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IGN just acquired a ton of their competitors
kashell:
I don't have a horse in this race. I just wanted to point out that you can't spell ignorant without IGN.
That motto has always made me chuckle.
nathan776:
I don't feel as if I have ever really engaged with any of these websites significantly for many years at this point. It will be interesting to see what changes are made to the websites or if they will just keep to the status quo. I'd assume a significant downsizing may occur/closures in the short to mid term however.
telekill:
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--- Quote from: telekill on May 21, 2024, 02:49:54 pm ---Game journalism has been... not great... for a long time. There's a lot of crap out there. The best of the gaming sites IMO, GameTrailers.com, died out a long time ago. Unfortunately, both IGN and PushSquare groups are heavily left leaning, so if they post anything that has to do with politics, even moderately conservative opinions will be removed and users banned. I know this as I have been temp banned from both sites at some point for expressing a non-hostile conservative opinion.
Where am I going with this, you may be asking... If IGN has bought out their competitors, then there is no great loss. It's simply the consolidation of the same opinion under one banner and this will have zero impact on the readers and those that interact on their sites. That is... until with everything in the gaming industry at the moment... they start to downsize.
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It has nothing to do with being "left leaning". To be honest, most of the top comments on all IGN posts are heavily right leaning. Usually some pretty sick stuff at that. Politics have nothing to do with this consolidation. It's about finances. We're headed towards another 80's game crash. Everything is about profit and pleasing share holders now. Gaming isn't about the art of it anymore. AAA games will implode, and all that will be left are the indie titles that have held the gaming industry up for the last decade. Small gaming sites can no longer thrive like they used to.
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You missed what I was trying to convey. These sites all have the same ideals, the same mindset. They're essentially all the same. Now that it's all under one banner... there's been no loss.
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I didn't miss your point. Your point is purely political, and there isn't any sort of agenda. The loss is huge. This isn't good for the gaming industry. Every site being under one banner means less trust, more shady back room deals, and a lot of people aren't going to trust any reviews on these sites anymore. IGN already has a bad enough reputation and this is going to seem like the Amazon or Starbucks of the gaming journalism industry. Buying up everybody, monopolizing, and killing trust. But sure, it's all about "leftist" ideas. Whatever that means.
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Fair enough. You didn't miss my point. You saw it and ignored it entirely.
If you still have trust in the reviews these sites have then I don't know what to tell you. They haven't been trustworthy... any of them... in at least a decade.
sly345:
--- Quote from: telekill on May 21, 2024, 02:49:54 pm ---Game journalism has been... not great... for a long time. There's a lot of crap out there. The best of the gaming sites IMO, GameTrailers.com, died out a long time ago.
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Was it ever good? Granted my experience with US and British magazines is a bit limited (id did read quite a few PDFs though) but seemingly there were always cases of "Paid Review" (best example: Rise of the Robots, both in Germany and in the UK some magazines handed out suspiciously high ratings), like the Driv3r scandal of Future Press and even back then a lot of these journalists had their agendas, wether it's being a pacifist shitting all over "violent games" or the british overrating each and every football game ever made.
Looking over the ratings, even 30-40 years ago it is baffling what these magazines rated and you can see bias everywhere.
In that regard not much has chaned, only that the bias changed from "I rate genres high i love" or "we take bonuses for ratings" changed to "we're left leaning SJW's who can't tolerate anything but our oppinion".
--- Quote from: telekill on May 21, 2024, 02:49:54 pm ---Unfortunately, both IGN and PushSquare groups are heavily left leaning, so if they post anything that has to do with politics, even moderately conservative opinions will be removed and users banned.
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I would argue the worse part is that these so called journalists directly try to push their agendas, directly want to take influence on creative freedom and basically dictate what is ok and what isn't (in their mind). Prime examples are the crying about Stellar Blade or 6 years ago the massive bitching about Kingdom Come: Deliverance's "lack of diversity" and them trying to push Warhorse into adding black NPCs. The Eurogamer review of KC:D is a prime example, as it's obvious the reviewer desperately needs to rate the game badly because of "racism and sexism" but can't flat out say it, so instead he nitpicks minor stuff and thinks a couple bugs are the end of the world
dhaabi:
While I don't interact with any of the affected news outlets at all, the major takeaway is industry consolidation. In short, competition is good.
--- Quote from: sly345 on May 23, 2024, 11:03:34 am ---
--- Quote from: telekill on May 21, 2024, 02:49:54 pm ---Unfortunately, both IGN and PushSquare groups are heavily left leaning, so if they post anything that has to do with politics, even moderately conservative opinions will be removed and users banned.
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I would argue the worse part is that these so called journalists directly try to push their agendas, directly want to take influence on creative freedom and basically dictate what is ok and what isn't (in their mind).
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Both left and right wing politics have a vocal voice within the industry. While journalism itself may be dominated by the former, there are just as many news coverage and reactionary YouTube channels for the latter, which the argument could be made are just as influential with their respective audiences. If you think one group "directly [tries] to push their agendas" and wants "to take influence on creative freedom and basically dictate what is ok," then you must acknowledge that the statement applies to individuals from both groups, and certainly not all individuals. That is all I have to say on the matter.
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