 million units even though the Xbox was more powerful and games ran better on it couldn't overcome the popularity of Sony. So more demand/nostalgia means higher prices for Ps2 and not so much for Xbox that doesn't mean the system only had 1 or 2 good games.If a game was released for both systems usually it was supeior on Xbox.And Im already seeing Xbox games slowly climbing in price too might be time for some Xbox lovin while things are still cheep it is after all a great system too.
sworddude:

--- Quote from: wartoy on July 24, 2020, 07:04:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: sworddude on July 21, 2020, 01:48:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: emporerdragon on July 21, 2020, 12:24:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: sworddude on July 21, 2020, 06:20:23 am --- Multiplayer on xbox was pretty much only good for shooters and racing games, name me games that are simular to mario party smash bros or some karting game etc. it pales in terms of multiplayer unless you really like certain genre's in wich you could just go to ps2 instead if where talking consoles with lesser multiplayer options. you probably have a better shot at interesting non shooter racing games on ps2.


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I'm talking specifically about online multiplayer. If you wanted to play online that generation, Xbox was the console to get. The Playstation and Gamecube's online capabilities were horribly limited in comparison.

Also, while the system didn't have much for JRPGs (Which is because Japan hates the Xbox line, so most Japanese developers stayed away unless it was an easy port. Microsoft tried to fix that with the 360 getting exclusive games like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, but the hate persisted), it still had quite a few solid western ones like KOTOR or Morrowind.

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Sure, but most online games sold pretty well at the time, a ton of xbox titles are pretty common and worth dollar amounts, let alone that we live in an era with to many shooters and even better online than ever.

The things that mainly increase in price are rpg's survival horror, some of the best action platformers or mascot games. Xbox doesn't really have any of those or budget qaulity ones.

And while it does have some like call of cthulu, it's price is pretty much the same since people rather pick a ps2 or ps1 instead with a way better library in that department in wich tons of games are far better aswell. instead of getting an xbox for just 1 or 2 games.

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Really 1 or 2 games? Of course your welcome to your opinion but the Xbox was the most powerful system of it's time and alot of games that were released for Ps2,GameCube and Xbox ran the best on Xbox. Don't get me wrong I loved the ps2 and alot of games were exclusive but don't forget the Ps2 was released over a year before Xbox and was a huge success especially riding on the heals of the successful Ps1. The Xbox only sold 24 million units vs the Ps2 witch sold over 157 million units even though the Xbox was more powerful and games ran better on it couldn't overcome the popularity of Sony. So more demand/nostalgia means higher prices for Ps2 and not so much for Xbox that doesn't mean the system only had 1 or 2 good games.If a game was released for both systems usually it was supeior on Xbox.And Im already seeing Xbox games slowly climbing in price too might be time for some Xbox lovin while things are still cheep it is after all a great system too.

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by 1 or 2 games I mean for allot of genre's in wich xbox is pretty lacking. say your an rpg or a survival horror guy are you really buying a console for just 2 rpg's or survival horror games? Let alone pretty mediocre ones.

I wouldn't call it nostalgia if it's a poor mans console for a ton of genre's just look at shoot em ups, survival horror or rpg's for example, xbox is poor mans console for those,

Also if where talking superior versions? for the most part where talking titles that aren't that great, titles that get replaced by newer ones, they where pretty nice at the time but realistic games are just impressive at the time, not really the kind of games that people usually replay in the current era, almost no reason if you got the new version.

It's really cool that xbox had the best versions of hitman and burnout and tons of other realistic games. Problem is these games didnt age well not many people replay these let alone that realistic games such as these are impressive at the time but newer versions are just so much better and make these inferior.

it got some superior versions of spiderman, great it's not like the ps4 version made those games pretty much not worth a revisit anyway. but hey that's just me. Meanwhile ps2 and cube have tons of games that are worth replaying today, xbox doesnt have much of those it's very hard to deny that.

Nostalgia for ps2 LMAO can you even call it nostalgia if ps2 had  30 - 50 times the amount of games for a ton of genre's  and tons of games that outclass the best stuff on xbox easily.

I know the OG xbox library, own almost 100 of the better titles for the system, but the peaks are way lower and a ton of genre's are so lacking compared to it's competition it's not even funny, and again I can't repeat it enough, Most superior versions of games on Og xbox are not worthwhile to replay today usually pretty trash games wich where just impressive at the time and are replaced by the newer versions on next gen consoles. so i wouldn't call it that much of an advantage applies to only very few titles that are worthwhile.

It's true that the ps2 had a way larger playerbase but the library is so barebones in comparison Blaming nostlagia on ps2 fans is just being ignorant on how mediocre the OG xbox library is in comparison. let alone the heavy hitting stuff wich is pretty non existent if you don't like shooters. wich again in current era shooters galore to many maybe.

OG xbox was the peak of Xbox having some exclusives since it only got less and less with each new generation.

Xbox was a titan at the time, realistic games are money makers after all, problem is those games don't age well, no reason to play those if you got replacements on newer gen consoles,wich results in a library that doesnt have that many great titles to replay today compared to the cube and ps2. the reason why the games are relatively cheap even though way less out there. Why would people actually bother to get an xbox system if it doesn't have much of the genre's that they love. and yes shooters are great xbox got a ton of those, problem is though current era to many quality shooters that outclass it.
emporerdragon:

--- Quote from: wartoy on July 24, 2020, 07:04:56 pm ---And Im already seeing Xbox games slowly climbing in price too might be time for some Xbox lovin while things are still cheep it is after all a great system too.

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And they could go up faster based of how the Series X will handle Backwards compatibility, which is most likely going to take everything the One did and go even further.

One thing Microsoft has done well is ensure the longevity of their system's libraries, making it easy to access the older games even without the original hardware or software. Neither Sony or Nintendo have capitalized on that to the same extent as Microsoft did. If they did, a person could be able to play a game like Xenosaga on their PS4 as easily as a person could play Knights of the Old Republic on their One.
sworddude:

--- Quote from: emporerdragon on July 24, 2020, 07:50:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: wartoy on July 24, 2020, 07:04:56 pm ---And Im already seeing Xbox games slowly climbing in price too might be time for some Xbox lovin while things are still cheep it is after all a great system too.

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And they could go up faster based of how the Series X will handle Backwards compatibility, which is most likely going to take everything the One did and go even further.

One thing Microsoft has done well is ensure the longevity of their system's libraries, making it easy to access the older games even without the original hardware or software. Neither Sony or Nintendo have capitalized on that to the same extent as Microsoft did. If they did, a person could be able to play a game like Xenosaga on their PS4 as easily as a person could play Knights of the Old Republic on their One.

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if where talking a nostalgia title for xbox

Last time I checked star wars battlefront II dropped in value by 50% a few years ago, even platinum releases where worth a sizable chunk before that.

operation genesis same thing btw
emporerdragon:
Sorta proves my point there, as Battlefront II is available as a digital download for the One and was even given away for free as a Game with Gold after becoming playable on the One. Most people who want to play a game will choose a $10 download over a $50 physical copy.
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