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| emporerdragon:
I pirated a lot back in my middle and high school years, but as I got older and got a job combined with Steam and Netflix becoming things that made it easy to legitimately get games/shows, I just sorta petered out. Still have near complete ROM libraries of the NES, SNES, GB, & GBA floating around on one of my computers, but it's been years since I booted one up. As for other people pirating, I really don't care unless they start making convoluted moral high grounds to justify why their piracy is honorable and legitimate rather than just simply acknowledging that they are a pirate. --- Quote from: oldgamerz on November 27, 2021, 05:45:08 pm ---I am afraid I'll need to skip those Pokemon games for gameboy entirely what do you think, those batteries don't last forever. --- End quote --- It's just a basic watch battery in there, which is a simple replacement. And the battery problem is more for Gold/Silver/Crystal because of the clock. Most of the Gen 1 stuff are still fine (I know mine are). --- Quote from: sworddude on November 27, 2021, 08:34:28 pm ---GBA and ds games are just non existent outside of the og consoles, No digital options by any official means have ever happened for those and the gameboy releases where released once on 3ds which isn't a supported console anymore. --- End quote --- The Wii U did have a bunch of GBA and DS games on its virtual console. But of course that doesn't help much nowadays with the shutdown of the marketplace. |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: emporerdragon on November 28, 2021, 12:43:27 am --- --- Quote from: sworddude on November 27, 2021, 08:34:28 pm ---GBA and ds games are just non existent outside of the og consoles, No digital options by any official means have ever happened for those and the gameboy releases where released once on 3ds which isn't a supported console anymore. --- End quote --- The Wii U did have a bunch of GBA and DS games on its virtual console. But of course that doesn't help much nowadays with the shutdown of the marketplace. --- End quote --- those where not pokemon though. Still weren't most of those GBA games club nintendo rewards exclusive aka not buyable, like for example zelda four swords plus extra content compared to the og |
| emporerdragon:
--- Quote from: sworddude on November 28, 2021, 06:39:53 am ---those where not pokemon though. Still weren't most of those GBA games club nintendo rewards exclusive aka not buyable, like for example zelda four swords plus extra content compared to the og --- End quote --- No, you're thinking of the 3DS ambassador program, where Nintendo gave 20 free games (10 NES, 10 GBA with the GBA games being exclusive) to the people who bought the 3DS during the first few months where it was $250. The Wii U had about 100 games available between the GBA and DS on its Virtual console, and while the main Pokemon games were not part of it, it did include the Pinball, Mystery Dungeon, and Ranger spinoffs. |
| bikingjahuty:
I have zero issues with either. As someone who does a lot of console modding I feel like mods help enhance and preserve consoles beyond what they were originally designed to do. For example, one of my favorite mods to both install and use are ODE mods which replace a console's disc drive in place of an SD card where you can load games. Not only does this replace disc drives which are failing more and more over time, but also helps games load faster than a laser seeking data off a disc. It also bypasses the disc rot boogey man that many collectors fear and dread. And the best part is that none of it is emulation; you are playing the game on original hardware, you're just tricky the console into playing the game off a SD card rather than a disc drive. There are so many other great mods out there like HDMI mods, RGB amps, high def screen mods for handhelds, region free mods, and countless others that really enhance and expand people's ability to enjoy their consoles in the modern age. If it allows these consoles to be more accessible and enjoyable I'm all for it! I'm also heavily into the preservation end of things and love taking a non-working or barely working console, deep cleaning the board, recapping it, and retrobriting the shell and watching it look and work just as good as the day it was bought brand new from the store. I've brought back dozens of consoles from death and all have found new homes where people are enjoying and loving them now. I know this falls more into the repair/restoration realm than modding, but sometimes mods are a part of these restorations to make these consoles even more enjoyable for people to play. As for pirating older games I also have no issue with this. Most video games, both back in the day and now made 90% of all the money they were ever going to make within the first year they were released. This applies to official rereleases to these games as well. On top of that, there are thousands of games that will never ever see another release for the rest of time meaning that no money will ever be made from them again no matter what. So what's the harm in pirating them? It's not hurting the original developers or publishers that had their pay day sometimes decades ago when the game first came out, and also it's not harming the current rights owner who is just sitting on the IP either as part of their investment portfolio or to sell it someday for more than what they paid. It's a victimless crime as this point when it comes to older games and I don't bat an eye when someone says they downloaded the entire Dreamcast or NES library from a torrent site. |
| marvelvscapcom2:
--- Quote from: bikingjahuty on November 29, 2021, 10:31:41 pm ---I have zero issues with either. As someone who does a lot of console modding I feel like mods help enhance and preserve consoles beyond what they were originally designed to do. For example, one of my favorite mods to both install and use are ODE mods which replace a console's disc drive in place of an SD card where you can load games. Not only does this replace disc drives which are failing more and more over time, but also helps games load faster than a laser seeking data off a disc. It also bypasses the disc rot boogey man that many collectors fear and dread. And the best part is that none of it is emulation; you are playing the game on original hardware, you're just tricky the console into playing the game off a SD card rather than a disc drive. There are so many other great mods out there like HDMI mods, RGB amps, high def screen mods for handhelds, region free mods, and countless others that really enhance and expand people's ability to enjoy their consoles in the modern age. If it allows these consoles to be more accessible and enjoyable I'm all for it! I'm also heavily into the preservation end of things and love taking a non-working or barely working console, deep cleaning the board, recapping it, and retrobriting the shell and watching it look and work just as good as the day it was bought brand new from the store. I've brought back dozens of consoles from death and all have found new homes where people are enjoying and loving them now. I know this falls more into the repair/restoration realm than modding, but sometimes mods are a part of these restorations to make these consoles even more enjoyable for people to play. As for pirating older games I also have no issue with this. Most video games, both back in the day and now made 90% of all the money they were ever going to make within the first year they were released. This applies to official rereleases to these games as well. On top of that, there are thousands of games that will never ever see another release for the rest of time meaning that no money will ever be made from them again no matter what. So what's the harm in pirating them? It's not hurting the original developers or publishers that had their pay day sometimes decades ago when the game first came out, and also it's not harming the current rights owner who is just sitting on the IP either as part of their investment portfolio or to sell it someday for more than what they paid. It's a victimless crime as this point when it comes to older games and I don't bat an eye when someone says they downloaded the entire Dreamcast or NES library from a torrent site. --- End quote --- I might sound ignorant but why would someone do this over just playing the old games on PC with the same SD trick or even emulation? I thought the point of phyiscal on original hardware was to keep it as original as possible? I don't mod or have never heard of these tricks so I am just curious. Is it solely having the hardware present and functional that matters over the actual feel of playing off disc? Thanks for any clearing up :) |
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